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Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 6:24pm On Jul 13, 2017
AnonyNymous:
I will repeat myself. In different terms. Science discovers things. And makes theories based on their logical discoveries. Which can be repeated by anyone, anywhere in the world. When a new theory happens to negate an old one it is because of a new understanding of the process going on.

Religion on the other hand claims the existence of talking donkeys without visible proof. Without any data to support that a talking donkey has ever existed except on book written by some guy somewhere. Then they make hypotheses or rather 'excuses' to try to justify how a talking donkey could've existed. The claim of talking donkeys wasn't made by building upon data if whispering donkeys or humming donkeys. It was just rabdinly made one day and then excuses wee provided for it. Its the same way natural phenomena are 'explained'. Random statements are made to explain the reason for natural phenomena. Random statements that have no basis in science. Then these random statements are now rationalized by putting hyoithese and theories together to make it seem like they make any sense.

Religion is the scientific method backwards
It doesn't matter how many ways you say it, it's still crock.

The scientific method you know is simply showing perception bias in man.

Science does not prove existence!

That which is already existing does not need science to approve it's existence!

That which is existing was ALREADY FUNCTIONAL before perception warped man came on the scene and in their selfish attempt to help themselves and their scepticism began to discover and tell themselves that so and so exists even though they already knew that those things already existed before they discovered them.

Hypothesis is for man and not for those things which do not understand science or need science to approve of their existence.

Why don't you try explaining your scientific hypothesis to a quark or to an atom or even to a hairy chested Hoff crab and see them call you stupid . All they care about is their functionality and not your claims on them.

Do you understand me now?
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by ScepticalPyrrho: 6:29pm On Jul 13, 2017
spacetacular:
Technology is obviously way ahead of your reasoning ability.

www.express.co.uk/news/science/784556/NASA-International-Space-Station-ISS-live-stream-watch-Earth-space/amp

That was published on the 9th of July. Get yourself updated.

So HUMANS are on other planets?

Wow! Just wow! cheesy
You keep insulting. I really wish you were the Christian here.

Try harder to get it right.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 6:40pm On Jul 13, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
You keep insulting. I really wish you were the Christian here.

Try harder to get it right.
I was simply stating the obvious and not insulting. Was it not OBVIOUS you did not know that LIVE STREAMING was already being done in space thereby proving my comment true per description?

I am a Christian who says it as it should be said. Some of you lot deserve some hard knocks.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman:
spacetacular:
You are the one not seeing the bigger picture. The whole world simply meant THE WHOLD WORLD regardless of present or future locations or populations. It was simply documenting a FUTURE EVENT which would fit into the PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE IN THE TIME IT DOES HAPPEN.

you are so myopic to say the least. Can you deny the involvement of television in global viewing of symbolic events? Why do you think everyone is clamouring for an identity on cable television these days? It is all leading to a singular event and in time those who would witness it would make sense of it all.
Quit telling lies. The people that wrote the bible never knew rhat humans will ever invent electricity. The writers of the bi Le SPECIFICALLY said that Jesus will be seen coming from the clouds. Jesus Himself said he will be seen coming from the cloud and you are here tring to lie that the clouds means TV. No wonder christians can not even agree on anything again these days because making things up as your go is the name of the game for you guys. That was how KingEbukasBlog said that Jesus ascended into heaven through a defunct portal that he invented from his anuus.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 7:44pm On Jul 13, 2017
dalaman:
Quit telling lies. The people that wrote the bible never knew rhat humans will ever invent electricity. The writers of the bi Le SPECIFICALLY said that Jesus will be seen coming from the clouds. Jesus Himself said he will be seen coming from the cloud and you are here tring to.lie that the clouds means TV. No wonder christians can not even agree on anything again these days because making things up as your go is the American of the game for you guys. That was how KingEbukasBlog said that Jesus ascended into heaven through a defunct portal that he invented from his anuus.
Jesus said HE WOULD BE SEEN coming from the clouds right? HOW?

The writers of the Bible do not need to know anything about the invention of electricity in the future BECAUSE THAT RECORDED EVEN IS MEANT FOR THE FUTURE!

Why is this so hard to understand for you?

Carefully think then try to make meaningful comments sir. You guys say the most shallow things and it makes me wonder indeed.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 8:06pm On Jul 13, 2017
spacetacular:
Jesus said HE WOULD BE SEEN coming from the clouds right? HOW?

The writers of the Bible do not need to know anything about the invention of electricity in the future BECAUSE THAT RECORDED EVEN IS MEANT FOR THE FUTURE!

Why is this so hard to understand for you?

