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Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 11:56pm On Jul 31, 2017
I am starting to understand why History is not taught in nigerian schools, it is because they want you guys to be compliant slaves.
You shall not know your past so that you shall never free yourselves from bondage.
This reminds me of the planet of the apes.
The one thing the apes refused to allow humans to know was the past of the humans, that was a necessity to keep the humans in bondage.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Obalende: 11:59pm On Jul 31, 2017
history2903:
I am starting to understand why History is not taught in nigerian schools, it is because they want you guys to be compliant slaves.
You shall not know your past so that you shall free yourselves from bondage.
This reminds me of the planet of the apes.
The one thing the apes refused to allow humans to know was the past of the humans, that was a necessity to keep the humans in bondage.
You have not made any statement of fact here just mere sentiment that is ego driven
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Obalende: 12:01am On Aug 01, 2017
Chikpat:
Inferiority Complex

Low Self Esteem

Slave Mentality

Similarly, u must go back to your mother's womb through the same path u came to life to be born again.
Your mother begat an imb3cile and a vagabond. You must go back to your mother's womb you will rot there together with your mother and both of you will be food to the serpents of the forest after which both of you will be tormented in the bottomless pit day and night forever.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 12:03am On Aug 01, 2017
Obalende:

Other colonized countries hv risen up to great things while Nigeria keeps reminiscent about Egyptian pyramids and benin empires. They were explorers not invaders. Nigerians are free to explore Britain as thousands continue to do up to this day.
I think you do not understand my statement and I also think you do not understand history:

1) The only thing which ended the Benin empire was the british military invasion in 1897
2) You clearly lack the intelligence to differentiate european explorers with british military personnel invading and sacking a souvereign country (the Benin empire)
3) You seem to not understand that I am stating that nigeria is a british artificial country built by annexing other pre-existing countries.
It make no sense to state that "nigeria was colonized by the british", no, nigeria was created by the british and I want out, I want the country of my ancestors back again. You can go to brazil and beg them to make you their slave again, I want the country of my ancestors (Benin empire) back.

Please read some books...
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 12:03am On Aug 01, 2017
I like this @ OP, the truth is that we need help. This pattern is not working ad we need to ask serious questions
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Obalende: 12:07am On Aug 01, 2017
history2903:

I think you do not understand my statement and I also think you do not understand history:

1) The only thing which ended the Benin empire was the british military invasion in 1897
2) You clearly lack the intelligence to differentiate european explorers with british military personnel invading and sacking a souvereign country (the Benin empire)
3) You seem to not understand that I am stating that nigeria is a british artificial country built by annexing other pre-existing countries.
It make no sense to state that "nigeria was colonized by the british", no, nigeria was created by the british and I want out, I want the country of my ancestors back again. You can go to brazil and beg them to make you their slave again, I want the country of my ancestors (Benin empire) back.

Please read some books...

Yes I admit I need to read some history books. Perhaps my history is lacking. This next question is a serious one. No time to waste. Please which good history books can I read (honest question).
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 12:07am On Aug 01, 2017
Obalende:

just mere sentiment that is ego driven
I think you should stop trying to read people's minds, you are not a wizzard nor are you a psychiatrist, therefor you are only deluding yourself.
A rational thinker, who is not a psychiatrist, reads only the logics of people's statements.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Obalende: 12:10am On Aug 01, 2017
history2903:

I think you should stop trying to read people's minds, you are not a wizzard nor are you a psychiatrist, therefor you are only deluding yourself.
A rational thinker, who is not a psychiatrist, reads only the logics of people's statements.
Yes true.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Pharaoh9(m): 12:11am On Aug 01, 2017
Obalende:


Nigeria in its current state since 1960 has not been able to successfully execute one nation wide capital project!

What I am proposing is neo colonialism working together with Uk as returning colonial masters, China and the world bank; while Nigeria of course retains sovereignty. A country can be taught/colonized with its sovereignty in tact.

Nigerian Government revenue will be managed from Great Britain.

Resource and development contracts will be signed.

China would be in charge of the infrastructure projects.

G8 resources will start to follow Nigeria.

Nigerians on ground would start to be shamed for their bad citizenship and encouraged to become good citizens. Psychiatric evaluation for all drivers and compulsory driver education.

