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EagleScribes:
I can't forget the tension of watching us play against them. #memories

But as it is now, Nigeria vs Cameroon has become one - sided like the el-classico �

naptu2:
This was before we had FIFA free days. Clubs were not obliged to release their players at that time, so it was a big risk for them to come and play for Nigeria. Therefore we often shuffled our team. You can see that Ricky (who was the highest goal scorer in Portugal before Yekini) played for us in the Ibadan leg of the encounter. Henry Nwosu also couldn't play in the Yaoundé leg because he didn't have the permission of his club Asec Mimosa. Yekini was playing for Africa Sports at that time.

naptu2:
This was before we had FIFA free days. Clubs were not obliged to release their players at that time, so it was a big risk for them to come and play for Nigeria. Therefore we often shuffled our team. You can see that Ricky (who was the highest goal scorer in Portugal before Yekini) played for us in the Ibadan leg of the encounter. Henry Nwosu also couldn't play in the Yaoundé leg because he didn't have the permission of his club Asec Mimosa. Yekini was playing for Africa Sports at that time.

1wolex85:
But how were the Camerounians able to do it? Their stars were present, from the Biyiks to Jacques Songo

naptu2:
Ghana-Nigeria 2000 Nations Cup Final (13 February 2000, National Stadium, Surulere, Lagos).

The 2000 Nations Cup was co-hosted by Ghana and Nigeria. Nigeria was just coming out of what was probably the best era in its football history in which it won the 1994 Nations Cup, qualified for its first and second World Cups and won the 1996 Olympics football tournament.

Cameroon had had its golden era in the 1980s, winning two Nations Cups and also reaching the quarterfinals of the 1990 World Cup, but it suffered a terrible slump after that and had a disgraceful appearance at the 1994 World Cup.

Note: Raphael Chukwu Ndukwe, who scored in this match, was one of the television commentators (summariser) during Nigeria’s last match against Cameroon in Uyo on September 1st 2017.

Samuel Eto’o gave Cameroon the lead in the 26th minute off a freekick and Patrick Mboma doubled the lead 31st minute. Chukwu Ndukwe scored for Nigeria just before half time and Jay Jay Okocha equalised for Nigeria at the beginning of the second half via a thunderous strike. It was 2-2 at the end of extra time and then came the penalty kicks.

Okocha and Godwin Okpara scored their penalties for Nigeria as did Patrick Mboma and Pierre Wome for Cameroon. Then Kanu missed his penalty and Geremi scored his. Ikpeba was adjudged to have missed his penalty, despite the fact that it actually crossed the line (Ikpeba didn’t help matters. He put his hand on his head as if he had missed). Marc Vivian Foe also missed his penalty.Oliseh scored and Rigobert Song also scored to give Cameroon their third Nations Cup victory. It ended

Nigeria 2-2 Cameroon (3-4 on penalties)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QuJiHtJLDA

Line Up

Nigeria

Ike Shorunmu (goalkeeper)

Godwin Okpara

Taribo West

Celestine Babayaro

Mutiu Adepoju

Jay Jay Okocha

Sunday Oliseh

Finidi George

Nwankwo Kanu

Raphael Chukwu

Furo Iyenemi

Substitutions

Julius Aghahowa for Raphael Chukwu
Tijana Babangida for Finidi George
Victor Ikpeba for Mutiu Adepoju

Cameroon

Boukar Alioum (goalkeeper)

Raymond Kalla

Pierre Njanka

Rigobert Song

Nlend Pierre Wome

Bissan Lauren

Salomon Olembe

Marc-Vivien Foe

Geremi

Samuel Eto'o

Patrick Mboma

Substitutions
Joseph-Desire Job for
Lucien Mettomo for Raymond Kalla

hoopLA:
Please read through my post and see what I said about the part i quoted.

You claimed the booing was as a result of the officiating.
I told you it stemmed from the semifinal encounter prior.
We both agreed the final had controversial officiating.

What's so hard?

