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| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 12:29pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
forgiveness:It means Yoruba is an ethnicity that is capable of staying as a nation on her own. This has been in the United Nations archives for years. It was during the M. K. O Abiola era that Yoruba man was denied the right to ascend to the presidency office after he won the election. A lot of Yoruba were killed Including Pa Alfred Rewane. An itsekiri man, Who knew their ancestors story as part of Yoruba Race. Some members of the N. A. D. E. C. O , took it upon themselves to establish the Odu'a people's Congress. And a draft of Yoruba nation was established and submitted on behalf of Yoruba nation to the United Nations. This was how the Odu'a groups and Yoruba bodies both in diaspora and at home begun to be formed from 1993/1994 upwards, Starting with N. A. D. E. C. O. So, I mock some people who think they were the first to draft such bill of rights to the United Nations .Yoruba lead others follow. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by forgiveness: 4:11pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Olu317:I see. Thanks So, why has it not materialized until now? How long will it take to actualize? |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by pazienza(m): 9:31pm On Jul 07, 2017*. Modified: 11:54pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Lol! Uninformed folks deceiving themselves. Nobody in Isua, Epinmi, Ipesi, Ifira, Ipe, Sosan speak Yoruba as a first language. They all speak and understand Yoruba fluently, and answer Yoruba names too, but Yoruba language is not their first language. Their first language are Edoid languages, I had once lived amongst these people for months, and as such have a first hand info on the people. By the way, Ikare, Akungba, Oka, Iwaro-Oka, Oke agba, Oba, all the way down to Arigidi are pure Yoruba towns that speak your dialects of Yoruba language as their first language, and then standard Yoruba when interacting with other Yorubas. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Nobody: 10:03pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
"Benin City was also one of the first cities to have a semblance of street lighting. Huge metal lamps, many feet high, were built and placed around the city, especially near the king’s palace. Fuelled by palm oil, their burning wicks were lit at night to provide illumination for traffic to and from the palace." "In 1691, the Portuguese ship captain Lourenco Pinto observed: “Great Benin, where the king resides, is larger than Lisbon; all the streets run straight and as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the king, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well governed that theft is unknown and the people live in such security that they have no doors to their houses.” " History is a wonderful thing. One good thing about it is that you will never be able to rewrite it. The truth shall set us free. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Nobody: 10:12pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
The lack of historical knowledge amongst nigerians is what is leading to all this madness. Know your history, know where you came from and honour your ancestors. Creating yourself a fake history is a terrible insult to your ancestors. Benin City was the capital of a large Kingdom, those who were part of the Kingdom, but not in the capital should stop inventing a fake history for themselves. Honor your ancestors ! |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Nobody: 10:30pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
What I don't understand is the so called independence day. We never gained independence from britain, indeed independence would imply a return to pre-colonial borders. I would like to see the pre-colonial states of Africa rise again. That would be true independence and that would restore our pride. Then we can sign treaties amongst our selves for non agression and/or mutual defence. We could repair our educational systems and compete with western europe in the fields of technology and science. We could gain our souvereignty back instead of being ruled by the UK and America (because that is the current reality). |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 10:39pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
forgiveness:There is nothing to materialise there yet as secession hasn't taken place. Nothing will ever happen on the bill of rights until such as secession take place. And as yesterday, some people marked 50th anniversary of the beginning of the Nigerian Civil war. So,until the three groups don't see eye to eye that things can materialise. Else it will still be at the archive of United Nations as recognising formally The Yoruba nation. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by MrMaestro: 11:25pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Olu317:Understood, but I think we've reached this point or are quickly reaching this point now. What are we prepared to do when this point is reached, when other Yoruba goups are either calling for unity, or calling for restructuring, and not secession? I don't think we are positioned and prepared for the moment you, so we need to find ways to reorient the yoruba populace on secession before that time comes, which is basically NOW. God Bless the Yoruba Race. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Amberon11: 1:55am On Jul 08, 2017 |
Exactly! Demmzy15: |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Omofunaab2: 11:09am On Jul 08, 2017 |
