codeManiac:
Just when I thought people are wiser that fighting language/framework wars, another one starts again.
For the guy arguing spring's death, can you show us what you have done in your shiny new language/framework?

And I heard something like legacy??

Where do you think money comes in for the enterprise? node that barely understands its ecosystem?

Like I said, am not hear to fight language wars. But saying a framework is dead sounds too non technical IMHO.

Languages are tools to solve problems. Until you say a problem Spring cannot solve, hold thy peace!

every language has it's weakness and strength. you can't use one language/framework for everything. if you followed well, you would have seen that I recommended nodejs/php for web development. And my major issue with spring is the use of XML.

Elitecoderng:
every language has it's weakness and strength. you can't use one language/framework for everything. if you followed well, you would have seen that I recommended nodejs/php for web development. And my major issue with spring is the use of XML.

Since you aren't aware Spring support POJO as an alternative to XML you should have shut up but no, you even called it dead and didn't know spring is used for other platform asides web. I begged you subtly but you wouldn't listen.

Desyner:
Since you aren't aware Spring support POJO as an alternative to XML you should have shut up but no, you even called it dead and didn't know spring is used for other platform asides web. I begged you subtly but you wouldn't listen.

I'm done with you. good luck

Elitecoderng:
I'm done with you. good luck

Mad man. Watch where you type your trash next time.

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According to dzone Node.js on server-class hardware results in heavy utilization of one CPU core while leaving the other CPU cores underutilized... hence, the solution is not scalable enough.Node js is a great framework it can't compete with Java EE

PHP/python/ruby/c# can match with JavaEE

PHP can't , Python could , heard Ruby takes too much, Java seems alright

Desyner:
Mad man. Watch where you type your trash next time.

honestly, you are really a slowpoke. someone wished you good luck and all you could do was to label him a mad man? SMH ! this a forum and it's meant for people to share ideas irrespective of which side they choose. scroll down and check it's clearly highlighted "Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or
uploads on Nairaland". If you don't like it, go and create your own forum.

Elitecoderng:
every language has it's weakness and strength. you can't use one language/framework for everything. if you followed well, you would have seen that I recommended nodejs/php for web development. And my major issue with spring is the use of XML.

This statement is wrong, sadly I can't back JavaEE or Spring because am not an Enterprise Java person, I work with codemaniac and he can give you more insights, Spring does a lot of Integration out of the box and its quite stable and strong, my knowledge is limited to building Portals and SPA, codemanianc has worked intensively with Spring and trust me, NodeJS can't handle what we do at work, Node works on only 1 CPU and its good for quick I/O operations , we've had needs to have multiple jobs running Java handles that, not sure about Node. Spring Framework is powerful the only reason am not a fan is memory usage, I'd rather invest in Golang. Spring is not dead from it, your excuse of XML is weird as Spring boot uses Java Configuration even for configuring beans, I can't remember when last ave had to do XML config, also Java supports every Database, especially the JDBC Template its database agnostic if you worked with it you would know, so am surprised why you cited that as an example, Java supports most db and has more open source tools (quality) than any platform I know. Am not a Java EE person yet I appreciate it. You need to read and research more. I'd takenup your argument if you mentioned Golang or Scala

yahoofak:
honestly, you are really a slowpoke. someone wished you good luck and all you could do was to label him a mad man? SMH ! this a forum and it's meant for people to share ideas irrespective of which side they choose. scroll down and check it's clearly highlighted "Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or
uploads on Nairaland". If you don't like it, go and create your own forum.

You are another mad man, probably same mad man in another moniker. Why wish me a fake good luck when he derailed the thread with lies and blind arguements? Didn't he read the Nairaland rule when derailing with lies ?
Retærdéd Idiot.

pcguru1:


This statement is wrong, sadly I can't back JavaEE or Spring because am not an Enterprise Java person, I work with codemaniac and he can give you more insights, Spring does a lot of Integration out of the box and its quite stable and strong, my knowledge is limited to building Portals and SPA, codemanianc has worked intensively with Spring and trust me, NodeJS can't handle what we do at work, Node works on only 1 CPU and its good for quick I/O operations , we've had needs to have multiple jobs running Java handles that, not sure about Node. Spring Framework is powerful the only reason am not a fan is memory usage, I'd rather invest in Golang. Spring is not dead from it, your excuse of XML is weird as Spring boot uses Java Configuration even for configuring beans, I can't remember when last ave had to do XML config, also Java supports every Database, especially the JDBC Template its database agnostic if you worked with it you would know, so am surprised why you cited that as an example, Java supports most db and has more open source tools (quality) than any platform I know. Am not a Java EE person yet I appreciate it. You need to read and research more. I'd takenup your argument if you mentioned Golang or Scala

check the previous posts, someone highlighted that spring boot is still new. nodejs supports multiple CPU, never used it though. https://nodejs.org/api/cluster.html

Desyner:
You are another mad man, probably same mad man in another moniker. Why wish me a fake good luck when he derailed the thread with lies and blind arguements? Didn't he read the Nairaland rule when derailing with lies ?
Retærdéd Idiot.

doesn't change the fact that you are a slowpoke.

Elitecoderng:
check the previous posts, someone highlighted that spring boot is still new. nodejs supports multiple CPU, never used it though. https://nodejs.org/api/cluster.html

You've basically written Spring off based on preference am sorry but I don't think i can take your opinion serious if you have no concrete reasons, multiple companies using it all can't be that stupid to use it and not use node for enterprise app, all the best bro.

yahoofak:
doesn't change the fact that you are a slowpoke.

by the time i finish with you on this moniker you will change moniker by force. Retardèd foøl. So you ignore the rule you broke with your first moniker and want to tell me about rules because I exposed you as a fraud you are.

pcguru1:


You've basically written Spring off based on preference am sorry but I don't think i can take your opinion serious if you have no concrete reasons, multiple companies using it all can't be that stupid to use it and not use node for enterprise app, all the best bro.

