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Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:13pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
IamGeorgie: Way to go! 1 Like |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:14pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
IamGeorgie: True. 1 Like |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:16pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Junia: Those who were before the finished work were looking ahead while we who came after are looking back at the finished work of Christ in faith. 1 Like |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:26pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Junia: That's a risky position to take. Let's see what the Scriptures say: "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown" (Revelation 3:11). Quick fire questions: 1. Who said this (Jesus/Father/Angel)? 2. To whom (Saints/Sinners)? 3. When was this said (To OT/NT Saints)? 4. What were they to hold fast? 5. Was it possible to lose their crown? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by Nobody: 6:29pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: This has nothing to do with salvation. it is actually talking about the crown we will receive because of our endurance .. faith .. patience .. trails ... obedience etc. There are different crowns in the bible 1) The Imperishable Crown – ( 1 Corinthians 9:24-25 ) “Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate [disciplined] in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown” 2) The Crown of Rejoicing – (1 Thessalonians 2:19 ) “For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Is it not even you in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at His coming? 3) The Crown of Righteousness – (2 Timothy 4:8 ) “Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing.” 4) The Crown of Glory – (1 Peter 5:4 ) “And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that does not fade away.” 5) The Crown of Life – (Revelation 2:10 ) “Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.” Our walk with God determines which crown we will actually receive. |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by plainbibletruth: 6:31pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: It was possible for them to lose their "CROWNS" The question then is 'What does the CROWN stand for? |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by owoleola: 7:58pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
An2elect2:yes,why did you ask |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by An2elect2(f): 9:06pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
owoleola:How did it happen? |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by owoleola: 9:10pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
An2elect2:Tell me why its important you know |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by owoleola: 9:15pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU:you mean we cannot see God without being HOLY?.......If yes,I will like you to tell,what level of holiness qualifies one to see God? |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by Jennygiveme(f): 9:17pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU:On teachings like this we should try as much as possible to be precise, and not try to confuse the issue with half truths and gorilla dust. We should not try to downplay the death of christ and all it accomplished for us. Since the fall of man, the basis of salvation has always been the death of christ. No one, either prior to the cross or after the cross, would ever be saved. Through the cross the penalty for past and future sins are fully attoned for. The apostles, adam, abraham, moses, david, men and prophets who lived in time past were justified by faith. The requirement for salvation has always been faith in God. And he believed in the lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness (Genesis 15:6). The apostles were saved because they had faith in God through Jesus christ. Faith is the requirement for salvation, the objective of our faith is God, and our salvation is fully giving through the death of christ. If men could be fully saved without His death, there would have been no need for Him to die. And this is our hope today, that christ died for us, he was buried and He rose again the third day. |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by An2elect2(f): 9:59pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
owoleola:You sound sincere that's why. unlike so many proud legalistic folks I've seen here |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by owoleola: 6:00am On Jul 05, 2017 |
An2elect2:Oh,well I am sincere,Christianity ain't the fantasies we see around |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by benjibabs(m): 6:22am On Jul 05, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: Yes. How? By rejecting Jesus Christ (or by falling away, as some bible versions put it) Hebrews 6:4-6 NKJV “For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.” 1 Like |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by Nobody: 11:13am On Jul 05, 2017 |
benjibabs:Enlighten means knowing the truth. Its not the same as accepting it. Tasting the Heavenly gift is not the same as eating or drinking Being a partaker or partner is not the same as the indwelling of the Spirit etc ... This Is a perfect example of Judas. Along with the other disciples Judas was involved in a supernatural ministry that saw him casting out demons and healing the sick (Mk 6:13). He may have even prophesied in Jesus’ name. Judas tasted the goodness of the word of God but ultimately he rejected it. When he walked out of the first communion he walked out on Jesus. He was basically saying, “No, your blood and your body are not good enough for me.” He was with them but wasn't saved. Remember Jesus said he was dirty. We have such people in Church. They will hear and experience the power of God. The Holy Spirit may come upon the several times yet they still don't accept Him 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:37pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
