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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 6:55am On Jul 01, 2017
9jakool:

It's mainly the Yorubas along the border or well informed people that are very aware of those in countries like Benin. The Yorubas in Nigeria and those in Benin are much closer in reality. This can be especially seen in Ogun West. The Yorubas in Imeko Afon Lga are the same Yorubas found in Ketu in Benin republic. They were under the Kingdom of Ketu and they speak the same dialect. The Anagos in Ipokia LGA are the same Anagos in Porto Novo, Benin.
To add more to this point of yours. The Yoruba in rural or urban in Republique du Bénin are proud of Yoruba heritage. In fact in their museum they have Orisa ibeji etc statute as a form of attraction to the European,American tourists etc . The Yorubas in Bénin are always welcoming if they come in contact with Yorubas from Nigeria. They are honest and educated.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by mightyhazell: 6:56am On Jul 01, 2017
HughJazz:
hey Igbo. Why don't you fuckoff
lol


He is an ewedu dunderhead grin
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 6:59am On Jul 01, 2017
HopeAtHand:
You and whoever came up with this Constitution are idiots.
We,Yoruba know, you have your own personal perception but right now, it isn't NEEDED. Kindly keep off this thread with Your misplaced PRIORITY.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 7:06am On Jul 01, 2017
ooduapathfinder:
Addendum:

Edo as in Akoko Edo; Delta as in Itsekiri

Editor
There are parts in Akoko Edo that are not Yoruba. It would have been extremely accurate if our people in those places is well emphasised. I would never subscribe to the ideology of occupying territory that doesn't glorify Yoruba land. We, Yoruba know our history and not land grabbers. However, In Ishekiri land, I believe.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 7:18am On Jul 01, 2017
Jetleeee:
That one or two people from Edo and Delta joined in drafting the document doesn't mean majority of them care about Yorubas or would love to be part of a Yoruba country . Please lets quit the ipob-esque delusion. Have you ever seen Itsekiri or Akoko-Edo repping in any Yoruba event?

The only Yorubas outside the SW are Kwarans and Okun people. The rest are...whatever

No need to consult them for anything. Yoruba is Yoruba. Itsekiri is Itsekiri.

Let us not over drag this because Ishekiri is Yoruba offshoots. The reason people were not in tune with Yoruba tag at first is that, it was used to identify Odu'a descendants by the Malians traders , other traders of Arab descents and Berbers in the olden days. So, don't be too conservative to denying our other sibling in Ishekiri land access to Odua land. Beside, Ishekiri speaks 70.3% (Ijumu/Okun Yoruba), 71.5% (standard Yoruba), 72.0% (Ijesha), 74.0% ( Ekiti) of Yoruba language. Where do you place such people? You need to read their history, written by their people and you will understand ,where they identify with as far as Nigeria is concerned.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 7:39am On Jul 01, 2017
AshiwajuFoward:


Exactly. Only a minority of those groups still openly identify themselves as Yoruba today. The vast majority have long carved a separate identity for themselves and would rather be identified along those lines.

My view is that we start from our current 6 SW states while consulting with those in parts of Kogi and Kwara. If the Kogi and Kwara ones refuse to commit to the project, that's fine and no hard feelings. After all there are Yorubas in Benin and Togo, and they're cool where they're at while still enjoying good relations with the rest of the wider Yoruba family based on our shared historical and cultural ties.

