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So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 8:33am On Sep 25, 2017
That's my point!


Some so called educated people were toasting to that useless stance of the US embassy.

I said to myself, so what if the US refuses to see them as terrorist, what does that change? Is US God or just the self-acclaimed policeman of the world status they assume on any issue that does affect their interest?


The same people who deported abu hamza from the US for his way of preaching and even tagged him a terrorist , wants the authority in Nigeria to sit and watch a deranged boy drag us into another civil war by always preaching violence and goading his followers to kill people who are not of his tribe?

Referring to other tribes as "cockroaches" cost Rwandan 500, 000 lives , and they have learnt from it and everybody should learn from that. There are things you don't say or do in Rwanda despite democracy allowing freedom. They created the system they think works for them.

If trump is mad, are the people he employed to work for him also mad?

Do they know the intelligence available to our security agency before the proscription was carried out? Is he doubting our intelligence unit? The same intelligence we've used to prevent attack on their embassy and on their soil? The same intelligence we used to inform them that abdulmutalib would attack and they should keep him under watch and they failed until that attack was carried out? Have we not been bursting Nigerian terrorist s trying to go to America and create trouble? This is ingratitude from the Americans we provide security for in our country.


I remember some of them complaining that FG government should have released Kanu when a competent court gave that order; now we know how he has flouted every bail condition and has continued to cause trouble, yet , the stupid embassy didn't condemn all this . Now , through a competent court, IPOB was proscribed, they're issuing a statement to rubbish our laws and treat our court with contempt. Hypocrisy!


When America and her allies decided to tag Mandela a terrorist, we stood our ground, supported him and saw him as someone fighting a just cause. Is America trying to pay us back?

Do they have terrorism going on or have a terrorist group operating on their soil for them to tell us how to identify a terrorist activities on our land?

Can Kaduna state tell Texas what it takes to deal with hurricane and how it feels to be hit by one?

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by madridguy(m): 8:34am On Sep 25, 2017
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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by amazingspiderma: 8:35am On Sep 25, 2017
ignorant posters everywhere.
This op needs to be reminded that terrorism is an act not a speech.

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by hatchy(f): 8:37am On Sep 25, 2017
Although I'm totally against the modus operandi which Nnamdi kanu used for his agitation of Biafra.But tagging his organization a terrorist group is way too far which the government took to curb the menace of Ipob.

Hate speech can do a lot more damage than using chemical or Biological weapons as witnessed in Germany when Adolf Hitler brainwashed Germans making them believe their only problem is caused by the Jews,this led to the extermination of over six million Jews.
Rwanda witnessed genocide when an ethnic group spread hate speech by calling others cockroaches and went on killing its own kind.

Hate speech is dangerous but can be easier to handle than terrorism if the government apply wisdom rather than outright application of the term terrorist on a group that can be called to the negotiating table to settle differences.
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by OjukwuWarBird: 8:38am On Sep 25, 2017
Some people don't understand diplomatic language



What the US is telling Nigerians is that they should conduct a referendum like that of the Scottish Referendum






A true Christian ethnic group can never


1) force or beg a Muslim ethnic group to share the same country with them.


2) depend on the resources of a Muslim ethnic group for survival.


Why can't we.?



Because we know that our God aka Yahweh is always there for us.

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by nextexcel: 8:49am On Sep 25, 2017
Let me help you op, in this case either IPOB is a terrorist group or that Nigeria is a terrorist country.
Locally you Nigerians might call IPOB terrorist but in global affair they will take Nigeria as a terrorist country.

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by FeloniousFelon: 8:59am On Sep 25, 2017
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BALLOSKI:
That's my point!


Some so called educated people were toasting to that useless stance of the US embassy.

I said to myself, so what if the US refuses to see them as terrorist, what does that change? Is US God or just the self-acclaimed policeman of the world status they assume on any issue that does affect their interest?


The same people who deported abu hamza from the US for his way of preaching and even tagged him a terrorist , wants the authority in Nigeria to sit and watch a deranged boy drag us into another civil war by always preaching violence and goading his followers to kill people who are not of his tribe?

Referring to other tribes as "cockroaches" cost Rwandan 500, 000 lives , and they have learnt from it and everybody should learn from that. There are things you don't say or do in Rwanda despite democracy allowing freedom. They created the system they think works for them.

If trump is mad, are the people he employed to work from r him also mad?

