₦airaland Forum

Obaluf0n:
Are you serious?

- I didn't know the moves to stop further encroachment on ancestral lands of the people of Iraye quarters which is one of 13 original communities making up Ife was politucal oppeession o!

- I didn't know the attempt at stopping the splitting of a single town into two kingdoms; was also oppression.

- I did not know the refusal to accede to the demand for a LG that would have made one of the cores of Ife which is Iraye (what you call Modakeke) a separate town was also political oppression, I never knew until you said it.

Using your premise, Yoruba's reaction to Igbo's claims to Lagos domination, ownership of certain areas/LG, demand for offices and demand to stop the use of Yoruba at the State House in the past years must have been political oppression o.

E kare sir, awon alaale a ma bless yin.

Well, you seem to misunderstood my perspective which is far deeper what you think considering the way the Modakeke had felt at that moment. Irrespective of the situation that led to internal fracas amongst us which was the pointer as the reason for the location and relocation of LOCAL GOVERNMENT,which was the genesis of the problem. I mentioned Political because the crave for all these issues was DEVELOPMENT. And people who tend to benefit from it once the people that had the intention of creating that problem/division had a filled day which they did my dear brother. You know I have stake at ILE IFE as all of us do. If for instance there were heavy war against all Yorubas today, where would all strive to return? Your answer is as good as I have knowledge of it as ILE IFE. Iraye and other Yoruba land will develop once we have our own country because all will have access self development . As you know, we will wage war against anyone that try to encroach on Yoruba land But as MODAKEKE are within the same lineage,the best bet is to appease ELEDUMARE always to guide us with wisdom in dealing with ourselves. There is no ethnicity in the world without her peculiar problems and Yoruba ethnicity isn't different . It is well with all of US.

Olu317:
Well, you seem to misunderstood my perspective which is far deeper what you think considering the way the Modakeke had felt at that moment. Irrespective of the situation that led to internal fracas amongst us which was the pointer as the reason for the location and relocation of LOCAL GOVERNMENT,which was the genesis of the problem. I mentioned Political because the crave for all these issues was DEVELOPMENT. And people who tend to benefit from it once the people that had the intention of creating that problem/division had a filled day which they did my dear brother. You know I have stake at ILE IFE as all of us do. If for instance there were heavy war against all Yorubas today, where would all strive to return? Your answer is as good as I have knowledge of it as ILE IFE. Iraye and other Yoruba land will develop once we have our own country because all will have access self development . As you know, we will wage war against anyone that try to encroach on Yoruba land But as MODAKEKE are within the same lineage,the best bet is to appease ELEDUMARE always to guide us with wisdom in dealing with ourselves. There is no ethnicity in the world without her peculiar problems and Yoruba ethnicity isn't different . It is well with all of US.

Your previous post seemed to have put the blames at the doorstep of the Ifes -- 'It was political and seen as a form of oppression of Modakeke'

Anyway, it is what it is.

Obaluf0n:
Your previous post seemed to have put the blames at the doorstep of the Ifes -- 'It was political and seen as a form of oppression of Modakeke'

Anyway, it is what it is.

It seems as I didn't express my opinion from the perspective I intended .I intentionally wouldn't put the blame on IFE but was really referring to the political bloc that had the intention of putting Yoruba nation in problem. This is from the angle I was really looking at. It is well with us bro . YORUBA REIGNS FOREVER.

omohayek:
As I noted earlier, there is simply no reason why the government should be the primary mover behind infrastructure, and looking at the industrial history of other countries shows that the private sector can handle it superbly, given an encouraging regulatory environment. The Nigerian fixation on government as the answer to all problems is a legacy of the oil boom happening just when socialism was at the height of fashion in the Third World.

how does private sector build roads without gouging users, I'm curious. inter city and neighbourhood roads o

omohayek:
Now, having set up an independent central bank with a highly credible governor whose track record is internationally respected, the next step required will be to ensure that the nation's fiscal policy matches up with its monetary policy, so that the central bank governor doesn't end up fighting a government trying to print its way out of trouble it has created for itself through impossible promises. The temptation for politicians to make expensive promises they can't pay for through taxation is strong in any democracy, and when times are good it is easy to assume the money will always be there to fund new programs and policies that are vote-winners (eg Yar'adua's national minimum wage increase), only for their unsustainability to be revealed down the road after a slow-down.

