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felixomor:
Its a lie
You were looking for apnea test because you are ignorant
And not qualified to manage such patient
You were also clutching straws. Just to convince yourself that u r making sense.
And there is nothing criminal in confirming a septic patient brain dead with EEG
You cant stop lying.

I never ever claimed I was qualified to manage the patient.
Apnoea test is used to declare a patient brain dead. So, he's brain dead, ngwa show your apnea test.

Every medical personnel knows that to certify someone brain dead, you need 3 things, coma, loss of brain stem reflexes and apnea test. Every other thing is ancillary including EEG, fMRI. You no know these things? Abi you watched it in Grey's Anatomy that EEG is a major criteria for brain death diagnosis

How can you be looking for who certified when the story clearly says it was only the emergency doctor who had first contact that was interviewed.
Another indication, that u dont read.

And brain death is a clinical diagnosis. eeg is even high up.
Clear your ignorance

You people said he was brain dead, ngwa bring the person and point where he was declared brain dead.
Na wa ooo

Please stop lying
"All the time" indeed

Did we say nobody has experienced such miracle before?
You are the one who used cassano's mini stroke to compare with dr eben
And now you are telling another lie of "all the time" prognosis

People beat prognostic odds all the time.
Cassano did it, people who had spontaneous remission of cancer did too.

felixomor:
Keeep shut and read the link u provided
And show us where "irreversible" is located in the 4 criteria for brain death l
Clinical diagnosis

Your problem is not only quackery.
You also yell lies.

What a shame!

Sorry to butt in, sir.

How long can you keep this facade going on? No one comes back from brain death. Is it that hard to understand? Or must "irreversible" be written on a medical textbook before you understand?

I entered a discussion with some other christians here and I noticed that there is this tactic of "playing dumb" when facts are introduced.

felixomor:
Keeep shut and read the link u provided
And show us where "irreversible" is located in the 4 criteria for brain death l
Clinical diagnosis

Your problem is not only quackery.
You also yell lies.

What a shame!

Definition of brain death is irreversible loss of function in the brain.
Definition of an entity and criteria of diagnosing the entity are 2 different things nna.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2772257/
https://www.openanesthesia.org/brain-death-definition/

Read the links and weep.

CatfishBilly:
Definition of brain death is irreversible loss of function in the brain.
Definition of an entity and criteria of diagnosing the entity are 2 different things nna.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2772257/
https://www.openanesthesia.org/brain-death-definition/

Read the links and weep.

What I asked u is very simple
Show me "Irreversible" in your own criteria that you posted with your own hands.

But we know the outcome.
You are obviously Empty!

felixomor:
What I asked u is very simple
Show me "Irreversible" in your own criteria that you posted with your own hands.

But we know the outcome.
You are obviously Empty!

Felix are you dumb?
Definition is different from criteria maki chut.

superhumanist:
Sorry to butt in, sir.

How long can you keep this facade going on? No one comes back from brain death. Is it that hard to understand? Or must "irreversible" be written on a medical textbook before you understand?

I entered a discussion with some other christians here and I noticed that there is this tactic of "playing dumb" when facts are introduced.

Please I will advise you to try and maintain silence.
There are already well documented cases of Brain dead patients who came back to life miraculously.

But your dear criminal decided to insult his intelligence by saying the doctor "misdiagnosed" them.

I asked him how he confirmed the misdiagnosis.
he went missing.

But I sense u want to help him clean the mess

felixomor:
Please I will advise you to try and maintain silence.
There are already well documented cases of Brain dead patients who came back to life miraculously.

But your dear criminal decided to insult his intelligence by saying the doctor "misdiagnosed" them.

I asked him how he confirmed the misdiagnosis.
he went missing.

But I sense u want to help him clean the mess

Sir, I just regretted my decision to butt in.

Silence is the best answer to a

CatfishBilly:
Felix are you dumb?
Definition is different from criteria maki chut.

You have been exposed.
Dear Omnious Quack
So in your deluded logic
We can as well conclude that people who recovered from end stage cancer were also misdiagnosed
After all definition is now a criteria for confirming "misdiagnosis"
Even Cassano was "misdiagnosed" on his prognosis stroke

You see your dead logic?
What A shame!

superhumanist:
Sir, I just regretted my decision to butt in.

Silence is the best answer to a

So dear, maintain your silence
Even a fool is counted as wise when he does so

felixomor:
You have been exposed.
Dear Omnious Quack
So in your deluded logic
We can as well conclude that people who recovered from end stage cancer were also misdiagnosed
After all definition is now a criteria for confirming "misdiagnosis"
Even Cassano was "misdiagnosed" on his prognosis stroke

You see your dead logic?
What A shame?

