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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Nobody: 3:13pm On Jul 17, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
AltarBoy1 raised good questions and going on without facing reality is a remake of Ojukwu's mistakes. You do not get into any battle or business lying to yourself. Sooner or later it catches up.

The Igbos should face it. They need other regions to survive. Think critically before making noise. Nnamdi Kanu should also explain his economic plan for the region in case the Niger Delta want their own region.
The Niger Delta is HIS ECONOMIC PLAN. Igboland as it is is not economically viable as an independent state.

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by BiafraIShere(m): 3:29pm On Jul 17, 2017
Missayuba:


The question should also be: why are the teachers, lecturers, doctors, and laboratory technologists not in their states, why do they come down to the north?
Did you read what you wrote above before posting? If yes, did it not appear daft to you? Fyi, human nature is dynamic, people always tend to move to areas where there is less supply. Most states in the SS/SE already has a high density of qualified teachers, nurses, technocrats etc unlike the North that has a dearth of such people. Have you asked yourself why NYSC members are rarely used as bonafide staff in schools/institutions in the East unlike the North were they constitute a huge percentage of main staff? I served in the North (my secondary assignment was in a popular & respected government school) yet they had no geography teacher for several years & the principal was so happy when I offered to handle the subject for all the senior classes, over 500 students in all! North needs Igbos severely!
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by BiafraIShere(m): 3:43pm On Jul 17, 2017
pryme:


Op like I have always pointed out, there are non so blind like the ones that refuse to see.

I have read all the replies from the Igbos, non were able to engage you with meaningful conversation or a roadmap or even {facts} that BIAFRA will succeed.

This goes to show how Kanu is using the inherent psychology of the Ibo man of "dominating" to get their support.

Am from the South South, I don't give a flying fvck about Biafra, my only concern is if they fail we will have to be the ones to bail them out. I don't like the fact that ppl will be dragged into result of their stupidity.

History is about to repeat it's self.
Which LGA in the South South are you from please?
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Emerituz(m): 12:39am On Jul 19, 2017
Missayuba:


Is it not obvious that you are one person who has stayed in one part of Nigeria for a very long time and only speak base on stereotype? Check very well the only part of Nigeria you can come to, be accommodated with no ulterior motive is the north. That is why most of the people from the east are in the north. Go to eastern states and see the northerners living there on the streets and you think you have a point against my statement! I DONT THINK SO.
I quite agree with you

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Missayuba(f): 10:45pm On Jul 19, 2017
BiafraIShere:
Did you read what you wrote above before posting? If yes, did it not appear daft to you? Fyi, human nature is dynamic, people always tend to move to areas where there is less supply. Most states in the SS/SE already has a high density of qualified teachers, nurses, technocrats etc unlike the North that has a dearth of such people. Have you asked yourself why NYSC members are rarely used as bonafide staff in schools/institutions in the East unlike the North were they constitute a huge percentage of main staff? I served in the North (my secondary assignment was in a popular & respected government school) yet they had no geography teacher for several years & the principal was so happy when I offered to handle the subject for all the senior classes, over 500 students in all! North needs Igbos severely!

At first I thought you were sensible when I heard the word "daft" from you but then I realize the English is poor. Secondly, if you think the Igbo's are in the north because there is a short supply of "man power" in fields as mentioned by you then you do not even know how selfish, egoistic, poor and shallow minded these "Igbos" are. "The Igbo man" is afraid of his fellow Igbo man, tell me how you expect such a person to settle in the "Igbo land". I've spent well over 5years in Igbo land so there's nothing new about them you'll tell me compared to the barely spent one year you stayed in one part of north. What do the "Igbos" have to boast of rather than their self acclaimed stereotypical fame and intelligence. The Igbo's in the north are causing a very high level of unemployment to well educated trained northern Nigerians, take them from the north and see things happen. The Igbo man on the other hand need the so called, stereotyped "Hausa man" for virtually everything - from food too employment. In summed up words, what I'm trying to say is "STAY IN THE EAST AND GET IT".

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Missayuba(f): 11:13pm On Jul 19, 2017
sunnyb0b0:


First of all, a place where people are butchered at will can not he said to be hospitable. A place where you cannot practice your religion without let or hindrance. When I was in Yobe state, the place they allocated to RCCG that I buses to attend in Gadaka was located in the bush far from human inhabitation. A place where sharia is enforced even in some cases on non Muslims can't be said to be hospitable. I have been to 5 zones out of 6 in Nigeria so Iban speak with authority.