Do they know the intelligence available to our security agency before the proscription was carried out? Is he doubting our intelligence unit? The same intelligence we've used to prevent attack on their embassy and on their soil? The same intelligence we used to inform them that abdulmutalib would attack and they should keep him under watch and they failed until that attack was carried out? Have we not been bursting Nigerian terrorist s trying to go to America and create trouble? This is ingratitude from the Americans we provide security for in our country.


I remember some of them complaining that FG government should have released Kanu when a competent court gave that order; now we know how has flouted every bail condition and has continued to cause trouble, yet , the stupid embassy didn't condemn all this . Now , through a competent court, IPOB was proscribed, they're issuing a statement to rubbish our laws and treat our court with contempt. Hypocrisy!


When America and her allies decided to tag Mandela a terrorist, we stood our ground, supported him and saw him as someone fighting a just cause. Is America trying to pay us back?

Do they have terrorism going or have a terrorist group operating on their soil for them to tell us how to identify a terrorist activities on our land?

Can Kaduna state tell Texas what it takes to deal with hurricane and how it feels to be hit be hit by one?
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Painment is permanent with this one.

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by FeloniousFelon: 9:01am On Sep 25, 2017
The biggest sin that kanu committed which Nigerians tell themselves which they now equate to terrorism is hate speech.

Adeyinka Grandson's known location is in London from where he threatened to unleash chemical and biological weapons against northerners in their region .

This is not hate speech but an open declaration and intention to carry out an act of terrorism and mass murder using banned weapons.

Iraq was invaded and its then supreme ruler toppled on the pretex of stockpiling weapons of mass destruction and for an alleged chemical attack on Kurdish civilians in northern Iraq.

If you weigh the statements credited to Adeyinka Grandson and compare with that of Nnamdi KANU, who will you categorize as a terrorist?

Instead of trying to shut down IPOB rallies in Europe and America by getting the Intl community to go along with their terrorist tag on the group ,why can't the FG begin extradiction process to have Adeyinka Grandson face criminal trial for his reckless terrorist threats?


Not stopping there... how about fishing out the composers and distributors of the anti-igbo song which called explicitly for the murder and rape of Igbos residing in the north?

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 9:17am On Sep 25, 2017
FeloniousFelon:
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Painment is permanent with this one.

you're deluded to think I'm pained by their stance. What has that changed? Has their stance made IPOB to appear like group of religious preachers before Nigerians ? They're still terrorists

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 9:22am On Sep 25, 2017
FeloniousFelon:
The biggest sin that kanu committed which Nigerians tell themselves which they now equate to terrorism is hate speech.

Adeyinka Grandson's known location is in London from where he threatened to unleash chemical and biological weapons against northerners in their region .

This is not hate speech but an open declaration and intention to carry out an act of terrorism and mass murder using banned weapons.

Iraq was invaded and its then supreme ruler toppled on the pretex of stockpiling weapons of mass destruction and for an alleged chemical attack on Kurdish civilians in northern Iraq.

If you weigh the statements credited to Adeyinka Grandson and compare with that of Nnamdi KANU, who will you categorize as a terrorist?

Instead of trying to shut down IPOB rallies in Europe and America by getting the Intl community to go along with their terrorist tag on the group ,why can't the FG begin extradiction process to have Adeyinka Grandson face criminal trial for his reckless terrorist threats?


Not stopping there... how about fishing out the composers and distributors of the anti-igbo song which called explicitly for the murder and rape of Igbos residing in the north?
did Nigerian government go to the UK to arrest kanu? He brought himself here.

Grandson should come back and form a group, let's see how it goes. Unlike your own people who celebrate kanu's stupidity, Yoruba people will be the first to nip the boy in the bud.

Extradite who? The British government that cannot close down a radio station should extradite a potential terrorist to Nigeria?
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by adem30: 9:27am On Sep 25, 2017
BALLOSKI:
did Nigerian government go to the UK to arrest kanu? He brought himself here.

Grandson should come back and form a group, let's see how it goes. Unlike your own people who celebrate kanu's stupidity, Yoruba people will be the first to nip the boy in the bud.

Extradite who? The British government that cannot close down a radio station should extradite a potential terrorist to Nigeria?

