Nabeel Qureshi was an ex-muslim turned christian. Many christians know this man. One day during a talk, a woman, who is a christian, asked Nabeel Qureshi why God has refused to intervene in her case despite her asking God, thirty years ago, to heal her of multiple sclerosis. Nabeel QureSHIT, a brainwashed simpleton, told her that we humans take things for granted and how precious life is at the face of death(whatever that means). He also told her that God is teaching her something through her suffering (a suffering from 30 years). I saw how he talked while the woman was holding back her tears. Of course, I saw no healing and I wasn't surprised neither was I at the escape route taken by QureSHIT.

What baffled me is that no one talked about healing. Even the comments on the videos didn't stress why QureSHIT and Ravi Zacharias( who was present at the talk) didn't bother to conduct a healing on the woman. Instead the comments where saying how blessed Nabeel QureSHIT is in the word of knowledge and fruit of the spirit, some people even said his message helped them. Ravi Zacharias sat down there watching how QureSHIT was blabbing and eventually making the woman to sustain her faith and not to mind her sickness because God has a purpose. Sounds more like sweeping the problem under the carpet.

When I see christians enduring terminal ailments and telling themselves that God will heal them one day or they dismiss healing saying God has a plan and his will be done, I ask myself, what is that thing God can't achieve if you are healed now? The woman with multiple sclerosis was in tears and it broke my heart. It's emotional abuse (ie. If she was hurt at not getting answers rather than shedding tears of joys that God loves her). It was very wicked of QureSHIT. A year later, Nabeel QureSHIT was diagnosed with cancer and guess what he made a video at his final moments that God is able to heal him and he needs prayers.

This reminds me of one of the directors of God's not dead who was diagnosed with ALS . That director said that he believes God will heal but in the mean time, the doctors will take care of him and people should donate money. Nobody saw the foolishness in that as it was the case with QureSHIT. Why need people's prayers? Trust in the Lord nah, sebi God has a lesson. The fear of death was written over his face. Finally he died, the comments on the YouTube video didn't address why God didn't heal him instead they said God has called him home and he is in a better place.

When I look at this whole thing, it makes me wonder why people can be stupid like this and where we missed it. The hypocrisy, delusion and gullibility is too much and later one idiot will be asking me why I care despite the fact that I don't believe. This religion of a thing is a poison. As for Qureshi, I don't feel pity for him. Christians who are comfortable in life as very self-centred, things are going well for them are they are like 'God is good' but they refuse to take into account the suffering of christians who are not fortunate as they are. Their fortune is their own evidence that God is good. Indeed.

"Religious believers today, as in ancient times, are not as a rule much interested in theology. And not at all in the evolutionary steps that lead to the present day world religions. They are concerned instead with religious faith, and the benefits it provides."

"The creation myths explain all they need to know of deep history in order to maintain tribal unity. In times of change and danger, their personal faith promises stability, and peace. When faced by threat and competition from outside groups, the myths assure the believers that they are paramount in the sight of God. Religious faith offers the psychological security that uniquely comes from belonging to a group, and a divinely blessed one at that."

"At least within the immense throngs of Abrahamic faithful around the world, it promises eternal life after death. And in heaven, not hell. Especially if we choose the right denomination within the many available. And pledge to faithfully practice it's rituals."

Edward O. Wilson
The Social Conquest of Earth

dalaman:
"Religious believers today, as in ancient times, are not as a rule much interested in theology. And not at all in the evolutionary steps that lead to the present day world religions. They are concerned instead with religious faith, and the benefits it provides."

"The creation myths explain all they need to know of deep history in order to maintain tribal unity. In times of change and danger, their personal faith promises stability, and peace. When faced by threat and competition from outside groups, the myths assure the believers that they are paramount in the sight of God. Religious faith offers the psychological security that uniquely comes from belonging to a group, and a divinely blessed one at that."

"At least within the immense throngs of Abrahamic faithful around the world, it promises eternal life after death. And in heaven, not hell. Especially if we choose the right denomination within the many available. And pledge to faithfully practice it's rituals."

Edward O. Wilson
The Social Conquest of Earth

Nevertheless, people should find a way to met their needs without embracing the ridiculous.

Christianity is a façade, the whole foundation from start to finish is on sinking sand. It can only be believed by the monumentally naïve or the willfully dishonest. Qureshi belongs to the latter

It is vapid , illogical, filled with absolute bull
and maintained with a combination of make believe
and threats

even if there's a creator (s), there's absolutely NO reason to believe he/she/it/they interfere in our affairs

Religion, a thin Veil that's thicker and stronger than titanium. Once your eyes gets opened, you wonder what has been holding you back.