As for the Northerners you said live on the streets in the East, I have a question for you. If somebody decides not to rent a property but to live on the streets, how is that the Igbo man's business? Are Igbo men in the North given free accommodation? No. The pay rent for accommodation or buy land and build their own houses. If the Hausa man cannot do same in the East, that's his headache. He can even live in the gutter, that's his choice.

The number of Igbo killed on the North in crisis that have nothing to do with the Igbos is uncountable and yet you have the gut to say they accommodate the Igbos?

You speak with quite a level of intelligence but you stated and I quote "A place where you cannot practice your religion without let or hindrance. When I was in Yobe state, the place they allocated to RCCG that I buses to attend in Gadaka was located in the bush far from human inhabitation. place where you cannot practice your religion without let or hindrance. When I was in Yobe state, the place they allocated to RCCG that I buses to attend in Gadaka was located in the bush far from human inhabitation". For you to have picked only one part of the north to generalize for the other northern states make me see reasons to why you speak as you do.
Secondly, have you observed how many times in the east northerners are refused accommodation in the east because they are "ndi Hausa". Have you ever boarded a bus from the east coming down to the north and see how "ndi Igbo" treat the "ndi Hausa"? I'm sure you are in support of that too. The moment they notice you do not speak polished or refined English or that Hausa accent they begin to treat one as though one suffers from leprocy".
As much as you have stayed in the north, I'm glad you observed that it is not only igbos that are killed in the part of the north where you stayed. Also, it is worthy of note that the several attacks in the north is not only in the north.
I know deep within you you know the north is a place to be and as much as you try to deny it, the "ndi igbos" need the north to survive.
I SPEAK FROM THE NOT SO SENTIMENTAL PART OF MY HEART.
Don't be fooled by the interest of politics in the wealth of SS to think that SE has anything to offer "IPOB". Initially the same "Biafrans claimed the SS was not part of the Biafran Republic, suddenly, they begin to mention the SS as part of them. Look at the celebration of Biafra day last year from the Niger bridge down to anambra was where the celebration was taking place, people living not very far from there I'm Asaba, Delta state capital did not know what was going on except for the heavy hold up.
Be honest with yourselves the IPOB as well as the division of Nigeria is only a desire of the few who have seen room for their benefit and wish to take advantage of it.

I STILL STAND MY GROUND THAT THE SE HAS NOTHING ON THE NORTH WHEN IT COMES TO BEING ACCOMODATING.

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Missayuba(f): 11:16pm On Jul 19, 2017
Rich4god:
Restructuring I support, Biafra I don't support as at this moment. We don't have leaders that will be truthful to the development of Biafra.

So far this is the only truth that has been said with no sentiments

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by sunnyb0b0(m): 11:25pm On Jul 19, 2017
Missayuba:


You speak with quite a level of intelligence but you stated and I quote "A place where you cannot practice your religion without let or hindrance. When I was in Yobe state, the place they allocated to RCCG that I buses to attend in Gadaka was located in the bush far from human inhabitation. place where you cannot practice your religion without let or hindrance. When I was in Yobe state, the place they allocated to RCCG that I buses to attend in Gadaka was located in the bush far from human inhabitation". For you to have picked only one part of the north to generalize for the other northern states make me see reasons to why you speak as you do.
Secondly, have you observed how many times in the east northerners are refused accommodation in the east because they are "ndi Hausa". Have you ever boarded a bus from the east coming down to the north and see how "ndi Igbo" treat the "ndi Hausa"? I'm sure you are in support of that too. The moment they notice you do not speak polished or refined English or that Hausa accent they begin to treat one as though one suffers from leprocy".
As much as you have stayed in the north, I'm glad you observed that it is not only igbos that are killed in the part of the north where you stayed. Also, it is worthy of note that the several attacks in the north is not only in the north.
I know deep within you you know the north is a place to be and as much as you try to deny it, the "ndi igbos" need the north to survive.
I SPEAK FROM THE NOT SO SENTIMENTAL PART OF MY HEART.
Don't be fooled by the interest of politics in the wealth of SS to think that SE has anything to offer "IPOB". Initially the same "Biafrans claimed the SS was not part of the Biafran Republic, suddenly, they begin to mention the SS as part of them. Look at the celebration of Biafra day last year from the Niger bridge down to anambra was where the celebration was taking place, people living not very far from there I'm Asaba, Delta state capital did not know what was going on except for the heavy hold up.
Be honest with yourselves the IPOB as well as the division of Nigeria is only a desire of the few who have seen room for their benefit and wish to take advantage of it.

