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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 10:11am On Aug 02, 2017
tunene66:



There was a guy who had a TREASURY BILL WORKSHEET sent to the group. However if you send me your email I can send it to you

Thanks. Events have overtaken this a a simple and straight formula has been provided by someone here.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by tunene66: 10:47am On Aug 02, 2017
NL1960:


Thanks. Events have overtaken this a a simple and straight formula has been provided by someone here.

OK
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by walexlo78: 11:04am On Aug 02, 2017
Hi TONY56,

I totally understand, I am also not a novice in this game but only pass on comments once in a while. I play this TB game and really hard.

To do the compounded interest game based in my own scenario is to have 1M + other fees/commissions in your account while you put compounded face value of 1.216M on your application form, by so doing after the debit, no fund will remain idle in your account. The benefit of this is for investor who does not want the upfront interest to remain in the account after the bid and strategically you already invest the upfront interest before you earn it.

The scenario you gave is different and will work if you have extra fund to match the face value on the form which you won't be using till after the bid cycle.

My explained scenario will make a lot of sense when you look at high investment, example of 20m. At 18%, that's 3.6 meaning with your scenario you need to have 23.6 in your account. With my own scenario, you need to have only N20M plus the fees in your account but the 23.6 on the form. To do this with your scenario, you will need to also have the 3.6 in your account.

My scenario is what I have always done with GTB before like I mentioned in another post. I hope I make some sense.



TONY56:



It's like you don't really understand what many of us have been explaining about how to compound your interest with Stanbic.

What we have been explaining is that Stanbic does not allow compounding of interest but you can do your simple arithmetic of what you want yourself and be sure that you have up to the face value of what you will get at the end of your tenor in your account so that when you will be debited, it will only be the discounted amount.

A good example is that of someone who wants to compound his interests on investment of 1,000,000 with the assumption of 18%. After doing his own calculations on compounding, he arrives at N1,220,000 to be collected at the end of the tenor. So, at Stanbic what he needs to do is to leave at least N1,220,000 face value in his account and write same amount on his form for the investment instead of N1,000,000 but when he is to be debited, Stanbic will debit ONLY N1,000,000 and at the end of 364days, he will be credited with N1,220,000 instead of N1,000,000.

I hope this explains it all to you?.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 1:21pm On Aug 02, 2017
Hello house i want you guys to advice me on this that have been bothering me. I have wanted to invest in TB since this year but i have a kind of fear that made me start to contemplate. I am a type that likes to invest all in one and so like to be careful not to lose at the end. What bothers me is the Biafran Agitation issues and now my question is, if anyhow Biafra separates can the Nigerian government decide not to refund my money?

This have really left me with thoughts of using the money to buy land. Please i need professional advice from the house
Note: No tribalism here
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Mascotlawman: 1:41pm On Aug 02, 2017
[quote author=Mascotlawman post=59057330]Please house, I have been using Gtb, but from everything I read here, I just want to know the percentage difference between FBN and Stanbic in the primary market. I wish to go for either of the two. Ur advice will really be helpful. God bless [/quote


Somebody should please help a brother before I make any mistakes. Really want to try a different bank, as I have been using Gtb.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 3:06pm On Aug 02, 2017
unite4real:


you really dont need all these computation to infinity. Just apply this simple formular and you are done with your outcome, once.

(Principal x 100)/(100 - interest or bid rate)

To me, I don't need those computations BUT w.e are not equally gifted about mathematical calculations, hence
the need to come down to some people's level and I bet you that so many on this forum appreciate this method that you refer to as "Computation to infinity" than your "Simple formula".

More over, the "Computation to infinity" you're referring to was'nt initiated by me. I merely made an observed correction of it.

Because you are good in Mathematics does not imply that others must be so good in it
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 3:16pm On Aug 02, 2017
walexlo78:
Hi TONY56,

I totally understand, I am also not a novice in this game but only pass on comments once in a while. I play this TB game and really hard.

To do the compounded interest game based in my own scenario is to have 1M + other fees/commissions in your account while you put compounded face value of 1.216M on your application form, by so doing after the debit, no fund will remain idle in your account. The benefit of this is for investor who does not want the upfront interest to remain in the account after the bid and strategically you already invest the upfront interest before you earn it.