We mustn't allow any petty excuse to rob us of an opportunity to have a Yoruba country. IMO, Yorubas that are currently not a part of the SW fold but are willing to join their brethren must be vocal and at the forefront of making such ambitions and aspirations known. I am sure the SW states will surely support them if they do. But they must be the ones to make the first moves.
The most aggrieved are the Yoruba in kwara and Kogi and they are always willing to be part of the Yoruba race. Ishekiri isn't a Minority because they are Yoruba. It is only BINI Kingdom that need let be because they forgot their source. The reason you feel the rest don't identify openly is because many don't even know their history. This is the reason it seems so. The Olu Ishekiri/warri identify with ILE IFE, what does it mean?, We don't need soothsayer to know who ishekiri are. Though you have a valid point. But then, point can be valid and still not true. Let us continue with the good work and God will make it materialise.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by deedeedee1: 8:24am On Jul 01, 2017
9jakool:

It's mainly the Yorubas along the border or well informed people that are very aware of those in countries like Benin. The Yorubas in Nigeria and those in Benin are much closer in reality. This can be especially seen in Ogun West. The Yorubas in Imeko Afon Lga are the same Yorubas found in Ketu in Benin republic. They were under the Kingdom of Ketu and they speak the same dialect. The Anagos in Ipokia LGA are the same Anagos in Porto Novo, Benin.
I have visited benin and togo before and i must say that you are very right. There is no difference between us. I can differentiate an igbo person from yoruba by just looking at them. Same with yoruba and hausa, but i tried to do that with yorubas in benin and us in nigeria, but i could not find any difference. We have same facial features. Some still give their children tribal marks today. We behave same, think same, act same. They are very fluent in yoruba language. They also have their own dialects. If they speak and you dont listen attentively, you wont understand them...but yet, they speak yoruba. Majority of them cannot speak English language but French.
Port norvo is their country capital and it is Yorubaland (not all sha) . They have access to sea.
I just dont know why some Yorubas keep forcing themselves on Igbos and Hausas......people we share nothing in common with. See the way they put "One Nigeria" for head like gala....opening study threads and trying to convince them to stay in the same country with them.
Stupid fools! Crazy people everywere! Eddiots!
The eediots dont know that we have Yorubas outside the country we need to connect with.
Do you know that some Yorubas dont even know that there are Yorubas in kwara and kogi states?
Funny enough they are in the same country with them.
This is what you get when you put "one nigeria" for head. They are trying to be patriotic to a doomed country while loosing their culture and pride.
We need to leave nigeria. This stupid country cannot work. Things are not just right.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by deedeedee1: 8:33am On Jul 01, 2017
Olu317:
There are parts in Akoko Edo that are not Yoruba. It would have been extremely accurate if our people in those places is well emphasised. I would never subscribe to the ideology of occupying territory that doesn't glorify Yoruba land. We, Yoruba know our history and not land grabbers. However, In Ishekiri land, I believe.
Egbon, itshekiri should not be included. These guys dont behave like yorubas. Some dont even like us. Even if they want to join, we should reject them. They have chosen another idemtity for themselves. They are not known as yoruba but itshekiri.
Pls dont include them into that map. Let the stay on their own or with the minority south south

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by limeta(f): 8:54am On Jul 01, 2017
Can you pls stop adding Edo and part of the NIGER Delta to Yoruba nation .
We are not the same people as Yoruba
We dont want to be in the same country with you ewedu Yoruba people

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AshiwajuFoward: 9:05am On Jul 01, 2017
9jakool:


And who was the blind fool that demarcated the Yorubas in Kogi and Kwara to the North. What boundary exists other than the artificial boundary that exist between the SW and the Yorubas in NC. Why do many Yorubas of today act like those in Kwara and Kogi are some type of foreign race. Was that the way it has always been? The Oya overlooking Jebba marks the Northernmost frontier of Yoruba people at least in Nigeria hence the land North of that mark is known as Oke Oya where foreign traders came from.

Somehow one is going to include Ila Orangun, and the Igbominas in Omu Aran are not going to want to join. If Ekiti state is included, won't the Ekitis in Kwara join likewise the Ibolos. Are the Okun in Northern parts of Ekiti somehow more Yoruba than those in Kogi?

In my opinion, Lord Lugard must have been under the influence of demons when ceding what we know today as the Yoruba-speaking parts of Kwara and Kogi to the North. But regrettably, the damage has been done and part of the fallout of that decision is that it fostered an identity crisis in some of our subgroups trapped/ceded to the North. That is just the truth and reality we simply have to acknowledge.