When the good times finally come to an end - and they always do, no matter the country - for politicians who are afraid of provoking a backlash by cutting spending, the only way out is either to borrow massively to temporarily cover the shortfall, or, if the current debts are too high, and willing borrowers can no longer be found, to simply print away the problems, by unleashing massive inflation that cuts the real cost of the government's expenditure. Often this will be blamed on drops in exchange-rates, but the truth is that with sensible fiscal and monetary policies, even very open economies can tolerate massive exchange-rate changes with little additional inflation; for example, the UK, which is far more import-dependent than Nigeria, has seen an effective 40% devaluation in the pound over the last year thanks to Brexit, but inflation has only gone up to 2.7%.

We have seen this inflationary-cycle dynamic at work many times in recent Nigerian history, from the IBB era onwards: governments that are no longer able to borrow to make up for low oil prices try to print more money without any additional resources to back the new cash, and as increasing amounts of currency go into circulation while production stays the same, the inevitable result is massive price rises, which give rise to strikes and other forms of unrest, which the governments then try to subdue through further inflationary pay increases ... and on and on the cycle goes, with the citizens left worse off in the end than they would have been under less "generous" but thriftier governments.

But how do you compel a government to do the right thing, even in the face of strong political temptation to think only of short-term popularity? By putting in place budgetary rules they won't have the freedom to break, and appointing independent overseers who can ring the alarms when the politicians try to get around the rules.

The basic idea behind the fiscal policy rules is simple enough: whatever the average growth-rate of an economy over the long term (I won't get into the growth economics here), in the short to medium term, the rate will tend to oscillate around that long-term trajectory, with good times followed by less bouyant periods, so a sensible government should save up while times are good, which will give it extra room to cushion the pain during the slower periods. The end result is that the government will be forced to run surpluses at the high point in the economic cycle, allowing it to run Keynesian "pump priming" deficits at the low point, both of which help to smooth out the performance of the economy. Fiscal policy rules can also be extended beyond mandatory budgetary surpluses at certain periods, to preventing governments from borrowing once outstanding debt reaches a pre-determined percentage of GDP, so spendthrift administrations don't burden their successors with onerous obligations.

As everyone familiar with Nigeria knows, rules are easy to make, but getting them enforced is another thing, and here is where independent oversight comes in. If a body is set up to carry out thorough and objective assessment of government spending plans, with a requirement that its findings be made public and easily accessible, then it becomes harder for populist politicians to make unaffordable promises, as their opponents will have ready ammunition to reveal the hollowness of their proposals. The United States Congressional Budget Office is perhaps the best known such organization, but the UK also has a similar organ, called the Office for Budget Responsibility, as do many other countries. The virtue of such institutions is that by focusing only on making independent assessments of spending plans, political attacks on their findings (or attempts to undermine their independence) are made transparent to the public as partisan angling for advantage.

who will appoint these budgetary offices

omohayek:
I'd like to steer the discussion back in a more constructive direction, by raising a few issues that I think are essential if economic growth is to accelerate beyond the current sluggish Nigerian pace. I'll begin by discussing the topic of monetary policy, the sort of thing that never seems to come up in Nigeria's low-IQ political discussions.

Whatever we choose to call the currency, it is going to be essential, particularly in the early years, that it establish itself as everything the Naira has proven not to be: stable, with low inflation of less than 5% per annum on average, and freely convertible without any import bans, licenses, exchange limits, special rates, or any other such distortions. Ideally, it would become the new Deutschmark of West Africa, the currency of choice to turn to when governments in neighboring countries are losing the trust of their citizens.

Why is this issue so important? Because the stability and convertibility of a currency have a huge influence in determining both the domestic savings rate and the rate of foreign direct investment (FDI). Apart from the infrastructural issues we all know about, one of the biggest constraints on Nigerian businesses and farmers is access to capital, whether in the form of equity investment or credit, and the only long term solution to this problem is to both raise the domestic savings rate, and encourage much higher rates of FDI. The problem with highly inflationary and volatile currencies is that they penalize savers, both domestic and foreign: why put your money in bonds, or lend money at any fixed rate, if a sudden bout of inflation will cut the value of your lending in half? If you're a domestic saver, under such circumstances you are better off either converting your money into dollars/pounds/yen and sending it abroad (capital flight), or staying away from productive investments in companies and agricultural enterprises, and sticking to fixed assets that are inflation-proof (usually housing). If you've ever wondered why Nigerian thieves don't bother reinvesting at home, this is one of the main reasons why

