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Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 1:36am On Jul 07, 2017
nengibo:
The real question should be why are Igbos afraid of Niger Delta Republic, if truly they really want to help the Niger Delta, they should support a Niger delta free from the 3 major tribes, igbo, hausa and yoruba are all d same
Is the present Niger delta free from Igbos??
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 1:41am On Jul 07, 2017
HopeAtHand:
How can you fight for someone who didn't seek your help or complained to you for assistance. Is dat how you live your life?

People aren't interested in your help or assistance whatsoever, and you are making noise about them refusing your help. What nonsense!!!


Igbos fight your Biafra alone and leave uninterested ethnicities to chart their own course. When you give help not asked for, you create a sinister motive.
I hope you know when other ethnicity are talking you have to keep your mouth shut because ikwerres is igbo territory and the larger igbo decides
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by cjrane: 3:52am On Jul 07, 2017
I am wondering why the oil companies are still allowed to siphon the oil and share the profits among Fulani big men that own all the oil well.
Meanwhile the indigenes are dying of poverty and somebody is telling them not to blow up those pipelines in guerrilla attacks because it will hurt Nigeria. What are Nigeria that has continued to hurt and steal from the owners of the oil?
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by HopeAtHand: 5:28am On Jul 07, 2017
Ogbuefi2020:
I hope you know when other ethnicity are talking you have to keep your mouth shut because ikwerres is igbo territory and the larger igbo decides
It is one thing to type whatever you like behind your device, it is another thing to say it real life. can you come into an Ikwerre gathering and make this comment?? grin grin


Igbos should kindly plan their republic with whoever is interested and avoid unnecessary tangling with dissenting parties.
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by dudebuck: 6:23am On Jul 07, 2017
TheKingIsHere:
You are just confused. And since you say I am Afonja, then you are fvcking aboki.
I am proudly Biafran. From your own statement that I realized that you are an Afonja, how can you say that yoeoba were killed during the pogrom? FYI Yoruba in the south west were never victims but active and willing participants. Comon swerve aside.
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by nengibo: 6:25am On Jul 07, 2017
Ogbuefi2020:
But you were included in Nigeria without any option of a referendum. some of you are just dumb trying hard to feel important
U have poor logic, I can't discuss with you
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by attackgat: 6:55am On Jul 07, 2017
Timbuktuo:
First of, I'm yoruba.

Secondly, it's a good question because it exposes intentions and purpose. Why did Ojukwu forcefully include non-igbo speaking communities in his secessionist quest? Why not respect the wishes of the oil-producing communities when they registered their reluctance to go with him?

Thirdly, keep your attempts at reverse psychology in the cooler. Convene with minorities if you want them on your side. Going about drawing maps without consultation with concerned territory owners will produce nothing but disdain and resistance.
Google the Eastern Nigerian Consultative Assembly and you will find out that both Igbo and non Igbos gave Ojukwu the mandate to declare Biafra
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by Malawian(m): 8:00am On Jul 07, 2017
ShootToKill:
In my honest opinion, let every tribe in SS fight for what belongs to them like Ijaws are doing. As an Igbo man my concern remains the Igbos in the SS.
After listening to an Ogoni man claiming that Kanu wants to steal his oil just few minutes ago on Channel's TV program -The Core anchored by Kadaria Ahmed, I asked myself- 'Is this the kind of ingrates we in IPOB should bleed for?' Absolutely not!
He also repeated 'There will be no Biafra referendum in Ogoni land.

I will start opposing Kanu if he leads my people to the slaughter because of these ingrates in the Niger delta. I'll only fight for a Biafra without ingrates from Niger delta. Let them carry their cross, our cross as Biafrans is heavy enough, I don't want a mini-nigeria where an ogoni will claim the Igbos want their resources.
The tragedy isn't​ that the FG will always find Saboteurs among them to scuttle their struggle, the real tragedy is that the greater body of citizens among them won't call their erring brother to order. Even in Igbo land, we have the likes of Rochas and co, but you can see how we are in the process of finally disrobing them all over Igbo land. the Ogoni guy that made such statement, has he been called to order by his brothers? we might as well take it that he was speaking their mind. We will fight our battles, whoever want to join us to fight their will be welcomed, but we will not fight a battle they are not willing to fight for themselves.
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by TheKingIsHere: 8:25am On Jul 07, 2017
dudebuck:
I am proudly Biafran. From your own statement that I realized that you are an Afonja, how can you say that yoeoba were killed during the pogrom? FYI Yoruba in the south west were never victims but active and willing participants. Comon swerve aside.
Go and sit down. Since you said I am Afonja, then you are aboki. How can you say ojukwu was trying to help us nigerdeltans when it was obvious every man was fighting for themselves? Abeg make we hear word.
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by TheKingIsHere: 8:46am On Jul 07, 2017
Ogbuefi2020:
Was Ojukwus place included in where Adaka Boro was fight for? what is Ojukwu's business with a republic that he was not deem fit to belong by the person fighting for it?
Chukwuemeka Odimegwu Ojukwu was a fierce one nigeria advocate more than every other major player in 1966. That's why he wasn't interested in anything that involve Niger delta.