In Kwara, the igbominas, Ekitis, Ibolos, Ajase Ipos, and other non-ilorin Yorubas already pretty much see and count themselves as a part of the SW than the North -- this conclusion is based on my personal interactions with folks from these subgroups. Besides, my own mother hails from among the Igbominas domiciled in present-day Kwara. But the ilorins may be a tough nut to crack for obvious reasons.

You will find that some (if not most) of those denying their Yoruba/Ife origins in those parts do so for purely political reasons (simply to demonstrate loyalty/allegiance to, please, and convince the 'core' Northerners) and nothing more.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 9:08am On Jul 01, 2017
deedeedee1:

Egbon, itshekiri should not be included. These guys dont behave like yorubas. Some dont even like us. Even if they want to join, we should reject them. They have chosen another idemtity for themselves. They are not known as yoruba but itshekiri.
Pls dont include them into that map. Let the stay on their own or with the minority south south
I do understand your fear and I share it too. I only emphasise the connection with us. In fact some of them are Odu'a people Congress members. However, we,the larger congressional members of Yoruba stock are not land grabbers, so if they feel uncomfortable within Yoruba nation,we won't force ourselves on them . After all, Dutch, Britain etc are offshoots of Germanic stock and they are doing well. Ifè lo wolè dè ti a un ba Óoré jé éko, ti ilè ahún n to ahún jé.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by oladeebo: 9:09am On Jul 01, 2017
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ooduapathfinder:


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INTRODUCTION:

When different Nationalities and Ethnic Groups live in the same country, it is imperative that they each let the others know what their special interests are, in order to make living with each other worthwhile. If all of them are to live in peace, they must each know what is of paramount concern to each and every Nationality. Given the fact that the Yoruba Nation also extend beyond Nigeria, she has the obligation to preserve her cultural heritage and way of life within Nigeria and elsewhere where she has a sizeable community.
In a situation where the Yoruba Nation share a common country with some other Nationalities either with feudal tendencies or conformity by coercion, this can be stifling to the fullest development of the Yoruba. It is therefore in the interest of the Yoruba Nation to have as much Autonomy in their Region as a Truly Federal arrangement would demand. This means that more power will be with the Nationality, where, with a True Federal set-up, planning and execution of social, economic and other services that meets the aspiration of Yoruba Nationhood will be possible.
As we all now know, there is a serious question mark on Nigeria as a Federal State. This has led to current agitations and permutations as to correcting this fundamental defect.
In considering current developments, certain areas that need to be thoroughly examined have been identified. Specifically, a Truly Federal Nigeria in which the Constituent Nationalities will posses a reasonable degree of Autonomy will require clear understanding of the impact of the following on the Nigerian Union:
(1) The development of social and economic relationship between the various Nationalities within Nigeria and their Diaspora; for the Yoruba Nation, that will be Brazil, Cuba, the U.S, the West Indies and South America without the overriding legislative power of the Nigerian Union.
(2) The ability of the Nations to pursue micro and macro Economic policies
(3) Regional Command of the Armed Forces, taking cognizance of the fact that a country’s defense is linked to its foreign policy and vice versa.
ENDORSEMENT OF CONSTITUTIONS:
(1) Endorsement of Regional or Nationality Constitutions through Referendums within the various Regions or Nationalities only.
(2) Endorsement of the Negotiated Federal Constitution through a country-wide Referendum.