Nigeria can be a changed country in 2 yrs or less.

Only Lagos is transforming rapidly because most residents hv bn out at least to ECOWAS and are demanding development.

So either way we need foreign influence



We can do all these for ourselves if we invest in science and research, keep religion and tribalism aside,
the core Northern Nigeria and our population is also a problem, Nigeria needs birth control, majority of Nigerians are dumbbers
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 12:16am On Aug 01, 2017
Obalende:


Yes I admit I need to read some history books. Perhaps my history is lacking. This next question is a serious one. No time to waste. Please which good history books can I read (honest question).
The first thing to do is to learn the meaning of the word "history".
There are many books who are claimed to be "history books" by their authors but are actually just a collection of propaganda.
Learning the meaning of the word history will guide your research.
You don't learn history from "history books", you learn it from your research of historical monuments and historical documents.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 12:21am On Aug 01, 2017
Pharaoh9:



We can do all these for ourselves if we invest in science and research, keep religion and tribalism aside,
the core Northern Nigeria and our population is also a problem, Nigeria needs birth control, majority of Nigerians are numbers
It is madness to keep repeating a process which keeps failing.
I don't see how you are going to make fulani herdsment stop their killings and rapes. That is their culture. That is their life style.
We are different peoples with different cultures and lifestyles. Nobody is going to give up his lifestyle for someone else.
The british are gone, lets their borders go away with them.
Let us return to the borders our ancestors gave their lives to protect.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by RisingSun1: 12:37am On Aug 01, 2017
I think you rushed to proffer solution without identifying the Nigeria problems first by telling us that the Caucasian race is the solution.

Outline the problems first before solution.

I think one of major problem of Nigeria is the SIZE.

For instance,if Nigeria can't provide 24hrs electricity in just one state out of 36 after 57yrs of independence,that means in the next 200yrs nationwide steady power supply in 36 states may still be elusive.

Most African countries with little size are enjoying steady power today. The newest to join the list is Rwanda. Was it British rule that did it for them?

I think SIZE played a major role. With little size administration and management can be made easy. No African country is advanced enough to properly handle bigger population like China or the USA.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Obalende: 12:50am On Aug 01, 2017
RisingSun1:
I think you rushed to proffer solution without identifying the Nigeria problems first by telling us that the Caucasian race is the solution.

Outline the problems first before solution.

I think one of major problem of Nigeria is the SIZE.

For instance,if Nigeria can't provide 24hrs electricity in just one state out of 36 after 57yrs of independence,that means in the next 200yrs nationwide steady power supply in 36 states may still be elusive.

Most African countries with little size are enjoying steady power today. The newest to join the list is Rwanda. Was it British rule that did it for them?

I think SIZE played a major role. With little size administration and management can be made easy. No African country is advanced enough to properly handle bigger population like China or the USA.
Very good point about size but that is why there is Local Government Areas... that was the whole idea - the size can be managed by each local government area... each LGA could even hv its own police division --- why aren't they thinking of all these We have a large population instead of them to use it for good they use it for yahoo yahoo and blame the govt.

I did not say the Caucasian race is the solution. I said British nationals (including Nigerian British) - it is the culture that they bring to the table not skin color... I already said what those were: honesty (ur worker is in Ibadan and tells you he is in lagos), punctuality (come today come tomorrow, sluggish, unnecessary waste of time) and responsibility (blame govt and spirits; form cults, kidnap). this is why any small thing, politicians will resign... how many politicians hv resigned in Nigeria? I just typed 'resigns' in Google and checked news - a govt official just resigned in Japan over a defense issue - this is responsibility!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/27/asia/tomomi-inada-japan-defense-minister/index.html

Note the number of Nigerians that have been arraigned in UK in recent times for fraud, misleading people etc... they get stiff sentences - this is due to cultural incompatibility - those naija guys that went there thought they were still in Nigeria... and that lieing to the government or to ppl was not a serious offence... its the culture...
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 1:09am On Aug 01, 2017
Obalende:

Very good point about size but that is why there is Local Government Areas... that was the whole idea - the size can be managed by each local government area... each LGA could even hv its own police force --- why aren't they thinking of all these We have a large population instead of them to use it for good they use it for yahoo yahoo and blame the govt.