pazienza:You are not done revising the Nigerian civil war history and other ones in which you have dedicated your time to... It's akoko history you want to revise now.. Lol.. Epimmi, ifira down to ikakumo and igashi speak different yoruba dialects.. Ikarre, Ugbe and akungba speak same yoruba dialect .arigidi and erusu speak same dialect ipesi, Epimmi and ifira dialects is almost the same with ido-ani.. Akoko has diverse dialects but Nothing like Edo dialect here.. Ikarre is very close to arigidi but they speak different dialects.. although some of akoko dialects has little influence from edo languages and this is due to trade.. Places like Epimmi and Ifira are very close to ibilo, igarra in akoko Edo, Edo state.. if you go there and tell them that they don't speak yoruba as first language, they might sacrifice you to the gods And it's not Oke agba, it's oke agbe Normally, I shouldn't be responding to you because everybody knows it's your duty to distort history and give new identities to people. . I'm replying you because I'm related to akoko and i can't allow one potopoto boy from abakaliki to come here and distort our history |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by pazienza(m): 11:22am On Jul 08, 2017 |
Omofunaab2:Lol! Epinmi, Ipe, Isua speak Yoruba language? ![]() Can we put that to test? I'd write in Ipe Now, and let me see you interprete it in Yoruba. Then I'd write in Epinmi and see you do the same. Well since we are now being pedantic. It's Epinmi not Epimmi, it's Ikare not Ikarre ![]() Ipesi speaks same language with gini? Lol! You are obviously a stranger to these places. Anyway, tell me when you are ready to pick up my challenge on interpreting those languages since you said they are Yoruba. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by MrMaestro: 11:35am On Jul 08, 2017 |
I believe we should migrate this to Yorubapatapo.com. The derailers are getting annoying. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Omofunaab2: 11:46am On Jul 08, 2017 |
pazienza:It's like you are da*t, I already told you akoko has diverse dialects, I gave examples of dialects that seems intelligible to one another.. I'm from Ikarre-Akoko, Arigidi is not far from ikarre and yet i don't understand Arigidi's dialect very well. . That's just to tell you how akoko is when it comes to dialects.. Akoko doesn't have a central dialect.. Someone from ajowa, akunnu might find it difficult to understand ipesi dialect but you are a potopoto boy, so i don't expect you to know akoko dialects Like i said earlier, go to Efinmi and tell them their dialect is Edoid and see if you are not sacrificed to the gods of the land. I'm done replying you |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by forgiveness: 11:47am On Jul 08, 2017 |
Olu317:I see. Thanks |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Omofunaab2: 11:49am On Jul 08, 2017 |
MrMaestro:Yorubaparapo |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by pazienza(m): 12:08pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Omofunaab2:I have been to Epinmi and I told them their dialect is Edoid and they agreed. Epinmi speak an entirely different language from Yoruba, their language is not even Yoruboid like Igala, it's a full blown Edoid language of its own. For example, the word for King in Epinmi is "Ovie", even though in the spirit of their new Yoruba identity, they call their king officially, Oba today. Common words like head, leg, teeth, mouth, etc have an entirely different words for them in these places that are not Yoruba. Ikare and Arigidi, even Oka are proper Yoruba tow whose indigenes speak Yoruba dialects. If you don't know these things, it simply means that you had not lived amongst these people in their lands. I have, so I know better. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Jetleeee: 2:51pm On Jul 08, 2017*. Modified: 8:02am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Arigidi, Erusu, Ojo, Oyin, Afin, Oge, Igasi, Aje, Uro and Oso speak Edoid languages, but they do not give a fook about Edo cos they aren't from there Edo influence is only apparent in those areas due to invasions. Akokoland went through different phases of invasion. Akokoland is one big tower of babel and its the most complex part of Yorubaland. Very difficult to understand But one thing is sure despite the dialectal and linguistic diversity, they all identify as Yoruba. Those languages are even facing serious threat from the core Yoruba dialect. There are organizations working hard to save them |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 2:55pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
pazienza:Historian of the 21st century, we've heard you. Thanks for your information and kindly stop derailing this forum with your baseless egocentrism.... |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Jetleeee: 3:10pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Then we have the Akpe language that is neither Yoruboid nor Edoid. It just stands on its own. The language is spoken in Daja, Efifa, Akunu, Gedegede, Ibaramu, Iyani. They don't even understand each other in these places. The language is the same but they have different dialects lol |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Omofunaab2: 4:16pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Jetleeee:Egbon, akoko ni ede ti daru lol, .. I understand ikarre dialect but i don't understand that of arigidi... Anybody from ikarre should be able to understand the dialect of ugbe and akungba |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by laudate: 7:28pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Olu317:Hehehe.... don't mind him. He and his crew are specialists in revisionism. Only God knows who he spoke to in Epinmi, that agreed with him that their language is Edoid. Was it one of their traditional chiefs, market women or students? How many people did he speak to? It was probably someone as uninformed as he is... ![]() |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by tifany89(m): 8:49pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
