Joebie:
And the ball just flew by itself towards Shehu's path.. Ironically, he played a huge part in that build up.
He was aware of Shehu's presence he two players on him but manage to roll the ball forward. His reaction after the collision is a proof. He looked straight to Shehu as the latter delivered the cross. That shows awareness. Look at the 6th second.. You have to look at the situation from different camera angles. Spectator side view does not tell the story.


Take note of the 6th second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r02pWvPQ-1s

if he wanted to pass that ball the collision would not have happened, you can see he still wanted to continue chasing the ball. His run drew two defenders yes but he should have released the ball earlier, thank God the ball did not hit that defender

daveP:
Leicester vs Atletico is the match! why? Ndidi marked d hell out of Griezmann; gave a good account of himself. I want revenge!

and when they discover that Ndidi is their problem they will do what they did to Onazi to him too lobatan

junnyjake:


Yeah, but I don't see him making the world cup list. But the Afcon qualifiers? I think he has a fair chance. His play suits the African style.

The guy really deserves a chance to play for us

Joebie:
Let me throw this in.. Just want to give you an idea about how coaches make their decision. To start with, coaches have different winning philosophies and systems. They have preferred formations. And for a formation to do what it suppose to do players will have to have certain strengths.
You want to look at where the player played in the past, what was that coach's formation and philosophy, how the player contributed to it. And if that team succeeded. These are different variables. When the player moves to another club, most times he meets a new coach with a different philosophy or preferred formation, and different set of teammates with different qualities from the those he once had. Which is why often times players are deployed to a different position, also considering the other player's strengths in the team. However, this change are rarely made as regards some playing positions.
For example consider the former Ajax youth system. This is an excerpt from Edgar Davids interview I just stumbled across (take note of the bolded):

You started at Ajax as a left-winger and struggled. How did you make the transition to midfield?
Andrew Edmonds, via e-mail
Davids: I started as a left-winger and second striker: a No.10. What is different in the Ajax system for a midfielder is that they can attack and also defend, so it is maybe that you have the holding player on the outside who is always protecting or defending. That's the system. It was Louis van Gaal's idea to move my position. Marc Overmars started playing on the left and was really good, so he had to adapt the situation to where I played in the midfield. On the left wing I felt isolated, but in the middle I was more part of the game.
Read more at https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/edgar-davids-one-one#TgjPfXrrymOdtOyq.99

I followed the link and had a real treat reading the article. Edgar said he used to jog the ball while making tea or while brushing his teeth. I can't even imagine it. Great, great artist!!

Members of this forum, I hail thee,
@Joebie is an epistle that you wrote concerning the 'foreign breed' nice one. @Micheal, football has never been 1+1, either moses got a freekick or he was allowed to beat his marker. He was obstructed but for you to use the term headless chicken means you are being too harsh. When he did the same against Cameroon and exchanged a pass with simon which lead to the 3rd goal, you did not say anything but suddenly come up with such harsh criticisms. You actually made me get interested in Onazi as I started watching his style of play. He might not be the best passer of the ball but he really is a workaholic. You keep clamouring for his removal but then we are all entitled to our opinion and I respect that. However try not to bring down someone's achievements just because they are not doing the "ideal' thing. Constructive criticism helps a lot but hey what do I know

Mujtahida:

In another post you mentioned Siasia: well I never followed Siasia's time with the Eagles for many reasons I cannot now say.

Being a perfectionists (a streak which I have too) - doesn't at least to me-mean things have to be clean clean all the time. In fact I'd get bored if it's always like that(that's why I detest tiki taka but love jupp Hyncknes Bayern). And I realise - like we pointed out using Leow of Germany - that perfection takes time. Good effort + time= perfection. Look at the whole picture and give the man some time.

I think my understanding of one touch, two go passes differs from yours. Crisp passes from Balogun Mikel controls and lops for Ighalo. Ighalo turns his marker and buries the ball. If that is not one touch, two go then I'd like to know what is.

what of Keshi?

I love Tiki taka, so you should know my perception of pure football.


Ok, watch that goal Iheanacho scored against Zambia, is it in anyway related to Ighalo's goal? I could also mention other goals scored by City but you would argue it isn't club football.

Anyways for a coach that says he likes one touch two go, but somehow he keeps Iwobi, who is unarguably the best we have in that department on the bench or out on the wide for who? Moses Simon!!! Tor, it does not add up

Lazyerudite:
Members of this forum, I hail thee,
@Joebie is an epistle that you wrote concerning the 'foreign breed' nice one. @Micheal, football has never been 1+1, either moses got a freekick or he was allowed to beat his marker. He was obstructed but for you to use the term headless chicken means you are being too harsh. When he did the same against Cameroon and exchanged a pass with simon which lead to the 3rd goal, you did not say anything but suddenly come up with such harsh criticisms. You actually made me get interested in Onazi as I started watching his style of play. He might not be the best passer of the ball but he really is a workaholic. You keep clamouring for his removal but then we are all entitled to our opinion and I respect that. However try not to bring down someone's achievements just because they are not doing the "ideal' thing. Constructive criticism helps a lot but hey what do I know

there is one thing I do not even try, bringing up a players past just so I can rubbish it. I have never ever rubished Onazi's achievements for us, ever. However I dwell on the here and now.