Bros, you get time for those daft o, Why are you fetching water into a basket?
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 9:39am On Sep 25, 2017
OjukwuWarBird:
Some people don't understand diplomatic language



What the US is telling Nigerians is that they should conduct a referendum like that of the Scottish Referendum






A true Christian ethnic group can never


[s]1) force or beg a Muslim ethnic group to share the same country with them.


2) depend on the resources of a Muslim ethnic group for survival.


Why can't we.?



Because we know that our God aka Yahweh is always there for us.[/s]

What are you guys fed with in that region that kept making you to act "akputic" on and off public fora?
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 9:42am On Sep 25, 2017
nextexcel:
Let me help you op, in this case either IPOB is a terrorist group or that Nigeria is a terrorist country.
Locally you Nigerians might call IPOB terrorist but in global affair they will take Nigeria as a terrorist country.
yes! And the global community should respect our laws and approach to defeating terrorism.
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 9:43am On Sep 25, 2017
nextexcel:
Let me help you op, in this case either IPOB is a terrorist group or that Nigeria is a terrorist country.
Locally you Nigerians might call IPOB terrorist but in global affair they will take Nigeria as a terrorist country.
yes! And the global community should respect our laws and approach to defeating terrorism. He that wear the shoe knows not only where it pinches, but when and how to remove it when the pain is unbearable.
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by wakaman: 9:45am On Sep 25, 2017
America, they use ipob life play ball.
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by Nukualofa: 9:48am On Sep 25, 2017
BALLOSKI:
you're deluded to think I'm pained by their stance. What has that changed? Has their stance made IPOB to appear like group of religious preachers before Nigerians ? They're still terrorists
Between Fulani herdsmen and IPOB which is deadly
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by Nukualofa: 9:51am On Sep 25, 2017
The Idiots here shouting why America should be involving themselves on Nigeria matters forgot so soon how the 19 Northern governors were invited to US and they ended up looking like Almajiri that was taken to a cinema house.

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by buchilino(m): 9:51am On Sep 25, 2017
WHY IGBOS ARE ANGRY WITH NIGERIA

My friends who are not from the Easvt of Nigeria where Igbos come from often ask me why there is so much anger in the East and among Igbos. Some wonder why, despite the famed Igbo” wealth’ and enterprise all over Nigeria, the people still complain that Nigeria is unfair to them. Some insinuate that the anger comes from the loss of the 2015 election by Jonathan who the Igbos heavily backed.

And why is it that the current generation of Igbos are so angry as to contemplate carrying arms against the country? With lots are following Nnamdi Kanu of IPOB with his secessionist message. Those not following may despise his antics and rhetoric but are sympathetic to his underlying message? And what is that message? That Igbos don’t feel wanted in Nigeria. That decades of official marginalization and discrimination should be stopped or they would be ready to take their chances in a new nation.

First, for those who think this is all about Jonathan and Buhari. It is not. Igbos were disappointed that Jonathan did not win. But those whose candidates lose elections lick their wounds. It is allowed. It happens when your candidate loses election. Why did the Igbos invest so much emotions in Jonathan, a non-Igbo Ijaw? It was more because of the fear of their experience in the past 50 years. Nigeria has placed an embargo on any Igbo man becoming Nigerian president. Jonathan was the next best thing. Other parts of Nigeria have supported their sons to the presidency. Some have bombed Nigeria into submission to get their son to Aso Rock. Igbos have little capacity to blackmail Nigeria to the presidency. They chose Jonathan as their “Igbo”. But that’s not to say that they are angry enough because he lost to contemplate going to war on his behalf. Jonathan was not really the model of a President you would go to war for. And his Ijaw people have accepted his loss. So?

Igbo anger has been building up in Nigeria since I was a kid in the 70s. As kids, we made choices in our school years based on the narrative of the Igbo place in Nigeria. We knew of the glass ceiling against Igbos before we were out of puberty. After the civil war, despite the “No winner, no vanquished” program, Nigeria placed glass ceilings and no-go areas for Igbos. The war reconstruction program was observed more in the breach. There was the “abandoned” property program that was introduced to drive a wedge between components of the former South-East Nigeria. While the country was too embarrassed to put the discrimination program down in an official gazette, it was there for anyone who cared to look. It was evident in the Igbo police officer who stayed in one position while less qualifies juniors progressed to become his bosses. It was evident when no Igbo qualified to become the Inspector General of Police, or leader any division in the armed forces. It was there when "sensitive" or "lucrative" positions were shared in Nigeria and Igbos were conspicuously absent. It was there when Igbos were only fit enough to be made Minister of Information until Obasanjo came to power. And even recently, it was there when Buhari appointed 47 people to man the critical roles in his government and no one from the South east was there. Any time there is a federal appointment in Nigeria, its usually the east that shouts. It was there from Buhari first term to his second term and anyone in-between.

