PentiumPro:
The so called Lagosian igbos have heard the different sides of the stories about Nigeria and have had long contact with other Nigerians to under the different shades and nuances that make up this awesome and complex country, and that we all have common enemies that are majorly the elites from all Nigeria tribes without exception

On the other the igbotic home grown and based igbos have not been able to understand Nigeria above what they are told by their parents and uncles. They see an average other Nigerian as part of their own problem and a reason why he or she is still a failure at over 30 yrs without anyyhing tangible to point to as achievement outside the igbotic achieved Bsc

prodigy24:


[s]First of all I want to thank you for your sincere opinion.
However, I was very careful that is why I did not generalise. I used the word
"Some" so you are out of the list.
I grew up in Lagos with my parents, though I was not born there. I have many cousin who grew up there too, and when you hear them talk,You spit. Honestly its disheartening, the Igbo Americans are very Igbo to the core, you need to see igbofest and some other programs being organized by young people of Igbo extraction in American. They pride themselves as Igbo America. They wear it like crown. Example Jidenna, look at that young man, he carries Igbo on head like gala. Compare him with Lagos born artists like Gideon okeke, samklef and DJ zeez. These three persons s are Igbo born with no respect for Igbo culture. They are very despicable.

Then, to those points you raised.
1. Yes Igbo people are very Republican in nature.

2. There are divergent opinions in the East. It is very healthy if you ask me. I don't really like the herds mentality. It encourages incompetence.
3. Yes, very true, it is very healthy. But you will agree with me that,these people may differ but only on methodology of Nnamdi KANU. They will never insult the
Igbo people and its culture in any way..

But I don't want to centre this discussion on nnamdi KANU. Let us focus on the topic.
4. Lagos is, but it doesn't explain why they chose to be ignorant and silly. I went to secondary school in Lagos, and university in the East. I have the first hand information on what I'm saying. I met these so called lasgidis in school, their reasoning was very uncultured and annoying. They prefer speaking Yoruba to Igbo. I picked a fight with them occasionally. I exposed and shredded them. That they became very ashamed of themselves. They would think they are better than Eastern Igbo, they will be quick to label someone igbotic. In fact I took it very personal if I hear someone say igbotic in derogatory way back then in school.
5. No, their own divergent opinion is always laced with staggering ignorance! They don't know what Nigeria is. To them they are being carried away with what they see on the screen.
6. We may have not had the kind of leadership we deserve, but remember. Most of our leaders are suffering from defeatism. They were humiliated during the war. So I'm not counting on them again.

We are the one that will produce the renowned leader we are seeking for, and that's why Nnamdi a British Igbo had to step up. Many will follow too.

However, What I am saying has nothing to do with leadership. It is the attitude of some of our people born and brought up in Lagos. How about Igbo Americans that have been very formidable? Who is mentoring them?
7.
Yes, you have actually given me the excuses, on why they are very problematic and ignorant.
Igbo lagosians like you need to do more to save this trend. It is becoming embarrassing.
They have this fantasy that's beclouding their reasoning, maybe because of what they see on the screen.I just don't know[/s].

Freemancipation:
Here is my opinion. There are igbos who have made it big in Nigeria. They have attained great successes inspite of the dysfunctional system Nigeria has. Some of them have gotten comfortable in that system because they made it. A lot of these igbos live in Lagos and some of them see Biafra agitation as the excuse Nigerian people and government will use to steal and destroy their hard earn wealth; their sweat and blood. So these people understandably are against Biafra even though they know that what Nnamdi Kanu is saying is true.

The goal for IPOB is to get the the international community involved through sanctioning Nigeria if they try to plunder people's wealth after Biafra referendum. IPOB still has a lot of work to do.

ImperialYoruba:


They have sold their rights of ancestry to Oduduwa, they are currently pseudo-Yorubas, they have to prove their unalloyed loyalty to Oduduwa in order to be accepted as proto-Yoruba. They can never be Yoruba in full.

Why are you jealous of their achievements?

SlayerForever:
I meet Lagos born Igbo very well here in the east(I'm Lagos born myself but currently in the east) and I must tell you when they talk you will shake your head in pity. They are so so ignorant,so silly and so lost. I must be very plain,many of them are just sheep. They have no regard for the culture,they have no regard for the language...Nothing. Growing up outside Igboland has taken it's toll negatively on many of them. They denigrate the Igbo Nation with reckless abandon It is a pity they're foolishly echoing sentiments they absolve from Igbophobic nonentities in Lagos. I must tell you the truth,it is the dust Nnamdi Kanu is raising with the secessionist movement that has made some of them start asking pertinent questions.

ehinmowo:
Money on their minds bro. No time to say no time




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onyegwu:
What is the ideology of the Eastern base Igbo that's where u should start from and not the other way round. I schooled in the east and I also witness the way they behave and carry them selves. The eastern brought ups are filled with so much hate wap ideas. They have refuse to liberate them selves with the ideas and stories handed down to them with liberality but instead they took it hook, line and sinker all at once. They want u to hate like them follow traditions that are not progressive be hostile follow the syndrome of u should make it whether hook or crook. What is the complain the Op is even making so that we can tackle it head on with him because he could not point exactly what the Lagos Igbo's have done wrong. What is wrong in speaking the Language u understand with another person that understands it too? Your Governors and traditional rulers who are Igbo custodians what have they been able to do in the east with all their Igbo wholesomeness. Lagos is progressive because of the liberality so if an Igbo Lagos brought up has caught into it leave them and face your wholesomeness as an Igbo eastern brought up. Nobody cares about that it doesn't put food on the table.