benjibabs: Way to go! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by plainbibletruth: 3:50pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: Looking forward to your response. |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by Scholar8200(m): 6:03pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
We are saved by faith through Grace and we stand by faith(Eph 2:8 and 2 corinth 1:24b)...can a Christian lose his faith? and/or can a Christian abandon his faith? If yes, does he remain saved and is he still standing? |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by analice107: 9:57pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
Jennygiveme:Okay then. It's a Ma. |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:42pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Jennygiveme: plainbibletruth: owoleola: An2elect2: I couldn't have given a better response than the article/devotional posted below: Daily Manna 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:00pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Junia: Good. Let's consider more verses in the book of Revelation: "He that overcomes, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before His angels" (Revelation 3:5). Question: If a Christian rejects Christ and doesn't overcome sin, would his/her name remain in the book of life? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by olubuffett: 6:57pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Unrepented sin will make one lose salvation. Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Hebrews 12:14 KJV There's lots of errors in the present day churches, where people think once saved, forever saved. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Romans 6:1-2 KJV The fact is the world has entered the church and it's having a field day people don't even know the difference any more the so call leaders are all about ABC ( attendance building cash). 1 Like |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:58pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
olubuffett: The picture below shows how folks have been "abusing grace" 1 Like
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Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by Nobody: 12:49am On Jul 08, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU:A Christian cannot reject Christ. No Christian does that. Unless you don't know who a Christian is. Now consider this. A Christian is righteous. How ? .. he had faith in Jesus. A Christian is an overcomer. How ? .. he had faith in Jesus. 1 John 5:4 For every child of God defeats this evil world, and we achieve this victory through our faith. Our faith in Jesus makes us overcomers. So though we are here, we have overcome so our names will never be blotted out. |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:55am On Jul 08, 2017 |
Junia: Who was Christ speaking to in the verse I quoted (Rev. 3:5)? Christians or non Christians? 1 Like |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by Nobody: 1:02am On Jul 08, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU:Christians. He wants us to put our faith in Him. Now consider this. A Christian is righteous. How ? .. he had faith in Jesus. A Christian is an overcomer. How ? .. he had faith in Jesus. 1 John 5:4 For every child of God defeats this evil world, and we achieve this victory through our faith. Our faith in Jesus makes us overcomers. So though we are here, we have overcome so our names will never be blotted out. |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by owoleola: 12:30pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU:If this is still valid,Jesus wasted His time and precious blood,dying for people whose salvation still depends on them. Come to think of it,you were called a sinner before you came to this world,outside your choices or opinions or will,why do you then think your choice now matters to be saved. You see,many people don't know God for what He is but what they want Him to be,thereby making themselves gods,and God,a product of their will,God forbid. And for your info,a child of God who is of course born of God cannot sin and does not sin,so I don't know where you see this as a license to somebody who CANNOT do it. 1 Like |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:13pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Junia: Becoming a Christian is not the end of the battle it is just the beginning. There are still the battle of faith to fight before we become overcomers. Let no one deceive you that the battle is over until you win. We get saved by grace, we continue to live the Christian life by grace and we end the Christian life by grace which is through faith. The question is would you continue to overcome if you lose your faith in Christ? 1 Like |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:17pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
owoleola: Here is another article/devotional for you to peruse on. Read the text on the hyperlinks for better understanding. Daily Manna 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by Nobody: 4:54pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU:No Christian will lose his or her faith in Christ. 1 John 5:4 For every child of God defeats this evil world, and we achieve this victory through our faith. Check the scripture again. It says "every child of God" Even the one who became a child of God just this moment. |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by plainbibletruth: 10:44pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: Since sin is "whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it" James 2:10 THEN even ONE SIN disqualifies anyonefrom claiming a sin-free life. In other words, a person who fails to KEEP one single command of God is GUILTY of sin. SIN is not just murder, adultery, lying, and obvious sins that people usually look at. SIN is both a nature and exists even in thought - "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Matt. 5:28. For example, how many Christians can HONESTLY CLAIM to obey Philippians 2: 3-4 "Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others." Now, if a Christian FAILS to obey Phil. 2: 3-4 will he be eventually saved? |
Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by orunto27: 8:22am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Not when you become Born Again. |
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