DRAFT OF THE OODUA REGION YORUBA CONSTITUTION

In order to secure the dual ends of good government for, as well as peaceable living among ourselves and between us and other Nationalities in Nigeria, we, the OODUA Yoruba people do commission and give consent to the following as the Constitution of the Yoruba Nation:

THE OODUA NATION
ARTICLE 1
SECTIONS:

1. YORUBALAND, existing as an AUTONOMOUS Nation in a UNION OF NIGERIAN CONSTITUENT NATIONALITIES, shall be known and styled as “ODUDUWA REGION”.
2. The Central government of the Union shall have no power to interfere nor intervene in the affairs of the ODUDUWA REGION, save as shall be agreed to by three quarters of the members of the Region’s Parliament.
3. The land description of the Oodua Yoruba Nation corresponds to the present states of Ekiti, Eko, Ogun, Ondo, Osun, Oyo and all Oodua lands in Kwara, Kogi, Edo and Delta States.
4. There shall be a Division of the Federal Armed Forces in the Region, 90% of which personnel shall be
indigenes of the Region. The Divisional commander shall be an indigene of Oduduwa Region.

THE GOVERNMENT
ARTICLE ll
SECTIONS:

1. Oduduwa Region shall be a Federation consisting of a Regional government, provinces (Ipinle) and
Localities (Ibile). The Region as well as each Province and Local Council shall have a capital city which shall be the seat of Government.
2. ODUDUWA Region shall adopt a parliamentary system of government.
3. All legislative powers shall be vested in PARLIAMENT of the Region, without prejudice to the rights of provinces and local Councils to enact laws and ordinances, relating to their provinces and local councils.
4. Any elected Member of Parliament, Provincial and Local Assembly who wishes to join another party must first resign his/her parliamentary seat and re-contest election if he/she so wishes on the platform of his/her new party.

THE REGIONAL GOVERNMENT

ARTICLE lll
SECTIONS:

1. The Parliament shall be composed of members elected every 4 years by the people of the region.
2. Such persons shall be elected on the platform of the political party they represent or as independent
candidates. There shall be no restriction on the number of political parties.
3. The Proceedings of Parliament shall be directed by the Speaker who shall be elected from among the members.
4. Elections into Parliament shall be held on June 12 of the election year, while the swearing in of elected representatives shall be the 8th day of August and annual opening session of Parliament shall be 23rd day of September (to commemorate the peace treaty that ended Kiriji war on September 23, 1886) of the same year.
5. The members of Parliament shall be remunerated for their services, as shall be determined by law.
6. Parliament shall enact all laws for raising revenue. No money shall be drawn from the treasury
except through an Appropriation Act.
7. Parliament shall have the power to make laws governing taxes, duties, excise, payment of debt, etc
It shall have the power to make laws governing the sourcing of funds on behalf of the Region and to
regulate commerce with the co-prosperity spheres within the Union of Nigeria.
8. Taxes are to be collected at Regional, Provincial and Local levels for promotion of the general welfare
of the people.
9. Parliament shall have the power to make provisions for the general welfare security and prosperity of the Region. It shall set the standards for economic, educational, social and cultural advancement of Oodua people.
10. Parliament shall have the power to establish Regional Police Service with responsibility to
investigate Regional crimes. This Police Service shall have no superintending control over the Provincial and Council Police service, but shall coordinate activities at the Regional, Provincial and Local council levels.
11. There shall be a Regional Prosecutors’ office responsible for the prosecution of cases as investigated by the Regional police. The Regional Prosecutor shall be elected by popular vote and shall
not be a registered member of any political party.
12. Recognizing that the Oduduwa Nation is multi-religious society, the citizens shall have the
right to freedom of worship.
13. Parliament shall make no retroactive law. Nor shall it abridge the freedom of speech or the right of
peaceful assembly. It shall not abridge the right of citizens to petition government for redress. The
privilege of the writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended. Parliament shall not make any law abridging the fundamental rights, freedoms and liberty of the citizens. All Oodua persons resident in any of the provinces of the Region shall be entitled to the same privileges and immunities.
14. The powers not delegated to the Parliament or the Provincial/Local Assemblies by this Constitution are reserved in the people, which may be invoked by a simple majority of voters through a Referendum in the Region, Province or Locality as the case may be.
EXECUTIVE OF THE REGIONAL GOVERNMENT
ARTICLE IV
SECTIONS:

1. A Head of State/Aare shall be elected for a period of 5 years of not more than 2 terms. The Aare shall not belong to any political party, and must not be less than 60 years. The Aare must be a person whose parents belong to a community indigenous to Oodua Nation. The Aare shall declare open the parliamentary Session, represent the Region on ceremonial matters, announce the dissolution of Parliament and all such matters.
2. The Aare shall be elected from an electoral college composed of selected leaders from the provinces. The provincial representative could be traditional rulers or statesmen and women.