So, it should be clear now that inflation is bad, very very bad, but what exactly can we do to fight it? The first tool for the job would to establish an independent central bank with a clear mandate to hit a certain inflation target, and reasonably long terms for the bank governor. As the credibility of governors is extremely important in setting inflation expectations, another step worth taking would be to look for the initial appointees from abroad, rather than treating the role as yet another opportunity for each city, town and LGA to put "our son" or "our daughter" in a "juicy" role. This suggestion is not as radical as it sounds: the head of the Bank of England is from Canada, while the previous chief of the Bank of Israel was an American. Showing a willingness to seek out an expert from abroad, a person detached enough from domestic politics to be willing to take unpopular policy decisions, will only bolster the credibility of the new nation.

I thought agric was inflation proof

omohayek:
While I understand what you're saying about needing funds in the short term, I still don't think the political temptations such funding brings will be worth it. There simply can't be effective representation without the voting public having tight control over the purse strings, and that means taxation has to be where the vast majority of public money comes from.

Another reason why I don't want any reliance on resource-based government spending is that it tempts politicians into interfering in matters that are best left to the private sector. When taxpayers are footing the bill, foolish, revenue-destroying, white-elephant prestige projects become a lot harder to sell (e.g. Ajaokuta, Nigeria Airways), and politicians are forced to concentrate on just those things that will make a direct difference to ordinary people's lives - law and order, education, healthcare, good transportation infrastructure, business-friendly regulations, etc.

The long and short of it is that natural resource rents are the political equivalent of fast-food: they may fill an immediate short-term need, but the long-term damage they do simply isn't worth it in most cases. Better that we run a lean, efficient, taxpayer-funded government that recognizes upfront the primacy of the private sector, instead of one where thieving politicians fight over whose "turn" it is to "chop" from a "national cake", and then use overstaffed, inefficient parastatals and government organizations to reward their followers with deadweight "jobs". Taxpayers should be able to feel outraged at the sight of lazy, absentee or corrupt government workers, and have a reasonable expectation of seeing their anger translated into effective action by politicians who want to keep their jobs and can't rely on godfather funding to do so.

As for your point about agriculture, I agree productivity needs raising, but this doesn't require costly, heavy-handed government interaction: see here for more of my thoughts on the subject.

clicked 'here ' .just showing gibberish. could you provide link to your agric productivity related thoughts

SuperS1Panther:
Please the constitution should clearly state that the region is independent of FG. FG cannot meddle in the affairs of the Region.

This is to prevent the kind of unholy and evil connivance and civilian coup d'etat by Balewa, Ahmadu Bello, Zik and Michael Okpara with active participation of Fani-Kayode, Akinjide, Fajemirokun etc to send Awo to prison over unsubstantiated claim.

It is stated in it. Read it again.

edochie12:
if u people want oduduwa nation,u have to come out and fight,u can't sit in ur comfort room amd declare oduduwa republic

Small time now, you will say kanu doesn't want war. Is there confusion in IPOB camp? You don't seem to understand what your commander really wants.

ShangoThor:
My little contribution this afternoon.
I predict this topic in terms of implementation ought to be considered D.O.A.

Basic premise:
Not all sub-collectives relate to being descendants of Ooduduwa, however the common thread running through our collective existence is an affiliation with 'Ile-Ife' as the source.

Thus any idea of a republic ought to be called 'Ile-Ife' or Simply 'Ife' and not 'Ooduduwa' republic.

Now considering this is an idea that needs to be sold to all sub-communities underneath the context of a global or transcending umbrella identity, and it is not going to be IMPOSED, I suggest you do a little bit of consultation unless you are not taking the whole enterprise seriously and you intend to waste people's time.

Cheers

Everyone who speaks Yoruba considers himself as Omo Oduduwa, either directly or indirectly

We gats dey bump this thread steady

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A physical meeting needs to be organized. There has been enough debate online. Where and when will it take place?

ooduapathfinder:
Thank you all for your contributions. Of couse, this will have to be sold and NOT enforced. And this particular debate is very encouraging. As to Edo/Delta, some of them participated in the making of this Draft and actually insisted on being included. Having said that, it is a question they will have to address and answer, even as we are cognizant of their geo-political location. Any interested organization or individual can make their formal submissions to "editor@ooduapathfinder.com". These will form part of the preparations towards further steps.
So, sirs/mas, in the meantime, let the debate continue.
Editor.