Na your fellow igbos open the thread yesterday which you all avoided

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/162240-ado-bayero-saved-several-igbos-1966-traditional-rulers.html

https://www.nairaland.com/3903533/ado-bayero-saved-several-igbos

So please stop all these senseless denials. Isaac boro fought for Niger delta Republic long before biafra. Ojukwu fought for the igbos interest and nothing else. Stop all these lies of ojukwu fought for Niger delta. .Simple
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by dudebuck: 9:55am On Jul 07, 2017
TheKingIsHere:
Go and sit down. Since you said I am Afonja, then you are aboki. How can you say ojukwu was trying to help us nigerdeltans when it was obvious every man was fighting for themselves? Abeg make we hear word.
who is niger deltan? I hope Obigbo, Asaba, Ohaji Egbema, etc are part of them. Hahahahahahahahahahah! hahahahahahahahahahaha!
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by TheKingIsHere: 10:12am On Jul 07, 2017
dudebuck:
who is niger deltan? I hope Obigbo, Asaba, Ohaji Egbema, etc are part of them. Hahahahahahahahahahah! hahahahahahahahahahaha!
These ones you mentioned are they igbos? Yes or no?
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by dudebuck: 10:15am On Jul 07, 2017
TheKingIsHere:
These ones you mentioned are they igbos? Yes or no?
Hahahahahahahahaha! you see, keep on exposing yourself, you are a full blooded afonja. Why not ask if Ibadam and osogbo is Yoruba land. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 10:23am On Jul 07, 2017
HopeAtHand:
It is one thing to type whatever you like behind your device, it is another thing to say it real life. can you come into an Ikwerre gathering and make this comment?? grin grin


Igbos should kindly plan their republic with whoever is interested and avoid unnecessary tangling with dissenting parties.
Ikwerre are dreamers, they don't understand that their case is different from the minority groups, ikwerre wont decide anything, the larger igbo will decide. why would i come to inconsequential ikwerre village gathering when the larger igbo body have more important gathering. yeye people
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 10:25am On Jul 07, 2017
nengibo:
U have poor logic, I can't discuss with you
it is your superior logic that can show whether my own logic is poor or not, unfortunately, you do not have any
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 10:28am On Jul 07, 2017
TheKingIsHere:
Chukwuemeka Odimegwu Ojukwu was a fierce one nigeria advocate more than every other major player in 1966. That's why he wasn't interested in anything that involve Niger delta.

Na your fellow igbos open the thread yesterday which you all avoided

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/162240-ado-bayero-saved-several-igbos-1966-traditional-rulers.html

https://www.nairaland.com/3903533/ado-bayero-saved-several-igbos

So please stop all these senseless denials. Isaac boro fought for Niger delta Republic long before biafra. Ojukwu fought for the igbos interest and nothing else. Stop all these lies of ojukwu fought for Niger delta. .Simple
you people should stop glorifying Adaka Boro's brief militancy for any fight for niger delta. He was just and Ijaw millitant
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 10:30am On Jul 07, 2017
TheKingIsHere:
These ones you mentioned are they igbos? Yes or no?
We can see it clearly that it is you minorities that are land grabbers and attache by force. stay on your lane too and there will be no problem. You can refuse to join biafra because it igbo struggle then lump igboland in your imaginary niger delta republic. You are the greedy landgrabbers now ooo
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by TheKingIsHere: 10:43am On Jul 07, 2017
Ogbuefi2020:
We can see it clearly that it is you minorities that are land grabbers and attache by force. stay on your lane too and there will be no problem. You can refuse to join biafra because it igbo struggle then lump igboland in your imaginary niger delta republic. You are the greedy landgrabbers now ooo
They are igbos simple and short. Ojukwu fought for the igbos while Isaac boro fought for Niger delta Republic, simple. Nothing else. I wonder why it is paining you that Niger delta Republic was declared long before biafra?