That dude still doesn't realize Spring is a framework. Leave the fraud alone. It is clear to all.

Desyner:
That dude still doesn't realize Spring is a framework. Leave the fraud alone. It is clear to all.

Exactly that's what caught my attention , Spring is just a framework around JavaEE , as I researched it when I was giving a task, he thinks Spring is the same as node when he should be comparing the JVM with NodeJS as NodeJS isn't the language but the environment. Its sad I tend to waste too much of time responding. I should be like codemaniac

pcguru1:


Exactly that's what caught my attention , Spring is just a framework around JavaEE , as I researched it when I was giving a task, he thinks Spring is the same as node when he should be comparing the JVM with NodeJS as NodeJS isn't the language but the environment. Its sad I tend to waste too much of time responding. I should be like codemaniac

I'm not arguing with you. I recommended nodejs for web development not jvm vs whatever. accept it! you invested in one technology and you find it hard to move on.

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yahoofak:
doesn't change the fact that you are a slowpoke.

ignore the kid. he is just frustrated.

Elitecoderng:
I'm not arguing with you. I recommended nodejs for web development not jvm vs whatever. accept it! you invested in one technology and you find it hard to move on.

Recommendation is one thing writing Spring off without a conclusive reason is a waste of our time. Tell us why Node is better, tell us your case study, how it scales and handle loads not because you love writing callbacks and clean code. I use NodeJs for CLI because I find writing for web with node a mess.

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Elitecoderng:
I'm not arguing with you. I recommended nodejs for web development not jvm vs whatever. accept it! you invested in one technology and you find it hard to move on.

You are an irredeemable rétard.
Who told you web development was of interest to him/her here møron ?
Read the topic again and stop decieving your miserable self across monikers here. It says "Java EE & Spring Developers in Here" you jumped in and said "Spring is dead" because it uses XML for config. Who told you he doesn't like XML stúpid kid ?

Elitecoderng:
ignore the kid. he is just frustrated.

Stop quoting your miserable self behind multiple monikers Idìot. Your dåftness remains clear across multiple monikers.

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Desyner


What UI front end framework do u use with JAVAEE.... (Angular, bootstrap,jquery,vuejs) ?

Elitecoderng:
ignore the kid. he is just frustrated.

it's obvious. the programming section is littered with his threads requesting for help. that's the major problem with these kids, they hate to meet people who are better than them. just check out this thread www.nairaland.com/4013721/updates-forloopabuja they are all over nairaland. delete the link to the post from your facebook timeline abeg. no need to make the dummy popular.

Elitecoderng:
every language has it's weakness and strength. you can't use one language/framework for everything. if you followed well, you would have seen that I recommended nodejs/php for web development. And my major issue with spring is the use of XML.

You spoke too soon - when really you were unqualified to make the comments you were making.
Java had long since introduced Annotations, as far back as java 5 (2005!!). If you read bruce eckels thinking in java (2004) , you'll see a chapter on annotations. Many frameworks were using xml for configuration but with each new iteration, they moved most of the xml heavy stuff into the annotation side. You can configure spring and other modern frameworks using annotations. Infact, xml, is a dying standard of data interchange. heard of jason? It was invented to overcome the verbosity of xml.
node.js, is single threaded. Get that right. C doesnt even know what a thread is!!!
These languages were no meant for multithreaded, concurrent programming.
Node is very fast for the sole reason that it doesnt create a new thread for each request!!! unlike other http servers!!. I'm not a spring/java ee fellow but these things are common knowledge.

yahoofak:
it's obvious. the programming section is littered with his threads requesting for help. that's the major problem with these kids, they hate to meet people who are better than them. just check out this thread www.nairaland.com/4013721/updates-forloopabuja they are all over nairaland. delete the link to the post from your facebook timeline abeg. no need to make the dummy popular.

Matured idìot who doesn't know Spring is a framework. Bring out my threads that's littering this section.
You think you are better even though you can't comprehend simple English or differentiate between a framework and a VM.
Oya switch moniker and attack again, animæl!

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Desyner


What UI front end framework do u use with JAVAEE.... (Angular, bootstrap,jquery,vuejs) ?

I use W3 or plain js/css/html for now.

Desyner:
I use W3 or plain js/css/html for now.

Frontend framework with Java EE = dope ui/ux (material and elegant)

Ur previous knowledge on frameworks will help.

I recommend bootstraps

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Frontend framework with Java EE = dope ui/ux (material and elegant)

Ur previous knowledge on frameworks will help.

I recommend bootstraps

I learnt and understood Bootstrap but don't like it even though it is less error prone and excellent for prototyping. For now I prefer W3 cos its light weight and less verbose. I might ressurect my Bootstrap knowlege one day.

Desyner:
I learnt and understood Bootstrap but don't like it even though it is less error prone and excellent for prototyping. For now I prefer W3 cos its light weight and less verbose. I might ressurect my Bootstrap knowlege one day.

Nice

What is oracle saying about the new JavaSE 9 ,Jdk9 and Java EE 8 ?

What are the new features?

proxy20:
What is oracle saying about the new JavaSE 9 ,Jdk9 and Java EE 8 ?

What are the new features?

I heard they are bringing MVC 1.0, a new mvc. Then improved multitasking features also.