Trottle:



If it is a Yoruba town 100%, how come it had the name "Jebba". Do you mind explaining its etymology?

realjoker:

Like i earlier stated
1, Jebba is 100% Yoruba ancient city
2, its ownership is not under contention, rather jebba North is under contention, which is now dominated by Nupes on the northern side of River Niger ceded to Niger state after IBB regime border readjustment policy that based Kwara state and Niger state borderline on river Niger.
3, The two states government are working towards reaching amicable compromise on Jebba north ownership, part of the resolution is Kwara state being recognized as hydro electric power state. Note: Jebba hydroelectric dam is in Jebba North ceded to Niger state.
4, Nupes people and people of jebba and Yorubas in general has a cordial relationship predating colonial era and never fought any major war with each other. Till date Nupe and Yoruba still sees each others as brothers forget about the dirty politics currently going on in Nigeria.

Fearlez:
There was a mix up with some group saying they wanted another state from the east and some business mogul felt they would lose thier business to political uncertainty.( Remember Onitsha main market is amongst the biggest in West Africa). Others in the East felt igbos will have genuine tentacles into the Niger Delta region with that creation of Anioma.

Know that Anioma state is one the oldest states agitated but never created preceding even Midwest state.

So there was no lie anywhere. So it's a matter of economic expediency .

realjoker:

Like i earlier stated
1, Jebba is 100% Yoruba ancient city
2, its ownership is not under contention, rather jebba North is under contention, which is now dominated by Nupes on the northern side of River Niger ceded to Niger state after IBB regime border readjustment policy that based Kwara state and Niger state borderline on river Niger.
3, The two states government are working towards reaching amicable compromise on Jebba north ownership, part of the resolution is Kwara state being recognized as hydro electric power state. Note: Jebba hydroelectric dam is in Jebba North ceded to Niger state.
4, Nupes people and people of jebba and Yorubas in general has a cordial relationship predating colonial era and never fought any major war with each other. Till date Nupe and Yoruba still sees each others as brothers forget about the dirty politics currently going on in Nigeria.

Trottle:


I agree with your assertion. But the question is why are Yoruba sub-groups always added to the Yoruba nation, but that of the Nupes is being deliberately relegated, from the colonial daysdays to this present day?

realjoker:
how are Nupe sub groups being deliberately classified as non Nupe?

Onyenna:


You nailed it bro.... Why would they wanna force someone into something they clearly don't wanna be a part of!?.... The igbos in the SS have clearly stated that they "ain't Igbos" and don't wanna be referred to as igbos.....

Fearlez:
And yet , they (Delta Igbos) proposed Anioma state with Onitsha in the East as the headquarters!!
Aniocha North, Oshimili South, Ndokwa, IKa, Agbor, Ibuso (Igbo Di n'uzo) Aniocha South, Oshimili North, Asaba (Ahaba) Obulukwu, Iselleuku, Ogwashiukwu, Onicha-Olona , Onicha-Ukwu, Onicha-Ugbo, etc. Majority aren't igbos and all their towns and villages are Igbo by name and they are igbo-speaking.

Oh, boy the argument is old but Anioma doesn't belong to any other tribe in Nigeria's archives or gazette other than Igbo.
you gave yourself away as an urhobo here. Abeg, which other ethnic groups in delta are you referring to? You're trying to deceive people as if the other tribes in delta are so united and speak with one voice! Do itsekiris want you? Do ijaw want you? Delta igbos have been the bridge bridging the tribal madness in delta state hence itsekiri supported the capital to be in Asaba.
Again, answer the question, why did the federal troop carry out the Asaba genocide during the civil war if they aren't Biafra?

Viergeachar:


When did Delta Igbos agitate for Anioma state to be added to the SE? Please tell me the year and those behind it.

In the eyes of Yorubas and northerners, there are only 3 tribes: Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba.
Every other tribe must belong to one of them.
Of course, that is not true.
This explains the Asaba massacre.

nototribalist:
Nnamdi kanu is truly a blessing and a leader. See what he has caused in Nigeria.

Afonjas it's either restructuring or break-up choose one.

Trottle:


Please don't cofuse us. I was referring to the Yoruba-Kanuri coalition, but you are stating another thing entirely. Please address my questions regarding your assertion of the "coalition" between the Yorubas and the Kaburis agianst the Fulanis. Please visit that post again and re-read the questions and your assertion. Thanks.

mrhowoto:
The man in this pic is truly a legend.

realjoker:
This your logic does not count. Will the Anioma state be a SE or SS state. Let start here.

realjoker:
yes, a legend when it comes to brainwashing ignorant liepod yoots.