1wolex85:
But how were the Camerounians able to do it? Their stars were present, from the Biyiks to Jacques Songo

naptu2:
They also had to rotate their players, it's just that they had a lot of very good players (e.g. goalkeepers like Antoine Bell, Jacques Song'o, Thomas N'kono, etc). They also had a lot of players that played in their local league.

naptu2:
I said that the Moroccans felt that Nigeria was being cheated and booed Cameroon and supported Nigeria. You said that that's not entirely correct. Therefore you are saying that the Moroccans did not feel that Nigeria was being cheated, or did not support Nigeria or boo Cameroon. That's different from saying, "in addition to that the Moroccans were aggrieved because of the earlier match".

hoopLA:
This part is not entirely true.

Cameroon had beaten the host country Morocco in the semi final. They had been too physical and the North Africans couldn't cope with the aggression displayed by their opponents. This made the fans unhappy with Cameroon especially since it seemed they were fouling the Moroccans to disrupt their fluid style of play, which eventually paid of as Cameroon frustrated the hosts till late in the game when they scored the winner.

Hence it was only natural the host fans supported Nigeria in the finals. They booed the Cameroon anthem when it was played from the start.

And while the refereeing appeared suspect, it only added to the animosity. We lost in part due to conservative tactics byManfred Hoener who kept attacking players on the bench for more workmanlike defensive players. After our first game we didn't score more than once in a game. I remember Cameroon actually dominated play in both games we faced them in the tournament. Same for Egypt and Algeria though we were down to 10 men for a while in that semi final

But well done all the same. These brought back memories

johnie:
Cameroun had the best set of keepers in Africa for a long time, starting with Nkono.

While our Okalla was very good, I think the other keeper close to the Camerounians was Zaki of Morocco.

hoopLA:
That is you concluding for me.

This is what I said:



Read the emboldened again.

I don't know how you arrived at your conclusion because I laid a premise for the Moroccan crowd supporting Nigeria from the start. I mentioned the crowd booing their national anthem. Was there any officiating done before the anthem that we aren't aware of?I went a step further to say that the officiating heightened the animosity towards the Cameroon players.
It's all there for you to see.

Because you want to pick an argument with me you have to force feed me with conclusions drawn that have almost no bearing to the topic.

Knock yourself out sir but don't conjecture scenarios that you imagine in your head. No one is faulting your write up. I'm only trying to add some clarity to the scenario you painted.

Jarus:
This was when Nations Cup was Nations cup, before exposure to European football dwindled Nigerians' interest in national team football.

Jarus:
Camerounian keepers get big clubs in Europe from the 80s till today.


The current first keeper of Ajax is also a Camerounian. Idris Kanemi has been one og the top keepers in La Liga for about 15 years.

Jarus:
Camerounian keepers get big clubs in Europe from the 80s till today.


The current first keeper of Ajax is also a Camerounian. Idris Kanemi has been one og the top keepers in La Liga for about 15 years.

naptu2:
You wrote That's not entirely true. What then is not true?

Of course I knew about the Morocco v Cameroon game but I left it out because that was not my focus. My focus was on the Nigeria v Cameroon match. The comment by the Moroccans that we were cheated was what I read in Complete Football at the time. Nowhere did I say that that was the only reason that they booed Cameroon, so what did I write that is "not entirely true"??

naptu2:
Ghana-Nigeria 2000 Nations Cup Final (13 February 2000, National Stadium, Surulere, Lagos).

The 2000 Nations Cup was co-hosted by Ghana and Nigeria. Nigeria was just coming out of what was probably the best era in its football history in which it won the 1994 Nations Cup, qualified for its first and second World Cups and won the 1996 Olympics football tournament.

Cameroon had had its golden era in the 1980s, winning two Nations Cups and also reaching the quarterfinals of the 1990 World Cup, but it suffered a terrible slump after that and had a disgraceful appearance at the 1994 World Cup.

Note: Raphael Chukwu Ndukwe, who scored in this match, was one of the television commentators (summariser) during Nigeria’s last match against Cameroon in Uyo on September 1st 2017.

Samuel Eto’o gave Cameroon the lead in the 26th minute off a freekick and Patrick Mboma doubled the lead 31st minute. Chukwu Ndukwe scored for Nigeria just before half time and Jay Jay Okocha equalised for Nigeria at the beginning of the second half via a thunderous strike. It was 2-2 at the end of extra time and then came the penalty kicks.