I did not say the Caucasian race is the solution. I said British nationals (including Nigerian British) - it is the culture that they bring to the table not skin color... I already said what those were: honesty (ur boss is in Ibadan and tells you he is in lagos), punctuality (come today come tomorrow, sluggist, unnecessary waste of time) and responsibility (blame govt and spirits; form cults, kidnap). this is why any small thing, politicians will resign... how many politicians hv resigned in Nigeria?
Let me explain nigeria to you: nigeria is not a country and we all know it, although whenever a tribe or an alliance of tribes have their man in power, those tribes will staart shouting "one nigeria or death", the minute they are not in power their "patriotism" dies as well.
Nigeria is a little bit like game of thrones: several noble houses fighting not to move the union into higher developpement but to subdue each other and to capture each other's wealth.
Britain is not an artificial country it is still using its own indigenous institutions which have been around for thousnads of years and have grown in strenght. In britain the law actually means something and even a prime minister can go to prison for comitting a felony. The solution to your "nigerian problem" seems very simple : go back to your precolonial countries which have thousands of years of history.
british people are not more honnest in any stretch of the imagination, but they do have a fonctional country with strong institutions and laws and order because they have a real country, not an artificial one.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by decomaniaboss(f): 1:12am On Aug 01, 2017
jaksmillioniar:
biafra will neva come to pass mark my word
and you will forever be a poor man mark my words!!!
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by ApexPredator: 1:20am On Aug 01, 2017
Slave mentality. grin
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Obalende: 1:22am On Aug 01, 2017
from the same link - a Japanese minister resigning few days ago:

"I am strongly aware of my responsibility as defense minister to supervise Ministry of Defense and Self Defence Force. I would like to return my one-month salary and decided to resign from defense minister," she said at a news conference Friday morning.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/27/asia/tomomi-inada-japan-defense-minister/

Why is it that since 1960 till today - no leader has been able to do this

This is responsibility!
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 1:25am On Aug 01, 2017
Obalende:
from the same link - a Japanese minister resigning few days ago:

"I am strongly aware of my responsibility as defense minister to supervise Ministry of Defense and Self Defence Force. I would like to return my one-month salary and decided to resign from defense minister," she said at a news conference Friday morning.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/27/asia/tomomi-inada-japan-defense-minister/

Why is it that since 1960 till today - no leader has been able to do this

This is responsibility!
I already answered your question. If you like just keep asking the same question while ignoring the obvious answer.
You act like one of those students who asks the teacher a question, the teacher answers and then the student asks the question again and again and again... In the classroom that would get you expelled.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Obalende: 1:30am On Aug 01, 2017
history2903:

Let me explain nigeria to you: nigeria is not a country and we all know it, although whenever a tribe or an alliance of tribes have their man in power, those tribes will staart shouting "one nigeria or death", the minute they are not in power their "patriotism" dies as well.
Nigeria is a little bit like game of thrones: several noble houses fighting not to move the union into higher developpement but to subdue each other and to capture each other's wealth.
Britain is not an artificial country it is still using its own indigenous institutions which have been around for thousnads of years and have grown in strenght. In britain the law actually means something and even a prime minister can go to prison for comitting a felony. The solution to your "nigerian problem" seems very simple : go back to your precolonial countries which have thousands of years of history.
british people are not more honnest in any stretch of the imagination, but they do have a fonctional country with strong institutions and laws and order because they have a real country, not an artificial one.
this is a good thought but they are certainly more honest - Nigerians are liars any attempt to argue over this one is just a refusal to humbly accept the truth... Nigerians are chronic liars and lieing is ingrained in the culture - british culture is more honest and lying is frowned upon.

you make a good arguments about country artificiality.... Canada is an artificial country made up of immigrants yet its functional so I do not see this as a strong point. the original Canadians are aborigines - as we speak the Canadian minister for immigration is a former Somali refugee...
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 1:39am On Aug 01, 2017
Obalende:

this is a good thought but they are certainly more honest - Nigerians are liars any attempt to argue over this one is just a refusal to humbly accept the truth... Nigerians are chronic liars and lieing is ingrained in the culture - british culture is more honest and lying is frowned upon.

you make a good arguments about country artificiality.... Canada is an artificial country made up of immigrants yet its functional so I do not see this as a strong point.
How can a person confuse canada with nigeria ?
I am not an expert in canadian history, but it seems to me that canada was built in the same manner as the usa: it was a complete takeover of the lands of the indegenous people. And that take over was done by britain. The migrants were from numerous european countries (mostly england) but they all swore loyalty to the king or queen of england and they migrated with the understanding that the land was a mere new part of england. Up to today the queen of england is also the queen of canada. So in essence canada is an extension of britain. Canada is a real country eventhough it was built by a great injustice.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by ATERI(m): 1:48am On Aug 01, 2017
OP, are you here on behalf of the British, just like one or two moderators?

