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johnw74:
ha ha, never ending continued twisting-lying to deny the truth of these scriptures:
(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

God said to make the ark
God never said to make crufixes, that's more idolatry of the rcc,
but u don't understand, how can u, satan has blinded u to the truth

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

johnw74:
ha ha, u keep repeating yourself as liars do
read my replies again mr twister

johnw74:
there is a big diffreence between the ark which God said to build,
and statues of mary and other people who u pray before

but i understand u cannot see the diffrence, oh blinded one

brocab:
I have repeatedly-wrote about Pope Francis-or over the net, the news is flying in all direction about this mask man hidden inside the Vatican.
The differences we are having between us-is your heart is constantly learning about religion-then you are learning about Christ.

johnw74:
i don't care if u mentioned images or not, what r u trying to twist-lie about now
no matter what us say to try and make the verses out to be a lie, the verses are true


i showed that u who pray before statues and paintings etc hate God,
well i didn't show it, God Himself said that u hate Him:

(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Babacele:
to tell you that you do not understand the religion.....


Matthew 7:12
In everything, then, do to others
as you would have them do to
you. For this is the essence of the
Law and the prophets.
Galatians 5:14
The entire Law is fulfilled in a
single decree: "Love your
neighbor as yourself."
Treasury of Scripture
On these two commandments
hang all the law and the prophets.
Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things
whatever you would that men
should do to you, …
John 1:17 For the law was given
by Moses, but grace and truth
came by Jesus Christ.

blackbriar:
are all i mentioned images used in the worship of God?
Y/N?

blackbriar:
Bros...is it that you re trying very hard not to understand or your understanding capacity is the issue here?

blackbriar:
OOHHHH......GOD SAID TO MAKE ARK,BRAZEN ALTAR,LAmp stand ......which are all images ba?
so where is the lie here.
bros stop your cheap blackmail.
its sickening...

blackbriar:
OOHHHH......GOD SAID TO MAKE ARK,BRAZEN ALTAR,LAmp stand ......which are all images ba?
so where is the lie here.
bros stop your cheap blackmail.
What did u say about the crucifix again?
abeg,which church u dey go?

blackbriar:
Thank you for calling me a liar, all my post will exonerate me.

blackbriar:
you did not answer the question but avoided it totally and labelled me BLIND.
yOUR IDEOLOGY OF evangelisation is not good. you sure won't convert peeps with threats and abuses.

blackbriar:
You don not care if they are images......but you have passed judgement on me based on the fact that they are images.
This your logic is something.

johnw74:
continue



“Martin Luther – We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist.“

Charles Spurgeon – “Christ did not redeem His church with His blood so the pope could come in and steal away the glory. He never came from heaven to earth and poured out His very heart that He might purchase His people so that a poor sinner, a mere man, should be set upon high to be admired by all the nations and to call himself God’s representative on earth! Christ has always been the head of His church.“

Martin Luther – “I am persuaded that if at this time, St. Peter, in person, should preach all the articles of Holy Scripture, and only deny the pope’s authority, power, and primacy, and say, that the pope is not the head of all Christendom, they would cause him to be hanged.”

Westminster Confession of Faith – “There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ; nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God.”

more soon

johnw74:
i have to admit i don't keep answering every one of your confused posts

and i'm not interisted in converting God haters, i like to show how u hate God and His word
u will have no excuse when u get your reward

johnw74:
again the same repeated confusion from mr God hater:

(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

blackbriar:
i thought CHRIST's commission was to spread the gospel to all and sundry.......and not to point out "God haters"

blackbriar:
WHAT IS IT WITH YOU AND THE WORD "HATE"?

johnw74:
u r blinded to think child sexual abuse in the rcc is fallacy
and because it may exist in other churches to a lesser degree doesn't
make it any less evil, your reasoning is of the devil

blackbriar:
YOU SAID IMAGES AND I QUOTE IMAGES FOR YOU

THE CRUCIFIX, THE DOVE, THE ARK OF THE COVENANT, THE PAINTINGS OF THE HOLY FAMILY AND THE LAST SUPPER.

johnw74:
duh u think love is not saying anything to God haters
u r wrong blinded and confused


(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Ubenedictus:
oh, I know what child abuse is an the gravity of such grave sin. That isn't A fallacy.



The fallacy is your silly argument that says "since the CC has abusers that means it comes from satan.... That argument is inherently fallacious and i am surprised that an educated man made such a stu.pid argument.

