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blackbriar:
ALLAH Is GOD, the word allah is arabic just as chineke is igbo and ugbangidi is hausa and olorun is yoruba and dei is latin

Babacele:
"not those who say father, father , but those who do the will of the Father".....Jesus Christ. Calling someone "atheist" is just human labelling.
Right now ever wise ,universal father of all- irrespective of religious claims - is sending babies to be born in Buddhist ,xtain,Muslim, atheist etc homes.

Ubenedictus:
Let him who is without sin throw the first stone.


I can also show several cases of Protestant pastor with similar sin... I guess that also mean their church was originated by satan.



May God save us from silly fallacy.

johnw74:
ha ha u r as blind as your pope, all religions r not true, muslims don't believe in the same God as Christians,
in the koran, jews and Christians are called infidels, and the koran tells muslims to kill the infidels

johnw74:
ha ha u r as blind as your pope, all religions r not true, muslims don't believe in the same God as Christians,
in the koran, jews and Christians are called infidels, and the koran tells muslims to kill the infidels

johnw74:
You want some info on pope francis, ok here is a little:

Pope Francis declared at the Third Vatican Council that 'all religions are true.'
http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/francis.asp


Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too!

On Wednesday he declared that all people, not just Catholics, are redeemed through Jesus, even atheists.
http://www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=51077


God says diffrent:
Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


(pope francis did emphasize there was a catch. Those people must still do good.)

However God said:
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

johnw74:
duh a person with God given faith doesn't do those things,

u don't believe God:
Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.

johnw74:
there is two of your problems, u have faith-belief in the rcc, there is nothing much holy about the rcc,
don't leave out the roman part of your church name,
search for the attrociries of the roman catholic church, or ask me, i will post some for u

johnw74:
u also pray to mary and other human beings who have died, and angels, which is unbibical,
u choose rc doctrine over God's word.

brocab:
Look up on the net-its full of truths about Pope Francis.
Pope Francis believes the atheist will go into heaven, by their good works.
That sucks-and you had to turn your life over to the Church-before the Pope even recognises you..

blackbriar:
Just as the hebrew God instructed King saul to kill all amalekites including women,children and cattles

blackbriar:
because some certain fanatics call you infidel does not erode the principle of a religious cult.
The worship of a supreme being who is the creator of all.
This is not the pope speaking.It is theology.

johnw74:
u and your pope don't believe God:

Act 4:12  Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. 

Mar 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 

Joh 3:36  He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Joh 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1Jn 5:12  He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

Rev 20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

johnw74:
ha ha the muslims holy book calls christians pagan and says to kill them
and u say the God of the koran is the same god as the God of the Bible

blackbriar:
THERE IS NO THIRD VATICAN COUNCIL.
you just say things from hate sites and repeat them with all authority.
THE LAST COUNCIL WAS VATICAN II CALLED BY POPE JOHN XX111
until u revert i wont answer the rest of your questions

blackbriar:
All religions are true,

You want some info on pope francis, ok here is a little:




Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too!

On Wednesday he declared that all people, not just Catholics, are redeemed through Jesus, even atheists.
http://www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=51077


God says diffrent:
Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


(pope francis did emphasize there was a catch. Those people must still do good.)

However God said:
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

blackbriar:
St.peter denies christ three times. who witnessed the transfiguration and ll the mighty works of christ.
DUDE.
we have now rewriting our own teachings and eroding moral teachings for our own personal gain.
well done clap for your sef. this is the reason why a govt offical will steal more than bill gates worth and we the masses will say "and so?"

blackbriar:
I know the atrocities of the catholic church. don tell me.
But it does not refute the fat that the church is APOSTOLIC,ONE, CATHOLIC AND HOLY.

blackbriar:
And i repeat for umpteeth time , I pray IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER,SON AND HOLY SPIRIT, WHICH IS THE MOST HOLY TRINITY,WHO IS GOD.

johnw74:
I posted that link without reading from the site,
funny though how u were supporting it until now






now attend to the rest of the post:

johnw74:
not the roman catholic church, u r blinded:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Babacele:
Mat 7 .....23-24:

Many will say to Me on that
day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in Your name, and in
Your name drive out demons and
perform many miracles?’ Then I
will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew
you; depart from Me, you workers
of iniquity.’ Therefore
everyone who hears these words
of Mine and acts on them is like a
wise man who built his house on
the rock.…

blackbriar:
P>LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - The Holy Father is full of surprises, born of true and faithful humility. On Wednesday he declared that all people, not just Catholics, are redeemed through Jesus, even atheists.
DIDNT CHRIST COME TO DIE FOR ALL?

johnw74:
u sure r confused, and like i said:

u don't believe God:
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

johnw74:
You believe a mere man, and u don't believe God:

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Joh 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1Jn 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

blackbriar:
LOL...BECAUSE I DONT SHARE THE SAME IDEOLOGY AND BELIEF AS YOU, I AM BLINDED...WOW...CLASSIC.
Bible Verses About the ‘One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church’

…The Church is One

John 10:16: Jesus prophesies that “there shall be one fold and one shepherd.”
John 17:17-23: Jesus prays that his followers “may be one as we are one,” and “may be brought to perfection as one.”
Ephesians 4:4-6: “ There is one body, one Spirit… one Lord, one faith, one baptism, and one God and Father of us all…”
1 Corinthians 1:10: “I appeal to you… that there be no dissensions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment.”
Romans 16:17: “take note of those who create dissensions and difficulties”
Philippians 2:2: be “…of same the mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind.”
Romans 12:5: “so we, who are many, are one body in Christ…”
1 Corinthians 12:13: “…by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body…”
Colossians 3:15: “Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in the one body.”
…The Church is Holy

1 Timothy 3:15: “…know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.”
Colossians 1:18: “And he [Jesus] is the head of the body, the church…”
1 Peter 2:9-10: “But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God… Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God…”
Ephesians 2:19-22: “Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God’s people and members of God’s household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.”
…The Church is Catholic (‘universal’ & ‘of the fullness’)

Matthew 28:18-20: “And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
Mark 16:15-16: “And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.'”
John 14:26: “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.”
John 16:12-13: “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.”
…The Church is Apostolic

Ephesians 2:19-20: “… but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone,”
Matthew 16:18-10: “And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
Luke 22:28-30: “You [the apostles] are those who have continued with me in my trials; and I assign to you, as my Father assigned to me, a kingdom, that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.”
John 15:16: “You [the apostles] did not choose me, but I [Jesus] chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide…”
Matthew 28:16,18-20: “Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee… And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age.”
John 20:21-23: “Jesus said to them [the apostles] again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

blackbriar:
LOL first u say we are all sinners the nu say once u believe u are good to go. am confused.....help me here.

blackbriar:
All you have just quoted and said still supports the popes motion that christ died for all, including atheist.

blackbriar:
I have heard so many versions.....i want your own version.

brocab:
My version is on the net.

johnw74:
^^^ none of those verses are talking about the church that hates God:
(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

u have been blinded:
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

blackbriar:
The catholic belief has never been that our good works lead to our salvation. The catholic belief is:

We are saved by grace,
which comes through faith
which is brought to life by good works
and[b] those are brought about by christian love and charity[/b]

johnw74:
Christ died so all can be saved through faith in him
it is onlt through christ that one can be saved
u r twisting things, which is lying
and u don't believe these verses:

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Joh 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1Jn 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.