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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 3:28pm On Aug 09, 2017
johnw74:
u r changing your tune as u go, u don't understand the Bible,

faith is not bought about by "christian love and charity"
it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
CHANGING WHAT TONE.......DID U READ THE POST AND COMPREHEND IT?
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:30pm On Aug 09, 2017
blackbriar:
Please where is it stated that the catholic church hates God?
u sure r blinded:
2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 3:33pm On Aug 09, 2017
johnw74:
^^^ none of those verses are talking about the church that hates God:
(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

u have been blinded:
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
AND THE ARK OF THE COVENANT?
WAIT HOW ABOUT THE TEMPLE THAT WERE CARVED WITH IMAGES OF THE ARK OF THE CONVENANT,THE BRAZEN ALTAR,PALMS.
THE SAME TEMPLE WHERE THE GLORY OF THE LORD DESCENDED IN GLORY TO ACCEPT SOLOMON'S SACRIFICE.
OR IS THE IMAGE OF THE HANGING SERPENT?
WAIT WHY WAS DAVID'S WIFE MICAH CURSED BY GOD?
ARE U SAYING THE DOVE AND CRUCIFIX AND FISH SYMBOLS ATTRIBUTED TO CHRISTIANITY ARE ALL GRAVEN?
U DO KNOW WAT THE DOVE SYMBOLISES IN XTIANITY RYT?

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:33pm On Aug 09, 2017
blackbriar:
CHANGING WHAT TONE.......DID U READ THE POST AND COMPREHEND IT?
yes of course, but u don't comprehend

faith is not bought about by "christian love and charity" as u said,
it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 3:35pm On Aug 09, 2017
johnw74:
yes of course, but u don't comprehend

faith is not bought about by "christian love and charity" as u said,
it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
The catholic belief has never been that our good works lead to our salvation. The catholic belief is:

We are saved by grace,
which comes through faith
which is brought to life by good works
and those are brought about by christian love and charity


PLEASE READ CAREFULLY.
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:38pm On Aug 09, 2017
blackbriar:
AND THE ARK OF THE COVENANT?
WAIT HOW ABOUT THE TEMPLE THAT WERE CARVED WITH IMAGES OF THE ARK OF THE CONVENANT,THE BRAZEN ALTAR,PALMS.
THE SAME TEMPLE WHERE THE GLORY OF THE LORD DESCENDED IN GLORY TO ACCEPT SOLOMON'S SACRIFICE.
OR IS THE IMAGE OF THE HANGING SERPENT?
WAIT WHY WAS DAVID'S WIFE MICAH CURSED BY GOD?
ARE U SAYING THE DOVE AND CRUCIFIX AND FISH SYMBOLS ATTRIBUTED TO CHRISTIANITY ARE ALL GRAVEN?
U DO KNOW WAT THE DOVE SYMBOLISES IN XTIANITY RYT?
there is a big diffreence between the ark which God said to build,
and statues of mary and other people who u pray before

but i understand u cannot see the diffrence, oh blinded one
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 3:38pm On Aug 09, 2017
johnw74:
u sure r blinded:
2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
CHAI....Just when you thought you have heard it all.
Please just post the hate site,so we can just go there direct and read all this stuff.
cos i don tire.
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:42pm On Aug 09, 2017
blackbriar:
The catholic belief has never been that our good works lead to our salvation. The catholic belief is:

We are saved by grace,
which comes through faith
which is brought to life by good works
and those are brought about by christian love and charity


PLEASE READ CAREFULLY.
u cannot see so i will tell u again, our faith doesn't come about by "christian love and charity" as u say,
it is the gift of God, u really should believe God:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 3:43pm On Aug 09, 2017
johnw74:
there is a big diffreence between the ark which God said to build,
and statues of mary and other people who u pray before

but i understand u cannot see the diffrence, oh blinded one
YOU SAID IMAGES AND I QUOTE IMAGES FOR YOU

THE CRUCIFIX, THE DOVE, THE ARK OF THE COVENANT, THE PAINTINGS OF THE HOLY FAMILY AND THE LAST SUPPER.
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 3:45pm On Aug 09, 2017
johnw74:
u cannot see so i will tell u again, our faith doesn't come about by "christian love and charity" as u say,
it is the gift of God, u really should believe God:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
haba now, you are doing this purposely,anyways..........we are saved by grace which is brought by faith. faith is brought to life by good works. And good works brings about christian love and charity.

