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| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Habyz(m): 5:10pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Cire80:You keep saying these things but you fail to point out a single proof of it. Why is that? |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Habyz(m): 5:39pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Lilimax:What is the Arabic word for God? |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by misterh(m): 5:50pm On Oct 06, 2017*. Modified: 6:07pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Olabenjamen22:Of all the gods the Arabs had before Islam, tell me one that was named Allah? What you people want to ignore is that Allah means God in Arabic. As regards the prophet's fathers name, if not that you have closed your mind to knowledge, you would have known that that singular act proves that Allah is the Arabic term for God. It's just like an Ifa or Obatala worshiper naming his son Olorunfemi or Oluseun. It wasn't as if the idolaters did not know there existed God, they just believed they could reach him via their numerous deities. This Supreme Being was called Allah in their language. Even before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) became a prophet, he was always spending time thinking about a Supreme Being. You cannot even dissociate the Arabic language from this, no matter how you try. There are Arabs who are Christians. What name do you think they call God in their language? Olabenjamen22:Oh please! Save yourself from ignorance and read. Who told you Allah only understands Arabic? I guess you reached this fallacy of a conclusion because Muslims pray in Arabic. Are you saying then that non-Arab Muslims are not Muslims? A Yoruba Muslim could pray to Allah in his language by saying Olorun and he would be referring to Allah. If you are not dogmatic, you would know that Allah means Olorun. It is a fact and whether you accept it or not is your own problem. Olabenjamen22:You don't care about my religion yet here you are in a thread strictly for Muslims. You clicked on the declaration before you could comment on this thread and you mean to tell me you don't care about my religion. Who is then the stupid one? Whether you accept it or not, it is your personal problem; Allah means God and God means Allah. Only difference between the two words is the language they are written in. It's just like a Yoruba man telling an Igbo man that Chineke is different from Olorun. |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Habyz(m): 5:52pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Myde4naija:Differentiation is essential when saying things like this, how else would you know the god or God being talked about? |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Nobody: 5:55pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
all christians are ticks dat cannot do without muslims |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Nobody: 6:01pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
u guyz keep buzzing in an Islamic section 70% of our topic u will c a christians poke nosing saying nonsense |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by misterh(m): 6:08pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Habyz:I have asked this too and no one has answered me. |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Nobody: 6:19pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
misterh:Allah [ is one true God] |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Abumilla(m): 7:04pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Rashduct4luv:jazakallahi khairan |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Abumilla(m): 7:04pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Rashduct4luv:jazakallahu khairan |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Olabenjamen22(m): 8:57pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
misterh:Lol, am the one that suppose to ask you the name of the idol your Muhammad father is priesthood over that make him name himself slave of allah. Lol and common this is not about a language but about the entity behind the name. misterh:Really? Ifa worshipers bearing olu and olorun... You are kidding right? Is like you don't know that the person you are chating with is a core yoruba. Even ifa follower cannot bear olu not to talk of the priest. misterh:Is like it time you begin to do research. If i may ask what is the name Arab Christian are calling almighty God before your Islam was established, maybe you should look into the word "KHODA" misterh:I guess you need to refer to your previous comment, lol well i will take you people serious the day you call your prayer in your dialect. Lol misterh:Lol another lie, even if a yoruba Muslim want to come down from bus he rather invoke the word Allah, not to talk of praying, well i will take you serious the day you people call your prayer with your dialect. misterh:Lol dogmatic indeed, i rather be a dogmatic being with prove than be a die hard of lie. misterh:Lol i won't have been here if you people don't tag my religion on your stupid post. misterh:Lol, the only stupid one here Is the person that look for trouble and then run under his bed to hide(oat) you cannot talk about my religion and expect me not to reply. Peace |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by liasmiram: 9:03pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