FellepHq:
Religion, a thin Veil that's thicker and stronger than titanium. Once your eyes gets opened, you wonder what has been holding you back.

so true bro, so true

hopefulLandlord:
Christianity is a façade, the whole foundation from start to finish is on sinking sand. It can only be believed by the monumentally naïve or the willfully dishonest. Qureshi belongs to the latter

It is vapid , illogical, filled with absolute bull
and maintained with a combination of make believe
and threats

even if there's a creator (s), there's absolutely NO reason to believe he/she/it/they interfere in our affairs

What a pity. I really don't know where to start from or how to address your case. But this I believe :

2 Timothy 3:1-8 KJV
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. [2] For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [3] Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, [4] Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; [5] Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. [6] For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [7] Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. [8] Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.


It is foolishness or rather madness for anyone to think and say there is no God.

If you would like to know, ask God to show or give you proofs that He exists.

There is non that will not die one day. Dont let your ignorance destroy you. Whether you believe or not , God is there and does not change.

Do you know the prophecy the Bible gave concerning INTERNET AND COMPUTER 2000 yrs back when there was no Banking system? Read this and think:


Revelation 13:15-17 KJV
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. [16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: [17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Very shortly people will no longer go about with ATM cards. The chip at the back of the card with be implanted in hand or in the forehead. But people will continue to say TECHNOLOGY, ignorantly. Whereas anyone that takes this mark will never make heaven.

Info is being gathered into the computer and via internet little by little through BVN , CARD REGISTRATION etc which will make any govt to be able to control what you receive and monitor what goes into ur account. When there is complete cashless policy globally, how much tax to deduct and penalty to impose on people will be easy for any govt.
If the govt does not want you to buy or sell, it will be easy.

No time, I have somethings to atrend to.
You can call me names , but you will discover that your young guys of nowadays know nothing than to abuse , speak grammer and have fun while the devil is focused on his agenda to destroy.

God knew this things and gave this warning even when there was no banks. This world is heading to an end.

That was how Christians on this forum were making jest of Sheikh Ahmad Deedat, a man who exposed Christianity for more than 50years and died of stroke at the ripe age of 87years. This Christians were all shouting Jesus punished him, how can their jesus leave a man to expose him for 50 years(in which he's videos, books, journals, etc are all over the world)? Why didn't he punish him when he just started before the damage of his reputation was done?
Even if their jesus wants to show his power, why didn't he destroy along side him all the materials he created?

If indeed we're to apply the same standards for those Christians that made fun of Ahmad Deedat, then no doubt, God punished Nabeel for speaking against Islam.

Hypocrites!!! **spits on their cone and flatheeads**

Demmzy15:
That was how Christians on this forum were making jest of Sheikh Ahmad Deedat, a man who exposed Christianity for more than 50years and died of stroke at the ripe age of 87years. This Christians were all shouting Jesus punished him, how can their jesus leave a man to expose him for 50 years(in which he's videos, books, journals, etc are all over the Internet)? Why didn't he punish him when he just started before the damage of his reputation was done?

If indeed we're to apply the same standards for those Christians that made fun of Ahmad Deedat, then no doubt, God punished Nabeel for speaking against Islam.

Hypocrites!!! **spits on their cone and flatheeads**

would you be so kind to provide a link to the thread in which Christians were making jest of Deedat? I'd love to have a look

hopefulLandlord:


would you be so kind to provide a link to the thread in which Christians were making jest of Deedat? I'd love to have a look

Here https://www.nairaland.com/2935528/silenced-ahmed-deedat

Demmzy15:
Here https://www.nairaland.com/2935528/silenced-ahmed-deedat

thanks, just went through the thread and its funny how Olaadegbu couldn't provide any proof of what Deedat supposedly said which was the basis for their suspecting its Jesus that killed him, he kept deflecting and deflecting but I like how most Muslims there didn't entertain the tactics but kept asking him for the proof

going by Olaadegbu's logic, you can just conclude Qureshi was killed by Allah because he once said "If Allah is the true God and Islam is true, let me die of stomach cancer" and when Christians then ask for proof of the words you can also deflect and deflect

hopefulLandlord:


thanks, just went through the thread and its funny how Olaadegbu couldn't provide any proof of what Deedat supposedly said which was the basis for their suspecting its Jesus that killed him, he kept deflecting and deflecting but I like how most Muslims there didn't entertain the tactics but kept asking him for the proof

going by Olaadegbu's logic, you can just conclude Qureshi was killed by Allah because he once said "If Allah is the true God and Islam is true, let me die of stomach cancer" and when Christians then ask for proof of the words you can also deflect and deflect

Thank you for this undiluted truth!

Demmzy15:
Here https://www.nairaland.com/2935528/silenced-ahmed-deedat

and as usual analice107 was rejoicing over the thread and agreed with that funny character oladegbu. she should come and see her fellow Christian allah killed for denouncing him na

bunch of jokers.