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Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Pharaoh9(m): 1:49am On Aug 01, 2017
Shaytun:


Like i keep telling you, Nigeria was not better under the british rule, majority of Nigerians under brotih rule were illiterate, poverty was rampant, the white only developed a small part of lagos where they reside the rest of the country was bush.

ABUJA Was a Wasteland.

Porthacourt Was Bushland.

Even China was under Japan

UYO WAS BUSHLAND.

Abeokuta was Bushland.

The was no major economic activites going on except for those involved on shipping our resource out of Nigeria.


98% of Nigerians under British rule never saw a bulb not to talk of electricity in their life.

Japan an advanced country in asia once colonized korea, Go and ask the koreans whether it was a joyfull experience.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Obalende: 1:50am On Aug 01, 2017
history2903:

How can a person confuse canada with nigeria ?
I am not an expert in canadian history, but it seems to me that canada was built in the same manner as the usa: it was a complete takeover of the lands of the indegenous people. And that take over was done by britain. The migrants were from numerous european countries but they all swore loyalty to the king or queen of england. [b]Up to today the queen of england is also the queen of canada. So in essence canada is an extension of britain. [/b]Canada is a real country eventhough it was built by a great injustice.

Interesting...
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by RisingSun1: 1:51am On Aug 01, 2017
Obalende:

Very good point about size but that is why there is Local Government Areas... that was the whole idea - the size can be managed by each local government area... each LGA could even hv its own police division --- why aren't they thinking of all these We have a large population instead of them to use it for good they use it for yahoo yahoo and blame the govt.

I did not say the Caucasian race is the solution. I said British nationals (including Nigerian British) - it is the culture that they bring to the table not skin color... I already said what those were: honesty (ur worker is in Ibadan and tells you he is in lagos), punctuality (come today come tomorrow, sluggish, unnecessary waste of time) and responsibility (blame govt and spirits; form cults, kidnap). this is why any small thing, politicians will resign... how many politicians hv resigned in Nigeria? I just typed 'resigns' in Google and checked news - a govt official just resigned in Japan over a defense issue - this is responsibility!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/27/asia/tomomi-inada-japan-defense-minister/index.html

Note the number of Nigerians that have been arraigned in UK in recent times for fraud, misleading people etc... they get stiff sentences - this is due to cultural incompatibility - those naija guys that went there thought they were still in Nigeria... and that lieing to the government or to ppl was not a serious offence... its the culture...

You mentioned Local govt? Are u aware that LGAs in Nigeria are not allowed to build Power plant or construct or repair Federal roads that crossed their area even if they have the money? Any power generated at state or local level will have to be sent to national grid.

Your proposal will be counterproductive because inviting Britain to re-colonize us means to approve Britain to plunder our land.They can't come here without satisfying their interest. In fact your preferred country Britain is notorious worldwide for looting and plundering.

Lastly another problem will be after u are done with Britain getting them to leave won't be that easy.Remember the Scots,the voluntary joined Britain now it's proving difficult to leave the Union. The English don't want to leave them anymore. The Scots are stocked
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 1:54am On Aug 01, 2017
Obalende:


and this is exactly wat I ask for Nigeria... lets be ruled by the Queen - we will become great like Bermuda... or Japan - all the royal countries ruled by the Queen are great!
I think you have concentration problems.
We are not migrants (except the brazilian slaves). This is our ancestral lands. We are not europeans moving into a new land conquered by britain as british subjects. We had our own countries which were invaded by britain and which were rubbed by britain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh2Tac1gNPU
I just hope that you know that what you are asking for is that the british do to us what they did to the american indians and the aborigens of australia.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Pharaoh9(m): 1:56am On Aug 01, 2017
Foxflames:
Lol..I support.I mean if we can higher foreign coaches and expatriates. Then why can't we hire the British to teach us about good governance?


