alBHAGDADI:
brb

when they said he moulded a clay and breathe into it, it turned to a bird. is that not even a reason to believe Christ gives life? can a prophet give life? tautology!!

enilove:
Islam is a FALSE RELIGION. If Islam believed in Jesus ,the quran would have contained WORDS of Jesus and obey his commandment. If you believe that a prophet is from God , why dont you obey his messages?

Which of Jesus commandments is in the quran? Non.
Muhammed married the wife of his adopted son . But Jesus tells us not to divorce nor marry a divorced woman.

Matthew 5:31-32 KJV
It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: [32] But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Quran says in Surah 33:37.

37 Behold! Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favour: "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee: in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah´s command must be fulfilled.

The same God of the Bible that hates divorce cannot be the God that commanded Muhammed to marry his adopted son's wife.

Islam is the devil's lie. That is why everything about Islam is violence .

Quran does not contain the ten commandment as given to Moses.
Islam does not know the meaning of a Prophet. That is why quran calls Adam a prophet.

The issue with this response and the thread as a whole is that some adherents of a religion judge other religions by the standards and models of their own religion. For instance, if divorce is illegal in Christianity, you don't expect it to also be illegal in Islam.
They are 2 different religions that have different rules and laws. So calling one religion a FALSE religion is funny. We have hundreds of religions in the world and each one believes his own is the only true one.

Is Christianity is truly a Godly religion, then why doesn't it stop it's adherents from evils like fornication and adultery? U may say ordinary Muslims and xtians fornicate, but what about all those Christian leaders like pastors, bishops etc who are always deep in these evils? How many Muslim scholars has any one found in these sinful traps? Pls be guided, a religion that can't stop ur clergymen from evil and sin isn't a religion but just a deception

Muslims love freedom that is why you see them running to Europe from the middle east in the recent migrant crisis but the irony is that their religion doesn't support freedom if you doubt then tell a woman to drive a car in Saudi Arabia

ollah1:



Nonsense. The earlier you remove the bolded from your head the better.

he has a right to his beliefs just like you claim your own religion is the best.

Well, we believe in what had been revealed to us. Please can show us where Jesus disapproved polygamy?

alBHAGDADI:

You See, we have told Muslims times without number that Jesus never prophecied anything relating to Mohammad, but they never listen. They claim the Bible is a corrupted book, yet to die their head in it looking for where Mohammad is written in it. Let's see the verse they often quote.

John 14:16-17
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever, the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

From the beginning of the verse, we see Jesus speaking about his Father, yet Muslims claim he has no Father. I'm baffled at how they are able to use a verse which shatters one of their lies to support another lie of theirs.
Jesus said he will send the spirit of truth to help his followers. Mohammad can't be the one spoken of here cos he was not a spirit, he was flesh and blood. He wasn't even truthful cos he permitted his followers to lie otherwise known as Al taquiya. Jesus said the spirit will dwell with his followers forever. Mohammad has been dead for centuries Now. So, that disqualifies him too. The spirit Jesus was speaking of is the Holy Spirit who still dwells will us today.






Those that hold this kind of believe have been deceived and lied to. The sad part is that they failed to open their eyes and senses to the truth staring at them.

If you are expecting a Jesus to come down to deny ever being killed and to reject Christianity, then the person you are expecting is the Antichrist, not Jesus.

You see, Muslims developed a clever lie to use to defend their other lies. That lie is that the Bible we have today is corrupted, full of lies and not the original one. They say this so as to prevent Christians from using verses in the Bible to bust their lies. When we use a verse to destroy their lies, they claim such a verse can't be valid cos it's from a corrupted and fake book. If so, why can't they show us the original Bible?

Jesus himself spoke of how he will be killed in Jerusalem and how he will resurrect on the third day.

Mathew 16:21

From that time Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised.

Now, Muslims claim when theirJesus returns he will not accept anything but Islam, meaning he will reject Christianity. Those that believe in this have been lied to. Their belief that the Bible is fake and corrupted has prevented them from reading it to see the truth therein. They rather stick to the Antichrist who has LIED to them.