Humanistme:


and as usual analice107 was rejoicing over the thread and agreed with that funny character oladegbu. she should come and see her fellow Christian allah killed for denouncing him na

bunch of jokers.

Sad reality!

Humanistme:


and as usual analice107 was rejoicing over the thread and agreed with that funny character oladegbu. she should come and see her fellow Christian allah killed for denouncing him na

bunch of jokers.

I will not read the Op. Just saw your mention, because it's you, i won't read the Op. Do what you think you can.

analice107:

I will not read the Op. Just saw your mention, because it's you, i won't read the Op. Do what you think you can.

okay

Demmzy15:


That was how Christians on this forum were making jest of Sheikh Ahmad Deedat, a man who exposed Christianity for more than 50years and died of stroke at the ripe age of 87years. This Christians were all shouting Jesus punished him, how can their jesus leave a man to expose him for 50 years(in which he's videos, books, journals, etc are all over the world)? Why didn't he punish him when he just started before the damage of his reputation was done?
Even if their jesus wants to show his power, why didn't he destroy along side him all the materials he created?

If indeed we're to apply the same standards for those Christians that made fun of Ahmad Deedat, then no doubt, God punished Nabeel for speaking against Islam.

Hypocrites!!! **spits on their cone and flatheeads**

Is that what you believe?

hopefulLandlord:


thanks, just went through the thread and its funny how Olaadegbu couldn't provide any proof of what Deedat supposedly said which was the basis for their suspecting its Jesus that killed him, he kept deflecting and deflecting but I like how most Muslims there didn't entertain the tactics but kept asking him for the proof

going by Olaadegbu's logic, you can just conclude Qureshi was killed by Allah because he once said "If Allah is the true God and Islam is true, let me die of stomach cancer" and when Christians then ask for proof of the words you can also deflect and deflect

Do you also believe God punished him for speaking against Islam?

OLAADEGBU:


Do you also believe God punished him for speaking against Islam?

Aimless question.

I'm just seeing this mention now but its never too late to throw illogicalities in the gutters where it belongs so here we go!

enilove:


What a pity. I really don't know where to start from or how to address your case. But this I believe :

2 Timothy 3:1-8 KJV
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. [2] For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [3] Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, [4] Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; [5] Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. [6] For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [7] Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. [8] Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

believing something doesn't make it true

I once believed there's a monster under my bed, heck I once believed Batman and Lex Luthor are real, I "religiously" read their comics, watched the movies and bought their memorabilia but at the point I believed those things, it didn't make them real

nevertheless, I see the verses you posted up there and it deserved some healthy skeptical scrutiny

let me test your sincerity here by asking which of these things in those verses you quoted as signs of the end time weren't happening even before the bible was written, go ahead and point to just one

It is foolishness or rather madness for anyone to think and say there is no God.

"There's no Yahweh" is different from "there's no creator"

the difference is actually very huge, I'm saying the former while you're putting the latter in my mouth

Yahweh Allah (abrahamic god) does not exist! that is my claim!

If you would like to know, ask God to show or give you proofs that He exists.

I did, I got the same reply one gets from asking nonexistent entities questions

There is non that will not die one day. Dont let your ignorance destroy you. Whether you believe or not , God is there and does not change.

how does people dying prove anything?

Do you know the prophecy the Bible gave concerning INTERNET AND COMPUTER 2000 yrs back when there was no Banking system? Read this and think:


Revelation 13:15-17 KJV
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. [16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: [17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Very shortly people will no longer go about with ATM cards. The chip at the back of the card with be implanted in hand or in the forehead. But people will continue to say TECHNOLOGY, ignorantly. Whereas anyone that takes this mark will never make heaven.

Info is being gathered into the computer and via internet little by little through BVN , CARD REGISTRATION etc which will make any govt to be able to control what you receive and monitor what goes into ur account. When there is complete cashless policy globally, how much tax to deduct and penalty to impose on people will be easy for any govt.
If the govt does not want you to buy or sell, it will be easy.

No time, I have somethings to atrend to.
You can call me names , but you will discover that your young guys of nowadays know nothing than to abuse , speak grammer and have fun while the devil is focused on his agenda to destroy.

God knew this things and gave this warning even when there was no banks. This world is heading to an end.

this is non sequitur BTW I don't call people names

OLAADEGBU:

Do you also believe God punished him for speaking against Islam?

this is a loaded question and its even non sequitur

read the post you replied to again, this time S L O W L Y

Martinez19:


Aimless question.

Is it aimless because you don't think God exists?

hopefulLandlord:


this is a loaded question and its even non sequitur

read the post you replied to again, this time S L O W L Y

Why are you even bothered as to who muted him since you insist God does not exist?

OLAADEGBU:


Why are you even bothered as to who muted him since you insist God does not exist?

who says he is bothered about the death of d guy, it's just to show the foolishness and hypocrisy of you and your hypeman analice107.