3. Executive power at the Regional level shall reside in the Premier-in-Council (PM) elected for a period of 4 years. The leader of the majority party in parliament shall be PM and shall be vested with the
power to appoint Cabinet Ministers. The PM must be a person whose parents belong to a community indigenous to Oodua Nation.
4. The Parliament shall stand dissolved at the expiration of its 4-year term. In the event of a motion of no confidence passed on the government by not less than three-quarters of members of Parliament, the PM and the government shall resign forthwith. Thereafter, the Aare shall call on the leader of the
party which appears able to form a government that will enjoy majority support in Parliament to fulfil
the term of the current Parliament or new election held within 30 days of dissolution of Parliament.
5. The Council of Chiefs and Obas. There shall be a Regional House of Chiefs and a Traditional Council of Obas and Chiefs at the Provincial and Local Council levels.

JUDICIARY

ARTICLE V
SECTIONS:

1. The Judicial power of the Region shall be vested in the Supreme Court, Court of Appeal, High Court,
Customary Court and Other lower courts as the Parliament may establish.
2. There shall be a Court of Appeal in each of the provinces.
3. There shall be, in each province, a High Court from which appeals shall lie to the Court of Appeal and
Supreme Court.
4. There shall be a CONSTITUTIONAL COURT of not more than 7 persons. Members of this court shall not be less than 60 years old. The court shall determines cases of serious Constitutional issues among Local, Province and Regional Governments, and between individuals and government. Members shall be nominated by the Body of Benchers in each provinces; subject to ratification by Parliament. Membership of this court is for life, subject to soundness of body and mind.

5. FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS:
All Oodua persons shall be protected by the various international treaties passed in the Bill of Rights of the UN and various regional Bills of Rights such as the African Human and People’s Rights.
LAND AND MINERAL RESOURCES
ARTICLE Vl
SECTION:
1. Oodua Customary forms of land ownership shall be respected. Exploitation of mineral resources shall be the prerogative of the host community without prejudice to the right of the Local, Provincial and
Regional Governments to levy appropriate taxes for the welfare of the people of Oodua land and without prejudice to the right of the Federal Government to levy taxes.

THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT
ARTICLE Vll
SECTIONS:

1. There shall be established a PROVICIAL ASSEMBLY in each of the provinces of the Region.
2. Provisions of ARTICLES ONE and TWO in this Constitution as applied to the Parliament of the
Region, shall apply to the PROVINCIAL ASSEMBLY except that the tenure of the Assembly shall be 3 years.

3. The Executive Power of the Province shall reside in the PROVINCIAL GOVERNOR-IN-COUNCIL, who must be an elected member of the Assembly and vested with the power to appoint members of the Provincial Government. The size of the provincial cabinet shall be determined
by consideration for the financial resources of the province.
4. The Assembly shall make provision for the establishment of a Provincial Police Service, which shall be empowered to maintain law and order in the Province and investigate crimes within its jurisdiction. The Provincial Police shall be responsible to the Provincial Governor.
5. There shall be a Provincial Prosecutor’s Office responsible for the prosecution of cases as investigated by the Provincial Police. The Provincial Prosecuting Officer shall be elected by popular vote, and shall not be a registered member of any political party.

THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT
ARTICLE Vlll
SECTIONS:

1. There shall be established a LOCAL ASSEMBLY in each of the Local Councils of the Region.
2. Provision of ARTICLE ONE and TWO in this Constitution as applied to the Parliament of the
Region, shall apply to the LOCAL ASSEMBLY except that the tenure of the Assembly shall be 3 years.

3. The Executive Power of the Local Council shall reside in the LOCAL ASSEMBLY CHAIRMAN-IN-COUNCIL, who must be an elected member of the Assembly and vested with the power to appoint members of the local government. The size of the Local Government cabinet shall be determined by consideration of the financial resources of the local council. The electorate shall have a say in the remuneration of elected members of the Councils.
4. The Assembly shall make provision for the establishment of a Local Council Police Service, which
shall be empowered to maintain law and order in the Local Council, investigate crimes within its jurisdiction. The Council Police Service shall be responsible to the Local Assembly. There shall be Council Prosecutor’s Office responsible for the prosecution of cases as investigated by the Local Police Service. The Council Prosecutor shall be elected by popular vote in the Local Council and shall not be a registered member of any political party.
THE OODUA PERSON
ARTICLE lX
SECTION:

1. All persons either of whose parents or grandparents belong or belonged to a community indigenous
to Oodua land. All persons in the Diaspora, of African decent who claim Oduduwa/Yoruba ancestry, either through cultural affiliation or genealogical connection.

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Do you know your right?
Who give you the mandate of writing Yoruba constitution!
Are you have more than 1/30 million of Yoruba right?
why elites stubborn a times?
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 9:34am On Jul 01, 2017
AshiwajuFoward:


In my opinion, Lord Lugard must have been under the influence of demons for ceding what we know today as the Yoruba-speaking parts of Kwara and Kogi to the North. But regrettably, the damage has been done and part of the fallout of that decision is that it fostered an identity crisis in some of our subgroups trapped/ceded to the North. That is just the truth and reality we simply have to acknowledge.

In Kwara, the igbominas, Ekitis, Ibolos, Ajase Ipos, and other non-ilorin Yorubas already pretty much see and count themselves as a part of the SW than the North -- this conclusion is based on my personal interactions with folks from these subgroups. Besides, my own mother hails from among the Igbominas domiciled in present-day Kwara. But the ilorins may be a tough nut to crack for obvious reasons.

You will find that some (if not most) of those denying their Yoruba/Ife origins in those parts do so for purely political reasons (simply to demonstrate loyalty/allegiance to, please, and convince the 'core' Northerners) and nothing more.
You asserted the core problem with some Ilorin stock. In fact it was political and the loss of recognition from the Ilorin indigenes after OLU ILORIN Momoh was killed in an uprising in 1893 by other Yorubas in Ilorin . This is the reason for forceful allegiance with the Hausa Fulanis. If you check the current Emir of ILORIN,you will discover that he was the first Emir in ILORIN using the word and identifying with EMIR. The core Muslim clerics from Ilorin hardly use EMIR but referred as Olu Ilorin or Oba Ilorin. Still there is Oja Oba in Ilorin. The previous Leaders were called OLU–ILORIN. The Emir of Ilorin said he his a Muslim head teacher /leader of Muslims in Ilorin. Afonja family took Alimi descendants to court over Ilorin leadership tussle. The few elements in Ilorin, who are lukewarm In the agitation by the larger Yoruba over there are doing it for political reason. The Hausa–Fulani don't trust Ilorin people.Despite their forceful attache to Northern Nigeria,the Hausa Fulani have never use Ilorin Emir as a link to Yoruba land if they want any support of some sort . This is the Point.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by HughJazz(m): 9:50am On Jul 01, 2017
limeta:
Can you pls stop adding Edo and part of the NIGER Delta to Yoruba nation .
We are not the same people as Yoruba
We dont want to be in the same country with you ewedu Yoruba people
look at this flat head fucker .

