MetaPhysical:


Hausa was never indigenous to Lokoja. Hausas were refugees in Lokoja. The deposed Sarkis and Barons in Hausaland were driven South to the river basins by their Fulani conquerors. When British came to colonize they met resistance with the Fulani Emirs. They in turn were deposed and driven South to a refuge area in the basin and under the watchful eyes of the colonial administrators.

Lokoja was a tributary of Old Oyo. Old Oyo fell much after the first wave of deposed rulers sent Southward. So Hausa were guests and subjects under Yoruba dominion in Lokoja. By the time of the British establishment, Old Oyo had fell to Fulani. Our hold on Lokoja were not as resolute as before. After the second deposition and Fulani Emirs joined their Hausa kins in Lokoja Islam grew and overtook the city further cutting back Yoruba hold.

During successive military rule North consolidated their hold on Lokoja and brought in new settlements to dilute the Yoruba enclaves. We lost three important cities to the political North, Ilorin, Katunga and Lokoja. Ilorin and Katunga through war, Lokoja through our own self doing. Till today, the Yoruba ruler, Olu of Oworo is independent and does not pay homage to the Hausa ruler in Lokoja.

We are very prodigal and careless politically. Omoluabi has dwindled away our fortunes.

If I may add, river basins are naturally blessed for agriculture and commerce. Lokoja is a prime location, even moreso than Ilorin...but we failed to see the worth. If we are not careful, in another 50 to 100 yrs we will be completely irrelevant in Lokoja culture and politics.

Everything in history is a function of time, unfortunately our lifespan is too short to have a grasp of the trend. How many people today, remember Arabs sacked Romans in Jerusalem and ruled it for close to 1000 years? Over historical time, boundaries are very fluid. How many yorubas or Igbos know they were once together as a tribe? How many of us remember Spain was ruled by Arabs for over 800 years? Spain was known as Andalusia.
So, the events of Ilorin and Old Oyo are roughly events of 200 years. They could be reversed in the course of time peacefully or violently depending on the sophistication of the coming generations.
We don't have to see the Fulanis in bad light. In the days of the kingdoms and empires, such was the order of the day, you either conquer or you're conquered. Similar thing happened in other parts of Yoruba land. When old Oyo collapsed, Benin empire began to make incursion into Yoruba land; Ekiti, Owo, Ondo, parts of Ijebu, and Lagos came under the sphere of Benin influence. As at today, those influences and reigns have been successfully rolled back without a gun shot. Yorubas are special people who think before they act and prefer to use their head than their strength.

Furthermore, we need to know certain history to understand the complexity involved in the middlebelt. The Nupe for instance, were originally very much like the yorubas if not the same people before the arrival and subsequent intermarriages between them and the Hausa's. Their capital was in the southern part of Nigeria between present day kwara and Kogi. The capital was moved to Bida in the course of war with the British forces, so originally Nupe was a southern kingdom with territory covering much of the north.

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Lange:
This is the best news I've read in recent times. Time for the Yorubas to possess our possession. The Emirate in Ilorin was a creation of the treacherous Afonja and equally treacherous Fulani Alimi. The Iyanmirin Igbos do not know that their Yoruba hero, Afonja was actually a black sheep in the house of Oduduwa who sold his inheritance inadvertently to Fulani on the altar of misplaced ambition and paid dearly for it with his life. I often wondered why the Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi feel so much at home playing second fiddle to the Fulani oligarchy to their detriment which leaves them to be a bat....neither bird nor mouse. I will want to see similar moves by the Kwara people to be where they truly belong. Kanu's agitation might truly be a blessing in disguise to Nigeria if we are able to achieve the restructuring of the country.

Pls pls and pls, if you do not know deeply about particular issues , just keep quiet.
Yorubas in Kwara (Kwara south especially) and Kogi have been clamoring for reunification with the South West Before even the independence of Nigeria in 1960 when even kanu's parent's were still teenagers.

Neither do the Yorubas in the "North" feel "comfortable" or at home there like you purported.
The Emirate in Ilorin was a classic game of thrones playout. Different characters and people played their roles, and at the end, the winners and the losers emerged. Al that is in the history books now.

The people are still very much Yoruba. A referendum will be done by the people, and they will decide their destinies.

So pls, stop appropriating credit to wrong sources or quarters. And also, stop talking bullshit.

Aachree0:


Pls pls and pls, if you do not know deeply about particular issues , just keep quiet.
Yorubas in Kwara (Kwara south especially) and Kogi have been clamoring for reunification with the South West Before even the independence of Nigeria in 1960 when even kanu's parent's were still teenagers.

