₦airaland Forum

Develpeast:
What some people here are saying is pure false. Many people do not want identify with biafra because it is based utopia. A country where everything becomes wonderful and freedom is 100%. Many of these diaspora igbos are well schooled and you need a better argument than that. What I am saying is through critical research on the minds of the educated elites who are still watching from the sidelines. Igbos need to try as much as possible to engage the igbos who do not live in igboland. The present economic situation of the east doesnt look smart or nice for someone to move just like that. You will need to start telling yourselves the truth.

Like I said before now, biafra will be better if you start building it now because the vote in referendum might not really favour you if the diasporans decide to come vote against it for the fear of losing much of their assets. You need to start saying what they want to hear. engage them in the developmental process of the east, so that they can first expand their base to the east before moving fully to the east. You should not force them, it should be a natural process.

You are derailing

Develpeast:
I wanted to create a thread where every igbo will raise the igbo challenge and we will find solutions to it together. I will gather every problem and solution and send it to WIC, ohaneze ndigbo, many senators, governors and as much emails I can get. We love to walk on high heels not knowing that the ground is wet.

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The igbo problem is real, and in the next 20years, we might have people who identify with the igbo race.

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Alarmist crap.

TheCabal:
I think you lost ur brains. Easterners make all their money outside the east. The numbers bare it all.

For the answer to your question. Watch the video where Nnamdi solicited for guns and bullets.

And that sh!t about Ibo people being "republicans". .. from the way IPOB has enslaved the masses of the east.... it is highly improbable... they are most likely socialist... at least the easterners ibos are.

Please get off my mention, we are having intelligence discussion here..

SlayerForever:
To be honest I don't know what is causing this apathy to Igbo issues on the part of those born in lagos. While in Lagos,I wasn't the overly proud Igbo type I am now but I never looked down on my people. Never. Infact,I frowned at Yoruba behaviour and lifestyle,it was mostly bullshit to me. But about these bunch we're talking about here,these ones are something else. To be honest these ones are efulefu,no other way to put it. They carry Yoruba on the head,they denigrate the Igbo Nation etc. My brother I can only point the blaming finger at the parents of these people,I think they're not doing enough to enculture the kids with necessary tidbits to ensure the kids know who they are. Chineke nyelu anyi aka.

Nicely put, I would not put the whole blame on their parents, I think the major parts of the blames come from institutional systematic bias against the Igbo people.
Because northern Igbo and Igbo Americans are not guilty of this.

I think most igbos born in Lagos are suffering from inferiority complex in a different level, they can't compete with hardworking igbos who came from east, they resort to stereotype Yorubas have for igbos that igbos are greedy and are ritualist. I met most in school, their variation of intellect is speaking Yoruba among themselves.

First I thought that was confidence till I started moving along with them, I came to understand they lack the essentials of life which is cultural image. They are lost, not there, not here. I finally visited their abode in Lagos and my fear was confimed. It's not confidence but inferiority complex. Some of their family live below an average family in the East or below the socalled igbotic element they dissent . In the end I came to understand that igbos born and brought up in Lagos have all perfected the act of pretence/forming.

Am currently tutoring one why he should speak Igbo often to create an image for himself and people around him. The guy is very confused when I met him cos of the story they kept telling him about the east he has not visited. The little Igbo he knows he is ashamed to speak it but he is learning faster and i wish he learns more fast.

prodigy24:
You are right, but this is not the case. They have total disregard and poor knowledge of Igbo land and culture, far less than Igbo Americans and Igbo northerners..

yes.But,having travel to both west,north and east,i can dedude that their behavioural trait still differs."igbos" in the core north are not well groom into the system or environment as such they"cluster" into a particular geographical sphace only few live far away with its members in the core north, this was to give them "sense of belonging and sense of protections",unlike those in the "west" where they spread into the nooks and cranny of lagos.The disparity between these two settling arrangement also bring about different ways of perception and attitude.That's to say,the unified structure they have in north makes them developed that "we feelings"and better understang of the culture,than those of lagos.Flexibility and open mind is stil atributed to this set than those at home.My take

What you can do is to further intensify the telling them of rhetorics of how yorubas betrayed their forefathers in civil war and how are they not to be trusted.I'm very sure that they will change.

prodigy24:
Look, leave that side. Don't even defend these people, if they have actually seen or heard any version it would have been better, but they don't have at all. They are like lost sheep. What about Igbo diasporas, Igbo northerners, why are they not like lagosians? You are not getting my point. Its not about nnamdi KANU...it is has been there since.

The igbo northerners are not as cosmopolitan as their counterparts in the SW, you can't argue that. The SW igbos don't feel the kind of apprehension the Northern Igbos feel as they feel more secured and can factally express themselves way better than the northern ibos.

While the Norhern igbo are restricted in expressing themselves in the North for the sake of religion sensitivity to the way of life of the muslim north, the SW or igbo lagosians don't have such inhibitions.

Stop comparing the Lagos based Igbos that mostly work in big time and modern offices with sabo garri traders in the north...just stop already.