The Igbo elite called it marginalization. Other Nigerians countered by saying no part of Nigeria was getting enough. Marginalization was universal. But they forgot something. The Igbo cry of marginalization was official policy. It was expected. It was programmed. And occasionally, key government officials let it slip that Igbos should not complain. After all, they fought a war with Nigeria. Talk about No Victor, No Vanquished. There was a Victor alright. And they were reminded of that at every turn. Every appointment. Every national project. Nigeria was only pretending. Igbos were licking their wounds and complaining and the rest of Nigeria was too busy to notice.

Go to the South-East today. Since the 70s and the oil boom. Nigeria has invested in commercial industries across the country. None has been sited in the South east. None. Refineries, Steel Plants, Cement Firms. Any Industry. The South East was systematically de-industrialized. Even when it was the best location for any industry, there was always a reason why it should not be sited there. What this means was that any Igbo man that wanted to work in a commercial federal establishment had to leave the east. Add this to the indigenization policy of the early 70s that pushed the Igbos out of private companies. It meant that international companies also avoided expansion into the south east. The Nigerian Breweries, the Dunlop and other such firms sited their plants outside the East and only set up distribution centers to sell in the region. This is one of the main reasons the exodus of Igbos from the zone accelerated after the war and continues to this day despite the hostility they face in certain parts of Nigeria. And why most became traders and commercial business men. Because access to organized work either in the government, government commercial institutions and even commercial institutions were limited.

The only industrial enterprise in the east are built by easterners; Nnewi, Aba, Onitsha. These are Igbo indigenous industrial cities.

This has been the practice since the end of the war.
In addition to this, the Federal Government has systematically made it difficult for Easterners to do commercial business even in the East. The Federal Roads in the East are some of the worst in Nigeria. The Eastern Sea ports have been made ineffective. It was a war to get the Enugu Airport upgraded to an International Airport. The former Finance Minister shed tears on the day the first International Flight landed in Enugu. Yes, Okonjo Iwealla cried! Recently, it was only the South East that was conspicuously missing in the New Railway Plan of the Federal Government. Nigeria has 6 regions. And one was missing in a national railway plan. Incidentally, Igbos who reside here are the most itinerant in the country and would benefit most from a national transport plan. Even our President changed the plan to include his village but a zone of the country was not included.

When you go to the east, despite the lack of federal presence, the presence of police all over the east tells a story. They mount road blocks and make it difficult to have commercial activity. Recently, Customs has joined. And lastly the army. It is an occupied territory. They extort money. They intimate. They recently have started killing.

Nigeria has made the east unlivable. Purposely. Carefully.

I am often in conversations where people accuse the east of being clannish. That while we are welcome in all parts of Nigeria, outsiders cannot come to the East. My question is: why would you come to the east? To do what? There is no business to do in the east. Nigeria has ensured that. Why would someone from the South West of Nigeria go to the East to invest? No one would prevent you. But it hardly makes commercial sense. Nigeria has ensured that. Those from the North are there in droves. Igbos love to celebrate with cows. And the cattlemen go there to sell their cattle. No one molests them. In my village and most villages in the East, they live unmolested. But those are the only people who can find commercial reason to be there!

So those who wonder why Igbos are angry, wonder no more. While most would not dare carry arms against Nigeria, don’t under estimate the level of disconnection and anger especially among the younger generation. Nigeria is made of nations that came together to form a country. No nation will like to be in perpetual servitude. That Nnamdi Kanu’s supporters starred down army tanks with sticks is a sign that the next generation will be ready to fight bare hands if necessary to stop Nigeria treating the Igbo nation as second-class citizens. There will be fiercer and angrier Kanus in our immediate future if Nigeria does not officially stop the “vanquished “program against the Igbos who fought the civil war. You cannot preach unity and indivisibility of the country on TV and all your actions point at discriminating against the components of the country. It is as dangerous as it is foolhardy. Let those who preach unity walk the talk and stop open discrimination of their countrymen. History has shown that you cannot decree peace. You cannot decree unity. You cannot force any group to belong to a country by force, it may work for a time. But never sustainable.
Nigeria has a lot to look forward to as a united country. It also has enough for the regions and nations that make up the country. Our diversity is a blessing. Our failure to reach our potential is caused mostly by the internal contradictions and the inability to build a fair country that can bring out the best out of her component regions. Those who shout most about loving Nigeria today are mostly those its current unfair structure favor. But Nigeria will continue being as strong as its weakest link. And the weak links are all there to see. The East is one of the weakest links. Until it stops being a weak link, Nigeria cannot truly make progress.