Please remove Edo and delta state from the list. We don't have any thing to do with oduduwa republic.
Thank you.

Igbos should learn from the Yorubas

edochie12:
if u people want oduduwa nation,u have to come out and fight,u can't sit in ur comfort room amd declare oduduwa republic

You just have to study your fight well and don't jump in to it.
Yoruba ni majamasa ni'anmo akinkanju Ogun.
We can't behave childish as you guys

Oyinlomobambam:
Did u know that an average Yoruba are educated and wise, they don't make unnecessary hate speech or making trouble everywhere

my oga freedom is not given or gotten by writing long grammar,it is taken by all means. Prove me wrong by listening any country that got their freedom through writing a long letter

Ereolamide:
Remove Edo and Delta state, we want a homogeneous Yoruba speaking nation.

where do you want us to go? We are already used to people from the west, they are like our brothers. Other southern region ( Rivers, Cross river, Bayelsa) and South East have character and culture totally different from us, they are like strangers to us. We are closer to Yorubers.

Why am I just seeing this thread now.

Seems everyone already took a pause from Nairaland or why do we have almost 2 years break from the last comment in 2017?

ooduapathfinder:
www.ooduapathfinder.com



INTRODUCTION:

When different Nationalities and Ethnic Groups live in the same country, it is imperative that they each let the others know what their special interests are, in order to make living with each other worthwhile. If all of them are to live in peace, they must each know what is of paramount concern to each and every Nationality. Given the fact that the Yoruba Nation also extend beyond Nigeria, she has the obligation to preserve her cultural heritage and way of life within Nigeria and elsewhere where she has a sizeable community.
In a situation where the Yoruba Nation share a common country with some other Nationalities either with feudal tendencies or conformity by coercion, this can be stifling to the fullest development of the Yoruba. It is therefore in the interest of the Yoruba Nation to have as much Autonomy in their Region as a Truly Federal arrangement would demand. This means that more power will be with the Nationality, where, with a True Federal set-up, planning and execution of social, economic and other services that meets the aspiration of Yoruba Nationhood will be possible.
As we all now know, there is a serious question mark on Nigeria as a Federal State. This has led to current agitations and permutations as to correcting this fundamental defect.
In considering current developments, certain areas that need to be thoroughly examined have been identified. Specifically, a Truly Federal Nigeria in which the Constituent Nationalities will posses a reasonable degree of Autonomy will require clear understanding of the impact of the following on the Nigerian Union:
(1) The development of social and economic relationship between the various Nationalities within Nigeria and their Diaspora; for the Yoruba Nation, that will be Brazil, Cuba, the U.S, the West Indies and South America without the overriding legislative power of the Nigerian Union.
(2) The ability of the Nations to pursue micro and macro Economic policies
(3) Regional Command of the Armed Forces, taking cognizance of the fact that a country’s defense is linked to its foreign policy and vice versa.
ENDORSEMENT OF CONSTITUTIONS:
(1) Endorsement of Regional or Nationality Constitutions through Referendums within the various Regions or Nationalities only.
(2) Endorsement of the Negotiated Federal Constitution through a country-wide Referendum.



DRAFT OF THE OODUA REGION YORUBA CONSTITUTION

In order to secure the dual ends of good government for, as well as peaceable living among ourselves and between us and other Nationalities in Nigeria, we, the OODUA Yoruba people do commission and give consent to the following as the Constitution of the Yoruba Nation:

THE OODUA NATION
ARTICLE 1
SECTIONS:
1. YORUBALAND, existing as an AUTONOMOUS Nation in a UNION OF NIGERIAN CONSTITUENT NATIONALITIES, shall be known and styled as “ODUDUWA REGION”.
2. The Central government of the Union shall have no power to interfere nor intervene in the affairs of the ODUDUWA REGION, save as shall be agreed to by three quarters of the members of the Region’s Parliament.
3. The land description of the Oodua Yoruba Nation corresponds to the present states of Ekiti, Eko, Ogun, Ondo, Osun, Oyo and all Oodua lands in Kwara, Kogi, Edo and Delta States.
4. There shall be a Division of the Federal Armed Forces in the Region, 90% of which personnel shall be
indigenes of the Region. The Divisional commander shall be an indigene of Oduduwa Region.