Meanwhile who is talking about Nnamdi Kanu? abi your eyes dey see other things?

prodigy24:
Nicely put, I would not put the whole blame on their parents, I think the major parts of the blames come from institutional systematic bias against the Igbo people.
Because northern Igbo and Igbo Americans are not guilty of this.

Who else is finding this distinction and dichotomy amusing and funny?

EMMAUGOH:
First I thought that was confidence till I started moving along with them, I came to understand they lack the essentials of life which is cultural image. They are lost, not there, not here. [/b]I finally visited their abode in Lagos and my fear was confimed. It's not confidence but inferiority complex. Some of their family live below an average family in the East or below the socalled igbotic element they dissent . In the end I came to understand that igbos born and brought up in Lagos have all perfected the act of pretence/forming.[b]

So finally una eyes don dey open.....uncle Shukwuma does not own any mansion in Lekki. He sells gala and pure water at iyana ipaja

walepackage:
yes.But,having travel to both west,north and east,i can dedude that their behavioural trait still differs."igbos" in the core north are not well groom into the system or environment as such they"cluster" into a particular geographical sphace only few live far away with its members in the core north, this was to give them "sense of belonging and sense of protections",unlike those in the "west" where they spread into the nooks and cranny of lagos.The disparity between these two settling arrangement also bring about different ways of perception and attitude.That's to say,the unified structure they have in north makes them developed that "we feelings"and better understang of the culture,than those of lagos.Flexibility and open mind is stil atributed to this set than those at home.My take

I sincerely respect your view ,its very clear, but there is a big difference here.
Let me use your analogy here, the Igbo in the north have the " we feeling " and understand the culture, what could be the reason for the Igbo in Lagos not to at least understand the culture and accord it the respect.
Ok you said they spread across Lagos, which is not enough reason. How about Igbo in America? They don't live in clustered pattern too. So it's not really anything serious..
it is very annoying seeing an adult of an Igbo extraction speak ill of the Igbo culture just to be seen as lasgidi. The show off is too much. They live the fake life that is very unfamiliar with Igbo people.

EzeCanada:
Lest I forget to mention that I commend your passion. Your observations as regards the attitude of Ndi Igbo resident in Lagos are valid. But then, this is also correct for all Igbos. For Igbo is Igbo and there is no such thing as Igbo Lagosian or what have you.

Just like the Igbos control the movie industry, the Yorubas on the other hands are masters of the media. You have to give it to them. They own and control influential media houses in Nigeria and use them to their astronomical advantage. Lagos is the operational base of majority of these media houses.

Therefore one could be right to say that the opinion, psychology and the thought processes -over the years- of majority of the Igbos resident in Lagos and other south west states are constantly being shaped by news/information emanating from these Yoruba owned media houses being the direct recipients.

Imagine the impact of being strategically fed with propaganda through out your life? You should then begin to see why I summerised it as a leadership failure from Igbo leaders.

Don't forget that these information from these media houses are basis for which social, political, cultural and economic debates and discussion are shaped.

Ever thought of the collosal impact the above mentioned points already fermented on the psyc of your "Igbo Logosians". What are young Igbo minds being fed daily by Yoruba controlled media, schools etc? Food for thoughts

Nwanne! Nara aka ato! Nna GI muru GI!
You have made a huge point! And let me add also that these things are all deliberate.
I was told by a Yoruba friend that, they ate raising a crop of Igbo extraction in Lagos that will deal with us. I did not understand what he meant in 2010. Now in seeing it.
I don't want to blame them for this, I'm only blaming our people for falling prey. Just recently,Gideon okeke said" fvcck Biafra " I was like, even If you don't support it, someone like that should not use the word to describe our collective history. Another artist of Igbo extraction said, who Igbo language help? These are the kind of behavior you will be getting from them.

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PentiumPro:
Who else is finding this distinction and dichotomy amusing and funny?

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What you don't know is bigger than you don't you think?
You don't know there are Igbo community in America that call themselves Igbo America abi? A simple Google would have given you a clue...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo_Americans

PentiumPro:
The igbo northerners are not as cosmopolitan as their counterparts in the SW, you can't argue that. The SW igbos don't feel the kind of apprehension the Northern Igbos feel as they feel more secured and can factally express themselves way better than the northern ibos.

While the Norhern igbo are restricted in expressing themselves in the North for the sake of religion sensitivity to the way of life of the muslim north, the SW or igbo lagosians don't have such inhibitions.

Stop comparing the Lagos based Igbos that mostly work in big time and modern offices with sabo garri traders in the north...just stop already.

Meanwhile who is talking about Nnamdi Kanu? abi your eyes dey see other things?

I don't know what your mission is, but I'm particularly worried about those so called lasgidi.. I'm not debating with you on the Igbo in the north and west. I'm saying the later have some of them that disrespect the Igbo culture.

Ndi Igbo need togetherness now more than ever. You need to find a way to embrace them while attempting to remove the foil from their eyes.