How can Jesus reject Christianity and accept Islam when Islam's ways are contrary to his own ways? He prevented the stoning of the adulterous woman, Mohammad ordered the stoning of such woman. He disapproved of polygamy, islam approves 4 wives. He spoke of turning the other cheek and forgiving those that offend us, islam preaches vengeance. He warned against any of his followers denying him, islam permits its followers to deny their religion at the point of death to save their life. If I should say more, then I will be bringing out the barbarism of Islam which might be too appalling for this forum to bear. Even Muslims will be awed cos they will be surprised such is part of Islam. But they are all written in their Quran and Hadiths.

How can Jesus accept the Islam that destroyed all his 7 churches he mentioned in Lydia Now known as Turkey an Islamic nation today?

theirs nothing like Christianity Paul was the man Dat invented Christianity not Jesus christ of any prophet. But did u kno Dat Christians only believe Jesus is God. Which God says u should no compare him with anybody. I swear any person Dat called Jesus christ God will be punished on d last dat. And again Jesus him self said he's d son of man in d Bible which we believe God is not man.

ExInferis:
If his name is Yeshua, which in English is Joshua, why are you calling him Jesus?

You're worshiping the wrong messiah.

Yeshua is a Hebrew name. It has the same meaning as to the English rendition of Joshua, which means a saviour.

Jesus is the Greek equivalent of Joshua, which has same connotative meaning. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew while the New Testament was written in Greek.

misterh:
The issue with this response and the thread as a whole is that some adherents of a religion judge other religions by the standards and models of their own religion. For instance, if divorce is illegal in Christianity, you don't expect it to also be illegal in Islam.
They are 2 different religions that have different rules and laws. So calling one religion a FALSE religion is funny. We have hundreds of religions in the world and each one believes his own is the only true one.

Because its adherents who commit fornication and adultery are not really Christians. They a only bear the name. it isn't the name that makes you a Christian, it is your deeds

Jesus said in the Bible "BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS" Anyone who teaches a contrary doctrine to what Jesus taught is a false prophet, take a look at how Christianity spread and how Islam spread then you will know that with violence you can never reach God

Chongaiman:
The Arabic Bible calls Jesus, Yesu. The Eesa the Qur'an talks about must surely be someone else.

Meanwhile, why should I believe an Arab's account over that of a Jew pertaining to a Jew seeing that he couldn't even get the name right?

I think you know Jew's are not xtians, they don't celebrate Christmas.
I hope you know the language Jesus spoke
does miracles turns him to God
don't be surprised when Jesus comes back, his not going to come to Nigeria
his going back to his ancentral place
our prophet told us everything about him the time he would arrive, how we can recognize him
with proves. if you can prove all these to me instead of adulterated book you're relying on

God bless you,if only we Christians will stand up for Christ like this then we wont give dem a chance for persecution.

PrecisionFx:






Jesus raise the dead Lmao.
Bros can u offer any proof towards that

Go to Israel proof is there.

Humanistme:



he has a right to his beliefs just like you claim your own religion is the best.

I don't claim my religion is the best and that believe is nonsense. That believe creates differences and enmity. It should quickly be put to the ground. The most important thing in life is love your neighbour

Shallow arguments. If these were all Christians could put up to make Jesus at par with the Almighty, then I now know why people in the West are departing in droves.

That God was killed by something he created
That so because Jesus was born of a virgin, he is Son of God. What of Adam? ( you sidestepped that in (3)). What is too spectacular for God to do?

Didn't Jesus say "I can of my ownself do nothing"? Is that God?

What's the fuss about names? Names are know to change with the times and people. Ordinary Elizabeth can become Liz, Lizzy, Beth, Betty, Eli, Betha, including all its latinized, anglicised and Gregorian versions.

Forget it.
Your knowledge of Islam isn't different from that of the propagandists on cable channels. Seek true knowledge and be free from worshipping God's creations

There is only one true God, Allah, worthy of all our worship. It isn't befitting for Him to have a son.

Is it befitting for you to be attributed to having a tail even when we know they are desirable for cows and some other lower animals?

Raphael81:
Muslims love freedom that is why you see them running to Europe from the middle east in the recent migrant crisis but the irony is that their religion doesn't support freedom if you doubt then tell a woman to drive a car in Saudi Arabia

You're confusing politics and governance with religion. You do realize that Saudi Arabia is the only country where women are not allowed to drive, right? We have many Muslim countries where anyone can drive.