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 9:56am On Sep 25, 2017
adem30:


Bros, you get time for those daft o, Why are you fetching water into a basket?
I tire for them.
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by KINGOFTHEEAST: 9:57am On Sep 25, 2017
BALLOSKI:
That's my point!


Some so called educated people were toasting to that useless stance of the US embassy.

I said to myself, so what if the US refuses to see them as terrorist, what does that change? Is US God or just the self-acclaimed policeman of the world status they assume on any issue that does affect their interest?


The same people who deported abu hamza from the US for his way of preaching and even tagged him a terrorist , wants the authority in Nigeria to sit and watch a deranged boy drag us into another civil war by always preaching violence and goading his followers to kill people who are not of his tribe?

Referring to other tribes as "cockroaches" cost Rwandan 500, 000 lives , and they have learnt from it and everybody should learn from that. There are things you don't say or do in Rwanda despite democracy allowing freedom. They created the system they think works for them.

If trump is mad, are the people he employed to work from r him also mad?

Do they know the intelligence available to our security agency before the proscription was carried out? Is he doubting our intelligence unit? The same intelligence we've used to prevent attack on their embassy and on their soil? The same intelligence we used to inform them that abdulmutalib would attack and they should keep him under watch and they failed until that attack was carried out? Have we not been bursting Nigerian terrorist s trying to go to America and create trouble? This is ingratitude from the Americans we provide security for in our country.


I remember some of them complaining that FG government should have released Kanu when a competent court gave that order; now we know how has flouted every bail condition and has continued to cause trouble, yet , the stupid embassy didn't condemn all this . Now , through a competent court, IPOB was proscribed, they're issuing a statement to rubbish our laws and treat our court with contempt. Hypocrisy!


When America and her allies decided to tag Mandela a terrorist, we stood our ground, supported him and saw him as someone fighting a just cause. Is America trying to pay us back?

Do they have terrorism going or have a terrorist group operating on their soil for them to tell us how to identify a terrorist activities on our land?

Can Kaduna state tell Texas what it takes to deal with hurricane and how it feels to be hit be hit by one?
harmattan is coming and its coming with death
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by nairalandankrah: 10:05am On Sep 25, 2017
Who would you rather prefer to call you a terrorist.? The USA or the CLUELESS FEDGVT..
I Hope you guys won't go back to USA to beg for money,or weapons.. Smh
I think Nigerians need to wake up to the reality that the country is living in past glory..we WERE once the giant of Africa..

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 10:12am On Sep 25, 2017
Nukualofa:
Between Fulani herdsmen and IPOB which is deadly
tell me the operational base of herdsmen, their leaders, where they burn down a police station, where they frisk travellers bus to see people of other tribe to kill, show me where they confronted the military or prevent them from passing , where they promised to tear Nigeria down in 24hrs , the tribe that's the object of attack of herdsmen, etc, then I'd tell you what they're.


Tell me if Fulani don't attack people across north too. Zamfara , bauchi , Niger, borno , adamawa, gombe, katsina , kaduna , Kano , yobe ,kogi , etc are all spots of attack of herdsmen too.
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by Nukualofa: 10:16am On Sep 25, 2017
BALLOSKI:
tell me the operational base of herdsmen, their leaders, where they burn down a police station, where they frisk travellers bus to see people of other tribe to kill, show me where they confronted the military or prevent them from passing , where they promised to tear Nigeria down in 24hrs , the tribe that's the object of attack of herdsmen, etc, then I'd tell you what they're.


Tell me if Fulani don't attack people across north too. Zamfara , bauchi , Niger, borno , adamawa, gombe, katsina , kaduna , Kano , yobe ,kogi , etc are all spots of attack of herdsmen too.
Now compare the two paragraph and you will find out that you shot yourself in the brain because you ended up saying Fulani herdsmen attacks and maim people while IPOB constitue public nuisance.