jidxin:y.Have you forgetten that there can never be mistakes in a book of God.How come your so called 'oldest book' has many mistakes and errors and has continously been edited? |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by sureboijesse(m): 9:09pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
wellmax:. Yes we have a GOD...not Allah........the apha nf omega ..the I am that I am!!!!!!GOD almighty |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Myde4naija(m): 9:12pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Habyz:you mindset speaks volume, when trinitarian talked about God you will want to say is one God but in reality they are Gods or gods depending on how you prefer to look at it. |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by BALLOSKI: 9:19pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Littlemike:I do, I meant the original Bible, that it was sent by God. |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Myde4naija(m): 9:23pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Olabenjamen22: Olabenjamen22: Lol. Dump reasoning, i guess you hear all this rubbish from your imam, well next don't use 100% because it really show how dumb you are. Lol i guess your imam was the one that told you your allah is the creator. Lol well i too am 100% sure that your allah is Satan himself. Lol revoke me if am wrong Calling me dump is a praise and not insult, the ugly looking creature you attached as well isn't blaspheme. According to your bible quote I share the same thought with you, father and son are different entity then why trying so hard to explain how they are one at the same time. |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by malvisguy212: 9:26pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Rashduct4luv:https://www.nairaland.com/3785536/two-gods-islam Muslims often declare that Islam is a great monotheistic religion. Is this true? well, in this thread I will prove why this claim is absolutely false. all the evidence are there in the Quran and hadith. When a Muslim is engaged in prayer (salat), it is forbidden for him to respond to anyone who interrupts his prayer. Muslims, out of respect for Allah, will not interrupt a fellow-Muslim while he is praying. However, Muhammad is an exception to this rule.He tells Muslims that even if they are performing prayers to Allah, they must respond to him when he calls them. Muhammad invoked Surah 8:24 to justify his case. Surah 8:24: “O you who believe! Answer the call of Allah AND HIS APOSTLE when he calls you to that which gives you life; and know that Allah intervenes between man and his heart, and that to Him you shall be gathered.” (Shakir) Carefully consider now how the Prophet of Islam clarified the meaning and the application of the above Qur’anic verse. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 226: Narrated Abu Said Al-Mualla: While I was praying, the Prophet passed by and called me, but I did not go to him till I had finished my prayer. When I went to him, he said, “What prevented you from coming?” I said, “I was praying.” He said, “Didn’t Allah say” “O you who believe GIVE YOUR RESPONSE TO Allah and to His APOSTLE.” (Surah 8:24) LET US ANALYZE THIS QUR'ANIC VERSE WITH THE ABOVE HADITH. Muslims are required to honor Muhammad above Allah. why did I say this ? it may appear to Muslims that Muhammad was only demanding his right but there is MORE to this. It is important to note that each time Muhammad interrupts the prayer of a Muslim, he simultaneously interrupts Allah from receiving the prayer of that Muslim. This means that Muhammad has the authority to interrupt even Allah from receiving the prayers of his worshipers. Between Allah and Muhammad, Muslims are specifically commanded to give their priority to Muhammad even when it involves something as sacred as their worship of Allah. Is this not a subtle form of polytheism? Does not this exalt Muhammad to a position equal or even greater than Allah? The Shahada is the Islamic profession of faith. It is the first and most important of the Five Pillars of Islam. It is a testimony of the Islamic Faith which declares: “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger.” Anyone who does not recite the Shahada is not a Muslim. However, a Muslim cannot be a Muslim by invoking the name of Allah only when reciting the Shahada. For his Shahada to be legitimate, it is absolutely necessary for the Muslim to include the name of Muhammad. Believing in Allah alone is not enough to be a Muslim. A Muslim must also believe in Muhammad: Surah 49:15: The believers are only those who believe in Allah and HIS MESSENGER . (Shakir) Believing only in the teachings of Allah with the exclusion of the teachings of Muhammad will result in the loss of many essential details that are vital for the salvation of Muslims. This is because the