Is there anywhere where it is written in the Qur'an that women can't drive?

Unless you're saying Islam is practised based on Saudi Arabia laws instead of the Qur'an.

MhizzAJ:
What's dis long epistle for on a Sunday morning

To make the lies from islam bare!

both christianity and islam are both from God. There is no "one true" religion...
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argue with Amadioha!!!

*flies away*

MhizzAJ:
What's dis long epistle for on a Sunday morning

Mhizzaj, everywhere we go

In Christ alone, my hope is found -

misterh:
The issue with this response and the thread as a whole is that some adherents of a religion judge other religions by the standards and models of their own religion. For instance, if divorce is illegal in Christianity, you don't expect it to also be illegal in Islam.
They are 2 different religions that have different rules and laws. So calling one religion a FALSE religion is funny. We have hundreds of religions in the world and each one believes his own is the only true one.

well this is a counter thread. they pushed an offensive thread to Christians from Islamic section to the fp on Friday and Christians were not allowed to comment. if seun wants things to remain the same he should stop pushing offensive threads to fp whether Islam or Christian especially when the people it is offending can't even comment I don't think it's fair. offensive threads whether religious, tribal shouldn't be on fp after all they never push atheist threads to fp.

Amberon11:
Did anyone say God wasn't one?

Didn't the old testament say "Let us make man in our own image"? Who are us?

You are asking me questions like i even believe in that crap me i just state what i observed according to the bible well according to the Moo're traditions the "US" where a group of 144 million elders who were all considered to be God

rexbuton:


Because its adherents who commit fornication and adultery are not really Christians. They a only bear the name. it isn't the name that makes you a Christian, it is your deeds

Same can be said of Muslims too.

bamidelee:

I think you know Jew's are not xtians, they don't celebrate Christmas.
I hope you know the language Jesus spoke
does miracles turns him to God
don't be surprised when Jesus comes back, his not going to come to Nigeria
his going back to his ancentral place
our prophet told us everything about him the time he would arrive, how we can recognize him
with proves. if you can prove all these to me instead of adulterated book you're relying on

Hmmm your words are senseless and baseless...your Mohammed that came after the death and risen of our Lord Jesus Christ told you and ordinary dust how to recorgnise Jesus...you that is born through sex...keep on living in lies.

zionmade1:
I wonder how sane people choose to call a man who married a girl and killed her entire family, I man who put his thing in between the thighs of a 7 yrs girl and released, a man who ordered the killing of so many people, how on earth do sane people call the guy their perfect prophet.

Islam has no single relationship with Christianity. How else can the devil deceive so many people if not by corrupting the truth and diverting people's attention away from the truth

i'm very sorry to say but u re lying, because u cant prove what u said

Myde4naija:
How come Yahshua is now called JESUS? I'm sure Yahshua is to be on earth today he will never answer the fake name you give to him.........JESUS.

His name was transliterated from Hebrew into English Greek which later got Jesus.

That's the same way Moses, Mathew, Peter, James John, Elijah etc became what they are today after transliteration from Hebrew to many languages.

my jesus liveth. I must die a christian no matter what, my mother sufferd from that man called my father he wanted me to stop schooling and face arabic studies because he was the chief imam and my mother left!then i was 5years,am now 35yrs: when graduated from OAU ife we invited him but he never show up am the only child for my mother till date, but i thank god my mother met christ she is now a pastor and a sunday school teacher. Nothing like jesus christ he gives u comfort and peace.

misterh:
You're confusing politics and governance with religion. You do realize that Saudi Arabia is the only country where women are not allowed to drive, right? We have many Muslim countries where anyone can drive.

Is there anywhere where it is written in the Qur'an that women can't drive?

Unless you're saying Islam is practised based on Saudi Arabia laws instead of the Qur'an.

Is Saudi Arabia not the corner stone of Islam? Do Christians visit the Mecca or Medina? The basis for discrimination is found in your holy book where your god even turned the people of Israel to pigs? Your god hates the Jews but in the Bible they were the elect...