Okocha and Godwin Okpara scored their penalties for Nigeria as did Patrick Mboma and Pierre Wome for Cameroon. Then Kanu missed his penalty and Geremi scored his. Ikpeba was adjudged to have missed his penalty, despite the fact that it actually crossed the line (Ikpeba didn’t help matters. He put his hand on his head as if he had missed). Marc Vivian Foe also missed his penalty.Oliseh scored and Rigobert Song also scored to give Cameroon their third Nations Cup victory. It ended

Nigeria 2-2 Cameroon (3-4 on penalties)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QuJiHtJLDA

Line Up

Nigeria

Ike Shorunmu (goalkeeper)

Godwin Okpara

Taribo West

Celestine Babayaro

Mutiu Adepoju

Jay Jay Okocha

Sunday Oliseh

Finidi George

Nwankwo Kanu

Raphael Chukwu

Furo Iyenemi

Substitutions

Julius Aghahowa for Raphael Chukwu
Tijana Babangida for Finidi George
Victor Ikpeba for Mutiu Adepoju

Cameroon

Boukar Alioum (goalkeeper)

Raymond Kalla

Pierre Njanka

Rigobert Song

Nlend Pierre Wome

Bissan Lauren

Salomon Olembe

Marc-Vivien Foe

Geremi

Samuel Eto'o

Patrick Mboma

Substitutions
Joseph-Desire Job for
Lucien Mettomo for Raymond Kalla

hoopLA:
What is not entirely true is that the crowd were booing Cameroon as a result of the officiating.Regardless of where you got that info from.
Hence the back story.
If you change the narrative to suit your description then it is no longer credible. The focus is not the issue because you only intend to make your story sensational and appeal to emotions of those reading it but I'm calling you out on that.

You can avoid the semi final to make your story juicier but that isn't what happened. I'm here to stop you from spreading fables that sound nice but aren't true.


I'm tired of this unnecessary back and forth. If you want to choose which details to ignore it's up to you but those of us who recollect know that it is a stretch to say the booing arose from the officiating.

All these semantics aren't really necessary if you admit that you were aware of the semi final. The Moroccans were going to side Nigeria ab initio. And like I said, even though you refuse to accept it, the officiating only made the support for Nigeria more from the host fans.

Your source was a magazine you read. Yet you come here and try to dispute an opinion from someone who followed the competition.
Yit knew about the semi final yet you chose to take complete football's view instead of what you know. The same complete football that broke false news about Etim Esin failing a drug test in Lokeren in Belgium is who you are choosing to live and die by.

I'm not sure what this means to you. If you cannot take simple corrections or criticism then it's hard to accept that you are objective in the first place.

naptu2:
Tunisia 2004 Nations Cup Quarter Final (8 February 2004)

Samuel Eto’o scored for Cameroon off a fast break and Jay Jay Okocha equalised three minutes later from a fantastic freekick. And then there was a moment of magic.

Kanu Nwankwo got the ball in the middle of the park. The Cameroonians were confused because as soon as Kanu got the ball John Utaka ran to the right and Osaze Odemwingie, who had scored two goals against South Africa in the previous match, ran to the left. They didn’t know who to chase. Kanu chose to pass the ball to Utaka, who scored to give Nigeria victory. It ended

Nigeria 2-1 Cameroon
(Your summariser is Stephen Keshi)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMw_XBWBYMI

Line Up

Nigeria
Vincent Enyeama (goalkeeper)
Joseph Yobo
Isaac Okoronkwo
George Abbey
Ifeanyi Udeze
Nwankwo Kanu
Austin Okocha
Mr. Garba Lawal
Seyi Olofinjana
John Utaka
Peter Odemwingie

Substitutions
Joseph Enakhire for Kanu Nwankwo
Pius Ikedia for Peter Odemwingie


Cameroon
Idriss Carlos Kameni (goalkeeper)
Jean-Joel Perrier Doumbe
Bill Tchato
Rigobert Song
Lucien Mettomo
Timothee Atouba
Modeste Mbami
Geremi Njitap
Eric Djemba Djemba
Samuel Eto'o,
Patrick Mboma

Substitutions
Mohamadou Idrissou for Bill Tchatou
Pius Ndiefi for Patrick Mboma