THE GOVERNMENT
ARTICLE ll
SECTIONS:
1. Oduduwa Region shall be a Federation consisting of a Regional government, provinces (Ipinle) and
Localities (Ibile). The Region as well as each Province and Local Council shall have a capital city which shall be the seat of Government.
2. ODUDUWA Region shall adopt a parliamentary system of government.
3. All legislative powers shall be vested in PARLIAMENT of the Region, without prejudice to the rights of provinces and local Councils to enact laws and ordinances, relating to their provinces and local councils.
4. Any elected Member of Parliament, Provincial and Local Assembly who wishes to join another party must first resign his/her parliamentary seat and re-contest election if he/she so wishes on the platform of his/her new party.

THE REGIONAL GOVERNMENT

ARTICLE lll
SECTIONS:
1. The Parliament shall be composed of members elected every 4 years by the people of the region.
2. Such persons shall be elected on the platform of the political party they represent or as independent
candidates. There shall be no restriction on the number of political parties.
3. The Proceedings of Parliament shall be directed by the Speaker who shall be elected from among the members.
4. Elections into Parliament shall be held on June 12 of the election year, while the swearing in of elected representatives shall be the 8th day of August and annual opening session of Parliament shall be 23rd day of September (to commemorate the peace treaty that ended Kiriji war on September 23, 1886) of the same year.
5. The members of Parliament shall be remunerated for their services, as shall be determined by law.
6. Parliament shall enact all laws for raising revenue. No money shall be drawn from the treasury
except through an Appropriation Act.
7. Parliament shall have the power to make laws governing taxes, duties, excise, payment of debt, etc
It shall have the power to make laws governing the sourcing of funds on behalf of the Region and to
regulate commerce with the co-prosperity spheres within the Union of Nigeria.
8. Taxes are to be collected at Regional, Provincial and Local levels for promotion of the general welfare
of the people.
9. Parliament shall have the power to make provisions for the general welfare security and prosperity of the Region. It shall set the standards for economic, educational, social and cultural advancement of Oodua people.
10. Parliament shall have the power to establish Regional Police Service with responsibility to
investigate Regional crimes. This Police Service shall have no superintending control over the Provincial and Council Police service, but shall coordinate activities at the Regional, Provincial and Local council levels.
11. There shall be a Regional Prosecutors’ office responsible for the prosecution of cases as investigated by the Regional police. The Regional Prosecutor shall be elected by popular vote and shall
not be a registered member of any political party.
12. Recognizing that the Oduduwa Nation is multi-religious society, the citizens shall have the
right to freedom of worship.
13. Parliament shall make no retroactive law. Nor shall it abridge the freedom of speech or the right of
peaceful assembly. It shall not abridge the right of citizens to petition government for redress. The
privilege of the writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended. Parliament shall not make any law abridging the fundamental rights, freedoms and liberty of the citizens. All Oodua persons resident in any of the provinces of the Region shall be entitled to the same privileges and immunities.
14. The powers not delegated to the Parliament or the Provincial/Local Assemblies by this Constitution are reserved in the people, which may be invoked by a simple majority of voters through a Referendum in the Region, Province or Locality as the case may be.
EXECUTIVE OF THE REGIONAL GOVERNMENT
ARTICLE IV
SECTIONS:
1. A Head of State/Aare shall be elected for a period of 5 years of not more than 2 terms. The Aare shall not belong to any political party, and must not be less than 60 years. The Aare must be a person whose parents belong to a community indigenous to Oodua Nation. The Aare shall declare open the parliamentary Session, represent the Region on ceremonial matters, announce the dissolution of Parliament and all such matters.
2. The Aare shall be elected from an electoral college composed of selected leaders from the provinces. The provincial representative could be traditional rulers or statesmen and women.

3. Executive power at the Regional level shall reside in the Premier-in-Council (PM) elected for a period of 4 years. The leader of the majority party in parliament shall be PM and shall be vested with the
power to appoint Cabinet Ministers. The PM must be a person whose parents belong to a community indigenous to Oodua Nation.
4. The Parliament shall stand dissolved at the expiration of its 4-year term. In the event of a motion of no confidence passed on the government by not less than three-quarters of members of Parliament, the PM and the government shall resign forthwith. Thereafter, the Aare shall call on the leader of the
party which appears able to form a government that will enjoy majority support in Parliament to fulfil
the term of the current Parliament or new election held within 30 days of dissolution of Parliament.
5. The Council of Chiefs and Obas. There shall be a Regional House of Chiefs and a Traditional Council of Obas and Chiefs at the Provincial and Local Council levels.