Onazi is a workhorse no doubt, is he a good player? Definetly better than Agu but there are two issues. Play him as a DMF and he will not just sit and cover the back four, rather he would want to roam thus creating room for opposing players and that could be dangerous. Play him as the CMF and we see that his passing range and ability is not great and in most cases, instead of keeping it simple he would(without looking up) send one wild long pass to the wing. Now if Onazi can get a good coach like Mou who would put it into his head that being a DMF is about protecting your CBs and being a CMF is about recycling posession, no need trying to be too direct all the time then Onazi will be a lot better than the lot we have.

Mickael2:



what of Keshi?

I love Tiki taka, so you should know my perception of pure football.


Ok, watch that goal Iheanacho scored against Zambia, is it in anyway related to Ighalo's goal? I could also mention other goals scored by City but you would argue it isn't club football.

Anyways for a coach that says he likes one touch two go, but somehow he keeps Iwobi, who is unarguably the best we have in that department on the bench or out on the wide for who? Moses Simon!!! Tor, it does not add up

I don't see Keshi- with all due respect to him - as being more technically astute than Rohr.
I'd rather wait and assess after some time.

Mickael2:



if he wanted to pass that ball the collision would not have happened, you can see he still wanted to continue chasing the ball. His run drew two defenders yes but he should have released the ball earlier, thank God the ball did not hit that defender

That was a Pass from Moses..
If there was no obstruction, He wud ve positioned himself for the Cutback.

Mickael2:



if he wanted to pass that ball the collision would not have happened, you can see he still wanted to continue chasing the ball. His run drew two defenders yes but he should have released the ball earlier, thank God the ball did not hit that defender

He passed the ball and that led to your goal... yet, you are still complaining.

Nigerdeltaboi:
please cut him some slack, I play as a winger and understand sometimes its difficult to look up and anticipate another player while trying to run at a fast pace with the ball on your feet. the guy nor be robot na

This is precisely what I don't understand. Footballers would play football for ninety minutes and they expect everything to be sleek and prim? Every tackle must be perfect, every dribble on point, every goal bound move leads to a goal, every pass, excellent, every run is well timed. May football never be like that.

Joebie:
And the ball just flew by itself towards Shehu's path.. Ironically, he played a huge part in that build up.
He was aware of Shehu's presence he two players on him but manage to roll the ball forward. His reaction after the collision is a proof. He looked straight to Shehu as the latter delivered the cross. That shows awareness. Look at the 6th second.. You have to look at the situation from different camera angles. Spectator side view does not tell the story.


Take note of the 6th second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r02pWvPQ-1s

No need going on on with this issue cos I see vastly different perspectives that run at parallel lines with no meeting point. What I know is that I prefer headless chicken move than robotic football. Unpredictability, the whooooo, the haaaaa is what makes football heart pumping. Fifteen passes, uninterrupted, lead to that pass but just that bump on the road by VicMo spoilt everything. It just has to be perfect, too perfect or else it ain't good.

Certitude:
Sir Mickael2 just dey try run down d coach... My prayer is that the Super Eagles never get a tactical genius as coach... They all v been useless

Ohhhhhh a million likes for this statement. This is my quote for the day even though the day is almost ending.

Henry Onyekuru just scored for Anderlecht 0-2

Mickael2:



that is what differentiates a good winger from a great winger

There is no great winger that in the course of their footballing career never for once bumped into another player.
If you know the many mistakes, failure, errors, misjudgements, inaccuracies, waste that make up as ingredients for perfection you won't say what you just said. Ask Thomas Edison. I'm sure he can tell you more

Trifles make perfection but perfection is no trifle- Michelangelo

Onuachu scored earlier today.

Onyekuru just scored again

Mickael2:



there is one thing I do not even try, bringing up a players past just so I can rubbish it. I have never ever rubished Onazi's achievements for us, ever. However I dwell on the here and now.


Onazi is a workhorse no doubt, is he a good player? Definetly better than Agu but there are two issues. Play him as a DMF and he will not just sit and cover the back four, rather he would want to roam thus creating room for opposing players and that could be dangerous. Play him as the CMF and we see that his passing range and ability is not great and in most cases, instead of keeping it simple he would(without looking up) send one wild long pass to the wing. Now if Onazi can get a good coach like Mou who would put it into his head that being a DMF is about protecting your CBs and being a CMF is about recycling posession, no need trying to be too direct all the time then Onazi will be a lot better than the lot we have.