The scenario you gave is different and will work if you have extra fund to match the face value on the form which you won't be using till after the bid cycle.

My explained scenario will make a lot of sense when you look at high investment, example of 20m. At 18%, that's 3.6 meaning with your scenario you need to have 23.6 in your account. With my own scenario, you need to have only N20M plus the fees in your account but the 23.6 on the form. To do this with your scenario, you will need to also have the 3.6 in your account.

My scenario is what I have always done with GTB before like I mentioned in another post. I hope I make some sense.





Oh yes. Very well understood
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 3:20pm On Aug 02, 2017
okochaik:
Hello house i want you guys to advice me on this that have been bothering me. I have wanted to invest in TB since this year but i have a kind of fear that made me start to contemplate. I am a type that likes to invest all in one and so like to be careful not to lose at the end. What bothers me is the Biafran Agitation issues and now my question is, if anyhow Biafra separates can the Nigerian government decide not to refund my money?

This have really left me with thoughts of using the money to buy land. Please i need professional advice from the house
Note: No tribalism here

Me think that you MAY only lose if you go with Biafra in the scenario you painted since it would mean that it's Biafra that's leaving Nigeria and not Nigeria leaving Biafra.

That's just my thought!!!
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 3:24pm On Aug 02, 2017
okochaik:
Hello house i want you guys to advice me on this that have been bothering me. I have wanted to invest in TB since this year but i have a kind of fear that made me start to contemplate. I am a type that likes to invest all in one and so like to be careful not to lose at the end. What bothers me is the Biafran Agitation issues and now my question is, if anyhow Biafra separates can the Nigerian government decide not to refund my money?

This have really left me with thoughts of using the money to buy land. Please i need professional advice from the house
Note: No tribalism here

Mind you, even foreigners can and do invest in Nigerian Treasury Bills. So I don't see your fears at all.

Better invest and go to sleep.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 4:08pm On Aug 02, 2017
okochaik:
Hello house i want you guys to advice me on this that have been bothering me. I have wanted to invest in TB since this year but i have a kind of fear that made me start to contemplate. I am a type that likes to invest all in one and so like to be careful not to lose at the end. What bothers me is the Biafran Agitation issues and now my question is, if anyhow Biafra separates can the Nigerian government decide not to refund my money?

This have really left me with thoughts of using the money to buy land. Please i need professional advice from the house
Note: No tribalism here


Do you know that you MAY be worse of if you invest it in buying land especially if it's not in your side of the divide?
But if the land is bought in your village it may be better but the value may drop by as much as 80% if people don't have money to buy then whereas you can come back to Nigeria as a foreigner to get your money even if you leave with Biafra.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by confluence: 4:33pm On Aug 02, 2017
Got 18% @ Firstbank for 162 days
There is also 196 days for 17.5
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by vitality22(m): 6:53pm On Aug 02, 2017
tunene66:



There was a guy who had a TREASURY BILL WORKSHEET sent to the group. However if you send me your email I can send it to you
I really would love to have the work sheet. I sent you a pm to that effect. Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Desanta(m): 7:37pm On Aug 02, 2017
We wish to inform you that your bid for a Treasury Bill of xxxxxxxxx with reference number 110151002860 was successful. Full details below:

Reference Number: 110151002860
Principal: xxxxxxxxxx
Rate: 18.25%
Tenor: 364 days
Maturity Date: 2018-08-02

Thank you for choosing FirstBank.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by MOM1(m): 8:47pm On Aug 02, 2017
Desanta:
We wish to inform you that your bid for a Treasury Bill of xxxxxxxxx with reference number 110151002860 was successful. Full details below:

Reference Number: 110151002860
Principal: xxxxxxxxxx
Rate: 18.25%
Tenor: 364 days
Maturity Date: 2018-08-02

Thank you for choosing FirstBank.

Waiting on my email confirmation...

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lotannam: 9:55pm On Aug 02, 2017
Please someone should kindly post the result of today primary market auction.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 10:03pm On Aug 02, 2017
TONY56:


Mind you, even foreigners can and do invest in Nigerian Treasury Bills. So I don't see your fears at all.

Better invest and go to sleep.