Qur’an does not contain all the regulations that are required of a Muslim to live out his faith. Therefore, a devout Muslim must also know and obey the Sunnah (sayings and deeds) of Muhammad in order to follow Islam. A Muslim cannot attain Paradise if he does not believe in the Sunnah of Muhammad. Thus, the teachings of Muhammad are elevated to the same intensity as the teachings of Allah in the Qur’an. In fact, to escape the fires of Hell, a Muslim must obey both Allah and Muhammad. Surah 4:14: And whoever disobeys Allah and HIS MESSENGER and goes beyond His limits, He will cause him to enter fire to abide in it, and he shall have an abasing chastisement. (Shakir) yes, I know Muslims will deny this , and even insult me , However, the reality belies their claim. In actual practice, Muslims merge the words of Allah with the words of a man. And by recognizing them both as equally binding for their salvation, Muslims elevate Muhammad to the status of Allah. If the teachings of Muhammad are recorded in the Qur’an, then there is no valid reason to object. However, since his teachings are not included in the Qur’an, it shows that Muslims are actually required to submit to teachings based on two different sources. |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Habyz(m): 9:31pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Myde4naija:The Trinitarian doctrine says God the Father, the son and holy spirit. It refers to God being three beings, god I'm talking about are the sango, ogun, zeus, poseidon and so on. |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by lordcyno: 9:41pm On Oct 06, 2017*. Modified: 3:27pm On Sep 01, 2020 |
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| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Olabenjamen22(m): 10:50pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Myde4naija:Lol, and you Calling my religion xtain instead of Christianity is not an insult right? Actually am suppose to abuse your religion not you yourself, and you calling other people God an invade god is not blasphemy right? Bros you started it and i give you back. Lol Myde4naija:even if i explain it to you, you won't understand so instead of wasting your time on what you cannot understand why don't you take your time to revoke my statement of me calling him Satan, and mind you we don't share the same view together. Lol |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Cire80: 11:40pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Habyz:answer me. Who are the people of the book? What commandments did your Qur'an give you about them? |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Myde4naija(m): 6:30am On Oct 07, 2017 |
Olabenjamen22:did you know why I won't understand? Because you don't are confused about the whole concept of Trinity yourself so you can't give what you don't have,........frankly speaking |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Littlemike(m): 8:44am On Oct 07, 2017 |
People are actually foolish, including this Nairaland moderators. I can't believe they remove my post. damn you!!! |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Rashduct4luv(op): 9:42am On Oct 07, 2017 |
malvisguy212:Alhamdulillah, Firstly, In Islam obeying Prophet Muhammad is obeying Allah because as he receives inspiration from Him. It is analogical for the obedience of humans to the Prophet be similar to the obedience to their Lord. Compare Prophet Nuh (Noah) calling the people to the ark and Prophet Musa (Moses) calling the people to walk with him through the red sea. The People obeyed the Prophets which is obeying their Lord. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allaah . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:80] Allaah described obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him) as being a part of obedience to Him. Then He made a connection between obedience to Him and obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him): “O you who believe! Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:59] And this same verse above is a confirmation that we need to obey the Traditions of the Prophet. So automatically, we have the Qur'an and the Sunnah as our constitution. |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by Lukonline(m): 10:48am On Oct 08, 2017 |
misterh:Arabic word for God is illah. While the Arabic word for the one true God is Allah. You should be OK now |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by misterh(m): 11:50am On Oct 08, 2017 |
Lukonline:You're mixing it up. The Arabic word for god or deity is ilah while Allah is the Arabic word for God. |
| Re: Misconceptions About Allah (part 1 Of 3): Is Allah God? by jidxin(m): 8:26am On Oct 09, 2017 |
liasmiram:ye read cos ye lacks understanding. No error no mistakes in d Book. Even Mohammed read d book but cos he needed fame he twisted it. He grew up wit a monk nd he just had to also copy d Catholics wit d use of rosary nd mind u Mohammed doesn't even know whr hez going. But dont forget Mohammed himself revere the Christians wen he said wen u re confused seek d ppl of d book |
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