Neither do the Yorubas in the "North" feel "comfortable" or at home there like you purported.
The Emirate in Ilorin was a classic game of thrones playout. Different characters and people played their roles, and at the end, the winners and the losers emerged. Al that is in the history books now.

The people are still very much Yoruba. A referendum will be done by the people, and they will decide their destinies.

So pls, stop appropriating credit to wrong sources or quarters. And also, stop talking bullshit.

Uk returned Hong Kong to china after 150 years
Fulani should do the same with Kwara and Kogi

sEGXY2:
All hail the great Oduduwa nation!

Unlike the other group we don't have to start staging violent protest and spewing hate statement before we get our own nation when we want it cos we'll get it on a platter of gold, that's sophistication.

The Okun and Kwarans has and will always be loyal to our brothers in the west, check election results if you're skeptical.

Omoluabi reporting from Egbe, kogi state.

Wat have u pple done so far in anticipation for d nation ur seeking for?

Markfemi2:


Uk returned Hong Kong to china after 150 years
Fulani should do the same with Kwara and Kogi

What is there to "Return" in Kwara and Kogi
Is it their property?

The way some of you people reason is astounding.
Those places are Yorubaland, and the people will join their kins in the West through popular vote. What is there to be returned by Fulani? is it for them?

realjoker:
Bros calm u nerve down about your follies, if you don't know before, let me let you know, you are towing the path of liepod yoots who are source of shames to other sensible Igbos.


The Yoruba in Kogi and Kwara states knows where they belong to. All the various minorities tribes across the North Central, Kebbi, Kaduna, Taraba, Gombe knows where they belongs to, so stop giving yourself sleepless nights upon matters that is beyond your own doing.

Are you SICK in the head or something?
The Yorubas in your so called FAKE north have Nothing to do with you leeches!

What business does Abiodun James Faleke or Ilesanmi Toluhi from Ekinrin Adde or Ayetoro Gbedde have with Abdulkadir Tanko Babagana from Daura or Funtua.

Mr man, borrow small sense abeg.

SuperS1Panther:
No dot of our ancestors' soil will be ceded to the North.

From Kabba to Epe, Jebba to Ese Odo, and Saki to Ore -- all will be excised into our region or nation.

From Jebba to Ofosu more like it.

Omofunaab2:
Lugard must have been high on osogbo weed for him to have added okun people to the north

Accordingly to the book review i watch on TV, lugard is someone that shouldn't be celebrated in Nigeria, someone that we shouldn't see as good in the history of Nigeria.

FG need to bring back history into our school curriculum.

Guy keep quiet there. Yoruba alway show there mouth power wen they see igbos bt wen the see hausa the keep silent like river. We just want to go our promise land and have our pease

EvilMetahuman:
will you keep quiet.

Who started the calls for restructuring to begin with?


Who blocked secession clause from being added to the constitution?

Flat head.

U shud be d one 2 kip quiet and acknowledge Nnamdi kanu.

So u started d call 4 restructuring? but wat impact has ur calls made towards d actualization of restructuring? Who has ever paid attention 2 ur calls?
If not for d Biafra agitation I wudn't have heard of d word "restructuring"

Aachree0:


What is there to "Return" in Kwara and Kogi
Is it their property?

The way some of you people reason is astounding.
Those places are Yorubaland, and the people will join their kins in the West through popular vote. What is there to be returned by Fulani? is it for them?

I'm not saying it's god Fulani only ilorin was lost but we need a redraw of Nigerian map

g4gerald:

U shud be d one 2 kip quiet and acknowledge Nnamdi kanu.

So u started d call 4 restructuring? but wat impact has ur calls made towards d actualization of restructuring? Who has ever paid attention 2 ur calls?
If not for d Biafra agitation I wudn't have heard of d word "restructuring"

My exact point all noise already your ebonyi governor has said no to restructuring loool

Chibaros:
Guy keep quiet there. Yoruba alway show there mouth power wen they see igbos bt wen the see hausa the keep silent like river. We just want to go our promise land and have our pease

I think you mean this for Igbo
Kaduna declaration showed us a great example

AdeizaPaul:


From Jebba to Ofosu more like it.