PentiumPro:
The so called Lagosian igbos have heard the different sides of the stories about Nigeria and have had long contact with other Nigerians to under the different shades and nuances that make up this awesome and complex country, and that we all have common enemies that are majorly the elites from all Nigeria tribes without exception

On the other the igbotic home grown and based igbos have not been able to understand Nigeria above what they are told by their parents and uncles. They see an average other Nigerian as part of their own problem and a reason why he or she is still a failure at over 30 yrs without anyyhing tangible to point to as achievement outside the igbotic achieved Bsc

SlayerForever:
Lagos is, but it doesn't explain why they chose to be ignorant and silly. I went to secondary school in Lagos, and university in the East. I have the first hand information on what I'm saying. I met these so called lasgidis in school, their reasoning was very uncultured and annoying. They prefer speaking Yoruba to Igbo. I picked a fight with them occasionally. I exposed and shredded them. That they became very ashamed of themselves. They would think they are better than Eastern Igbo, they will be quick to label someone igbotic.
This basically sums up my lasgidi coursemates in University. Stupid bunch. All of them to be honest. However,label me Igbotic and I revel in it.

walepackage:
Well,let me just chipp in.Studies has shown that behaviour,attitude,thinking or reasoning of"man" are all shape by external coersion(family,culture,religion,education,environment and peers)which they internallize and shape their personality.In an attempt to answer your question op,your "folks men",born and breed in "lagos" wil definately act,behave and reason in a different dimention compare to those at home,not that they looks diferent,but becouse of those factors mentioned aboved.Consciously or subconciously it interplay in their ways and how they perceived certain phenomena.Conclusively,these set of people born and breed outside the"igboland" mostly have wat i call "dual personality and flexible"and those at home usually "rigid and conservative".Its a natural law of "man" not applicable to "igbos"only.My take on it.

prodigy24:


First of all I want to thank you for your sincere opinion.
However, I was very careful that is why I did not generalise. I used the word
"Some" so you are out of the list.
I grew up in Lagos with my parents, though I was not born there. I have many cousin who grew up there too, and when you hear them talk,You spit. Honestly its disheartening, the Igbo Americans are very Igbo to the core, you need to see igbofest and some other programs being organized by young people of Igbo extraction in American. They pride themselves as Igbo America. They wear it like crown. Example Jidenna, look at that young man, he carries Igbo on head like gala. Compare him with Lagos born artists like Gideon okeke, samklef and DJ zeez. These three persons s are Igbo born with no respect for Igbo culture. They are very despicable.

Then, to those points you raised.
1. Yes Igbo people are very Republican in nature.

2. There are divergent opinions in the East. It is very healthy if you ask me. I don't really like the herds mentality. It encourages incompetence.
3. Yes, very true, it is very healthy. But you will agree with me that,these people may differ but only on methodology of Nnamdi KANU. They will never insult the
Igbo people and its culture in any way..

But I don't want to centre this discussion on nnamdi KANU. Let us focus on the topic.
4. Lagos is, but it doesn't explain why they chose to be ignorant and silly. I went to secondary school in Lagos, and university in the East. I have the first hand information on what I'm saying. I met these so called lasgidis in school, their reasoning was very uncultured and annoying. They prefer speaking Yoruba to Igbo. I picked a fight with them occasionally. I exposed and shredded them. That they became very ashamed of themselves. They would think they are better than Eastern Igbo, they will be quick to label someone igbotic. In fact I took it very personal if I hear someone say igbotic in derogatory way back then in school.
5. No, their own divergent opinion is always laced with staggering ignorance! They don't know what Nigeria is. To them they are being carried away with what they see on the screen.
6. We may have not had the kind of leadership we deserve, but remember. Most of our leaders are suffering from defeatism. They were humiliated during the war. So I'm not counting on them again.

We are the one that will produce the renowned leader we are seeking for, and that's why Nnamdi a British Igbo had to step up. Many will follow too.