Op, May the Good Lord bless you for this write up.

#Yawns, lemme go back to sleep.

1shortblackboy:
seun leaves christian threads open for bashing from muslims and atheists but protects muslim threads from bashing cause the muslims are violent cry babies

Thats surprising to me too...thats been biased.

Here is a brief list of some of the materials in the Quran that Muhammad copied/adopted from the Christians, the Jews, the Armenians, the Hindus and the Magians (Zoroastrians):


Tayammum (4:43): Copied from the Jewish Scripture the Talmud.

Breathing life into birds (2:260, 3:49, 5:110): Copied from the Coptic books.

Houris, Azazil (44:54): Learned from the foreigners in Mecca.

Harut amd Marut (2:102): From the Armenian books-Harut and Marut who are in control of wind and rain.

Allah's throne above water (11:7): From the Jewish tradition

Malik, the ruler of Hell (43:77): From the Jews. [ Molech--Leviticus 18.21; 20.2/3/4/5, etc]

7 Heavens (2:29, 41:12): Adopted from the Sanskrit Scripture of the Hindus.

Mary giving birth under the trunk of a tree (19:23): Copied from the Gospel of Infancy, an apocryphal Christian Gospel

Infant Jesus talking (3:46, 19:30-31, 19:33): Copied from the Gospel of Infancy.

Description of Paradise and Hell (there are many verses-see the section on Salman, the Persian: Copied from the Magians (Zoroastrians) and the Hindus.

Jesus not killed, Allah lifted up Jesus (3:55, 4:157-158): Copied from the Gospel of Barnabas

The story of Joseph (Sura 12): Copied from the Midrash, a Jewish Scripture.

The story of Solomon and Sheba (21:78-82, 27:17-19, 27:22-23): Copied from the Haggada, a Jewish Scripture. [ Kings I 10.1 ]

The original Qur'an is kept in Heaven (43:4, 85:21-22): The Talmud says that the Torah is a preserved tablet in Heaven.

Angel of death--Azrail or Azazil, Malaku'l Maut (6:61, 7:37, 32:11): Adopted from the Jewish and the Magian (Zoroastrian) scriptures.


Uncannily though, the Quran itself asserts that the infidels of Mecca knew that Muhammad had copied the Quran from various sources, especially from the Jewish Scriptures; and that was why Allah had to admonish the polytheists for calling Muhammad a copy-cat. This is revealed in verse 28:48

28.48 But (now), when the Truth has come to them from Ourselves, they say, "Why are not (Signs) sent to him, like those which were sent to Moses?" Do they not then reject (the Signs) which were formerly sent to Moses? They say: "Two kinds of sorcery, each assisting the other!" And they say: "For us, we reject all (such things)!"

For more examples of plagiarism in the Quran (by Muhammad) one may refer to the books listed in the bibliography.

Muhammad's neighbour was an-Nadr b. al-Harith. He too used to write verses similar to the Quran. He was also a very good story-teller--especially of the ancient fables. Whenever Muhammad gathered people to listen to his tales in the Quran an-Nadr would entice the audience of Muhammad with better stories than Muhammad. Due to an-Nadr's excellent proficiency in narrating the anecdotes Muhammad saw his audience disappear. Muhammad considered an-Nadr's act extremely loathsome and had his revenge taken by capturing an-Nadr in the battle of Badr and later beheading him.

Here are references to some selected verses from the Quran that tell us that the pagans were very much aware that Muhammad used to tell them ancient stories that they had heard before-Muhammad did not narrate any new fable at all-he simply regurgitated what he had heard from his sources-passing them as Allah's revelations:

The unbelievers consider theQuran as tales of the ancients…8:31

The unbelievers said that the revelations to Muhammad were the tales from the past…16:24

Many pagans had heard the story of resurrection from past tales…23:83

Disbelievers say 'the Quran is ancient tales which they had heard before'…25:5
The unbelievers insist that the Quran is tales from the past…27:68
The unbelievers say the Quran is nothing but the tales of the ancients…46:17
The unbelievers termed Muhammad's revelations as tales from the past…68:15

Ubayy b. Ka'b

http://www.inthenameofallah.org/Authors ... Quran.html