Ubenedictus:
You should have seen that he is purposely playing dumb. He doesn't want to reason he only wants to accuse.

Babacele:
Numbers 21. 7-9
The people came to
Moses and said,
“We sinned when
we spoke against
the LORD and
against you. Pray
that the LORD will
take the snakes
away from us.” So
Moses prayed for
the people.
8 The LORD said to
Moses, “Make a
snake and put it up
on a pole; anyone
who is bitten can
look at it and live.”
9 So Moses made a
bronze snake and
put it up on a pole.
Then when anyone
was bitten by a
snake and looked at
the bronze snake,
they lived.

"All generations shall call me blessed"

johnw74:
i maintain that child sexual abuse is from the devil

u maintain that it isn't, such is the fallacy of roman catholics

Ubenedictus:
I have seen you playing dumb before, I know it very well now. Atleast i know you are dumb on purpose.



You said :


with the rcc being rife with priests comitting
sexual assault on children
it's clear that their god-their originator of church
doctrine which goes against God's word, is
satan.



I maintain that the argument you made above is fallacious.

johnw74:
continue



Catholics worship Mary. They worship images and statues, which is idolatry.

CCC 721 – “Mary, the all-holy ever-virgin Mother of God, is the masterwork of the mission of the Son and the Spirit in the fullness of time.”

Pope Pius IX in 1854 “Let all the children of the Catholic Church … Proceed to worship, invoke, and pray to the most blessed Virgin Mary, mother of God. ”

The Salve Regina – “Hail Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, our life our sweetness and our hope……Turn then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us.“

Look at these words “Mary, the all-holy ever-virgin Mother of God. Hail Holy Queen!” The Catholic Church worships Mary more than Jesus. Mary was a sinner just like it says in Ecclesiastes 7:20 and Romans 3:23. She needed a Savior. Go to Google. Look up Mary Worship. You are going to see people bowing down and kissing statues and paintings of Mary.

You cannot convince me in any way that those images are not worship. Blasphemy! Bowing down is a form of worship. Praying to someone is a form of worship. It doesn’t matter how you try to justify it this is clear idolatry. Pope Pius IX in 1854 said, “proceed to worship Mary.” How can you deny that? The Roman Catholic Church is telling you to do everything the Bible tells you not to do.

If you’re facing the position of an object and you are bowing down to it, kissing it, praying to it, blessing it, that is idolatry! It doesn’t matter if it is a Bible that is idolatry plain and simple. Mary is not to be worshiped. A woman said to “Jesus blessed is the womb that bore you.” Jesus could have said anything to honor Mary when she said those things, but what did He say?

In Luke 11:28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” No disciple worshiped Mary. No one! This is one of many false Catholic doctrines. Also, Mary didn’t die a virgin as seen in Matthew 13:55-56.

6. Exodus 20:3-5 You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me.

7 . Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols.

johnw74:
Praying to the saints

Pope John Paul II clearly prays to Mary.

“Together we lift our confident and sorrowful petition to you.”

“Hear the cry of the pain of victims of war and so many forms of violence that bloody the Earth.”

“Clear away the darkness of sorrow and worry, of hate and vengeance.”

“Open up our minds and hearts to faith and forgiveness!”

CCC 2679 – “Mary is the perfect Orans (pray-er), a figure of the Church. When we pray to her, we are adhering with her to the plan of the Father, who sends his Son to save all men. Like the beloved disciple we welcome Jesus’ mother into our homes, for she has become the mother of all the living. We can pray with and to her. The prayer of the Church is sustained by the prayer of Mary and united with it in hope.”

“Aschandius, my father, dearly beloved of my heart, with my sweet mother and my brethren, remember your Pectorius in the peace of the Fish [Christ]” (Epitaph of Pectorius [A.D. 375]).

Many Catholics say, “we don’t pray to Mary and other dead saints we ask them to pray for us,” but I talked to Catholics who said they pray to Mary. The original stance of the Catholic church was to pray to Mary.

Pope John Paul II is clearly praying to Mary. How can you read what he said above and say otherwise? This is blasphemy.

It is idolatry to pray to dead saints or to ask them to pray for you. It is unbiblical and it is sinful. We are to only pray to God. Nowhere does it say to pray to dead people. In fact, talking to dead people is always associated with witchcraft in Scripture.

5. Revelation 22:8-9 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me, but he said to me, “You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.”