Trottle:


I would get you the evidence of the Nupes of the old. I would give you additional sources on how the Nupes founded Jebba.

While I'm on it, you too should start digging up facts about;
1. The Kanuri-Yoruba coalition against the Fulanis
2. The etymology of the word "Jebba"
3. Provide Mungo Park's book that predates Lugard's
Do that.

realjoker:
how are Nupe sub groups being deliberately classified as non Nupe?

Trottle:


Let's do a small test to prove that the Nupe subgroups are being excised from tge Nupe nation. Whom do you refer to as the Nupes. A seemingly easy question. But please, answer it honestly as usual.

Deedeedee3:
We dont want restructuring anymore but total disintgration. The okuns and Yorubas in Kwara state will have a referendum if they want to live with the north or join us in Oodua republic. It is their choice. Some might agree while some might not. There are so many injustices in Nigeria.
Oodua a gbe wa ooo!

Fearlez:
What a question!!!!

Is South-South not a political demarcation? Were not Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa-ibom states geographically East of Nigeria until after the war.

So if politicians could use legislative fiat to create South-South from the East , who's telling what is obtainable now?

If Anioma states sails through with Onitsha as its headquarters, what region it belongs is of little significance.

realjoker:
stop peddling all these half truth okun feel more Yoruba than an average Osun man, tell them they are not Yoruba and see what there response is. Which is why I kick against Markfemi2 creating all these unnecessary threads litter all over nairaland, an average okun, kwarans (be it Yoruba, Nupe, bariba) don't need a referendum to tell you where they belongs, they are not suffering an identity crisis, they know what they are, who they are and what they want.

realjoker:
keep feeding yourself all this lies. Every region is a political demarcation. And note the current Delta igbo you are forcefully attaching with where part and parcel of defunct western region. So stop all this your cries of SS being a political creation the people occupying it are not complaining about it they are proud to be call SSer, it is only you attach by force igbo that are crying about it.

realjoker:
stop peddling all these half truth okun feel more Yoruba than an average Osun man, tell them they are not Yoruba and see what there response is. Which is why I kick against Markfemi2 creating all these unnecessary threads litter all over nairaland, an average okun, kwarans (be it Yoruba, Nupe, bariba) don't need a referendum to tell you where they belongs, they are not suffering an identity crisis, they know what they are, who they are and what they want.

luluman:
Why do you teach false alliance ? Okuns claim Okun stands alone & should not be called Yoruba.Go back & ask again if you know any of them.My in laws are Okun.

luluman:
Why do you teach false alliance ? Okuns claim Okun stands alone & should not be called Yoruba.Go back & ask again if you know any of them.My in laws are Okun.

realjoker:
Lol... Your in law. Might feel okun stand but that is her own personal opinion. I have been living with different okun men and women since God knows when, I school, work and flex with them. Even the average Hausa man some of you like calling illiterate knows they are Yoruba even though they are found in North central Nigeria. When I see all this liepod yoots claiming there is no Yorubas in Kogi at the inception of their madness I do ROTFL.

luluman:
Nobody told them off, they vehemently denounce yorubaship & claim OKUN , so let them be.

johnserek:


luluman or pupu man

i am okun
and we are yorubas
we are the ones that want to join our kiths back
its not a case of ibo who want ijaw to join him
this is a yoruba affair
it chokes you to see how we yorubas want to be together but you can say the same for delta ibos chai

Fearlez:
What lies? Do yourself a favour and point out the lies? Once again, were not those aforementioned states Eastern Nigeria before?
Your emotions are already gushing out because your motives are evil.

* If all regions are political demarcation, does it mean geography doesn't exist? Is the South West a political demarcation? Or The core north?

* Delta igbos bound Eastern Igbos in more then one fonts so either they are in the East or south is of no significance like I pointed out earlier

* If Okuns from Kogi who are Yorubas are given their own state, will that mean the geographical place they occupy will become south west ? Will it not be content that they are politically secluded from other folks and can politically aligne without interference with the South West?

If Anioma's proposal comes true with Onitsha in the East as headquarters, it will make no significance what region it belongs to.

The importance is akin to what Yorubas in Kogi and Kwara desire.

Your mask have fallen , hater.

johnserek:


luluman or pupu man

i am okun
and we are yorubas
we are the ones that want to join our kiths back
its not a case of ibo who want ijaw to join him
this is a yoruba affair
it chokes you to see how we yorubas want to be together but you can say the same for delta ibos chai