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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by adoox2: 8:52pm On Aug 10, 2017
justwise:


1. Who will be sponsoring the trip?

2.Traveling with her hubby?

1. Inlaw(invitee) nd hubby, Hubby is paying for ticket

2. No. Traveling alone.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by geek(m): 9:11pm On Aug 10, 2017
Advisory:

Like I said a lot of people will disagree but I know for a fact that the UK does not monitor exit and this was brought up in the House of Parliament for debate sometimes ago. If home office monitors through airline then they should knock at your registered address when you have overstayed which they don't. As you know the uk takes data protection seriously and the airlines are not obligated to pass information to home office and that's the reason you have immigration desk at arrivals. They know you have overstayed when they stop you at random, they check with your employer , they carry out an immigration raid or you commit a crime.

Mate, stop spouting misleading information! People rely on information here and when you matter of factly spread misinformation their applications get rejected and they end up out of pocket!

Exit checks are very much in place! The information comes from the airlines systems and you're flagged as having exited the moment your boarding pass is scanned as you board the plane.

Instead of telling us what you "know for a fact" (because you don't), why don't you do a bit of research? Like this document from the Home Office:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/exit-checks-on-passengers-leaving-the-uk/exit-checks-fact-sheet

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Infiosa: 9:12pm On Aug 10, 2017
Kalabariprinces:
Evening house,

Is there a general delay in processing for visit visas for applicantions made at the Abuja branch?

My husband and sponsee made their application on 31st July. I know it's summer holidays but we are used to a quick turnaround.
Thanks in advance

My application was submitted the same day at Ikeja and I haven't heard from them also, however, my first application was faster. Anyway, I will update the forum accordingly once I get a decision mail from them.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Solatium(m): 9:15pm On Aug 10, 2017
justwise:




Trade carefully with such advise you called 'helpful'

Her first application which was refused was to visit a brother who is now an overstayer and this one is to visit an uncle that was not disclosed before hence the problem..her brother's immigration status will be brought up because he is on their file already and because he overstayed the suspicion will be that she is likely to overstay as well.

Homeoffice knows who has left the country because airlines or other border posts has the list of people going in and out of the country.

The only way you can leave the UK without the authority somehow knowing is when you get smuggled and the car or truck was not searched at the border.


So are we saying here that if the Sister should not apply if she has a genuine reasons and strong documents that will secure her a visa?

Are we saying application will be judge base on her brother antecedent?

Tge system with these people does not workike you view it,the sister is an individual and the brother is another individual,for the fact the brother commits a crime does not affect the Sister in anyway.
what you could have advised was to simply declared the past contact with her brother on her new application,the decision to issue her a visa is at the ECO discretion

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by justwise(m): 9:22pm On Aug 10, 2017
geek:


Mate, stop spouting misleading information! People rely on information here and when you matter of factly spread misinformation their applications get rejected and they end up out of pocket!

Exit checks are very much in place! The information comes from the airlines systems and you're flagged as having exited the moment your boarding pass is scanned as you board the plane.

Instead of telling us what you "know for a fact" (because you don't), why don't you do a bit of research? Like this document from the Home Office:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/exit-checks-on-passengers-leaving-the-uk/exit-checks-fact-sheet

Can you imagine the amount of misleading info some individuals spread here?

Thanks for that link though

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Solatium(m): 9:23pm On Aug 10, 2017
Brightingsus:


Inasmuch as you could be right in your arguments, it does not particularly help the case concerned. If we look closely at the concerns of the person who asked the initial question, you would see the cousin was mentioned earlier who is now an overstayer. Now an uncle is to be mentioned which was not mentioned previously. The real issue to deal with is whether or not the cousin would be mentioned again given it was originally. Any family you mention would prompt you to give their passport numbers. Why does UKVI ask for this info? Think about it. No two passport numbers are the same. Whether or not UKVI would search out the overstayer or not, chances are that the visa applicant could be seen as a potential overstayer given their family member did.

It is not mandatory you give the passport number of all tge people you mentioned on your application,it is not mandatory you give their current address as they might have changed address or you might have lost contact with them.
the only time you are compel to give the full details is when the invites originate from any of the mentioned person.....Probability are that she might not have established a contact with the uncle until recently,it does not stop her from getting an invite from the same uncle..she should go ahead and get her invite from the said uncle and disclose that her brother is also in UK based on her previous application.getting a visa for her on this occasion is then left for the ECO and if she is refused again,she can always reapply having set the record straight
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 9:25pm On Aug 10, 2017
Solatium:


So are we saying here that if the Sister should not apply if she has a genuine reasons and strong documents that will secure her a visa?

Are we saying application will be judge base on her brother antecedent?