Your actions on this forum if properly harnessed could form a formidable and effective tool for empowerment.

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Basic123:
What you can do is to further intensify the telling them of rhetorics of how yorubas betrayed their forefathers in civil war and how are they not to be trusted.I'm very sure that they will change.

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Si eba puo...
You don't belong here...

prodigy24:
Look, leave that side. Don't even defend these people, if they have actually seen or heard any version it would have been better, but they don't have at all. They are like lost sheep. What about Igbo diasporas, Igbo northerners, why are they not like lagosians? You are not getting my point. Its not about nnamdi KANU...it is has been there since.

Hmm, I know your pains (even though I'm Yoruba) but really, something needs to change. What I observed is that the Igbo culture and attitudes towards material life is highly compensated for in Lagos than any other place in the world.
For American and overseas based Igbo's, there's the issue of color. That makes them come together. For other countries, they need a visa and they can't go to other countries easily. For Igbos in the North, they are together because of Northern madness in forms of riots and the likes. Plus, mostly, they are sometimes discriminated against heavily over there. So, they must 'be bonded' because they understand the threat.
However, even during the Civil War, Igbos were never discriminated against by Yorubas in Lagos. And there's really no real threats to Igbo's lives by Yoruba's. More so, whenever many SE based Igbos speaks against Yorubas (and in fact denigrate them), these folks wonder if you're referring to their childhood folks and present friends. To them, they see that the nets being casted on Yoruba's are tainted heavily by hatred than truth. Worst still, going home, they observe that moneybags are more celebrated back home, during festive seasons, than brotherhood. They have eyes to see that in Lagos, how much you've got isn't a problem as celebration of brotherliness (and paddy-paddy) and hence they wonder why you're viewing everything the way you are.
Brother, the issue is that Igbos based in Lagos have observed that the cohesion most Igbos uses to rally themselves round is hatred based. Since they have no such experiences of such hatred in Lagos, they suspect lies. And worst still, they always observe that 'home' belongs only to moneybags, hence they do not 'feel' home (or is the attitudes of those at home?) positively.

prodigy24:
I sincerely respect your view ,its very clear, but there is a big difference here.
Let me use your analogy here, the Igbo in the north have the " we feeling " and understand the culture, what could be the reason for the Igbo in Lagos not to at least understand the culture and accord it the respect.
Ok you said they spread across Lagos, which is not enough reason. How about Igbo in America? They don't live in clustered pattern too. So it's not really anything serious..
it is very annoying seeing an adult of an Igbo extraction speak ill of the Igbo culture just to be seen as lasgidi. The show off is too much. They live the fake life that is very unfamiliar with Igbo people.

i must tell you that this problem is not peculiar only with "igbos".Yorubas are also guilty of this,becose some see those "born and breed" outside the lagos shore or western state as naive or uncivilized compare to them.Its a general misconception held by many of those"lasgidi" dweller.

These are bullshit generalizations. I'd say Igbo behaviour, like any other tribe, depends a lot on orientation, education and social class. An Igbo trader in Lagos or Kano behaves just like an Igbo trader in Onitsha. I've had interactions with Alaba and Computer village traders that has me shaking my head in disbelief at how gullible some Igbo sons can be. I've met Igbo okada riders and danfo and Keke drivers in Lagos who are no different from their SE counterparts. An Igbo banker in Lagos would generally behave like an Igbo banker in Enugu. Lagos simply happens to have a disproportionate number of corporate professionals to any other area of the country and the general orientation of the cosmopolitan population is naturally different: and this applies to all tribes - not just Igbos.

honeychild:


So finally una eyes don dey open.....uncle Shukwuma does not own any mansion in Lekki. He sells gala and pure water at iyana ipaja

i pity yorouba like u

EMMAUGOH:
I think most igbos born in Lagos are suffering from inferiority complex in a different level, they can't compete with hardworking igbos who came from east, they resort to stereotype Yorubas have for igbos that igbos are greedy and are ritualist. I met most in school, their variation of intellect is speaking Yoruba among themselves.

First I thought that was confidence till I started moving along with them, I came to understand they lack the essentials of life which is cultural image. They are lost, not there, not here. I finally visited their abode in Lagos and my fear was confimed. It's not confidence but inferiority complex. Some of their family live below an average family in the East or below the socalled igbotic element they dissent . In the end I came to understand that igbos born and brought up in Lagos have all perfected the act of pretence/forming.

Am currently tutoring one why he should speak Igbo often to create an image for himself and people around him. The guy is very confused when I met him cos of the story they kept telling him about the east he has not visited. The little Igbo he knows he is ashamed to speak it but he is learning faster and i wish he learns more fast.