Also, take note that I have never lump anyone with Niger delta Republic. Infact, GEJ from the confab report was ready to create aniomas state for you guys which is evident that we don't force ourselves or ideologies on anyone. I don't have problems with the igbos and I have said it severally but anyone that comes here to tell lies just to soothe their pains will get a strong resistance from me.

I repeat, ojukwu fought for only the igbos interest and that's a fact.
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by TheKingIsHere: 10:44am On Jul 07, 2017
Ogbuefi2020:
you people should stop glorifying Adaka Boro's brief militancy for any fight for niger delta. He was just and Ijaw millitant
Lol, that's all you have to say.
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by HopeAtHand: 10:45am On Jul 07, 2017
Ogbuefi2020:
Ikwerre are dreamers, they don't understand that their case is different from the minority groups, ikwerre wont decide anything, the larger igbo will decide. why would i come to inconsequential ikwerre village gathering when the larger igbo body have more important gathering. yeye people
bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh.... Talk is Cheap.
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by TheKingIsHere: 10:45am On Jul 07, 2017
dudebuck:
Hahahahahahahahaha! you see, keep on exposing yourself, you are a full blooded afonja. Why not ask if Ibadam and osogbo is Yoruba land. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Yes na, I am Afonja and you are aboki. Abi you don forget. Lol
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by dudebuck: 11:38am On Jul 07, 2017
TheKingIsHere:
Yes na, I am Afonja and you are aboki. Abi you don forget. Lol
No I am a Biafran and you are Afonja, ask me again if OBI Igbo (heart of Igbo) is Igboland
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by SirVintageCock: 11:56am On Jul 07, 2017
TheKingIsHere:
When the people were being killed in the north, everyone was involved including yorubas. So stop insinuating what is not.
Isaac boro fought for the niger deltans and ojukwu fought for the igbos. Simple. No need to re-write history.
REALLYhuh What history book are you reading? Chaiiiiiii
Something needs to be done fast concerning the lack of history teaching in our schools? When did Isaac fought his battle SIR?
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by SirVintageCock: 12:04pm On Jul 07, 2017
Timbuktuo:
Are we supposed to believe that igbos including SS in their secession is a romantic rather than utilitarian move? Dude, please another yarn. Everyone knows why Ojukwu included them then and why Kanu has drawn his map including them now.

Boro didn't include Igbos in his map because he didn't need you guys then as they do not need you now.
I think you should get a history book and read it thoroughly? Ojukwu seceded the eastern region he governs out of Nigeria after the meeting with Eastern assembly which comprises of all ethnic groups in the region.
Well, what concerns me....yorubas are known to be history revisionists.
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by pazienza(m): 12:09pm On Jul 07, 2017
Timbuktuo:
First of, I'm yoruba.

Secondly, it's a good question because it exposes intentions and purpose. Why did Ojukwu forcefully include non-igbo speaking communities in his secessionist quest? Why not respect the wishes of the oil-producing communities when they registered their reluctance to go with him?

Thirdly, keep your attempts at reverse psychology in the cooler. Convene with minorities if you want them on your side. Going about drawing maps without consultation with concerned territory owners will produce nothing but disdain and resistance.
In what planet did Ojukwu forcefully include non Igbo Easterners In Biafra?

Why can't you Yorubas stay off issues you know nothing about?
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 12:10pm On Jul 07, 2017
TheKingIsHere:
They are igbos simple and short. Ojukwu fought for the igbos while Isaac boro fought for Niger delta Republic, simple. Nothing else. I wonder why it is paining you that Niger delta Republic was declared long before biafra?

Also, take note that I have never lump anyone with Niger delta Republic. Infact, GEJ from the confab report was ready to create aniomas state for you guys which is evident that we don't force ourselves or ideologies on anyone. I don't have problems with the igbos and I have said it severally but anyone that comes here to tell lies just to soothe their pains will get a strong resistance from me.