Thanks for the reply bro, I am grateful
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by AkDave1: 11:36pm On Aug 02, 2017
Has anyone been debited by Stanbic Bank... I am beginning to think that my request was not treated, or how can one know the status of the request. Gurus please help out
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by mindtricks: 1:50am On Aug 03, 2017
AkDave1:
Has anyone been debited by Stanbic Bank... I am beginning to think that my request was not treated, or how can one know the status of the request. Gurus please help out

Isnt that too early?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by mindtricks: 3:56am On Aug 03, 2017
Mascotlawman:
Please house, I have been using Gtb, but from everything I read here, I just want to know the percentage difference between FBN and Stanbic in the primary market. I wish to go for either of the two. Ur advice will really be helpful. God bless

Bro, simple difference:
First Bank- better Secondary market rates
Stanbic - better Pry market rates,
Though,both are generally preferred amongst all.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gazelle22: 6:35am On Aug 03, 2017
That performance amounts to about 5% returns in low risk trading and 12.5% in high risk trading in just one day. That is FOREX Trading.

Though over time, trading in online FOREX has been discredited due to the get-rich-quick approach of traders towards it which make them burn their fingers.

Nevertheless, forex trading remains a valid means of diversifying risk of investment and ensuring decent returns.

Why not? Presently, Treasury Bills returns maximum 22% backend and 18.5% upfront, a returns FOREX trading, using my system for instance, guarantees in about one week.

In a quick rush, this post is derailing, but just before you pass a judgment, let me assure you that I am a great fan of Treasury Bills and heavily invested in it too through Firstbank and Investment-one Financial Services. I also have equity in FBNQUEST and Renmoney.

Now, 90% of all my investible capital is in Treasury Bills, then, only about 10% is in FOREX Trading. Yet, the returns from the 10% invested in FOREX trading far outshines that of Treasury Bills related investments.

However, the greatest challenge in FOREX trading is getting a good trading system.

I am only dropping some decent financial or investment education.

For further clarification, you may reach me on watsapp 07063995085

I am not a scammer, but a financial educator. Not a professional one, but one who constantly generate and share ideas from within.

Thank you.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 8:30am On Aug 03, 2017
Primary Market Auction Results

91d- 13.422
182d- 17.4
364d- 18.53
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by AkDave1: 8:48am On Aug 03, 2017
Ok ooo. So when will the debit start
mindtricks:


Isnt that too early?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by AkDave1: 8:49am On Aug 03, 2017
Wow.. Juicy. Have you been debited?
olujaidi:
Primary Market Auction Results

91d- 13.422
182d- 17.4
364d- 18.53
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by MssRose(f): 8:59am On Aug 03, 2017
grin grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by MyPicsSaysItall: 9:03am On Aug 03, 2017
MssRose:
it's Friday already and yet to be debited by stanbic bank please who else budded with stanbic? and have you been debited?
lol cheesy

Today is thursday. Be patient. You will definitely be debited
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Investnow2017: 9:41am On Aug 03, 2017
MssRose:
it's Friday already and yet to be debited by stanbic bank please who else budded with stanbic? and have you been debited?

I thought today is THURSDAY cheesy Well, I need to change this my table calender grin Time moves faster when investing grin grin grin

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 9:49am On Aug 03, 2017
MssRose:
it's Friday already and yet to be debited by stanbic bank please who else budded with stanbic? and have you been debited?

Are you based in New Zealand?. grin cheesy. New Zealand is 12 hours ahead of Nigeria. That is the only reason why you could be on a Friday while Nigeria is on a Thursday. grin

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by mexite: 9:56am On Aug 03, 2017
Please when is the next auction bid for First Bank, I missed out on the yesterday's?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Investnow2017: 10:06am On Aug 03, 2017
olujaidi:
Primary Market Auction Results

91d- 13.422
182d- 17.4
364d- 18.53


And yet First bank gave me 18.25%. Well not bad as the yield is great - 22%
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by MssRose(f): 10:22am On Aug 03, 2017
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by MssRose(f): 10:29am On Aug 03, 2017
NL1960:


Are you based in New Zealand?. grin cheesy. New Zealand is 12 hours ahead of Nigeria. That is the only reason why you could be on a Friday while Nigeria is on a Thursday. grin
Lol. don't mind me. this time seems too slow

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