JUDICIARY

ARTICLE V
SECTIONS:
1. The Judicial power of the Region shall be vested in the Supreme Court, Court of Appeal, High Court,
Customary Court and Other lower courts as the Parliament may establish.
2. There shall be a Court of Appeal in each of the provinces.
3. There shall be, in each province, a High Court from which appeals shall lie to the Court of Appeal and
Supreme Court.
4. There shall be a CONSTITUTIONAL COURT of not more than 7 persons. Members of this court shall not be less than 60 years old. The court shall determines cases of serious Constitutional issues among Local, Province and Regional Governments, and between individuals and government. Members shall be nominated by the Body of Benchers in each provinces; subject to ratification by Parliament. Membership of this court is for life, subject to soundness of body and mind.

5. FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS:
All Oodua persons shall be protected by the various international treaties passed in the Bill of Rights of the UN and various regional Bills of Rights such as the African Human and People’s Rights.
LAND AND MINERAL RESOURCES
ARTICLE Vl
SECTION:
1. Oodua Customary forms of land ownership shall be respected. Exploitation of mineral resources shall be the prerogative of the host community without prejudice to the right of the Local, Provincial and
Regional Governments to levy appropriate taxes for the welfare of the people of Oodua land and without prejudice to the right of the Federal Government to levy taxes.

THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT
ARTICLE Vll
SECTIONS:
1. There shall be established a PROVICIAL ASSEMBLY in each of the provinces of the Region.
2. Provisions of ARTICLES ONE and TWO in this Constitution as applied to the Parliament of the
Region, shall apply to the PROVINCIAL ASSEMBLY except that the tenure of the Assembly shall be 3 years.

3. The Executive Power of the Province shall reside in the PROVINCIAL GOVERNOR-IN-COUNCIL, who must be an elected member of the Assembly and vested with the power to appoint members of the Provincial Government. The size of the provincial cabinet shall be determined
by consideration for the financial resources of the province.
4. The Assembly shall make provision for the establishment of a Provincial Police Service, which shall be empowered to maintain law and order in the Province and investigate crimes within its jurisdiction. The Provincial Police shall be responsible to the Provincial Governor.
5. There shall be a Provincial Prosecutor’s Office responsible for the prosecution of cases as investigated by the Provincial Police. The Provincial Prosecuting Officer shall be elected by popular vote, and shall not be a registered member of any political party.

THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT
ARTICLE Vlll
SECTIONS:
1. There shall be established a LOCAL ASSEMBLY in each of the Local Councils of the Region.
2. Provision of ARTICLE ONE and TWO in this Constitution as applied to the Parliament of the
Region, shall apply to the LOCAL ASSEMBLY except that the tenure of the Assembly shall be 3 years.

3. The Executive Power of the Local Council shall reside in the LOCAL ASSEMBLY CHAIRMAN-IN-COUNCIL, who must be an elected member of the Assembly and vested with the power to appoint members of the local government. The size of the Local Government cabinet shall be determined by consideration of the financial resources of the local council. The electorate shall have a say in the remuneration of elected members of the Councils.
4. The Assembly shall make provision for the establishment of a Local Council Police Service, which
shall be empowered to maintain law and order in the Local Council, investigate crimes within its jurisdiction. The Council Police Service shall be responsible to the Local Assembly. There shall be Council Prosecutor’s Office responsible for the prosecution of cases as investigated by the Local Police Service. The Council Prosecutor shall be elected by popular vote in the Local Council and shall not be a registered member of any political party.
THE OODUA PERSON
ARTICLE lX
SECTION:
1. All persons either of whose parents or grandparents belong or belonged to a community indigenous
to Oodua land. All persons in the Diaspora, of African decent who claim Oduduwa/Yoruba ancestry, either through cultural affiliation or genealogical connection.

In view of Article 1 Section 2, This CONSTITUTION can now be passed through all The EOOEOO(EKO, OGUN, OYO, EKITI, ONDO OSUN STATES TO OBTAIN THREE QUARTERS RATIFICATION FOR NECESSARY FOLLOW UP.

ESDKING:
Haha haha, you people are comedians, are you tried of @bokis ?.