People who recover from end stage cancer have a name attributed to the phenomena, it is called Spontaneous remission of cancer. With a pathophysiology behind it.
So, they weren't misdiagnosed, besides, cancer is not a clinical diagnosis there are too many diagnostic modalities that chance for errors are all but erased


People who recovered from brain death, what are they called? What's the pathophysiology behind it?


See your dead analogy?

At least you've been able to understand that definition is different from criteria. So I've not been wasting my time

superhumanist:
Sorry to butt in, sir.

How long can you keep this facade going on? No one comes back from brain death. Is it that hard to understand? Or must "irreversible" be written on a medical textbook before you understand?

I entered a discussion with some other christians here and I noticed that there is this tactic of "playing dumb" when facts are introduced.

Kindly shift and take several seats. Medical science has laid down procedures and they often expect that everything must align with these procedural outcomes. However, there are documented cases of people declared brain dead based on the very same medical procedures provided and who came back to life and regained if not all but most of their functions.

This is very embarrassing to medicine so they often sweep these occurrences as a misdiagnosis in order to save the face of medicine.

There have also been cases of instant remission from what doctors said could never happen based on their medical knowledge and expectations that all must align with medical laws and procedures but those also defied medicine and they also swept those aside as probable occurrences when medical procedures were first applied.

But the prognosis always comes back to bite them and prove them wrong so now for those they are scrambling to look for any possible medical explanation for them just to appear credible.

Even medical journals are studying several cases of brain death reversals or spontaneous remission which defied medicine and still have no answers.

If you would, could you tell me the procedures used to diagnose brain death?

If you are sincere and you actually understand those procedures and these procedures were fully followed during checks and tests of these patients and then they recovered suddenly from brain death, where then did misdiagnosis come in?

At what point is medicine honest and when is it a lie? They laid down the procedures and when such procedures are fully followed yet results go against such procedures they claim a misdiagnosis much like our herbal doctor.

CatfishBilly:
People who recover from end stage cancer have a name attributed to the phenomena, it is called Spontaneous remission of cancer. With a pathophysiology behind it.
So, they weren't misdiagnosed, besides, cancer is not a clinical diagnosis there are too many diagnostic modalities that chance for errors are all but erased

Please explain the pathophysiology

CatfishBilly:
People who recovered from brain death, what are they called? What's the pathophysiology behind it?

Oh so They have to be called a name?
What a joke!
You didn't know this when u claimed "He regained cortical function" (like a herbalist)
Besides you are the one who used to claim that things have to be discovered

CatfishBilly:
See your dead analogy?

Nah its your strategy of clutching straws that turned out dumb

CatfishBilly:
At least you've been able to understand that definition is different from criteria. So I've not been wasting my time

Keep quiet.
I was the one who just showed you that.

because according to you
"You knew it was misdiagnosed because the person came back to life"

Your blind hypocrisy keeps coming to hunt you

felixomor:
Please explain the pathophysiology



Oh so They have to be called a name?
What a joke!
You didn't know this when u claimed "He regained cortical function" (like a herbalist)
Besides you are the one who used to claim that things have to be discovered



Nah its your strategy of clutching straws that turned out dumb



Keep quiet.
I was the one who just showed you that.

because according to you
"You knew it was misdiagnosed because the person came back to life"

Your blind hypocrisy keeps coming to hunt you

Buahahahahahahaha our herbal doctor claims there is a pathophysiology associated with spontaneous remission.

We are about to witness a medical breakthrough moment. For the first time I will mention him even though I said I wouldn't

CATFISHBILLY OOOO WHAT IS THE PATHOPHYSIOLOGY BEHIND SPONTANEOUS REMISSION?

oya let's hear this medical breakthrough of yours.

butterflylion:
Buahahahahahahaha our herbal doctor claims there is a pathophysiology associated with spontaneous remission.

We are about to witness a medical breakthrough moment. For the first time I will mention him even though I said I wouldn't

CATFISHBILLY OOOO WHAT IS THE PATHOPHYSIOLOGY BEHIND SPONTANEOUS REMISSION?

oya let's hear this medical breakthrough of yours.

He will jump out of this question like a Frog.
He is a quack.
He will post unrelated assumption and claim he has answered the question.

felixomor:
He will jump out of this question like a Frog.
He is a quack.
He will post unrelated assumption and claim he has answered the question.

Hahahahahahahaha we are about to develop a drug that enables spontaneous remission to occur or a medical procedure that guarantees this occurrence curtsey of catfishbilly.

