mykl01:



Happens when judiciary is independent and DSS doesn't go breaking down Judges doors at dusk.
Good one Kenya.

Also happens when the foreign journos & Twitteratti are sufficiently biased towards one candidate and against another.

A number of handles on twitter urged Raila to stop whining, just shut up and let it go

mokaflex:
And IPAD keeps blaming bubu. I think Saraki is a bigger problem to Nigerians than buhari. Amend existing law nope, they want new SUV's. God punish devil and em children

Be deceiving yourself.How is Saraki Nigeria problem.. The problem of Nigeria is not lack of law but lack of good governance and proactive leadership. The senate lead by Olubukola Saraki is never the problem of this government. I think the executive need to look inward and inject into the system programs that will alleviate the suffering of the masses instead of always blaming the national assembly and the past govt for their inefficiency and lack of vision.

Kenya has given the rest of the African continent a reason to hope, and I'm hoping the Nigerian judiciary should take a cue from this fearless judgement. The Nigerian judiciary have a reputation for sitting on cases, especially cases that have to do with monumental corruption. Unfortunately, our judiciary is simply a reflection of the corrupt Nigerian electorate. If an incorruptible government focuses solely on the eradication of corruption in every sector of the Nigerian economy, true development will flow from there.

quiverfull:
I understand what the court is trying to achieve, but there will be more bloodshed in Kenya with this. At times, you allow illegalities to stand for a greater good.

Addendum: only God knows if Nigeria would have survived if our Supreme court had declared for Buhari one of those times he challenged PDP's victory in court.

you are on point bro, in buhari election against yaradua, the cjn averted evil by claiming his judgement is in the public interest, the ruling was already 3/3, his vote made it 4 against election cancelling.

They should have let the results be for national interest.

quiverfull:
I understand what the court is trying to achieve, but there will be more bloodshed in Kenya with this. At times, you allow illegalities to stand for a greater good.

Addendum: only God knows if Nigeria would have survived if our Supreme court had declared for Buhari one of those times he challenged PDP's victory in court.

Rubbish beer parlor talk. And you will say you get sense

quiverfull:
I understand what the court is trying to achieve, but there will be more bloodshed in Kenya with this. At times, you allow illegalities to stand for a greater good.

Addendum: only God knows if Nigeria would have survived if our Supreme court had declared for Buhari one of those times he challenged PDP's victory in court.

So o, in d next election again, illegality should reign supreme because of ur so called greater good. And election after that, same thing. Ok, wen will the truth stand. Na naija version u dey sell so

It can never happen in Nigeria!

paiz:
This is how a supreme court should act when neccessary, not the one we have here that corruption, bigotry and tribalism has infiltrated.
Nigeria is a joke

9jakohai:


Well

1.Kenya has less than 15 million people. NIgeria has more than 200million people. Evidence gathering re voter lists, etc can take time.

2.Before the election, the guy who was in charge of a vital department in the Kenya Election commission (IT dept) was found dead....brutally murdered. SO....there is some suspicion about that.

Bros, Kenya is far less than our population but certainly not 15million, you can always Google search.

bigpicture001 how did you arrive at that conclusion,sir? I guess your idea of "black" Africa is limited to Kenya,Nigeria,South Africa,Ghana and perhaps Benin Republic. I suspect you 're Kenyan. If not then,study your continent(especially the corruption index) properly instead of making careless statements.

three:


Also happens when the foreign journos & Twitteratti are sufficiently biased towards one candidate and against another.

A number of handles on twitter urged Raila to stop whining, just shut up and let it go

And those foreigner observers...always certifying every bloody election in Africa as free fair. Of what use are they to us any way? Well we know the truth. They can go on fooling themselves.

9jakohai:


Well

1.Kenya has less than 15 million people. NIgeria has more than 200million people. Evidence gathering re voter lists, etc can take time.

2.Before the election, the guy who was in charge of a vital department in the Kenya Election commission (IT dept) was found dead....brutally murdered. SO....there is some suspicion about that.