Hope you are good know ba?
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:45pm On Aug 09, 2017
blackbriar:
CHAI....Just when you thought you have heard it all.
Please just post the hate site,so we can just go there direct and read all this stuff.
cos i don tire.
yes u tire of God's word, because u hate Him, just as he said:

(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:49pm On Aug 09, 2017
blackbriar:
YOU SAID IMAGES AND I QUOTE IMAGES FOR YOU

THE CRUCIFIX, THE DOVE, THE ARK OF THE COVENANT, THE PAINTINGS OF THE HOLY FAMILY AND THE LAST SUPPER.
yes u don't believe God, i know, u don't have to keep repeating it, i know already:

(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 3:51pm On Aug 09, 2017
johnw74:
yes u don't believe God, i know, u don't have to keep repeating it, i know already:

(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Are all i mentioned images?
Answer.
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:54pm On Aug 09, 2017
blackbriar:
haba now, you are doing this purposely,anyways..........we are saved by grace which is brought by faith. faith is brought to life by good works. And good works brings about christian love and charity.

Hope you are good know ba?
u keep changing-twisting-lying but that's what u love to do
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:59pm On Aug 09, 2017
blackbriar:
Are all i mentioned images?
Answer.
i don't care if u mentioned images or not, what r u trying to twist-lie about now
no matter what us say to try and make the verses out to be a lie, the verses are true


i showed that u who pray before statues and paintings etc hate God,
well i didn't show it, God Himself said that u hate Him:

(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 4:01pm On Aug 09, 2017
c u tomorrow
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 4:01pm On Aug 09, 2017
johnw74:
i don't care if u mentioned images or not, what r u trying to twist-lie about now
no matter what us say to try and make the verses out to be a lie, the verses are true


i showed that u who pray before statues and paintings etc hate God,
well i didn't show it, God Himself said that u hate Him:

(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
TWIST WHICH LIE NA ...BROS
ark of covenant no be image
crucifix no be image
the dove which represents the holy spirit....no be image?
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 4:02pm On Aug 09, 2017
johnw74:
u keep changing-twisting-lying but that's what u love to do
where and how know, point it out....
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Babacele: 4:17pm On Aug 09, 2017
johnw74:
yes Jesus will say that to rc's and to all those that hate God:

(Exo 20:4)  Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5)  Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Numbers 21. 7-9
The people came to
Moses and said,
“We sinned when
we spoke against
the LORD and
against you. Pray
that the LORD will
take the snakes
away from us.” So
Moses prayed for
the people.
8 The LORD said to
Moses, “Make a
snake and put it up
on a pole; anyone
who is bitten can
look at it and live.”
9 So Moses made a
bronze snake and
put it up on a pole.
Then when anyone
was bitten by a
snake and looked at
the bronze snake,
they lived.

"All Generations shall call her Blessed"
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 12:32am On Aug 10, 2017
I have repeatedly-wrote about Pope Francis-or over the net, the news is flying in all direction about this mask man hidden inside the Vatican.
The differences we are having between us-is your heart is constantly learning about religion-then you are learning about Christ.
blackbriar:
LOL........no comment
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 1:01am On Aug 10, 2017
blackbriar:
PLEASE WHAT AM I TWISTING......SPELL IT OUT.
spell it out = TWISTING-LYING

duh, u were agreeing with your pope that even atheist are saved
then u change that to Christ died for all

Christ died for all doesn't mean all are saved, but that all are able to be saved through them gaining faith in Jesus Christ
atheists don't have faith in Jesus Christ mr twister
u r all over the place like a good little lie lie rc

u even confuse yourself by your own twisting cheesy

but there it is spelt out 4 u
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 1:03am On Aug 10, 2017
blackbriar:
CHANGING WHAT TONE.......DID U READ THE POST AND COMPREHEND IT?
ha ha, u keep repeating yourself as liars do
read my replies again mr twister
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74:
blackbriar:
TWIST WHICH LIE NA ...BROS
ark of covenant no be image
crucifix no be image
the dove which represents the holy spirit....no be image?
ha ha, never ending continued twisting-lying to deny the truth of these scriptures:
(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

God said to make the ark
God never said to make crufixes, that's more idolatry of the rcc,
but u don't understand, how can u, satan has blinded u to the truth

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 1:16am On Aug 10, 2017
blackbriar:
where and how know, point it out....
smiley u know i have oh blind one, u r confused and cannot tell the truth

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74:
Babacele:
Numbers 21. 7-9
The people came to
Moses and said,
“We sinned when
we spoke against
the LORD and
against you. Pray
that the LORD will
take the snakes
away from us.” So
Moses prayed for
the people.
8 The LORD said to
Moses, “Make a
snake and put it up
on a pole; anyone
who is bitten can
look at it and live.”
9 So Moses made a
bronze snake and
put it up on a pole.
Then when anyone
was bitten by a
snake and looked at
the bronze snake,
they lived.