I STILL STAND MY GROUND THAT THE SE HAS NOTHING ON THE NORTH WHEN IT COMES TO BEING ACCOMODATING.

Let me make it simple; between the North and the South East, where is the probability of a stranger being killed higher? Your answer should put the question to rest.

The Igbos do not need the North to survive rather the North needs the Igbos to survive.
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Missayuba(f): 12:36am On Jul 20, 2017
sunnyb0b0:


Let me make it simple; between the North and the South East, where is the probability of a stranger being killed higher? Your answer should put the question to rest.

The Igbos do not need the North to survive rather the North needs the Igbos to survive.

Need I remind you of how people get killed and dumped in refuse bins in the SE Or how people get kidnapped and eventually killed or how people get robbed and put in helpless conditions in the SE within a journey of less than 30mins? The insugence in the north is not created by northerners. DO YOUR ASSIGNMENTS WELL.
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Dedetwo(m): 1:25am On Jul 20, 2017
AltarBoy1:
How do you intend to employ and feed all the Igbos that will return to SE once Biafra has been actualized? Wch among the 5 states in the east can survive without FG allocation. So, how will the state of Biafra employ and pay these people. Have it occurred to you guys that there are a lot of Igbo in the federal civil service. There are quite a number of Igbos working in other state govt outside the SE. Virtually every higher institution in the north have an Igbo man lecturing or working there, same with hospitals and some other institutions. These does not include the once who are into business.
It’s obvious that if we break, people from other region would not want us to still remain there. So, how do you intend to cater for the Igbo business owners that will return home? Have any of you ever gone to the major markets in the north. From Suleja to Wuse, to Sokoto, Kebbi, Kano, Funtua, Zaria, Kaduna… All these states have a very large population of Igbos doing business there. How do u intend to take care of them or provide alternative means for them?

When Nigeria gained independence, did all Nigerians residing in UK, USA, France and Ghana returned to Nigeria? Why do you remotely think hostility when Biafra is mentioned? If Nigerians were civilized, Biafra will be actualized and not many people will notice.

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Dedetwo(m): 1:27am On Jul 20, 2017
AltarBoy1:
If you eventually break away with the current Biafran map, then south Sudan will repeat itself in the SE. And the two factions will be Igbos on one side, then the other tribes on the other. The Igbos with their dominance and “developing” nature will dominate everywhere in Biafra, and this won’t go down well with other tribes. We all know what this could result into. Just like the case in Bayelsa. Except you are trying to break away with just the 5 eastern states, which to me is a suicide mission.

Are you a God to know what will happen in Biafra? I am wondering why you are still poor if you can fathom tomorrow.
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Dedetwo(m): 1:30am On Jul 20, 2017
AltarBoy1:
Will there even be any change. I think the real enemy to the Igbo race is their leaders. The keep shouting marginalization while their leaders keeps mum and enjoy the wealth of the nation. Why can’t they hold their leaders accountable? I have been to most states in the north, and it’s surprising to see states like Katsina, Jigawa, Dutse, Gombe and co with full functioning international airport mostly used during hajj. These airports where built using state funds. How come SE leaders can’t build such, despite the fact that the Igbos are the ones that travel the most in Nigeria? Even with the little allocation some northern states receive from FG, they have been able to build and develop their states. How come the SE and SS leaders couldn’t do same? Imagine the huge allocation of Bayelsa, despite its small size, there is nothing to write home abt it. Take a look at Delta State, same can be said. Its only Akwa Ibom and Cross River that I can give a pass mark.

It is safe say that you are one of those Nigerians who think he/she knows everything yet knew apparently nothing.
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Dedetwo(m): 1:35am On Jul 20, 2017
AltarBoy1:
Have you asked yourself why there is no much foreign company in SE apart from NB plc? How come multinationals don’t invest in SE. Check out the number of company in SW n NW. What is the SE lacking? How come, most Igbos prefers to invest and build huge houses outside of SE? How come there is a massive emigration of Igbos from the SE than there are immigration from other regions? Someone once said that the number of rich Igbos leaving outside the SE are much more than the number leaving in SE. What is it that is chasing people out of SE?

Do you think body on earth thinks idiotically like Nigerians? There is no functional seaport or international airport in SE. The policies of Nigerian government are apparently to stymied any economic progress in SE. I guess you studied elementary economics and must have read that government policies are determining factors in location of industries.