Jebba is the last Yoruba town and it kisses river Niger

Yoruba land is blessed and surrounded by water

Markfemi2:


Jebba is the last Yoruba town and it kisses river Niger

Yoruba land is blessed and surrounded by water

Yes I know.
I was just saying Yorubaland goes beyond ore on the Southeastern axis.
Ofosu is a Yoruba village beyond Ore on the Lagos-Benin expressway.

AdeizaPaul:


Yes I know.
I was just saying Yorubaland goes beyond ore on the Southeastern axis.
Ofosu is the last Yoruba town on the Lagos-Benin expressway.

Na why azikwe wan die on top western region
Lool he knew his region was trash

Markfemi2:


Na why azikwe wan die on top western region
Lool he knew his region was trash

There are also some Yoruba villages in Edo state like Egbeta, Olumoye, Gbelemotin, Madagbayu, Agopanu etc.
And some that are mixed Yoruba-Benin like Usen, Ugbogui, Siluko and Uhen.

AdeizaPaul:


There are also some Yoruba villages in Edo state like Egbeta, Olumoye, Gbelemotin, Madagbayu, Agopanu etc.
And some that are mixed Yoruba-Benin like Usen, Ugbogui and Uhen.

I actually want a monotholic Yoruba nation
Only issue will be re integrating ilorin into Yoruba land

Markfemi2:


I actually want a monotholic Yoruba nation
Only issue will be re integrating ilorin into Yoruba land

Oga, abeg which one be monothlic? lol Monolithic?
All those places I mentioned are Oodua, so yes, it wis still monolithic, if that is what you want.

I have noticed from your previous posts that you seem to be of this conviction that Ilorin is so far gone that it isn't that much Yoruba anymore.
That couldn't be any further from the truth. Because if the people of Ilorin vote today in a plebiscite, they would vote to join the West in an 80-20 landslide.
What more evidence of easy integration do you want than that.

Mind you I am from Kogi state.

Omofunaab2:
Lugard must have been high on osogbo weed for him to have added okun people to the north

I think u r d one high on high calibre Moroccan weeds. Dem say make una go school una no gree go. See as u dey Bleep up with history.na luggard divide Nigeria into states or d military?. Check d old northern region map

almarthins:


I think u r d one high on high calibre Moroccan weeds. Dem say make una go school una no gree go. See as u dey Bleep up with history.na luggard divide Nigeria into states or d military?. Check d old northern region map

Warefa.!
AT least you get his point.

All we are sayyyyyying..... Merge us with SOUTH WEST.

AdeizaPaul:


Oga, abeg which one be monothlic? lol Monolithic?
All those places I mentioned are Oodua, so yes, it wis still monolithic, if that is what you want.

I have noticed from your previous posts that you seem to be of this conviction that Ilorin is so far gone that it isn't that much Yoruba anymore.
That couldn't be any further from the truth. Because if the people of Ilorin vote today in a plebiscite, they would vote to join the West in an 80-20 landslide.
What more evidence of easy integration do you want than that.

Mind you I am from Kogi state.

I'm not saying they are lost
I mean their accent I served in Kogi Okun
I toured kabba odo ere egbe I know a lot
Your mad for saying 80-20 more like 99-1

9jakool:

I also agree that Lokoja is an Oworo town, especially judging by how it's mainly sorrounded by other Oworo settlements. Lokoja is surrounded to the North and West by Oworo people and to the East by the Niger river. The only border that's neither an Oworo nor a geographical border is the Southern border which is Ebira.


The Igala claim to the Lokoja is futile as the Igala actually largely settled on the Eastern bank of the Niger. The closest areas to Lokoja across the Niger is occupied by Bassa-komo, Bassa-Nge, and Ebira Koto peoples in Bassa lga, which is the local government area directly east of Lokoja. There are no Igala lgas that border Lokoja lga at all.

I think the weakest claim to the city is the one by Hausas. The obvious reason is because Hausaland in Nigeria is limited to the core north and Lokoja does not form a contiguous border with Hausaland. Also the name Lokoja phonetically is odd in Hausa. In the Hausa language, the open "O" found in LOkOja is absent in Hausa language; the "O" in Hausa is more closed and similar to the "O" in Ocean.

Anyways, I believe the Okun can stand alone as a state. The population of Okunland in Kogi state as of now should be between 1-1.5 million. If you also include Okun(Yagba) towns in Kwara like Eruku and Koro as well as other Okun towns in Northeastern Ekiti state like Aiyede, Itapaji, etc and I think(i don't know) to an extent to the border parts of Akoko Ondo; then an inclusive Okun state can have a population that approaches 2 million. I think this is enough for a state. Size is also not a problem because as of now, the Okunland in Kogi alone is larger than Ekiti state and it's comparable in size to Osun state and that's not including the Okun territories outside of Kogi.