Carefully think then try to make meaningful comments sir. You guys say the most shallow things and it makes me wonder indeed.
You are busy telling lies to explain absurdity away. Jesus said he will be seen coming from the clouds because magical thinking was their way of life then. Many of the things he said are clearly false. He told his desciples he'll return during their life time. Told the chief priest that he'll see him return from the clouds among other lies. The Jewish hippe is dead and all you are left with is to try to spin ancient mythology and fiction into today's reality by saying that Jesus will be seen on TV. You guys are very hilarious.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by JackBizzle(op): 8:28pm On Jul 13, 2017
dalaman:
You are busy telling lies to explain absurdity away. Jesus said he will be seen coming from the clouds because magical thinking was their way of life then. Many of the things he said are clearly false. He told his desciples he'll return during their life time. Told the chief priest that he'll see him return from the clouds among other lies. The Jewish hippe is dead and all you are left with is to try to spin ancient mythology and fiction into today's reality by saying that Jesus will be seen on TV. You guys are very hilarious.
You are wasting time with someone who refused to use sense.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by ScepticalPyrrho: 8:37pm On Jul 13, 2017
spacetacular:
I was simply stating the obvious and not insulting. Was it not OBVIOUS you did not know that LIVE STREAMING was already being done in space thereby proving my comment true per description?

I am a Christian who says it as it should be said. Some of you lot deserve some hard knocks.
You thought it'll score you cheap points to prove something else and not Yahweh's existence?

Keep trying
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 9:18pm On Jul 13, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
You thought it'll score you cheap points to prove something else and not Yahweh's existence?

Keep trying
Well you thought wrong. Points are not my focus. Clarity is!
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f):
dalaman:
You are busy telling lies to explain absurdity away. Jesus said he will be seen coming from the clouds because magical thinking was their way of life then. Many of the things he said are clearly false. He told his desciples he'll return during their life time. Told the chief priest that he'll see him return from the clouds among other lies. The Jewish hippe is dead and all you are left with is to try to spin ancient mythology and fiction into today's reality by saying that Jesus will be seen on TV. You guys are very hilarious.
You can keep lying to yourself by deceptively creating the impression you have actually thought this one through and seen it all in one view.

I am actually doing your critical thinking for you. You are not even trying!

You guys are pathetic!
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f):
JackBizzle:
You are wasting time with someone who refused to use sense.
For you, no matter how hard you try waking up your senses it would still remain snoring!
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by JackBizzle(op): 10:14pm On Jul 13, 2017
The earlier people ignore the spectacular clown, the better.

Remember how we ignored Sciencewatch to death?
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 10:25pm On Jul 13, 2017
JackBizzle:
The earlier people ignore the spectacular clown, the better.

Remember how we ignored Sciencewatch to death?
Why does a simple lady such as I intimidate you so much?

Same way you ignored your brain and its senses until it voluntarily went on hiatus.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by ScepticalPyrrho: 10:39pm On Jul 13, 2017
spacetacular:
Well you thought wrong. Points are not my focus. Clarity is!
Sweet dreams...
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by Nobody: 10:41pm On Jul 13, 2017
Insincere arguments abound
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 11:13pm On Jul 13, 2017
LightandDarkness:
Insincere arguments abound
Illogical liars abound!
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by ScienceWatch: 11:31pm On Jul 13, 2017
JackBizzle:
The earlier people ignore the spectacular clown, the better.

Remember how we ignored Sciencewatch to death?
No you are wrong again. LACKBIZZLE.

Sciencewatch ignored the COWARD ATHEISTS after studies revealed that ATHEISM is a mental illness.

Thanks to Hond, two classes of Atheists are clearly defined for the benefit of truth seekers.
Is it a coincidence that Lackbizzle has chosen the lower class ......."COWARD"
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by ScienceWatch: 11:41pm On Jul 13, 2017
JackBizzle:
The earlier people ignore the spectacular clown, the better.

Remember how we ignored Sciencewatch to death?
The lady, Spacetacular expressed disappointment at your COWARDICE. She wants to know why you are intimidated by her ?

She is very smart. She can see right through you.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by hopefulLandlord: 6:27am On Jul 14, 2017
spacetacular:
Stop deliberately confusing yourself. I asked a simple question.
just saw this now
is it possible that Jesus comes before the end of today?
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by CatfishBilly: 8:21am On Jul 14, 2017
Promising thread just got scattered by a ridiculous claim.
I think this one is done. On to the next thread.


Besides, nobody don still answer my question.
Do prayers work despite an incompetent doctor?
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 9:03am On Jul 14, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
just saw this now

is it possible that Jesus comes before the end of today?
Stop deliberately dodging a simple question. Or did you not understand it?
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 9:05am On Jul 14, 2017
CatfishBilly:
Promising thread just got scattered by a ridiculous claim.
I think this one is done. On to the next thread.