givbitcoin:It's quite unfortunate the way u r sounding coz if u r opportuned to enter power with such mindset you can even be worse than Buhari. What most of you don't know is dat you can't give what you don't have. A leader like you will surely create more divisions dan togetherness and wat is the worse dat will happen? |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by OAUTemitayo: 9:11pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
laudate:He didn't speak to anybody. He is a serial liar. A pathetic OSU with no sense of dignity. The most worrying part is he may have transferred his ediocy to many people in his village. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 6:49am On Jul 09, 2017 |
laudate:My aunt married to the Epinmi's .These people were rescued from annihilation by my ancestors when they arrived at the location of partly old BINI Kingdom. And from old BINI KINGDOM, they were moved to their present location. There are things best kept in the cooler .Anyway, there language is a mixture of Yoruba and others dialect. There is no lineage in Epinmi that is not related to Yorubas. EDO were originally EFA(EVAH)/AKA /IKA people. And Yoruba infiltrated them through Odèdé(Oranmiyan) and his warriors as well as IFA priest,who is his seer as it was the tradition of our ancestors princes leaving ILE IFE when he went to that part called Edo. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 7:11am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Omofunaab2:The truth is that, in,1984, some people mistakenly wrote the history of Ijebu in a way that make them older than the rest of Yoruba. They didn't say they aren't family of Yorubas but said they are OLDER THAN ODUDUA descendants. So, don't see it as anything relevant but political because OBANTA, Who was the third in the kingship title holder in Ijebu Ode and he was a descendant of ODUDUA. In fact, the Ijebu were a major player in the KIRIJI WAR, over all led by OGÈDÈNGBÈ GBÈ AGBOGUN GBORO .Ijebu Ode clan is part of Yoruba Race. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Nobody: 3:17pm On Jul 09, 2017 |
Olu317:Ijebu group as one of the major sub-region and power bloc in Yoruba nation has always been involved in the politics and warfare of the larger Yoruba group starting from the Owu war where it took sides with the ravaged Ife army and ever since it has continued to go where Ife went militarily and politically while simultaenously looking out for its own demands. The Ijebu did not participate in the Ekitiparapo wars only but all wars in Yoruba land. It fought on the side of Ife in all of Ife's wahala and strongly fought Ife's wars against Modakeke. I am not sure they participated in the Ife-Modakeke wahala of the 90s though but Ijebu has for a lifetime been a strong Ife ally even thought their political revisionist historians have tried to give them Waddai origins ![]() |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 3:47pm On Jul 09, 2017 |
Obaluf0n:Yes,the 1990s wasn't the kind of war that need Ijebu attention or other Yoruba clans because it hadn't gotten out of hand. Else the Ooni's descendants would have flooded ILE IFE. Truthfully, politics was the reason for not allowing MODAKEKE had her way. Anyway, all have have stake in ILE IFE, either Modakeke or any Yoruba clan as it seems. Warring among ourselves isn't worth it. Long live Yoruba Race. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Nobody: 5:03pm On Jul 09, 2017 |
Olu317:Not to derail or divide the thread but the war of the late 90s to 2000s was a continuation of the one in 1800s and it did get out of hands. The war of the 90s was Oyo & some of her towns; Gbongan & Ode Omu; then Modakeke all bombarding Ife but that was that anyway. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 9:51pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Obaluf0n:I can recall the incident vividly. It was political and seen as a form of oppression of Modakeke. Anyway, it is by gone. |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by crownprince102: 10:41pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
ooduapathfinder:Hello sir.. can I have or mobile contact |
| Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Nobody: 11:05pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Olu317:Are you serious? - I didn't know the moves to stop further encroachment on ancestral lands of the people of Iraye quarters which is one of 13 original communities making up Ife was politucal oppeession o! - I didn't know the attempt at stopping the splitting of a single town into two kingdoms; was also oppression. - I did not know the refusal to accede to the demand for a LG that would have made one of the cores of Ife which is Iraye (what you call Modakeke) a separate town was also political oppression, I never knew until you said it. Using your premise, Yoruba's reaction to Igbo's claims to Lagos domination, ownership of certain areas/LG, demand for offices and demand to stop the use of Yoruba at the State House in the past years must have been political oppression o. E kare sir, awon alaale a ma bless yin. |
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He and his crew are specialists in revisionism. Only God knows who he spoke to in Epinmi, that agreed with him that their language is Edoid. Was it one of their traditional chiefs, market women or students? How many people did he speak to? It was probably someone as uninformed as he is... 