Abooki will always be Abooki

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 10:17am On Sep 25, 2017
KINGOFTHEEAST:
harmattan is coming and its coming with death
STFU
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 10:49am On Sep 25, 2017
Nukualofa:
Now compare the two paragraph and you will find out that you shot yourself in the brain because you ended up saying Fulani herdsmen attacks and maim people while IPOB constitue public nuisance.


Abooki will always be Abooki
I haven't said they're not criminals , but deserves the full weight of the law when caught. The problem is , they don't get caught cos they're nomadic in nature.


Again, just like kanu, you guys have cognitive dissonance. From wanting secession, to referendum(after he was released from prison), to restructuring.

Having said that, I want you guys to be discerning enough in presenting your argument as regards herdsmen.

Animal husbandry is as old as man. Overnight, because of a criminal few, you want that means of livelihood of an ethnic group to be described as terrorism.

Are you against the few criminals among other herdsmen or the totality of them irrespective of their leaning when it comes to crime?

If I buy a drug from an Ibo medicine patent store or pharmaceutical company, and there's an adverse drug reaction , and this happens across the state. Are we to declare all igbo people selling drugs criminals and shut down every igbo owned pharmaceutical company and tag all them killers and have the law banning them from selling or making drugs?


Answer me
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by nextexcel: 11:35am On Sep 25, 2017
BALLOSKI:
yes! And the global community should respect our laws and approach to defeating terrorism. He that wear the shoe knows not only where it pinches, but when and how to remove it when the pain is unbearable.
Bro till Nigerians come together to agree on a given law,she has no law.
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by SLIDEwaxie(m): 11:45am On Sep 25, 2017
OjukwuWarBird:
Some people don't understand diplomatic language



What the US is telling Nigerians is that they should conduct a referendum like that of the Scottish Referendum






A true Christian ethnic group can never


1) force or beg a Muslim ethnic group to share the same country with them.


2) depend on the resources of a Muslim ethnic group for survival.


Why can't we.?



Because we know that our God aka Yahweh is always there for us.
you are wrong..

The US is simply saying,

If Nigeria shld approach them for arms sale and cited the fight against iPOB as the reason, they will not grant it.

If you don't understand, until the US senates proscribed Boko Haram as a terrorist organization, they refused to sell arms to Nigeria because they claimed they'll use it to abuse human rights.


Even as that may be, while US, waited, other countries like Russia and Israel, even Pakistan, where offering their military hardwares for Nigeria.

US consent is inconsequential
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by attackgat: 11:50am On Sep 25, 2017
BALLOSKI:
tell me the operational base of herdsmen, their leaders, where they burn down a police station, where they frisk travellers bus to see people of other tribe to kill, show me where they confronted the military or prevent them from passing , where they promised to tear Nigeria down in 24hrs , the tribe that's the object of attack of herdsmen, etc, then I'd tell you what they're.



Lets dispel some assumptions here. IPOB did not burn down any Police station, those who live around the station have since told the story of what led to the burning of the station by a mob who had initially gone there for help

As much as we did see a video of some young men asking if there were northerners on the bus, it is hasty to jump to the conclusion that the boys were IPOB members or if they were looking for Northerners because they wanted to kill them. So far, I have not heard of any Northerner killed

As for confronting the military or not allowing them to pass, thats too shallow of a reason to call people terrorists.

Threatening to burn Nigeria down, who doesnt make threats? The question is if the threat was carried out.

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Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 11:59pm On Sep 25, 2017
attackgat:


Lets dispel some assumptions here. IPOB did not burn down any Police station, those who live around the station have since told the story of what led to the burning of the station by a mob who had initially gone there for help

As much as we did see a video of some young men asking if there were northerners on the bus, it is hasty to jump to the conclusion that the boys were IPOB members or if they were looking for Northerners because they wanted to kill them. So far, I have not heard of any Northerner killed

As for confronting the military or not allowing them to pass, thats too shallow of a reason to call people terrorists.

Threatening to burn Nigeria down, who doesnt make threats? The question is if the threat was carried out.
this effervesce double standard. If that had happened somewhere in the north, won't have been hasty to place it on a certain group?

Kanu wasn't only talking, he walking the walk. You people kept saying it was just a threat . Are you saying it was wrong for a government to be proactive in the face of security challenges?