However, What I am saying has nothing to do with leadership. It is the attitude of some of our people born and brought up in Lagos. How about Igbo Americans that have been very formidable? Who is mentoring them?
7.
Yes, you have actually given me the excuses, on why they are very problematic and ignorant.
Igbo lagosians like you need to do more to save this trend. It is becoming embarrassing.
They have this fantasy that's beclouding their reasoning, maybe because of what they see on the screen.I just don't know.

babyfaceafrica:
Which one is Lagos Igbo?....igbo is igbo....you guys should stop sidelining some people...they are as Igbo as the ones in the SE..must everybody agree to the same thing?

prodigy24:

That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying we should agree, but they don't even know themselves

Basic123:
this guys shouldn't be bothered that lagos is lagosizing and yorubanizing their folks na.I thought lagos is a no mans land

onyegwu:
What is the ideology of the Eastern base Igbo that's where u should start from and not the other way round. I schooled in the east and I also witness the way they behave and carry them selves. The eastern brought ups are filled with so much hate wap ideas. They have refuse to liberate them selves with the ideas and stories handed down to them with liberality but instead they took it hook, line and sinker all at once. They want u to hate like them follow traditions that are not progressive be hostile follow the syndrome of u should make it whether hook or crook. What is the complain the Op is even making so that we can tackle it head on with him because he could not point exactly what the Lagos Igbo's have done wrong. What is wrong in speaking the Language u understand with another person that understands it too? Your Governors and traditional rulers who are Igbo custodians what have they been able to do in the east with all their Igbo wholesomeness. Lagos is progressive because of the liberality so if an Igbo Lagos brought up has caught into it leave them and face your wholesomeness as an Igbo eastern brought up. Nobody cares about that it doesn't put food on the table.

babyfaceafrica:
and you are the one to tell them?..they are not kids..let the do what they like!!!

989900:


Crapola.

prodigy24:

Are you Igbo? If you are not please don't bother

Develpeast:
You are being emotional, so as other people too. I have said times without number, if they are not seeing a better or atleast the same alternative, they will not support biafra. This is a very strong problem you will get from diaspora igbos staying and making money in different parts of the country apart from igboland. These guys have grown comfortable and are making so much money. You want someone to leave his comfort zone to start all over? You have an advantage in them, that is, eat their monies. They are willing to donate millions of money to the development of igboland which will in turn look sexier for them to move. I am not just talking about lagos igbos, i am talking about the general diaspora igbos who do not live or do business in the east.

From my estimated calculation, we can generate as high as 2 trillion naira yearly if we engage these diaspora igbos in the development process of the igboland. It is when you look at the economic aspect of biafra, that many businessmen and professionals will answer you. the rest will just look at you and laugh. I am very serious.

realhumanity:
Tackle the economy of the east first and watch Igbo's move enmasse back to the east.

prodigy24:

Nwanne chukwu gozie GI. I remember my first time I'm the east as a teenager, when I was looking for admission. I have never looked down on anybody, but some of these lasgidi guys are very uncultivated, loud and empty. They would talk about things in Lagos as if they live with it. As if they amount to something. I laugh.
You ask them where are they staying in Lagos. They would start lying. Trust me, I know every nook and cranny of Lagos.
These people know nothing. They will be forming classless swag, with nothing to show for it.

I have been very worried about the development. They don't know what they are doing to themselves.
Check all the artist of Igbo extraction from the east, north and compare it with those from Lagos.

Check out the entrepreneur from these zones too. I have come to feel that there is something wrong somewhere. I may be wrong but it is very very serious. They're not the only people born outside the Igbo land.

Northern born are very Igbo to the core at least majority of them.

prodigy24:

You are on point you know what I'm saying.. I have MRT couple of them. It is very shameful. They don't even know anything about themselves.
They don't know their home. And they don't care. They behave like Akatas. .

EzeCanada:


Lest I forget to mention that I commend your passion. Your observations as regards the attitude of Ndi Igbo resident in Lagos are valid. But then, this is also correct for all Igbos. For Igbo is Igbo and there is no such thing as Igbo Lagosian or what have you.

Just like the Igbos control the movie industry, the Yorubas on the other hands are masters of the media. You have to give it to them. They own and control influential media houses in Nigeria and use them to their astronomical advantage. Lagos is the operational base of majority of these media houses.

Therefore one could be right to say that the opinion, psychology and the thought processes -over the years- of majority of the Igbos resident in Lagos and other south west states are constantly being shaped by news/information emanating from these Yoruba owned media houses being the direct recipients.

Imagine the impact of being strategically fed with propaganda through out your life? You should then begin to see why I summerised it as a leadership failure from Igbo leaders.

Don't forget that these information from these media houses are basis for which social, political, cultural and economic debates and discussion are shaped.

Ever thought of the collosal impact the above mentioned points already fermented on the psyc of your "Igbo Logosians". What are young Igbo minds being fed daily by Yoruba controlled media, schools etc? Food for thoughts

PentiumPro:
The so called Lagosian igbos have heard the different sides of the stories about Nigeria and have had long contact with other Nigerians to under the different shades and nuances that make up this awesome and complex country, and that we all have common enemies that are majorly the elites from all Nigeria tribes without exception

On the other the igbotic home grown and based igbos have not been able to understand Nigeria above what they are told by their parents and uncles. They see an average other Nigerian as part of their own problem and a reason why he or she is still a failure at over 30 yrs without anyyhing tangible to point to as achievement outside the igbotic achieved Bsc

prodigy24:

Listen, its not all about the money. They don't make more money than Igbo from other places..