Our leaders are the ones cheating us, when they want better stuffs they hire foreigners, send their children to foreign school, employ foreign doctors etc

It's high time we hire foreign leaders
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Obalende: 1:58am On Aug 01, 2017
RisingSun1:


You mentioned Local govt? Are u aware that LGAs in Nigeria are not allowed to build Power plant or construct or repair Federal roads that crossed their area even if they have the money? Any power generated at state or local level will have to be sent to national grid.

Your proposal will be counterproductive because inviting Britain to re-colonize us means to approve Britain to plunder our land.They can't come here without satisfying their interest. In fact your preferred country Britain is notorious worldwide for looting and plundering.

Lastly another problem will be after u are done with Britain getting them to leave won't be that easy.Remember the Scots,the voluntary joined Britain now it's proving difficult to leave the Union. The English don't want to leave them anymore. The Scots are stocked

Good points
Britain GDP is 2.619 trillion USD (2016)
Nigeria GDP 405.1 billion USD (2016)

What will they loot that Nigerians will not loot? At least they hv a sense of responsibility dat is lacking in Nigeria.... there is no motive for them to loot anything - there will be a sharing formula...
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Obalende: 2:00am On Aug 01, 2017
Pharaoh9:


Our leaders are the ones cheating us, when they want better stuffs they hire foreigners, send their children to foreign school, employ foreign doctors etc

It's high time we hire foreign leaders

Exactly! Bermuda Government is doing well. We can hire from there if Nigerians want someone with black skin color though I don't care about skin color.

But Nigerians also cheat themselves! Through causing accidents thru one way driving, having fake ids, conspiring to steal, etc all these things make Nigeria bad so I would split the blame 50% Nigeria Government, 50% people... the people need a change of mentality too.... I say this with all due respect...
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 2:04am On Aug 01, 2017
Obalende:


Good points
Britain GDP is 2.619 trillion USD (2016)
Nigeria GDP 405.1 billion USD (2016)

What will they loot that Nigerians will not loot? At least they hv a sense of responsibility dat is lacking in Nigeria.... there is no motive for them to loot anything - there will be a sharing formula...
If I have 1 million dollars in my account and you have 10000 dollars in your wallet, would you trust me with your wallet ?
Why are you so eager to accept slavery rather than advocating for true independence: the return to our precolonial borders ?
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Pharaoh9(m): 2:04am On Aug 01, 2017
Obalende:


It bruises their egos to admit a humble truth. Go to Ibeju Lekki. The Chinese hv already erected factories there and Indians. ... give the Chinese more leeway they will take over while the Nigerian wallows in Mr ojo is not around come tomorrow.

The British didn't loot anything. They hv apologized for any colonial time wrongs. The heart of the British is not as bad as that of Sani Abacha as far as looting goes. Why do they need to loot Nigeria when they already great?!

Lemme tell u they are explorers. Even while I was there years back they were always going on Africa missions in remote villages something the average Nigerian won't do while they await their ritual money.

All u guys hv come and given is excuses with someone calling for no further replies.

Let me advise that person to rush to mountain of Fire for dat demon of pride to be cleansed.

Anyway I hv no stakes it's a zoo.


British didn't loot up to 0.0000001% of what what our leaders have been looted out of the country. our leaders still loot our resources to Europe today.
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Nobody: 2:07am On Aug 01, 2017
"yoruba" mentality, even "uncle tom" would be saying "what the fvck ?"
I guess some people's culture is slavery and love for bondage, the love of being someone's bitchhhh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMe8-AjHWsY
Re: Britain Must Be Called Back To Rule Nigeria by Obalende: 2:11am On Aug 01, 2017
history2903:
"yoruba" mentality, even "uncle tom" would be saying "what the fvck ?"
I guess some people's culture is slavery and love for bondage, the love of being someone's bitchhhh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMe8-AjHWsY

No its seeking the best... and aligning with the best... to better oneself... just as companies only go for the very best/ cream of the crop wen they hiring.... and just as Nigerians emigrating far and wide are seeking the best since the best was not found in Nigeria for many ppl...

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