Anyways, such country called Oovua abi na Oodua only exist on nairaland.

You must remain with your masters whether you like it or not.

That's an Idiot.

edochie12:
if u people want oduduwa nation,u have to come out and fight,u can't sit in ur comfort room amd declare oduduwa republic

This Choice of Weapon is excellent for now. We are on Recce.

Slikbae:
If you're insulted now you will start crying to the mods right?

YORUBAS don't bleep like Bushmen.

Buoda, good day to you. I went to the website I quoted and tried to 'become a member' but it did not show anything on the page. Maybe you could provide information on how to sign up or if there's an actual option for signing up.

E seun buoda mi, awon alaale a gbe wa.

Good.

Buoda mi, I resonate with your thought here but I want to take it further that Edo should be set apart from the list.

Uncle ooduapathfinder

I doubt we have any land(s) in Edo. I am starting to dislike our seeming fixation on Edo -- we have nothing in common with them other than one of our ancestors going there to help fix their inept monarchy. After he left, the monarchy was hijacked and it is now an Edo thing. Outside our influence on the monarchy/art, we are different from the Edo peoples. I feel we should let them out of this abeg, they do not belong to us and we do not belong to them. Our bond had long been cut off by them with the creation of Mid-Western Region, please let us leave it at that.

This is a developing Constitution, leaving rooms for sober moods ahead and economic mergers and combines.

ShangoThor:
My little contribution this afternoon.
I predict this topic in terms of implementation ought to be considered D.O.A.

Basic premise:
Not all sub-collectives relate to being descendants of Ooduduwa, however the common thread running through our collective existence is an affiliation with 'Ile-Ife' as the source.

Thus any idea of a republic ought to be called 'Ile-Ife' or Simply 'Ife' and not 'Ooduduwa' republic.

Now considering this is an idea that needs to be sold to all sub-communities underneath the context of a global or transcending umbrella identity, and it is not going to be IMPOSED, I suggest you do a little bit of consultation unless you are not taking the whole enterprise seriously and you intend to waste people's time.

Cheers

To be ratified by 3/4 of EOOEOO STATES ASSEMBLIES NOW AND FOR NECESSARY FOLLOW UP.

MrMaestro:
Look at the jealous hater jealous at the fact that Yoruba people continue to prove to be the ultimate thinkers. Don't get jealous, get better.

Just an Idiot.

Jetleeee:
I like the whole idea but wtfook is Edo and Delta.

Deleeeeeeete!!!! That "Oduduwa" name sounds meh. But we can always come up with new names later anyway.

P. S: DAWN commission already has a proper, well-designed blueprint for Yorubaland should Nigeria break up. Agreed by all SW governors. So this one won't count much.

That's why I laugh at some of these red-cap thugs that think Yorubas aren't strategizing. Dummies!

We're still milking whatever is available in this Nigeria lol

RED-CAP THUGS? YOU'RE A GENIUS.

All these are easier said than done. It is good that it is being debated though. A little debate never hurt anyone.

The major problem Yorubas will have should they be given their republic has not been addressed.

The Yorubas in Nigeria are not united. Or should I say united enough to form a nation that that can succeed in all ramifications. I am Yoruba and I have studied our attitude towards ourselves.

The exact same thing happening in Nigeria today will also happen in a future Yoruba nation.

We are famous for having fought the longest civil war among ourselves in any ethnic groupings in the world.

We will have a Yoruba nation and all of a sudden people from Ogun state, Ijebu/Egba axis will feel superior to other Yorubas and will probably dominate the leadership class.

The leadership class has always seem to come from there anyway. Awolowo, MKO Abiola, etc

The Oyo/Ibadan axis will soon start considering Yorubas from Ondo axis as not really Yoruba.

Etc. I think we can imagine the scenario.

The Yoruba nation is a combination of different sub-ethnicities. And it is important that for full and true integration to occur, we cannot afford to make the same mistake Nigeria made.

It is important that no sub-ethnicity is made to feel inferior or less in the new nation if it will ever materialise. Everyone must be given the same opportunity no matter what your sub ethnic grouping is, as long as you are a citizen of the nation. That's the only way you can engender a true feeling of patriotism that can make you want to die for your country if need be.

In all ramifications, the idea of state of origin must never find its way into our lexicon. It must always be state of residence.

That in my opinion is one of the surest way to fight this. Otherwise what we will end up doing is just loading Nigeria 2.0