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 9:58am On Jul 01, 2017
oladeebo:
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Do you know your right?
Who give you the mandate of writing Yoruba constitution!
Are you have more than 1/30 million of Yoruba right?
why elites stubborn a times?
Yo are not Yoruba. Proof me wrong. Having the ability to speak and write Yoruba language doesn't make you a Yoruba person. So, kindly take away your unproductive and irritating opinion away from those who know the true state of Yoruba land.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by PROUDLYAFONJA1: 10:07am On Jul 01, 2017
grin

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by deedeedee1: 10:09am On Jul 01, 2017
limeta:
Can you pls stop adding Edo and part of the NIGER Delta to Yoruba nation .
We are not the same people as Yoruba
We dont want to be in the same country with you ewedu Yoruba people
Believe me, we dont want edos.
As you can see in previous comments that many yorubas do not agree with the op including you guys.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by deedeedee1: 10:13am On Jul 01, 2017
Olu317:
Yo are not Yoruba. Proof me wrong. Having the ability to speak and write Yoruba language doesn't make you a Yoruba person. So, kindly take away your unproductive and irritating opinion away from those who know the true state of Yoruba land.
That dumb-ass is not Yoruba. Just ignore him

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Nobody: 10:14am On Jul 01, 2017
See the game : when igbos finished with Hausa Fulanis and go their way (B*afra) , Yolobas and Hausa Fulanis will have to do their own press up for the B*frana to see .It seems like you guys are also getting tired of the Vultures in the land.
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by oladeebo: 10:15am On Jul 01, 2017
Olu317:
Yo are not Yoruba. Proof me wrong. Having the ability to speak and write Yoruba language doesn't make you a Yoruba person. So, kindly take away your unproductive and irritating opinion away from those who know the true state of Yoruba land.
but!
emi looki ile:
eso ikoyi omo agbon yon, omo agbon ti o ri ku sa!
yanbi nlolu oloota egi, omo a ku fa po ora!
ikoyi omo eru fina fina!

Olu!
iru ila wo le nko ninu agboo'le yin?
Se nsi nbe leeke re?
Abaja ni nbe leke e temi bayi!

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by bakynes(m): 10:23am On Jul 01, 2017
AshiwajuFoward:


Exactly. Only a minority of those groups still openly identify themselves as Yoruba today. The vast majority have long carved a separate identity for themselves and would rather be identified along those lines.

My view is that we start from our current 6 SW states while consulting with those in parts of Kogi and Kwara. If the Kogi and Kwara ones refuse to commit to the project, that's fine and no hard feelings. After all there are Yorubas in Benin and Togo, and they're cool where they're at while still enjoying good relations with the rest of the wider Yoruba family based on our shared historical and cultural ties.

We mustn't allow any petty excuse to rob us of an opportunity to have a Yoruba country. IMO, Yorubas that are currently not a part of the SW fold but are willing to join their brethren must be vocal and at the forefront of making such ambitions and aspirations known. I am sure the SW states will surely support them if they do. But they must be the ones to make the first moves.
Bro I just have one correction for this your post, The Kwarans are more Yoruba than some Yorubas in the SW forget Nigeria's Geo political zoning. Go to Kwara and you will know. The Yorubas in Kogi are the ones that needs consulting,they are the ones that are drifting away but as for Kwara they are even more Yoruba than Ondo people.

Akoko-Edo and Okun people in Kogi are the Yorubas drifting from the Bigger Yoruba entity.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by inkon: 10:41am On Jul 01, 2017
Channel that energy towards restructuring of Nigeria. Nobody is leaving this country. Nigeria is one and so shall it remain. Thank you
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Nobody: 10:49am On Jul 01, 2017
I used to think all Kwara Yorubas behave like their Hausa Fulani masters but I was wrong. I listened to Lagos talks two days ago and saw how Ayo (A kwaran) defended restructuring. He stood his grounds against the lousy Jimi disu who likes to shout shout and impose his opinions on people. He doesn't support restructuring and believes in his status quo, yet wants to use his platform to force everyone into submission. Ayo, if you're here on Nairaland, I'm so proud of you. Definitely not all kwarans lick aboki assess.