Tge system with these people does not workike you view it,the sister is an individual and the brother is another individual,for the fact the brother commits a crime does not affect the Sister in anyway.
what you could have advised was to simply declared the past contact with her brother on her new application,the decision to issue her a visa is at the ECO discretion

No one is discouraging the applicant. If you say everyone should resort to the ECO's judgment, why then do we have this forum? This forum is to guide people, based on peoples' tangible experiences, so every applicant makes informed decisions. It's up to the applicant to weigh their options and decide for themselves. A lot of people that have been refused were not adequately informed on how to come close to the mind of the ECO.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by justwise(m): 9:29pm On Aug 10, 2017
adoox2:


1. Inlaw(invitee) nd hubby, Hubby is paying for ticket

2. No. Traveling alone.

1.Her brother's immigration status will come back to haunt her and for the fact that she failed to mention her in-law in her previous application will also be an issue.

If she was applying with her hubby and they can comfortably afford the trip it would have been a different case
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Solatium(m): 9:30pm On Aug 10, 2017
Brightingsus:


No one is discouraging the applicant. If you say everyone should resort to the ECO's judgment, why then do we have this forum? This forum is to guide people, based on peoples' tangible experiences, so every applicant makes informed decisions. It's up to the applicant to weigh their options and decide for themselves. A lot of people that have been refused were not adequately informed on how to come close to the mind of the ECO.

That is why is not one size fits all,the advise that worked for A does work against B sometimes,I still believe she a chance of securing a visa now or at a later application,all she need to do is to come clean which she has been able to do in her Question
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Tjslyy: 10:10pm On Aug 10, 2017
Thanks. I submitted on the 12th of June.
ddonsly:
Congratulations! Please what date in June did you apply? Thanks

Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Nobody: 8:31am On Aug 11, 2017
geek:


Mate, stop spouting misleading information! People rely on information here and when you matter of factly spread misinformation their applications get rejected and they end up out of pocket!

Exit checks are very much in place! The information comes from the airlines systems and you're flagged as having exited the moment your boarding pass is scanned as you board the plane.

Instead of telling us what you "know for a fact" (because you don't), why don't you do a bit of research? Like this document from the Home Office:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/exit-checks-on-passengers-leaving-the-uk/exit-checks-fact-sheet
Like I said I knew when it was debated in the House of Commons as I did not follow through I do apologise for the miss information but careful with your language mate "spouting missleading information " that's beneath you even. Please keep this thread sane and with respect everyone deserves. Don't know about the rest but from visiting to Tier 4 to Tier 1 and tier2 visas done it all.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Nobody: 8:39am On Aug 11, 2017
justwise:


Can you imagine the amount of misleading info some individuals spread here?

Thanks for that link though

Mate if you knew it all you probably be an immigration lawyer and no one stops you from researching on your own as well l. Reason for the forum so different people can share knowledge.
Monitoring resumed again from April 2014 What if he overstayed before monitoring then !!!!!!!!

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by showstopa: 9:21am On Aug 11, 2017
Is it not ridiculous that my Mum's passport took 2 days to come from UK to Nigeria but will take a week to go from Abuja to the east by DHL. smh
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Nobody: 9:21am On Aug 11, 2017
Let forget and move you are all trying
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by lightdream: 11:06am On Aug 11, 2017
Please what the max response time one should expect of a standard visit application that was submitted 8th June. Though it dint meet up the initial primary intends of July. Everyday tracking is still not recognized. Any timing? thank you
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by showstopa: 11:17am On Aug 11, 2017
lightdream:
Please what the max response time one should expect of a standard visit application that was submitted 8th June. Though it dint meet up the initial primary intends of July. Everyday tracking is still not recognized. Any timing? thank you
No one can really say. It seems to have a certain amount of variability
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by TatPat: 11:21am On Aug 11, 2017
lightdream:
Please what the max response time one should expect of a standard visit application that was submitted 8th June. Though it dint meet up the initial primary intends of July. Everyday tracking is still not recognized. Any timing? thank you

Within 60 working days (I heard)
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 11:45am On Aug 11, 2017
TatPat:


Within 60 working days (I heard)

12 weeks (3 months)?? Nawa!
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by TatPat: 11:50am On Aug 11, 2017
Brightingsus:


12 weeks (3 months)?? Nawa!

Abi? That's what it says in the uk processing times for applications done from Nigeria ... 100% of applications were processed within 60 working days and that was in May 2017, they haven't updated for June and July, which might even be worse.
Someone on nairaland got his own after 45 working days, then @yommieyommie got his children's passports after about 39 working days I think.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 12:26pm On Aug 11, 2017
TatPat:


Abi? That's what it says in the uk processing times for applications done from Nigeria ... 100% of applications were processed within 60 working days and that was in May 2017, they haven't updated for June and July, which might even be worse.
Someone on nairaland got his own after 45 working days, then @yommieyommie got his children's passports after about 39 working days I think.