What is wrong for someone speaking a Language he or she understands if I may ask u? Hard working is relative OK! So don't generalize. If they are hard working what are they looking for in Lagos? They would have remained in the East and flourish very well. If eastern base Igbo's are so hard working why do we still have more poor once than the once that are rich? U detest Lagos born Igbo's because they decided to behave like people who are expose u call it forming. Mr it is u that is feeling inferior OK! They decide not to speak ur Igbo is it by force even if they are Igbo's is it a law they have violated ?

onyegwu:
What is wrong for someone speaking a Language he or she understands if I may ask u? Hard working is relative OK! So don't generalize. If they are hard working what are they looking for in Lagos? They would have remained in the East and flourish very well. If eastern base Igbo's are so hard working why do we still have more poor once than the once that are rich? U detest Lagos born Igbo's because they decided to behave like people who are expose u call it forming. Mr it is u that is feeling inferior OK! They decide not to speak ur Igbo is it by force even if they are Igbo's is it a law they have violated ?

This conversation is not for your type. I grew up outside Igbo land but never seen an efulefu like igbos born in Lagos with Yoruba mentality.

EMMAUGOH:
This conversation is not for your type. I grew up outside Igbo land but never seen an efulefu like igbos born in Lagos with Yoruba mentality.

Are u better than Yorubas ? U guys can never engage in any form of discussion without insults that's the kind of life u want people to emulate in order for them to be more Igbo wholesome. People who do not reason before they make utterances. U feel superior yet u will leave ur east and head straight to Yoruba Land Lagos for greener pastures yet u despise them. U people ought to be ashamed of u lot. If u grew up outside Igbo land and refuse to be enlightened whose fault is it? Continue creating enemies for ur self let's see where it will take u to. U see people claiming they went to school but u can never see intellect been put to use when the occasion arises. In 2017 someone who claim to be educated is still saying Yoruba this Yoruba that in this time and age then what's the impact of the school?

PentiumPro:
The so called Lagosian igbos have heard the different sides of the stories about Nigeria and have had long contact with other Nigerians to understand the different shades and nuances that make up this awesome and complex country, and that we all have common enemies that are majorly the elites from all Nigeria tribes without exception

On the other hand, the igbotic home grown and based igbos have not been able to understand Nigeria above what they are told by their parents and uncles. They see an average other Nigerian tribe as part of their own problem and a reason why he or she is still a failure at over 30 yrs without anyhing tangible to point to as achievement outside the igbotic achieved Bsc

The best comment so far.

Olabestonic001:
Hmm, I know your pains (even though I'm Yoruba) but really, something needs to change. What I observed is that the Igbo culture and attitudes towards material life is highly compensated for in Lagos than any other place in the world.
For American and overseas based Igbo's, there's the issue of color. That makes them come together. For other countries, they need a visa and they can't go to other countries easily. For Igbos in the North, they are together because of Northern madness in forms of riots and the likes. Plus, mostly, they are sometimes discriminated against heavily over there. So, they must 'be bonded' because they understand the threat.
However, even during the Civil War, Igbos were never discriminated against by Yorubas in Lagos. And there's really no real threats to Igbo's lives by Yoruba's. More so, whenever many SE based Igbos speaks against Yorubas (and in fact denigrate them), these folks wonder if you're referring to their childhood folks and present friends. To them, they see that the nets being casted on Yoruba's are tainted heavily by hatred than truth. Worst still, going home, they observe that moneybags are more celebrated back home, during festive seasons, than brotherhood. They have eyes to see that in Lagos, how much you've got isn't a problem as celebration of brotherliness (and paddy-paddy) and hence they wonder why you're viewing everything the way you are.
Brother, the issue is that Igbos based in Lagos have observed that the cohesion most Igbos uses to rally themselves round is hatred based. Since they have no such experiences of such hatred in Lagos, they suspect lies. And worst still, they always observe that 'home' belongs only to moneybags, hence they do not 'feel' home (or is the attitudes of those at home?) positively.

Even though I dnt quite agree wit all u said,u raised some good n vital points.

prodigy24:
I sincerely respect your view ,its very clear, but there is a big difference here.
Let me use your analogy here, the Igbo in the north have the " we feeling " and understand the culture, what could be the reason for the Igbo in Lagos not to at least understand the culture and accord it the respect.
Ok you said they spread across Lagos, which is not enough reason. How about Igbo in America? They don't live in clustered pattern too. So it's not really anything serious..
it is very annoying seeing an adult of an Igbo extraction speak ill of the Igbo culture just to be seen as lasgidi. The show off is too much. They live the fake life that is very unfamiliar with Igbo people.