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Dedetwo(m): 1:37am On Jul 20, 2017
AltarBoy1:
I have so many things in mind, but let me pause for now. I know that some people will leave the content of my post and start to attack me, calling me afonja. It doesn’t change the fact that am a full blooded Igbo. And I want to believe that those agitating for breakup have not really traveled to other regions to see what the SE is lacking and to see how the Igbos are in every corner of Nigeria.

You are a complete Afonja if you think that defunct western region of Nigeria amounts to anything without Lagos.

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by jacyhelen(f): 2:42am On Jul 20, 2017
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AltarBoy1:
Just as I noted, u wont respond to my post, but will prefer to call me an afonja.
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did he call you afonja now? see how u are now leing,so oduduwa is now afonja??
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by sunnyb0b0(m): 5:38am On Jul 20, 2017
Missayuba:


Need I remind you of how people get killed and dumped in refuse bins in the SE Or how people get kidnapped and eventually killed or how people get robbed and put in helpless conditions in the SE within a journey of less than 30mins? The insugence in the north is not created by northerners. DO YOUR ASSIGNMENTS WELL.

Keyword: STRANGER
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by sunnyb0b0(m): 5:42am On Jul 20, 2017
Missayuba:


Need I remind you of how people get killed and dumped in refuse bins in the SE Or how people get kidnapped and eventually killed or how people get robbed and put in helpless conditions in the SE within a journey of less than 30mins? The insugence in the north is not created by northerners. DO YOUR ASSIGNMENTS WELL.

I'll keep hitting you with evidence:

UK travrl advice on www.gov.uk

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/nigeria

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by sunnyb0b0(m): 5:45am On Jul 20, 2017
Missayuba:


Need I remind you of how people get killed and dumped in refuse bins in the SE Or how people get kidnapped and eventually killed or how people get robbed and put in helpless conditions in the SE within a journey of less than 30mins? The insugence in the north is not created by northerners. DO YOUR ASSIGNMENTS WELL.

US travel warning;

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/nigeria-travel-warning.html

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Rich4god(m): 8:07am On Jul 20, 2017
Missayuba:


So far this is the only truth that has been said with no sentiments
Truth be told, the way Nigeria is now, we cannot grow. Too much lawlessness and insecurity. So am all out for restructuring. When you begin to imagine the way our leaders down south mismanage funds, you will know that Biafra might be worse than Nigeria when it's actualized. And one mistake the the Biafrans will make is ceding with only the five Eastern states.
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Rich4god(m): 8:42am On Jul 20, 2017
sunnyb0b0:


Let me make it simple; between the North and the South East, where is the probability of a stranger being killed higher? Your answer should put the question to rest.

The Igbos do not need the North to survive rather the North needs the Igbos to survive.
Guy, be truthful... If you mind your business in the north and not trespass on their religion, you are more safe in the north than the East, removing Boko Haram. There are a huge number of foreigners in the Kano state alone doing normal business of buying and selling than there are in the entire south east combined.
Crimes in the East are on the high side when compared to the north, this is a fact that everyone knows.
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Ubenedictus(m): 9:05am On Jul 20, 2017
Rich4god:
Guy, be truthful... If you mind your business in the north and not trespass on their religion, you are more safe in the north than the East, removing Boko Haram. There are a huge number of foreigners in the Kano state alone doing normal business of buying and selling than there are in the entire south east combined.
Crimes in the East are on the high side when compared to the north, this is a fact that everyone knows.
are you serious?
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by sunnyb0b0(m): 9:14am On Jul 20, 2017
Rich4god:
Guy, be truthful... If you mind your business in the north and not trespass on their religion, you are more safe in the north than the East, removing Boko Haram. There are a huge number of foreigners in the Kano state alone doing normal business of buying and selling than there are in the entire south east combined.
Crimes in the East are on the high side when compared to the north, this is a fact that everyone knows.

So Bridget Agbahime, Aikfavour Ukeoma, Eunice Elisha and Obinna Okpokiri trespassed their religion? Please tell me how they did.

Mention just one name, just one of a stranger killed or molested in the SE.

The problem with you lot is that you sit down in the comfort of your homes and make spurious claims with no evidential data to back it up. Which crimes are you talking of in the South East?