Status quo only enclaves the southern regions and upholds the Hausa Fulani born to rule oligarchy.

Op. Nice one. it's not sufficient to be drafting constitution up and down. We have to be vocal about what we really want. All these oduduwa republic today, lick abokiii asses tomorrow, open one Nigeria thread next day shows how unserious and divided we are.

Except may be work is being done behind the scene.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by limeta(f): 10:53am On Jul 01, 2017
deedeedee1:

Believe me, we dont want edos.
As you can see in previous comments that many yorubas do not agree with the op including you guys.




Good
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by limeta(f): 10:55am On Jul 01, 2017
HughJazz:
look at this flat head fucker .



Forget flat head bleeped
We don't want Yoruba
God forbid
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AshiwajuFoward: 11:00am On Jul 01, 2017
bakynes:

Bro I just have one correction for this your post, The Kwarans are more Yoruba than some Yorubas in the SW forget Nigeria's Geo political zoning. Go to Kwara and you will know. The Yorubas in Kogi are the ones that needs consulting,they are the ones that are drifting away but as for Kwara they are even more Yoruba than Ondo people.

Akoko-Edo and Okun people in Kogi are the Yorubas drifting from the Bigger Yoruba entity.

Relatively speaking, when comparing Yorubas in both states (Kwara and Kogi), I'll have to agree that you are correct, and I think I addressed this in a subsequent post I made after the one you quoted. Though I attribute this attitudinal difference to several factors.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AshiwajuFoward: 11:05am On Jul 01, 2017
limeta:




Forget flat head bleeped
We don't want Yoruba
God forbid

Yinmu. Don't even flatter yourself coz we sef no send una. I still fail to get why any right thinking Yoruba person would want to include y'all in a progressive Yoruba country. I don't get it at all. Abeg who una epp?? What value would you lots be adding to the fold? If anything una go become liability to us so just bug off already.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AshiwajuFoward: 11:06am On Jul 01, 2017
Olu317:
Yo are not Yoruba. Proof me wrong. Having the ability to speak and write Yoruba language doesn't make you a Yoruba person. So, kindly take away your unproductive and irritating opinion away from those who know the true state of Yoruba land.

Glad you know that guy's an impostor.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by jjjjj2017: 11:09am On Jul 01, 2017
oladeebo:

but!
[s]emi looki ile:
eso ikoyi omo agbon yon, omo agbon ti o ri ku sa!
yanbi nlolu oloota egi, omo a ku fa po ora!
ikoyi omo eru fina fina!

Olu!
iru ila wo le nko ninu agboo'le yin?
Se nsi nbe leeke re?
Abaja ni nbe leke e temi bayi![/s]
o je'bi nise l'o ye ki o pe ara re ni 'omo eru k'eru a bi lala l'enu'

iranu
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by limeta(f): 11:10am On Jul 01, 2017
AshiwajuFoward:


Yinmu. Don't even flatter yourself coz we sef no send una. I still fail to get why any right thinking Yoruba person would want to include y'all in a progressive Yoruba country. I don't get it at all. Abeg who una epp?? What value would you lots be adding to the fold? If anything una go become liability to us so just bug off already.


We don't want you lot simple
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by HopeAtHand: 11:14am On Jul 01, 2017
Olu317:
We,Yoruba know, you have your own personal perception but right now, it isn't NEEDED. Kindly keep off this thread with Your misplaced PRIORITY.

May God punish you a million times if you've ever commented on a Biafra, SS or SE thread when not invited. As if commenting there is your priority.

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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by oladeebo: 11:30am On Jul 01, 2017
jjjjj2017:
o je'bi nise l'o ye ki o pe ara re ni 'omo eru k'eru a bi lala l'enu'

iranu
'omo eru k'eru a bi lala l'enu'!
am I address at you?
keep off here!
ok!

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