This can't explain why our Judiciary processes have to take forever

mansakhalifa:
bigpicture001 how did you arrive at that conclusion,sir? I guess your idea of "black" Africa is limited to Kenya,Nigeria,South Africa,Ghana and perhaps Benin Republic. I suspect you 're Kenyan. If not then,study your continent(especially the corruption index) properly instead of making careless statements.

...ma dear...I know abt africa very much as well as u do...am not a Kenyan at all.am.nigerian..coruption index by Wich many of you measure coruption perception is not a full xtrya of coruption in a country..coruption index measure most coruption incidence in govt circles..what abt informal coruption...believe me when I tell you..among black African Kenya is the least corupt...

What if he still wins the second time... Hope it will be accepted as a clear defeat, but obviously double expenses .this alone is even gonna heat up the polity in the country as odinga supporters will expect him to win, I just hope this doesn't lead to a national crisis in that country.....

Laredojohn:
What if he still wins the second time... Hope it will be accepted as a clear defeat, but obviously double expenses .this alone is even gonna heat up the polity in the country as odinga supporters will expect him to win, I just hope this doesn't lead to a national crisis in that country.....

The ruling by the courts was pathetic. It based it's argument on the transmission of results. As you know, not every part of the Nation has proper network. Since some text results didn't come to the portal with images of the forms, thats where the problem was. But even more disgusting is that these are not the results taht were used to declare the president. The results used were tallied manually. We are still waiting the judgement to be written.

This time, Uhuru will win with 65% + 1. This is a very pathetic ruling

alexistaiwo:
Another civil war loading

Kenya has never had a civil war.

This may be bitter but it's way to go, if it were in Nigeria,the court would be like, there were irregularities but not wide spread enough to affect the overall result.it's time we embrace complete electronic voting to avoid situations like this in Nigeria n Africa as a whole, thumbs up for the Kenyan court but I know if this happens in Nigeria baboons n dogs with gorillas will be floating in the sea of blood according to buhari.

quiverfull:
I understand what the court is trying to achieve, but there will be more bloodshed in Kenya with this. At times, you allow illegalities to stand for a greater good.

Addendum: only God knows if Nigeria would have survived if our Supreme court had declared for Buhari one of those times he challenged PDP's victory in court.

If you allow irregularities to stand today because of 100 lives, the day it will correct it will take 1000 lives.

There is no excuse for injustice.

quiverfull:
I understand what the court is trying to achieve, but there will be more bloodshed in Kenya with this. At times, you allow illegalities to stand for a greater good.

Addendum: only God knows if Nigeria would have survived if our Supreme court had declared for Buhari one of those times he challenged PDP's victory in court.

That's a very wring thoughts ur bringing up bro, A supreme court that spots massive irregularities n fraud in any election should cancel it irrespective of what might happen.

U can't set such a precedence for future elections, such a decision will cause even more death, chaos n possibly war in the future.

Kenyans are coming up but in Nigeria,our learned judges would have discern the mood of the polity and used their brain to do the needful so as to avoid disaster

Hbuyosh:
Kenya has never had a civil war.

Generally speaking Not talking about Kenya specifically

positivetaught:
This may be bitter but it's way to go, if it were in Nigeria,the court would be like, there were irregularities but not wide spread enough to affect the overall result.it's time we embrace complete electronic voting to avoid situations like this in Nigeria n Africa as a whole, thumbs up for the Kenyan court but I know if this happens in Nigeria baboons n dogs with gorillas will be floating in the sea of blood according to buhari.

Electronic Tallying was the source of all this nonsense. No Election will be perfect and the threshhold for overturning an election should be very high lest the people be disenfranchised. This will be the most ridiculed judgement by legal scolars. I can't believ the judges made such stupid rulings

Dissenting opinion by Justice Ojwang

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2rMMQJiqMB8empCZTNZTWRyTVk/view

SmallSimba:


The ruling by the courts was pathetic. It based it's argument on the transmission of results. As you know, not every part of the Nation has proper network. Since some text results didn't come to the portal with images of the forms, thats where the problem was. But even more disgusting is that these are not the results taht were used to declare the president. The results used were tallied manually. We are still waiting the judgement to be written.

This time, Uhuru will win with 65% + 1. This is a very pathetic ruling

Hmm the way odinga celebrates is as if the judge Says swear in odinga, it's clear there would be violence no matter who wins the re run,hope the AU is ready to solve the crises when it starts....