"All Generations shall call her Blessed"
smiley what have those verses got to do with mary, or with anything that is spoken about here
u rc's sure r blinded and confused

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 1:59am On Aug 10, 2017
God said those that have images hate me,
rcc buildings are full of images, statues and paintings of people

(Exo 20:4)  Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5)  Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;


rc's look for reasons to not believe these verses and many other Bible scriptures
even saying what about the ark that God said to make


God can do anything He wills, but u satanic rc's think if God can say to make an ark
then u can make images also for yourselves, even though He told u not to, oh evil ones.
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 2:58am On Aug 10, 2017
more on praying with rosary and bowing to mary and other rc false doctrine:

Catholicism is the biggest enemy to Christianity because it poses as a Christian denomination. Catholicism is not a different denomination. Catholicism is a false religion, which is sending many deceived people to Hell. It is impossible to follow all of their heresies and be saved.

Today many are trying to classify it as a Christian religion, but for centuries it has always been known as a false religion. Many believers were martyred for the rejection of the Roman Catholic Church. Throughout history the RCC has been filled with idolatry, pedophilia, and abuse. In Catholicism you can never know that you are saved.

There is no way you can read the Word of God and not see that Catholicism is of the devil. Do not be deceived.

more soon
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 3:07am On Aug 10, 2017
johnw74:
more on praying with rosary and bowing to mary and other rc false doctrine:

Catholicism is the biggest enemy to Christianity because it poses as a Christian denomination. Catholicism is not a different denomination. Catholicism is a false religion, which is sending many deceived people to Hell. It is impossible to follow all of their heresies and be saved.

Today many are trying to classify it as a Christian religion, but for centuries it has always been known as a false religion. Many believers were martyred for the rejection of the Roman Catholic Church. Throughout history the RCC has been filled with idolatry, pedophilia, and abuse. In Catholicism you can never know that you are saved.

There is no way you can read the Word of God and not see that Catholicism is of the devil. Do not be deceived.

more soon
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“Martin Luther – We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist.“

Charles Spurgeon – “Christ did not redeem His church with His blood so the pope could come in and steal away the glory. He never came from heaven to earth and poured out His very heart that He might purchase His people so that a poor sinner, a mere man, should be set upon high to be admired by all the nations and to call himself God’s representative on earth! Christ has always been the head of His church.“

Martin Luther – “I am persuaded that if at this time, St. Peter, in person, should preach all the articles of Holy Scripture, and only deny the pope’s authority, power, and primacy, and say, that the pope is not the head of all Christendom, they would cause him to be hanged.”

Westminster Confession of Faith – “There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ; nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God.”

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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Babacele: 4:24am On Aug 10, 2017
johnw74:
smiley what have those verses got to do with mary, or with anything that is spoken about here
u rc's sure r blinded and confused

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
to tell you that you do not understand the religion.....


Matthew 7:12
In everything, then, do to others
as you would have them do to
you. For this is the essence of the
Law and the prophets.
Galatians 5:14
The entire Law is fulfilled in a
single decree: "Love your
neighbor as yourself."
Treasury of Scripture
On these two commandments
hang all the law and the prophets.
Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things
whatever you would that men
should do to you, …
John 1:17 For the law was given
by Moses, but grace and truth
came by Jesus Christ.
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 7:30am On Aug 10, 2017
johnw74:
ha ha, never ending continued twisting-lying to deny the truth of these scriptures:
(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

God said to make the ark
God never said to make crufixes, that's more idolatry of the rcc,
but u don't understand, how can u, satan has blinded u to the truth

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
are all i mentioned images used in the worship of God?
Y/N?
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 7:31am On Aug 10, 2017
johnw74:
yes of course, but u don't comprehend

faith is not bought about by "christian love and charity" as u said,
it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Bros...is it that you re trying very hard not to understand or your understanding capacity is the issue here?
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by blackbriar: 7:32am On Aug 10, 2017
johnw74:
ha ha, never ending continued twisting-lying to deny the truth of these scriptures:
(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

God said to make the ark
God never said to make crufixes, that's more idolatry of the rcc,
but u don't understand, how can u, satan has blinded u to the truth

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
OOHHHH......GOD SAID TO MAKE ARK,BRAZEN ALTAR,LAmp stand ......which are all images ba?
so where is the lie here.
bros stop your cheap blackmail.
its sickening...
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