Let me come in here, the igbos in the SW region like he rightly said are more free to express themselves and interact with the locals while igbos residing in the predominantly Islamic north are homogeneous due to the contraption of religion and history. I as a person have an igbo man as a father, though am a Yoruba and I so much which to learn the igbo language, even my step siblings don't understand talkless of speaking it. I have so many igbos as friends who feel safe with me and are proud of being an ibo, the Yoruba locals here respect them for their industrious abilities and are even jealous. As per The issue you raiseed about igbos in Lagos, they are not to be blamed at all for such behavior, instead the blame should be on the society where they'v found themselves because if you should replace those same ibos with the ones in the north or America or other places, they would still all act thesame. Such attitude is common, even among Yorubas, an instance is an oyo man who won't even regard or count an ilaje man from ondo state full yoruba due to difference in the youruba tongue. You can't expect them ( Lagos based igbos and north based igbos) to be equal as per knowledge because of the environment and society where they developed. A johny just come from the east would at first see as alien the practice and attitude of the Lagos igbo before he himself will be immersed totally into thesame society. Finally, eastern based igbos should free their mind and shouldn't be expectant of their fellow igbos in other lands to be on thesame level of cultural knowledge as them and they should stop that myopic veiw amongst them about the Yoruba people. Tnx.

prodigy24:
I don't know what your mission is, but I'm particularly worried about those so called lasgidi.. I'm not debating with you on the Igbo in the north and west. I'm saying the later have some of them that disrespect the Igbo culture.

Why should you expect someone who hasn't visited his or her mother land for years to have the slightest knowledge about your traditions and culture talkless of respecting it?.....the best you can do is to bring the so called culture to them and persuade them to accepting it and that is if the accommodating community and society would allow you to.

Olabestonic001:
Hmm, I know your pains (even though I'm Yoruba) but really, something needs to change. What I observed is that the Igbo culture and attitudes towards material life is highly compensated for in Lagos than any other place in the world.
For American and overseas based Igbo's, there's the issue of color. That makes them come together. For other countries, they need a visa and they can't go to other countries easily. For Igbos in the North, they are together because of Northern madness in forms of riots and the likes. Plus, mostly, they are sometimes discriminated against heavily over there. So, they must 'be bonded' because they understand the threat.
However, even during the Civil War, Igbos were never discriminated against by Yorubas in Lagos. And there's really no real threats to Igbo's lives by Yoruba's. More so, whenever many SE based Igbos speaks against Yorubas (and in fact denigrate them), these folks wonder if you're referring to their childhood folks and present friends. To them, they see that the nets being casted on Yoruba's are tainted heavily by hatred than truth. Worst still, going home, they observe that moneybags are more celebrated back home, during festive seasons, than brotherhood. They have eyes to see that in Lagos, how much you've got isn't a problem as celebration of brotherliness (and paddy-paddy) and hence they wonder why you're viewing everything the way you are.
Brother, the issue is that Igbos based in Lagos have observed that the cohesion most Igbos uses to rally themselves round is hatred based. Since they have no such experiences of such hatred in Lagos, they suspect lies. And worst still, they always observe that 'home' belongs only to moneybags, hence they do not 'feel' home (or is the attitudes of those at home?) positively.

Igbos are not the only people of colour in America, so the issue of Igbos banding together in America because of colour sounds irrational.
The Igbos in America and diaspora are more enlightened and exposed, they have a better balance view of how functional societies work and frameworks upon which the efficiency of those functional societies are built on and therefore are more likely to rationally dissect and realize that Nigeria as a colonial entity will never cease being a third world country, than an average Igbo lagosian who had been fed with endless one sided propaganda of the civil war by Yoruba media and friends, so much that many of them had developed a chronic form of self hate and need to be in good books of their Yoruba friends and associates.
The end result is that these confused set of Igbos see the world through a Yorubatic lens, and end up having an Igbophobic default setting that often leads to them taking an Igbophobic stand on most issues of national discuss.

IPOB have strong membership amongst diaspora Igbos in North America, Europe and Asia.


The North have no strong propaganda machine. They don't care about propaganda like Yorubas,they are not cunning too, they don't try to hide their Igbophobia like Yorubas do , the average Igbo in North is continually exposed to anti Christianity cum anti Igbo stand of the North, he sees the horror his parents told him that happened in 60s ,in the North everyday, he is constantly being forced to come to terms with the truth. This translates to them being strongly Igbophilic in outlook.

Igbos were discriminated in Lagos and Yorubaland during the war, the Igbo intellectuals in Ibadan soon found out that the place was no longer safe for them, and they had to flee home to the East , it was a moment of truth and understanding for most of them.
The Oba Lil Wayne recently threatened Ndiigbo in SW. What happens with Igbos in SW, is that their inferiority complex driven desire to be accepted as "lagosians" by Yorubas, constantly means that they must display typical Yorubatic Igbophobia towards their fellow Igbos, in futile attempt to gain acceptance. It's akin to the slave camps, where blacks appointed as slave leaders by white masters had to show more cruelty to their fellow blacks in desperate attempt to gain acceptance from white slave masters.
When you see these Lagos Igbos in the Eastern universities, they speak Yoruba amongst themselves, and speak English with irritating, ear aching Yorubatic accent with too many use of Yoruba words like "shey" "abi ", "Kilode ", "Olorunmaje ", "Ema binu " , etc yet they pretend to be irritated that you speak Igbotic English. Many of them can't speak Igbo language. They all suffer from deep seated inferiority complex.