Demmzy15:
Here https://www.nairaland.com/2935528/silenced-ahmed-deedat

From this thread and the unchristlike behaviour of Olaadegbu there, one can easily conclude that Nigerian Christians are idiotic psychopaths. I bet they didn't know karma was going to arrange a similar scenario against them within a few years and now one of their own succumbed to a similar ailment at an even younger age.
May the dead, Christians or Muslims or atheists or whatever, rest in peace. May the Christian god help Olaadegbu and Analice107 find their humanity and truly love their enemies like Jesus Christ taught them to.
Can't believe Christians can be so heartless.

NPComplete:


From this thread and the unchristlike behaviour of Olaadegbu there, one can easily conclude that Nigerian Christians are idiotic psychopaths. I bet they didn't know karma was going to arrange a similar scenario against them within a few years and now one of their own succumbed to a similar ailment at an even younger age.
May the dead, Christians or Muslims or atheists or whatever, rest in peace. May the Christian god help Olaadegbu and Analice107 find their humanity and truly love their enemies like Jesus Christ taught them to.
Can't believe Christians can be so heartless.

Those two eeh, they are the worst set of Christians. there are other Christians on nairaland who no matter how dogmatic or anti Islam they are you can never find them in that kind of thread.

Humanistme:


Those two eeh, they are the worst set of Christians. there are other Christians on nairaland who no matter how dogmatic or anti Islam they are you can never find them in that kind of thread.

Meanwhile one of them is a staunch Deeper lifer, the so called holiness church. What a laugh !

Martinez19:
Nabeel Qureshi was an ex-muslim turned christian. Many christians know this man. One day during a talk, a woman, who is a christian, asked Nabeel Qureshi why God has refused to intervene in her case despite her asking God, thirty years ago, to heal her of multiple sclerosis. Nabeel QureSHIT, a brainwashed simpleton, told her that we humans take things for granted and how precious life is at the face of death(whatever that means). He also told her that God is teaching her something through her suffering (a suffering from 30 years). I saw how he talked while the woman was holding back her tears. Of course, I saw no healing and I wasn't surprised neither was I at the escape route taken by QureSHIT.

What baffled me is that no one talked about healing. Even the comments on the videos didn't stress why QureSHIT and Ravi Zacharias( who was present at the talk) didn't bother to conduct a healing on the woman. Instead the comments where saying how blessed Nabeel QureSHIT is in the word of knowledge and fruit of the spirit, some people even said his message helped them. Ravi Zacharias sat down there watching how QureSHIT was blabbing and eventually making the woman to sustain her faith and not to mind her sickness because God has a purpose. Sounds more like sweeping the problem under the carpet.

When I see christians enduring terminal ailments and telling themselves that God will heal them one day or they dismiss healing saying God has a plan and his will be done, I ask myself, what is that thing God can't achieve if you are healed now? The woman with multiple sclerosis was in tears and it broke my heart. It's emotional abuse (ie. If she was hurt at not getting answers rather than shedding tears of joys that God loves her). It was very wicked of QureSHIT. A year later, Nabeel QureSHIT was diagnosed with cancer and guess what he made a video at his final moments that God is able to heal him and he needs prayers.

This reminds me of one of the directors of God's not dead who was diagnosed with ALS . That director said that he believes God will heal but in the mean time, the doctors will take care of him and people should donate money. Nobody saw the foolishness in that as it was the case with QureSHIT. Why need people's prayers? Trust in the Lord nah, sebi God has a lesson. The fear of death was written over his face. Finally he died, the comments on the YouTube video didn't address why God didn't heal him instead they said God has called him home and he is in a better place.

When I look at this whole thing, it makes me wonder why people can be stupid like this and where we missed it. The hypocrisy, delusion and gullibility is too much and later one idiot will be asking me why I care despite the fact that I don't believe. This religion of a thing is a poison. As for Qureshi, I don't feel pity for him. Christians who are comfortable in life as very self-centred, things are going well for them are they are like 'God is good' but they refuse to take into account the suffering of christians who are not fortunate as they are. Their fortune is their own evidence that God is good. Indeed.

bro I dey feel you you said nothing but the absolute truth

FellepHq:
Religion, a thin Veil that's thicker and stronger than titanium. Once your eyes gets opened, you wonder what has been holding you back.

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Meanwhile one of them is a staunch Deeper lifer, the so called holiness church. What a laugh !

This is what surprises me the most. Olaadegbu is an example of everything wrong with staunch deeperlifers. They dress and act modest. But their hearts are cold black stones. No empathy or intelligence whatsoever. Only religious bigotry.

Humanistme:


who says he is bothered about the death of d guy, it's just to show the foolishness and hypocrisy of you and your hypeman analice107.

analice107 is a girl, her name is anastasia!