Laredojohn:

Hmm the way odinga celebrates is as if the judge Says swear in odinga, it's clear there would be violence no matter who wins the re run,hope the AU is ready to solve the crises when it starts....

They are ignorant, and there won't be violence. If Uhuru loses, theire won't be violence. That's why there is no violence. If it had been Raila who had lost, a few of his supporters would probably be dead now. However, come the November 1st, Uhuru will win and Raila supporters will cry foul about another rigging. A few will be shot dead if they chose to be violent, but it won't last more than 5 days.

AreaFada2:

Good day Areafada,

Can I PM you on an issue (different from the previous one)?

Gerrard59:


Good day Areafada,

Can I PM you on an issue (different from the previous one)?

Sure.

SmallSimba:


They are ignorant, and there won't be violence. If Uhuru loses, theire won't be violence. That's why there is no violence. If it had been Raila who had lost, a few of his supporters would probably be dead now. However, come the November 1st, Uhuru will win and Raila supporters will cry foul about another rigging. A few will be shot dead if they chose to be violent, but it won't last more than 5 days.

Kenya is the economic and political giant of East Africa. Political crisis there is bad for regional stability. With problems in South Sudan and Somalia.'
We can now begin to realise the crisis Jonathan saved us by not clinging on to power or even going to court.

Raila Odinga who has already been prime minister still does not want to shelve his ambition to be president. Gentlemen are few and far between in African politics. Perhaps that's why when we see one once in a blue moon we find it strange and chose to insult them. Like a prophet in his own land.

Because they do not conform to a very warped expectation that persists.

I said it that Kenya is ahead of Nigeria

AreaFada2:

Kenya is the economic and political giant of East Africa. Political crisis there is bad for regional stability. With problems in South Sudan and Somalia.'
We can now begin to realise the crisis Jonathan saved us by not clinging on to power or even going to court.

Raila Odinga who has already been prime minister still does not want to shelve his ambition to be president. Gentlemen are few and far between in African politics. Perhaps that's why when we see one once in a blue moon we find it strange and chose to insult them. Like a prophet in his own land.

Because they do not conform to a very warped expectation that persists.

What na? You mean they should allow rape of democracy to allow stability? How can there be political stability without justice?

If Kenyans want Odinga then so be it man... Heaven will not fall

SmallSimba:


They are ignorant, and there won't be violence. If Uhuru loses, theire won't be violence. That's why there is no violence. If it had been Raila who had lost, a few of his supporters would probably be dead now. However, come the November 1st, Uhuru will win and Raila supporters will cry foul about another rigging. A few will be shot dead if they chose to be violent, but it won't last more than 5 days.

It isn't about being ignorant, it is about getting justice. It doesn't matter whether or not the apex court declared Odinga as the lawful winner or called for a fresh election altogether Is immaterial. Whether Odinga wins the rerun or Kenyatta wins is also immaterial. We should be after justice irrespective of our individual sentiment.


The election was marred with irregularities.. That's a fact!!!

TonyeBarcanista:

It isn't about being ignorant, it is about getting justice. It doesn't matter whether or not the apex court declared Odinga as the lawful winner or called for a fresh election altogether Is immaterial. Whether Odinga wins the rerun or Kenyatta wins is also immaterial. We should be after justice irrespective of our individual sentiment.


The election was marred with irregularities.. That's a fact!!!

correct Tonye, it was shambolic in execution and spirit..
Dear SmallSimba Ps: The general outline of the decision by the CJ was given and a detailed one is sure to come. BTW the 2013 decision was scoriated around the world by legal scholars and thoroughly embarrassed the legal profession in Kenya, if not just for its sheer lack of jurisprudence, but for its lack of substance since it was long on procedure and short on the truth, which it also failed to acknowledge. That being said, its not about Raila (hate him/love him/neutral), its about the need for a free and fair process, which it wasn't. This will no doubt open the way for more petitions for other positions as well from governor to local reps. This is the beginning of the end of electoral authoritarianism in Africa. There are several places in Africa where open and serious electoral fraud takes place, Uganda and Zimbabwe come instantly to mind.