That guy must be a moronic genius!

felixomor:
He will jump out of this question like a Frog.
He is a quack.
He will post unrelated assumption and claim he has answered the question.

Yes it would be back to his medical journals all filled with assumptions which he would desperately try to push as medical fact.

butterflylion:
Hahahahahahahaha we are about to develop a drug that enables spontaneous remission to occur or a medical procedure that guarantees this occurrence curtsey of catfishbilly.

That guy must be a moronic genius!

Honestly!
The guy doesn't even know the meaning of medical terms

butterflylion:
Yes it would be back to his medical journals all filled with assumptions which he would desperately try to push as medical fact.

I am happy u now know his methods fully

felixomor:
I am happy u now know his methods fully

It did not take me long to know his modus operandi. He is extremely predictable. Right from the beginning of this thread all he has been doing is to make assumptions and declaring them as fact.

Up till now I have been waiting for his response to the question Eben Alexander asked Sam Harris and every other sceptical physician and I even posted same directly to him but he dodged it same way Sam Harris dodged it.

When it comes to giving direct answers he dodges but when it comes to giving assumptions and posting his journals he is first on the queue.

Guinea fowl forming peacock!

Felixomor and butterflylion, that you guys talk this way about Medical journals further goes to buttress my point on the theoretical physics and secondary School students analogy.

God, having your paper/research published in a medical journal is the Pinnacle of a doctor's career. That's how new information and breakthroughs in medicine is communicated to the entire medical community. It's not dropped in our hearts individually by the holy Spirit.

I feel terrible engaging you guys if you feel this way about Medical journals. The gulf of class between us is too huge that you could fit the Milky way in it.


If you want to know the pathophysiology of the remission, open another thread in the health section and I'll engage you at least my colleagues will be there to watch you two fools disgrace yourselves.


Fuckkking Medical illiterates dissing the lancet and new england Journal of Medicine. Werin person no go hear from these illiterates.

CatfishBilly:
Felixomor and butterflylion, that you guys talk this way about Medical journals further goes to buttress my point on the theoretical physics and secondary School students analogy.

God, having your paper/research published in a medical journal is the Pinnacle of a doctor's career. That's how new information and breakthroughs in medicine is communicated to the entire medical community. It's not dropped in our hearts individually by the holy Spirit.

I feel terrible engaging you guys if you feel this way about Medical journals. The gulf of class between us is too huge that you could fit the Milky way in it.


If you want to know the pathophysiology of the remission, open another thread and I'll engage you.


Fuckkking Medical illiterates dissing the lancet and new england Journal of Medicine. Werin person no go hear from these illiterates.

Keep shut please.
Explain pathophysiology. Simple.

CatfishBilly:
Felixomor and butterflylion, that you guys talk this way about Medical journals further goes to buttress my point on the theoretical physics and secondary School students analogy.

God, having your paper/research published in a medical journal is the Pinnacle of a doctor's career. That's how new information and breakthroughs in medicine is communicated to the entire medical community. It's not dropped in our hearts individually by the holy Spirit.

I feel terrible engaging you guys if you feel this way about Medical journals. The gulf of class between us is too huge that you could fit the Milky way in it.


If you want to know the pathophysiology of the remission, open another thread in the health section and I'll engage you at least my colleagues will be there to watch you two fools disgrace yourselves.


Fuckkking Medical illiterates dissing the lancet and new england Journal of Medicine. Werin person no go hear from these illiterates.

That thing called shame, you no get the nephew of am or the sister or brother how much more the main person called shame.

You are the one who said there is a pathophysiology to spontaneous remission and knowing that you would run to your journals just as you are already complaining up there Felixomor and I asked you for this ground breaking medical pathophysiology and instead of doing your normal copy and paste you are here shouting milky way and illiterate Upandan.

This is my thread so I give you permission to post this pathophysiology here and not on another thread.

Your herbal doctor claiming actual MD body odour no dey give you shame?

My intelligence and that of Felixomor are eons beyond yours obviously if all we have been doing on this thread have been giving you actual medical facts while you have been offering assumptions only.

Now you claim class? Do you even know what class looks or feels like? Are assumptions in the face of facts class? Are lies from you class? Are making up things as you went along class?

Even the milky way you mentioned would be ashamed to be associated with your sort. Just like the legal practice has charge and bail lawyers, in medicine your type are known as being medically questionable or medically ignorant.

Post your pathophysiology here make shame catch you now.

butterflylion:
That thing called shame, you no get the nephew of am or the sister or brother how much more the main person called shame.

You are the one who said there is a pathophysiology to spontaneous remission and knowing that you would run to your journals just as you are already complaining up there Felixomor and I asked you for this ground breaking medical pathophysiology and instead of doing your normal copy and paste you are here shouting milky way and illiterate Upandan.