They had all been fed with Igbophobic stories by their Yoruba friends all their lives, that they had concluded that Igbos are bad people, and when you attempt to correct them and tell them your own version of the story, they get upset and accuse you of being hateful.
They in their stupidity don't consider their Yoruba friends and society that ended up making them hate their own people by filling them with Igbophobic stories, hateful, but they consider a fellow Igbo trying to put up a defense against Yorubas Igbo hating propaganda that they had been fed with since birth , hateful. Such is the level of their mental slavery.


NB: Not all Igbos born and raised in Lagos behave this way. My best friend in my University early days was an Aro guy who was born and raised in Lagos, and he spoke flawless Igbo Izugbe, and has a perfect Igbophilic view of the world. His parents did a wonderful job.
The issue of Igbo lagosians, is an issue of poor parenting mostly and other variable factors.

And by the way, the propaganda that only low class or poorly educated Igbos support or sympathize with Biafra, as propagated by Igbo pseudo intellectuals who seek to promote Nigeria unity for whatever reason known to them is irrational and lacking in substance.

Chinua Achebe was the Igbo foremost globally renowned Igbo intellectual. He was alive during Uwazuruike struggles with Nigeria, and he never for once condemned Uwazuruike or Biafrans.

What's more, he left us with a book that would help us keep the Biafran spirit and hunger alive, as his last parting gift, before he was committed to Ani, the Earth goddess.
I strongly believed that Achebe died a Biafran at heart. He also continuously rejected all awards from Nigerian governments.

I would say this as someone who in the past fell under the same the description of the "LagosIan igbo" excluding the boosting and forming nonsense. Although i was not born and raised in Lagos Thank God, In the past, I would consider my opinion of Igbos as exactly what pazienza described it "igbophobic". In the past I used to accused igbos as having a persecution complex; I was one of the biggest antagonist towards massob; I used to denigrate igbos, join other "pro-nigeria" to mock and insult igbo community which today I'm ashamed of and wonder the level of stupidity and low self esteem I had. Nowadays I realized that every insult and degradation I gave towards igbos was something fed to me by the Nigerian environment.

OP you say you don't understand how the Igbo Americans exhibit more igbo pride than the ones born and raised in Lagos especially since the LagosIan born igbo are closer to core igbo than the American born igbo. I think two of the commenter hit it right in the head with their answer. It's matter of Psychology. The Nigerian environment or rather the Yoruba controlled media since the misery of this country existence have done nothing but denigerate igbos and try every way, shape or form to destroy igbo reputation. The media controls the psyche/opinion people have of a group. For example: world wide the opinion of African Americans are negative. Why? Because in the media they are portrayed as thugs, criminals, among other things while their females are protrayed as sluts, trashy, ghetto. Even within the American community, the media has morphed the mind of its citizens that anything good is white and anything bad is blacks/Latinos that even within that country black Americans have the least favorable opinions of non blacks. Even Africans in America carry that opinion of them based solely on how the black Americans are portrayed. Those of us, non black Americans, that lived and grew up around them see the real image of black Americans that yes they have the ghetto, thuggish set but even within those ghetto there are multitudes that aren't anything like what the media portrays. Meaning we see the real image of African Americans, not what the media protrays. But in the African American community, they have what they call "coons". The coons are usually black Americans who denigerate their own community, belittled their own people and sees nothing good within the African American community despite being African-Americans themselves. Majority, not all, of the coons in America are either raised in a white family (adopted) or white dominated neighborhood and went to predominately white dominated schools.

Now why am I talking about AA? What you all just described about the igbo born and raised in LAGOS is the same exact sceanario. The coons within the African American community are raised within the community who have hatred towards black Americans and long since been trying to destroy that community anyway they can. All those coons are segerated from their people so the images/opinions/stories of their people they get is that of the whites. Therefore, creating a self hatred amongst them in which they manifest towards their own people in effort to get accepted and prove they are better than the image being protrayed. The same with igbos in Lagos. They are flat out in a community that despise igbos and segregated from their own community therefore the images/opinions/stories they get is that of the yoruba thus, creating a self hatred in which they manifest to other igbos in order to get that "you're enlightened igbo nigerian" acceptance from the yoruba and the so called "one Nigeria".