How this same Onazi has been a staple under Keshi, Siasia, Oliseh and Rohr is a mystery to me despite his wild passes and reckless dashes forward. His juju is very strong

Onyekuru with a brace

Mujtahida:

How this same Onazi has been a staple under Keshi, Siasia, Oliseh and Rohr is a mystery to me.

The guy loves to criticize Onazi.

Over two legs, Onazi was arguably the best player against Cameroon.

Onyekuru's first goal


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oz4zCqJmJo

tbaba1234:


The guy loves to criticize Onazi.

Over two legs, Onazi was arguably the best player against Cameroon.

It's not just Onazi as I am coming to realise. It's everything. No wonder that when Nerdie couldn't bear it he'd scream hater cos he found it hard to believe such unrelenting, ruthless criticism is possible without hatred being the reason for it.

He should have released it earlier but dragging out two defenders gave Shehu a wide range of space to place a perfect pass to Iwobi. I personally would have called for VicMo's head, had we not scored. However, we have seen times without number how his darting runs have unsettled opponents. The "headless chicken" have made the difference for us time and time again.. how I wish we were still chasing qualification. We have gotten so use to our old ways of struggling to qualify, that even when it comes easier we still look for ways to criticize. Of course, that's the easiest thing to do, else we will all be coaches in the NPFL at least. If we truly crave perfection, we should be happy we have taken a step towards it as we have only dropped 2 points so far in the qualifiers. But not the case here. we want to give all the credits to a few players. Same players that have always been with us.

Ok tacticians, what would u rather have done with this team?

Mickael2:



if he wanted to pass that ball the collision would not have happened, you can see he still wanted to continue chasing the ball. His run drew two defenders yes but he should have released the ball earlier, thank God the ball did not hit that defender

Onyekuru's second goal

Check out @Scott_MorrisEfc's Tweet:

http://twitter.com/Scott_MorrisEfc/status/918919532923715585?s=09

Terrific goal..

Amen o, else football will become very boring.

Mujtahida:

This is precisely what I don't understand. Footballers would play football for ninety minutes and they expect everything to be sleek and prim? Every tackle, perfect, every dribble on point, every goal bound move leads to a goal, every pass, excellent, every run is well timed May football never be like that.

Everton will now be like “why did we loan him out in the first place?”

tbaba1234:
Onyekuru's second goal

Check out @Scott_MorrisEfc's Tweet:

http://twitter.com/Scott_MorrisEfc/status/918919532923715585?s=09

Terrific goal..

Danycrusoe:


and when they discover that Ndidi is their problem they will do what they did to Onazi to him too lobatan

And you think we too go dey watch without targeting Pogba and Griezmann's legs?

I think at this point Rohr needs to just tell you guys whatever, and do what he wants. People will always talk. I'm not going to the WC to watch Nigeria entertain. We want to move past the second round jinx for once. For those of you who want to see everything fall according to your expectation or watch your preferred playing style, good luck!

For me, I just want to see us win. So far I'm satisfied.

Mickael2:



what of Keshi?

I love Tiki taka, so you should know my perception of pure football.


Ok, watch that goal Iheanacho scored against Zambia, is it in anyway related to Ighalo's goal? I could also mention other goals scored by City but you would argue it isn't club football.

Anyways for a coach that says he likes one touch two go, but somehow he keeps Iwobi, who is unarguably the best we have in that department on the bench or out on the wide for who? Moses Simon!!! Tor, it does not add up

Musa's reign is gradually coming to an end

tbaba1234:
Onyekuru's second goal

Check out @Scott_MorrisEfc's Tweet:

http://twitter.com/Scott_MorrisEfc/status/918919532923715585?s=09

Terrific goal..

tbaba1234:
Onyekuru with a brace

this guy may likely take out musa from the world cup list.....

it will be great injustice should this guy be ignored by rohr if he continues this form

If the goals keep coming for Iwobi, this will no longer be a debate.

TheGoodJoe:


Definitely, Iwobi will be good in AMF. Nacho gets my pick because I prefer an offensive ten and the midfield staying compact than a conservative ten who will join in defensive duties.

8 months to the World Cup some of us can't wait to cry foul. Relax una blood too dey hot.

Humility017:

this guy may likely take out musa from the world cup list.....

it will be great injustice should this guy be ignored by rohr if he continues this form

tbaba1234:
Onyekuru's first goal


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oz4zCqJmJo

this guy will definetely flourish in the SE with Pass masters like mikel and iwobi....

to be honest super eagles is not short of Hungry and quality wingers...at the moment...the defense i believe urgently need surgical operation