If someone says he's coming to kill you, so you'd wait until he carries out that act before act?


I no you're intelligent, but this should not come from you.
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by BALLOSKI: 12:01am On Sep 26, 2017
nextexcel:

Bro till Nigerians come together to agree on a given law,she has no law.
no matter what you think the laws are, they're the laws. No perfect law anywhere in the world.
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by dasanctuary(m): 12:15am On Sep 26, 2017
BALLOSKI:
That's my point!


Some so called educated people were toasting to that useless stance of the US embassy.

I said to myself, so what if the US refuses to see them as terrorist, what does that change? Is US God or just the self-acclaimed policeman of the world status they assume on any issue that does affect their interest?


The same people who deported abu hamza from the US for his way of preaching and even tagged him a terrorist , wants the authority in Nigeria to sit and watch a deranged boy drag us into another civil war by always preaching violence and goading his followers to kill people who are not of his tribe?

Referring to other tribes as "cockroaches" cost Rwandan 500, 000 lives , and they have learnt from it and everybody should learn from that. There are things you don't say or do in Rwanda despite democracy allowing freedom. They created the system they think works for them.

If trump is mad, are the people he employed to work from r him also mad?

Do they know the intelligence available to our security agency before the proscription was carried out? Is he doubting our intelligence unit? The same intelligence we've used to prevent attack on their embassy and on their soil? The same intelligence we used to inform them that abdulmutalib would attack and they should keep him under watch and they failed until that attack was carried out? Have we not been bursting Nigerian terrorist s trying to go to America and create trouble? This is ingratitude from the Americans we provide security for in our country.


I remember some of them complaining that FG government should have released Kanu when a competent court gave that order; now we know how has flouted every bail condition and has continued to cause trouble, yet , the stupid embassy didn't condemn all this . Now , through a competent court, IPOB was proscribed, they're issuing a statement to rubbish our laws and treat our court with contempt. Hypocrisy!


When America and her allies decided to tag Mandela a terrorist, we stood our ground, supported him and saw him as someone fighting a just cause. Is America trying to pay us back?

Do they have terrorism going or have a terrorist group operating on their soil for them to tell us how to identify a terrorist activities on our land?

Can Kaduna state tell Texas what it takes to deal with hurricane and how it feels to be hit be hit by one?



Am in love with this meh !!
Re: So What If The US Does Not Recognize IPOB As A Terrorist Group by Nobody: 2:34am On Sep 26, 2017
BALLOSKI:
That's my point!


Some so called educated people were toasting to that useless stance of the US embassy.

I said to myself, so what if the US refuses to see them as terrorist, what does that change? Is US God or just the self-acclaimed policeman of the world status they assume on any issue that does affect their interest?


The same people who deported abu hamza from the US for his way of preaching and even tagged him a terrorist , wants the authority in Nigeria to sit and watch a deranged boy drag us into another civil war by always preaching violence and goading his followers to kill people who are not of his tribe?

Referring to other tribes as "cockroaches" cost Rwandan 500, 000 lives , and they have learnt from it and everybody should learn from that. There are things you don't say or do in Rwanda despite democracy allowing freedom. They created the system they think works for them.

If trump is mad, are the people he employed to work from r him also mad?

Do they know the intelligence available to our security agency before the proscription was carried out? Is he doubting our intelligence unit? The same intelligence we've used to prevent attack on their embassy and on their soil? The same intelligence we used to inform them that abdulmutalib would attack and they should keep him under watch and they failed until that attack was carried out? Have we not been bursting Nigerian terrorist s trying to go to America and create trouble? This is ingratitude from the Americans we provide security for in our country.


I remember some of them complaining that FG government should have released Kanu when a competent court gave that order; now we know how has flouted every bail condition and has continued to cause trouble, yet , the stupid embassy didn't condemn all this . Now , through a competent court, IPOB was proscribed, they're issuing a statement to rubbish our laws and treat our court with contempt. Hypocrisy!


When America and her allies decided to tag Mandela a terrorist, we stood our ground, supported him and saw him as someone fighting a just cause. Is America trying to pay us back?

Do they have terrorism going or have a terrorist group operating on their soil for them to tell us how to identify a terrorist activities on our land?

Can Kaduna state tell Texas what it takes to deal with hurricane and how it feels to be hit be hit by one?
You opened a thread because it bothers you

Stop pretending

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