Now before you say that the scenario are not the same..ask yourself this. The description I just gave you on how the American media protray AA men and women is it not the same as the description the yoruba control media protray igbo men and women? Let's use Evans for example. Recall when he was caught, please inform me again, was there not overly excessive media coverage of him? I don't even live in Nigeria and I literally saw the glimpse of the overly excessive coverage on FB. The amount of media coverage I kept seeing getting circulated was ridiculous. I said if it was that much on FB imagine the amount it was down there in Nigeria. Now when the Badoo gangs were caught, did they get the same media coverage despite their act was in my opinion worse? Heck nairaland is a perfect example of what I speak. Drug trafficking articles are bumped up and plasted on FP compared to ritualism articles even though there are more ritualistic articles posted on NL. Hell the video of Nnamdi Kanu supposedly calling igbo prostitute was rushed to the front page. The ones of adeyinka grandson calling yoruba women prostitutes was deleted. Since I thought it was prejudice of them closing it, I reopened the thread and yet again it was deleted and I was banned. Which equally tells me the first person that brought that post here and his thread was deleted was very likely banned as well. Another example; i know exactly why Nigeria is hated world wide. I live aboard and I've heard it directly from the mouth of many. Nigerians are hated for 1.) Their boastful nature and 2.) The biggest reason 419/scam. You're hated in Asia and SA for drug trafficking but everywhere else you're hated for scams. Which group dominate drug trafficking and which group dominate 419? Now ask yourself which crime is the one being protrayed as why you're hated by your media. Heck I bet you none of you lots are aware that your SE have actually the least crime rate in that your country. Infact an independent, non bias as in non Nigerian, company by the name of CLEEN did a study using data from your own government but when your media reported their findings guess what was reported. The only area where SE or rather Enugu scored highest. When the study results were posted on this forum, all the threads were removed. The one I opened on it, it's still open but most of the images not showing anymore. The beauty of it is that it is on Google now so even hidden here, it's not there.
Another thing I bet you very few of una are aware there were more yoruba on FBI most wanted list than igbo but guess who was circulated all over the media of that country? The igbo that made the last. Infact I created a topic on this exact thing and it was ignored.

Why was that so effective? Simple. The removal of history. Take it from me my eyes opened and I saw my earlier past behavior as despicable and a disgraceful when I started reading Nigerian history and definitely the Biafra war history. Our people are clueless on their history thus makes it easier for someone to give them false statements/opinion and they suck it in hook, line and sinker to prove they are "one Nigeria."
Like let's use for example: the statement "igbos are not united", there were less internal conflict in igbo history compared to the other 2 big tribes of Nigeria. Likewise, there are less political thuggish behavior as well as assassination compared to well one tribe. Yet who get the statement "not united". Now ask yourself? How many Igbos now echo that statement?

The igbo in America although are similar to igbo in Lagos in terms of igbo culture and language, the reason they are so proud igbo and would knock out the teeth of anyone that denigerate igbo is because unlike the igbo in Lagos, they are not around Nigeria media. Very few of them follow anything happening in Nigeria thus that psychological warfare isn't happen thus, no self hatred. That's why igbos in diaspora are pro biafra and pro Nnamdi kanu. Infact I went to an igbo event for youths and the entire discussion was about biafra despite the fact the reaaon for event was not even supposed to be about biafra.

Don't get me wrong I don't blame yoruba for it. I mean hey they control the news of that country so obviously they'll use it for their advantage. So you can't blame them for that. I blame the parents of those igbo Lagos. They allowed their defeatist attitude give leeway for self hatred amongst their children. Like I always said I personally personally believe biafra history and Nigeria history should be mandatory for every igbo child. When their eyes are open, what you see and complain about won't be there. Heck if not I just read the igbos in Lagos speaks yoruba, I would have never known that. I've met several here that were born and raised in Lagos and I've never heard them speak yoruba even amongst themselves. Some are even part of Biafra supporting groups here. Rather than pitying and looking at them is disgrace, you should educate. That's all you need to do is start educating them. You fight psychology with psychology, not disdain

Ikechuob:
I would say this as someone who in the past fell under the same the description of the "LagosIan igbo" excluding the boosting and forming nonsense. Although i was not born and raised in Lagos Thank God, In the past, I would consider my opinion of Igbos as exactly what pazienza described it "igbophobic". In the past I used to accused igbos as having a persecution complex; I was one of the biggest antagonist towards massob; I used to denigrate igbos, join other "pro-nigeria" to mock and insult igbo community which today I'm ashamed of and wonder the level of stupidity and low self esteem I had. Nowadays I realized that every insult and degradation I gave towards igbos was something fed to me by the Nigerian environment.

OP you say you don't understand how the Igbo Americans exhibit more igbo pride than the ones born and raised in Lagos especially since the LagosIan born igbo are closer to core igbo than the American born igbo. I think two of the commenter hit it right in the head with their answer. It's matter of Psychology. The Nigerian environment or rather the Yoruba controlled media since the misery of this country existence have done nothing but denigerate igbos and try every way, shape or form to destroy igbo reputation. The media controls the psyche/opinion people have of a group. For example: world wide the opinion of African Americans are negative. Why? Because in the media they are portrayed as thugs, criminals, among other things while their females are protrayed as sluts, trashy, ghetto. Even within the American community, the media has morphed the mind of its citizens that anything good is white and anything bad is blacks/Latinos that even within that country black Americans have the least favorable opinions of non blacks. Even Africans in America carry that opinion of them based solely on how the black Americans are portrayed. Those of us, non black Americans, that lived and grew up around them see the real image of black Americans that yes they have the ghetto, thuggish set but even within those ghetto there are multitudes that aren't anything like what the media portrays. Meaning we see the real image of African Americans, not what the media protrays. But in the African American community, they have what they call "coons". The coons are usually black Americans who denigerate their own community, belittled their own people and sees nothing good within the African American community despite being African-Americans themselves. Majority, not all, of the coons in America are either raised in a white family (adopted) or white dominated neighborhood and went to predominately white dominated schools.