Besides, nobody don still answer my question.
Do prayers work despite an incompetent doctor?
I have my own questions for you.

1. Are prayers offered only and always in the face of medical incompetence?

2. Are you an incompetent doctor?

3. Who can assess the competence of a doctor when that person is likely medically ignorant?
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by CatfishBilly: 9:12am On Jul 14, 2017
spacetacular:
I have my own questions for you.

1. Are prayers offered only and always in the face of medical incompetence?

2. Are you an incompetent doctor?

3. Who can assess the competence of a doctor when that person is likely medically ignorant?
1) Nope, prayers can be offered both in the face of an incompetent and a competent doctor.

2) I don't think I'm an incompetent doctor. I've not been sued yet, never faced a disciplinary committee, never been told so by a patient/patient relative.

3) Competence of a doctor can only be determined by his/her colleagues

So, can you now answer mine?
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by hopefulLandlord: 9:19am On Jul 14, 2017
spacetacular:
Stop deliberately dodging a simple question. Or did you not understand it?
answer the damn question, you're asking if technology can improve in the future that every single human would be able to see the same thing at the same time? this is a forecast that can neither by denied or accepted cuz the future is unknown

now answer my own question, is it possible for your Jesus to come back before the end of today?
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 9:31am On Jul 14, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
answer the damn question, you're asking if technology can improve in the future that every single human would be able to see the same thing at the same time? this is a forecast that can neither by denied or accepted cuz the future is unknown

now answer my own question, is it possible for your Jesus to come back before the end of today?
Do you see how you lot make fools of yourselves? I deliberately asked you a question with an ALREADY AVAILABLE ANSWER and you couldn't even see the fact that the answer is ALREADY EXISTING!

today (thanks to cable and satellite technology) THE WHOLE WORLD CAN SEE THE SAME THING AT THE SAME TIME! I suppose when you watch BBC or other major news networks where you are there is delayed Relay elsewhere on earth right?

Based on the fact that you could not see an obvious presence of this technology today shows that you guys CANNOT THINK NOR CAN YOU COMPREHEND?!

your question is as laughable as the fact that you could not see or comprehend something that was already available in today's world and indeed has been available since the 23rd of July 1962 which was 55 years ago.

Wow! Just wow!
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 9:32am On Jul 14, 2017
CatfishBilly:
1) Nope, prayers can be offered both in the face of an incompetent and a competent doctor.

2) I don't think I'm an incompetent doctor. I've not been sued yet, never faced a disciplinary committee, never been told so by a patient/patient relative.

3) Competence of a doctor can only be determined by his/her colleagues

So, can you now answer mine?
The answers you gave has answered your own question. THINK DEEP AND YOU WILL SEE THE ANSWER IN YOUR ANSWERS!
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by hopefulLandlord: 9:34am On Jul 14, 2017
spacetacular:
Do you see how you lot make fools of yourself? I deliberately asked you a question with an ALREADY ANSWER and you couldn't even see the fact that the answer is ALREADY EXISTING

today (thanks to cable and satellite technology) THE WHOLE WORLD CAN SEE THE SAME THING AT THE SAME TIME! I suppose when you watch BBC or other major news networks where you are there is delayed Relay elsewhere on earth right?

Based on the fact that you could not see an obvious presence of this technology today shows that you guys CANNOT THINK NOR CAN YOU COMPREHEND?!

your question is as laughable as the fact that you could not see or comprehend something that was already available in today's world and indeed has been available since the 23rd of July 1962 which was 52 years ago.

Wow! Just wow!
is it possible for your Jesus to come before the end of today, Yes/No should surface not sermons
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 9:36am On Jul 14, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
is it possible for your Jesus to come before the end of today, Yes/No should surface not sermons
Laughable as expected. You still cannot see the ridiculousness in your question. This is absolutely proof of perception bias.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by CatfishBilly: 9:39am On Jul 14, 2017
spacetacular:
The answers you gave has answered your own question. THINK DEEP AND YOU WILL SEE THE ANSWER IN YOUR ANSWERS!
You really have a problem with Yes or No answers.
It's okay though.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by hopefulLandlord: 9:40am On Jul 14, 2017
spacetacular:
Laughable as expected. You still cannot see the ridiculousness in your question. This is absolutely proof of perception bias.
another sermon

the only laughable part is your inability to answer yes/no
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 9:41am On Jul 14, 2017
CatfishBilly:
You really have a problem with Yes or No answers.
It's okay though.
You already answered your own questions much better than any YES or NO could have done and if you applied some actual critical thinking you would see this. Go ahead and think.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by hopefulLandlord: 9:41am On Jul 14, 2017
CatfishBilly:
You really have a problem with Yes or No answers. It's okay though.
apparently
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