I repeat, ojukwu fought for only the igbos interest and that's a fact.
Ok, thank you, good luck with your Niger delta without igbos, but stop glorifying brief militancy of Adaka boro. BIafra is the only internationally recognized secessionist agitation in Nigeria, if you want Niger delta republic you can start now to do official secessionist movement for it and igbo will support you 100%
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by cumbak60: 12:19pm On Jul 07, 2017
Malawian:
The tragedy isn't​ that the FG will always find Saboteurs among them to scuttle their struggle, the real tragedy is that the greater body of citizens among them won't call their erring brother to order. Even in Igbo land, we have the likes of Rochas and co, but you can see how we are in the process of finally disrobing them all over Igbo land. the Ogoni guy that made such statement, has he been called to order by his brothers? we might as well take it that he was speaking their mind. We will fight our battles, whoever want to join us to fight their will be welcomed, but we will not fight a battle they are not willing to fight for themselves.
This the same reason I'm vehemently against Kanu Biafra. He is too naive to see reality. ND tribes will definitly scuttle the struggle. Kanu should restrict his Biafra to eli-Igbo. If he must go south, then it should be in only Igboid territory. I'll rather remain a Nigerian than venture into a country that is doomed to fail because of ethnic bias and unfounded fear of domination. Biafra should be for only the "Bia" speaking tribe. If others want to join, they should do so on their willing volition.
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by Ngozi123(f): 2:34pm On Jul 07, 2017
nengibo:
The real question should be why are Igbos afraid of Niger Delta Republic, if truly they really want to help the Niger Delta, they should support a Niger delta free from the 3 major tribes, igbo, hausa and yoruba are all d same
Many Igbos, including myself, support your quest for a Niger Delta Republic. Didn't you see how many Igbos were in support of the various Niger Delta groups' campaigns for their own country? huh
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by Ngozi123(f): 2:43pm On Jul 07, 2017
Afam4eva:
I actually watched the Ogoni man in that interesting political discussion. He was visible angry at everything, not just Nnamdi Kanu. Note that at the beginning of the show he said that "We are all Biafrans" which he used to highlight the fact that every part of Nigeria is feeling some sort of neglect. I can understand why he would be angry anyway because if you look at the interview with Nnamdi Kanu that he was reacting to, Nnamdi Kanu came across as arrogant and was just marking territories according to the man. Nnamdi Kanu was asked which part of Nigeria covers Biafran territory and he mentioned all the SE and SS states except Edo state. So, this guy was feeling like, we were not consulted. You don't go around marking territories without insulting the sensibilities of the indegenes in those terrains.

I've noticed that Niger Deltans don't necessarily have a problem with Biafra per se. Their problem is the fact that they're not been carried along properly. For instance, if Nnamdi Kanu can court some freedom fighters in those areas to join his movement. For instance, if people like Asari Dokubo and co join the movement actively and not by proxy, only then will these groups in those areas with be able to resonate with the Biafran struggle through their own leaders. Nnamdi Kanu having foot soldiers who have no followership in those areas is a recipe for disaster.
Such an agreement would be very shaky and would only last for a short while. It'll be much better if we just had a parallel campaign with the minorities of the Niger Delta; one campaign for an Igbo independent country and the other for a Niger Delta Republic or whatever they want to call themselves. I will not support IPOB as long as they continue to include these communities, many of which harbour anti-Igbo sentiments, in our country. Give me an Igbo-only Biafra or nothing at all.
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by adonis89(m): 2:43pm On Jul 07, 2017
hydraa:
nobody have benefited anything from Nigeria , even the politicians send their children away cus they know theres nothing to benefit . if you ask me theres never been a better time for all groups in the south south to rally around igbos and kanu cus lets tell ourselves the truth no matter what you think about the igbos or kanu they are the only way out of this mess .
I agree with u brother. My ppl(ijaw) nai no wan wake up. Na to de spew trash on social media and radio stations
Re: What Have We Niger Deltas Benefited From Nigeria by Ngozi123(f): 2:50pm On Jul 07, 2017
HopeAtHand:
It is one thing to type whatever you like behind your device, it is another thing to say it real life. can you come into an Ikwerre gathering and make this comment?? grin grin


Igbos should kindly plan their republic with whoever is interested and avoid unnecessary tangling with dissenting parties.
The person you're quoting is correct when he states that Ikwerres are ethnic Igbos. Language is a different debate.
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