Now why am I talking about AA? What you all just described about the igbo born and raised in LAGOS is the same exact sceanario. The coons within the African American community are raised within the community who have hatred towards black Americans and long since been trying to destroy that community anyway they can. All those coons are segerated from their people so the images/opinions/stories of their people they get is that of the whites. Therefore, creating a self hatred amongst them in which they manifest towards their own people in effort to get accepted and prove they are better than the image being protrayed. The same with igbos in Lagos. They are flat out in a community that despise igbos and segregated from their own community therefore the images/opinions/stories they get is that of the yoruba thus, creating a self hatred in which they manifest to other igbos in order to get that "you're enlightened igbo nigerian" acceptance from the yoruba and the so called "one Nigeria".

Now before you say that the scenario are not the same..ask yourself this. The description I just gave you on how the American media protray AA men and women is it not the same as the description the yoruba control media protray igbo men and women? Let's use Evans for example. Recall when he was caught, please inform me again, was there not overly excessive media coverage of him? I don't even live in Nigeria and I literally saw the glimpse of the overly excessive coverage on FB. The amount of media coverage I kept seeing getting circulated was ridiculous. I said if it was that much on FB imagine the amount it was down there in Nigeria. Now when the Badoo gangs were caught, did they get the same media coverage despite their act was in my opinion worse? Heck nairaland is a perfect example of what I speak. Drug trafficking articles are bumped up and plasted on FP compared to ritualism articles even though there are more ritualistic articles posted on NL. Hell the video of Nnamdi Kanu supposedly calling igbo prostitute was rushed to the front page. The ones of adeyinka grandson calling yoruba women prostitutes was deleted. Since I thought it was prejudice of them closing it, I reopened the thread and yet again it was deleted and I was banned. Which equally tells me the first person that brought that post here and his thread was deleted was very likely banned as well. Another example; i know exactly why Nigeria is hated world wide. I live aboard and I've heard it directly from the mouth of many. Nigerians are hated for 1.) Their boastful nature and 2.) The biggest reason 419/scam. You're hated in Asia and SA for drug trafficking but everywhere else you're hated for scams. Which group dominate drug trafficking and which group dominate 419? Now ask yourself which crime is the one being protrayed as why you're hated by your media. Heck I bet you none of you lots are aware that your SE have actually the least crime rate in that your country. Infact an independent, non bias as in non Nigerian, company by the name of CLEEN did a study using data from your own government but when your media reported their findings guess what was reported. The only area where SE or rather Enugu scored highest. When the study results were posted on this forum, all the threads were removed. The one I opened on it, it's still open but most of the images not showing anymore. The beauty of it is that it is on Google now so even hidden here, it's not there.
Another thing I bet you very few of una are aware there were more yoruba on FBI most wanted list than igbo but guess who was circulated all over the media of that country? The igbo that made the last. Infact I created a topic on this exact thing and it was ignored.

Why was that so effective? Simple. The removal of history. Take it from me my eyes opened and I saw my earlier past behavior as despicable and a disgraceful when I started reading Nigerian history and definitely the Biafra war history. Our people are clueless on their history thus makes it easier for someone to give them false statements/opinion and they suck it in hook, line and sinker to prove they are "one Nigeria."
Like let's use for example: the statement "igbos are not united", there were less internal conflict in igbo history compared to the other 2 big tribes of Nigeria. Likewise, there are less political thuggish behavior as well as assassination compared to well one tribe. Yet who get the statement "not united". Now ask yourself? How many Igbos now echo that statement?

The igbo in America although are similar to igbo in Lagos in terms of igbo culture and language, the reason they are so proud igbo and would knock out the teeth of anyone that denigerate igbo is because unlike the igbo in Lagos, they are not around Nigeria media. Very few of them follow anything happening in Nigeria thus that psychological warfare isn't happen thus, no self hatred. That's why igbos in diaspora are pro biafra and pro Nnamdi kanu. Infact I went to an igbo event for youths and the entire discussion was about biafra despite the fact the reaaon for event was not even supposed to be about biafra.

Don't get me wrong I don't blame yoruba for it. I mean hey they control the news of that country so obviously they'll use it for their advantage. So you can't blame them for that. I blame the parents of those igbo Lagos. They allowed their defeatist attitude give leeway for self hatred amongst their children. Like I always said I personally personally believe biafra history and Nigeria history should be mandatory for every igbo child. When their eyes are open, what you see and complain about won't be there. Heck if not I just read the igbos in Lagos speaks yoruba, I would have never known that. I've met several here that were born and raised in Lagos and I've never heard them speak yoruba even amongst themselves. Some are even part of Biafra supporting groups here. Rather than pitying and looking at them is disgrace, you should educate. That's all you need to do is start educating them. You fight psychology with psychology, not disdain

God bless you.