The North is home to the 1st and 4th most deadly terror groups in the world for crying out loud. Even mynd1 knows this to be true

Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by sunnyb0b0(m): 10:33am On Jul 20, 2017
sunnyb0b0:


So Bridget Agbahime, Aikfavour Ukeoma, Eunice Elisha and Obinna Okpokiri trespassed their religion? Please tell me how they did.

Mention just one name, just one of a stranger killed or molested in the SE.

The problem with you lot is that you sit down in the comfort of your homes and make spurious claims with no evidential data to back it up. Which crimes are you talking of in the South East?

The North is home to the 1st and 4th most deadly terror groups in the world for crying out loud. Even mynd1 knows this to be true

Rich4god, I'm still waiting for your response.
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Rich4god(m): 4:01pm On Jul 20, 2017
Ubenedictus:
are you serious?
Ayam serious...

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Rich4god(m): 4:08pm On Jul 20, 2017
sunnyb0b0:


So Bridget Agbahime, Aikfavour Ukeoma, Eunice Elisha and Obinna Okpokiri trespassed their religion? Please tell me how they did.

Mention just one name, just one of a stranger killed or molested in the SE.

The problem with you lot is that you sit down in the comfort of your homes and make spurious claims with no evidential data to back it up. Which crimes are you talking of in the South East?

The North is home to the 1st and 4th most deadly terror groups in the world for crying out loud. Even mynd1 knows this to be true
Check my post, am not talking abt been hostile to strangers. Am talking abt the average security of the state. When you out in place, armed robbery, kidnapping and other vices. It's cos of the relative security in the state that's why it's has a large number of foreigners. Even zamfara and Sokoto that tend to be governed by Sharia law still have a large number of non indigene and they leave of well.

I know very well that in the East, no one comes out to start looking for a stranger to kill as the north does in the name of religion, but an average human being is more safe in the north than south, even when you remove Boko Haram and militancy from both region.
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Missayuba(f): 5:51pm On Jul 20, 2017

Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Missayuba(f): 5:56pm On Jul 20, 2017
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I'll keep hitting you with evidence:

And I'm not shaken

Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Warship: 5:57pm On Jul 20, 2017
Rich4god:
Truth be told, the way Nigeria is now, we cannot grow. Too much lawlessness and insecurity. So am all out for restructuring. When you begin to imagine the way our leaders down south mismanage funds, you will know that Biafra might be worse than Nigeria when it's actualized. And one mistake the the Biafrans will make is ceding with only the five Eastern states.


You think men like OkoroAwusa or Orji will have a field day in Biafra


You must be joking
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Missayuba(f): 5:58pm On Jul 20, 2017
sunnyb0b0:


Rich4god, I'm still waiting for your response.

Don't divert the issue to number of deaths in regions.

Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by Warship: 5:59pm On Jul 20, 2017
Rich4god:

Check my post, am not talking abt been hostile to strangers. Am talking abt the average security of the state. When you out in place, armed robbery, kidnapping and other vices. It's cos of the relative security in the state that's why it's has a large number of foreigners. Even zamfara and Sokoto that tend to be governed by Sharia law still have a large number of non indigene and they leave of well.

I know very well that in the East, no one comes out to start looking for a stranger to kill as the north does in the name of religion, but an average human being is more safe in the north than south, even when you remove Boko Haram and militancy from both region.


Do you learn upside down


The safest region is the South and the Eastern part of the South in particular.
Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by sunnyb0b0(m): 6:13pm On Jul 20, 2017
Missayuba:


Don't divert the issue to number of deaths in regions.

Lol. That's bullcrap, load of bullcrap.

Fact is that rice imported from Thailand is cheaper than rice from anywhere in Nigeria. Beef imported from Argentina is cheaper than beef produced in Nigeria. Yam imported from Ghana ia cheaper than yam anywhere in Nigeria. Tomatoes imported from Cameron is cheaper than tomatoes grown in Nigeria.

What am I saying in essence? Whoever holds the cash is king. The food the North brings down south is paid for by the consumers and not free. If the North decides not to bring their agricultural products down south, their farmers will be the ones to suffer, the south with their money can import from any other country the so wish. Like I pointed out above, most agricultural products are cheaper imported from outside Nigeria but are protected by Nigeria government either banning their importation or imposing heavy tariff.

So, the claim that the North feeds Nigeria is hogwash as people pay for their agricultural products but the North receives oil money for free. Try another spin abokai na.

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Re: Before You Blindly Support IPOB by sunnyb0b0(m): 6:15pm On Jul 20, 2017
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