This is my thread so I give you permission to post this pathophysiology here and not on another thread.

Your herbal doctor claiming actual MD body odour no dey give you shame?

My intelligence and that of Felixomor are eons beyond yours obviously if all we have been doing on this thread have been giving you actual medical facts while you have been offering assumptions only.

Now you claim class? Do you even know what class looks or feels like? Are assumptions in the face of facts class? Are lies from you class? Are making up things as you went along class?

Even the milky way you mentioned would be ashamed to be associated with your sort. Just like the legal practice has charge and bail lawyers, in medicine your type are known as being medically questionable.

Post your pathophysiology here make shame catch you now.

I really wonder if the guy is this shameless in real life.
It will be sad to behold

felixomor:
I really wonder if the guy is this shameless in real life.
It will be sad to behold

Shame denied him a long time ago. Even shame sabi people wey no deserve am.

butterflylion:
That thing called shame, you no get the nephew of am or the sister or brother how much more the main person called shame.

You are the one who said there is a pathophysiology to spontaneous remission and knowing that you would run to your journals just as you are already complaining up there Felixomor and I asked you for this ground breaking medical pathophysiology and instead of doing your normal copy and paste you are here shouting milky way and illiterate Upandan.

This is my thread so I give you permission to post this pathophysiology here and not on another thread.

Your herbal doctor claiming actual MD body odour no dey give you shame?

My intelligence and that of Felixomor are eons beyond yours obviously if all we have been doing on this thread have been giving you actual medical facts while you have been offering assumptions only.

Now you claim class? Do you even know what class looks or feels like? Are assumptions in the face of facts class? Are lies from you class? Are making up things as you went along class?

Even the milky way you mentioned would be ashamed to be associated with your sort. Just like the legal practice has charge and bail lawyers, in medicine your type are known as being medically questionable or medically ignorant.

Post your pathophysiology here make shame catch you now.

Young man, this is cold...

Ishilove:
Young man, this is cold...

The lying Imp brought it upon himself. I have no chill for anyone like him who feels funky while acting skunky.

You need to study this thread and all he has said then even you would wish I was icy cold on him and not just cold.

butterflylion:
The lying Imp brought it upon himself. I have no chill for anyone like him who feels funky while acting skunky.

You need to study this thread and all he has said then even you would wish I was icy cold on him and not just cold.

O boy see rhymes

felixomor:
The multiple electroencephalograms
Now show us where his result was shown as fake

From CT scans abi?

"Harris then goes on to carefully dissect Alexander’s claims, especially the assertion that his cerebral cortex was “shut down” or “inactivated.” His claim is not based on an fMRI or EEG or PET scan or any test that would tell if his cerebral cortex was inactive, but only CT scans, which tell you nothing about the activity within the cerebral cortex. If Alexander is such a great neurosurgeon, why doesn’t he know this?"

http://www.skeptic.com/insight/proof-of-heaven/

Ishilove:
O boy see rhymes

, butterflylion is brutal. Abasi mbok.

dalaman:
From CT scans abi?

"Harris then goes on to carefully dissect Alexander’s claims, especially the assertion that his cerebral cortex was “shut down” or “inactivated.” His claim is not based on an fMRI or EEG or PET scan or any test that would tell if his cerebral cortex was inactive, but only CT scans, which tell you nothing about the activity within the cerebral cortex. If Alexander is such a great neurosurgeon, why doesn’t he know this?"

http://www.skeptic.com/insight/proof-of-heaven/

You no go shut up? Did you see your mates here? This is not a cussing game, this is real intelligence.

LightandDarkness:
And you still have not answered if it is more likely Dr Alexander did have some neocortex activity or there is some spiritual memory system, because that is basically this man's argument, that memories that are not attached to the brain are possible. So I look forward to you proving this

There have been suggestions that organs may be able to store memories. Not really looked into it but this comes from patients who received transplants sometimes presenting with memories, skills etc possessed by the donor.

dalaman:
From CT scans abi?

"Harris then goes on to carefully dissect Alexander’s claims, especially the assertion that his cerebral cortex was “shut down” or “inactivated.” His claim is not based on an fMRI or EEG or PET scan or any test that would tell if his cerebral cortex was inactive, but only CT scans, which tell you nothing about the activity within the cerebral cortex. If Alexander is such a great neurosurgeon, why doesn’t he know this?"

http://www.skeptic.com/insight/proof-of-heaven/

Lmao
You are still quoting sam harris?
Already thrashed on the first page....

Harris even refused debate after he was exposed....

Any straws left?