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I read from the historical books that Loke Oja [Lokoja] was purchased by the British for administrative
use before 1900 and was the site where
liberated African slaves where set free.


The reason why many Yoruba towns
were incorporated into the old Northern
Nigeria is because Sir George Goldie said
that area and other parts of the Middle
Belt were within his area of trading
influence. Other British officials
like the Governor of the Lagos Colony
had suggested that Ilorin and other
Yoruba towns should be brought to
their kith and kin in the South but
George Goldie said the his charter for the
Royal Niger Company covered those
areas of Yorubaland up to Jebba, Ilorin,
Kabba, Lokoja, etc.


Parts of Ondo state used to be in
Northern Nigeria, i.e., Akoko axis
but people like Chief Obafemi Awolowo, GCFR fought to successfully bring those
areas of Akoko to be administratively
part of the Old Western Region.


The former substantive Governor General of the Gold Coast and the Governor of
Nigeria in 1942 - Sir Allan Burns in his book
which was very popular for history and administrative
use entitled: "History of Nigeria" first published in 1929, clearly stated on Page 33, Chapter
3 [4th Edition - 1948, which I have in my library collection right now] that Ilorin [population: 47,000] is one of the top 10 largest
Yoruba towns, and the 10 Yoruba towns
are among the top 11 largest towns in
Nigeria! Kano a Hausa town being among the 11
largest towns in Nigeria with a population of 89,000
or the 3rd largest after Ibadan [387,000]
and Lagos Island [126,000].


There is no need to fight over the ownership of Ilorin as official British
documents clearly indicate it is a
Yoruba town and today Yoruba is
the lingua franca. Even those 2 major
lineages with Fulani ancestry in Ilorin
are actually mixed Yoruba/Fulani like
you have Hausa/Fulani or Bambara/Fulani
in Mali, Northern Guinea, etc.


With the use of the British documents
and with the aid of the UN, Ilorin, Jebba
and indeed the entire 12 out of the 16 LGAs where the Yoruba own will become
part of a new Republic when the time
is ripe for the final peaceful split of
Nigeria like the former Czechoslovakia
and the former Soviet Union. No need
to fight or kill anyone! It has to be an
intellectual battle based on the side of
local and international laws. Even those
with the 2 so-called Fulani lineages
with Yoruba ancestries are also cousins
to the Yoruba so can be allowed to live
peacefully with the original Ilorin Yoruba
indigenes who constitute over 90% of
the population in a new Republic of
Western Nigeria (or some other name that
will not give the Olugbo of Ugboland
and his subjects in the oil and gas-rich Ilaje and Ese-Odo a headache like
"Oodua" Republic)
and a new flag!

Markfemi2:


I'm not saying they are lost
I mean their accent I served in Kogi Okun
I toured kabba odo ere egbe I know a lot
Your mad for saying 80-20 more like 99-1

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@Markfemi,

@ AdeizaPaul is Ebira from Kogi
and he is absolutely correct about the
over 80% of Ilorin indigenes voting
in a referendum to join their kith and
kin in the West. Of course he gave an
average of 80-20 and it will be more
than 90% based on my post just directly
above this recent post of mine.
He was actually referring to Ilorin.


Interestingly, Ebiras and Igalas and
Idomas also have "Ade" as a prefix in
their names just like Yorubas do. An Igala name is Adejo,
just like Ebira has Adeiza.

AdeizaPaul:


There are also some Yoruba villages in Edo state like Egbeta, Olumoye, Gbelemotin, Madagbayu, Agopanu etc.
And some that are mixed Yoruba-Benin like Usen, Ugbogui, Siluko and Uhen.

even okada town speak people speak mostly Yoruba

Buy Sense.,yorubas In 15 Nations

Eastfield1:
Referendum? You are calling for war abi? wait to u see that thing you are looking for. History will repeat itself

Another war will destroy nigeria.

EvilMetahuman:
will you keep quiet.

Who started the calls for restructuring to begin with?


Who blocked secession clause from being added to the constitution?

Flat head.

Restructuring became the order of the day because of a possible biafra exit.


"""Who blocked secession clause from being added to the constitution?""" - How old are u? Stop yarning opata

The party is over with the North when they have been enjoying Federal positions under the North no squalm you are welcome back to homeland God will grant you your desire