Nah, it doesn't say 'working' days. It says 3 weeks, which is 15 working days (a week being 5 working days). Those who got a decision on their applications for extremely longer would be tailored to their own individual circumstances.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by justwise(m): 12:50pm On Aug 11, 2017
Advisory:

Mate if you knew it all you probably be an immigration lawyer and no one stops you from researching on your own as well l. Reason for the forum so different people can share knowledge.
Monitoring resumed again from April 2014 What if he overstayed before monitoring then !!!!!!!!

..is to share legitimate and honest info and not lies as an alternative 'fact'

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by geek(m): 1:01pm On Aug 11, 2017
Advisory:

Like I said I knew when it was debated in the House of Commons as I did not follow through I do apologise for the miss information but careful with your language mate "spouting missleading information " that's beneath you even. Please keep this thread sane and with respect everyone deserves. Don't know about the rest but from visiting to Tier 4 to Tier 1 and tier2 visas done it all.

I'll use whatever language I want to. You were going around matter of factly giving misinformation, including using phrases like "know for a fact" (when it turned out you didn't). Then you still argued the case when you were told otherwise.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by mokikeoj: 1:05pm On Aug 11, 2017
Are you a first time applicant?
lightdream:
Please what the max response time one should expect of a standard visit application that was submitted 8th June. Though it dint meet up the initial primary intends of July. Everyday tracking is still not recognized. Any timing? thank you
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by TatPat: 1:33pm On Aug 11, 2017
Brightingsus:


Nah, it doesn't say 'working' days. It says 3 weeks, which is 15 working days (a week being 5 working days). Those who got a decision on their applications for extremely longer would be tailored to their own individual circumstances.

Please go and check the processing time for May 2017 and the text on the page, here is a link https://visa-processingtimes.homeoffice.gov.uk/y/lagos-nigeria/visits-visas/general-visit-6-months-or-less of the processing time for applications from Lagos Nigeria for the month of May 2017 for general visit visas(standard visa). Feel free to go through it.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by lightdream: 2:13pm On Aug 11, 2017
mokikeoj:
Are you a first time applicant?
yes please
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by lightdream: 2:19pm On Aug 11, 2017
TatPat:


Within 60 working days (I heard)
These might be the benchmark then.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 2:29pm On Aug 11, 2017
TatPat:


Please go and check the processing time for May 2017 and the text on the page, here is a link https://visa-processingtimes.homeoffice.gov.uk/y/lagos-nigeria/visits-visas/general-visit-6-months-or-less of the processing time for applications from Lagos Nigeria for the month of May 2017 for general visit visas(standard visa). Feel free to go through it.

I already did check even before I responded to you, even before your original post. Am just saying the site says 100% of applications were decided within 60 days and not 60 working days for same May. For eg, a week is 7 days but 5 working days. Haba.....

Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by fpeter(f): 2:46pm On Aug 11, 2017
Hello sabi people, Please can one month proof of rent be used to invite someone to the uk?
As for utility bills, is TV license enough?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 5:42pm On Aug 11, 2017
fpeter:
Hello sabi people, Please can one month proof of rent be used to invite someone to the uk?
As for utility bills, is TV license enough?

Personally I wouldn't give TV licence a pass as utility as it's not really. Paying for a TV licence at a property does not really mean you live there. It does not even mean you have the right to live there. For eg, I was not paying for TV licence at my former address and I was dodging it. When I bought my new TV, TV licensing got the prompt that I bought a new tv and they stormed my address. I avoided them for about two times until I finally decided to pay. Now I no longer live there.

If you have Council Tax bill, that's perfect. Utility bills are mostly Water, Electricity and Gas because they are the utilities provided for you which you 'utilize' at a given address.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Brightingsus: 5:55pm On Aug 11, 2017
fpeter:
Hello sabi people, Please can one month proof of rent be used to invite someone to the uk?
As for utility bills, is TV license enough?

Hey fPeter, I think I remember you from your PMs. If your circumstances have not changed there are some markers to look out for. First, one month proof of rent can be ok. By proof of rent I suppose you mean rental payment Anyway rental payments are not very very necessary as long as you have your rental agreement for your UK sponsor. A rental agreement is stronger than a rental payment receipt.

Nonetheless you would need to keep an eye on the address on your husband's bank statements. If his bank statements over a period has a particular address and then the one month rent proof says another address, you would have to explain this. This does not mean you can't move address but you have to explain any anomalies.

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