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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 10:28pm On Oct 14, 2017
supersystemsnig:



If something must exist then it must come from something, hence nothing doesn't exist...cause even in dark holes, vibration of particles exist...In fact, vibration of energy exists throughout the universe, hence matter and energy is in continuous flow...So why, nothing?Nothing is something... grin and something comes from something and not nothing..
which we means from a process to process...

I also like this principle... It did not escape God....
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 10:31pm On Oct 14, 2017
vaxx:
which we means from a process to process...

I also like this principle... It did not escape God....

All things embrace the will of it's owner my brother

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 10:34pm On Oct 14, 2017
supersystemsnig:


All things embrace the will of it's owner my brother
can you tell your scientist friend sorry... Do it for me
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by AgentOfAllah: 10:34pm On Oct 14, 2017
mrphysics:

Lol. Sorry, I wasn't that observant.

Alright @your belief. Everything about God personal. Miracles can't be mass produced so you can't physically prove the existence of God to anyone. I think its the reason he made Himself God.

Wishing you all the best.
Thanks for your best wishes, but who made himself god?
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 10:35pm On Oct 14, 2017
supersystemsnig:


All things embrace the will of it's owner my brother
can you tell your scientist friend sorry... Do it for me bro
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 10:37pm On Oct 14, 2017
vaxx:
can you tell your scientist friend sorry... Do it for me bro

Lol..you're cracking me up brov, tell the person yourself nah..
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 10:38pm On Oct 14, 2017
supersystemsnig:


Lol..you're cracking me up brov, tell the person yourself nah..
I just did it...but he reject it..
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 10:40pm On Oct 14, 2017
vaxx:
I just did it...but he reject it..


Lol..i'm lost, really don't know what you're talking about adn i dont want to be caught in the middle
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by tintingz(m): 10:43pm On Oct 14, 2017
supersystemsnig:


Thanks. Pardon me...

Finding God after 22 years of search thru science annoys me each time i remember the experiences...I wasted 22 years of my life i could have spent knowing this wonderful creator without the tedious search...Anyway, the knowledge from those experiences remains unwasted sha, i'm consoled.....The first and only time i've knelt and submitted to a higher entity remains to Him, My Maker, My keeper, My right arm, the one that teaches me and helps me understand, The one that patiently watches and pushes us further....Anyone that says no God, needs to search deeper...
Sorry to ask, if you found God through science, why did you choose the Jewish God?

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 10:45pm On Oct 14, 2017
AgentOfAllah:

Thanks for your best wishes, but who made himself god?
I'm going to call you Red from now on.

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 10:45pm On Oct 14, 2017
tintingz:
Sorry to ask, if you found God through science, why did you choose the Jewish God?


Thru processes, not thru science...God na God...

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by tintingz(m): 10:50pm On Oct 14, 2017
supersystemsnig:



Thru processes, not thru science...God na God...
Are you a pantheist or deist?

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 10:51pm On Oct 14, 2017
tintingz:
Are you a pantheist or deist?

exhausted...brov...maybe later

sleep
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by tintingz(m): 11:05pm On Oct 14, 2017
supersystemsnig:


exhausted...brov...maybe later

sleep
Lol, it's not something you will write epistles on.

And besides you said you found God through science now you changed it to through process? What process? undecided

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by AgentOfAllah: 11:15pm On Oct 14, 2017
grin grin grin
butterflyl1on:


Why are you getting worked up all of a sudden? In your egotistical way you talk down and insult peoples posts at will and I know because you have done it to me often. I never knew you couldn't take what you dish out.

Knowledge is not your exclusive right and I am sure this awakening suddenly made you irritable and instead of speaking properly and intelligently towards supersystemsnig you simply want to attack his person which is totally horrible.

You can now retort in your usual egotistical rude manner. Nothing new there.
Oga butterfly, aka ngor1, aka ngor2, I know say you don save me for mind since d day wey I gang with the others to expose your wayowayo likes and shares for Nairaland.
But anyway, your points are well received!


Firstly, thanks for reminding me that knowledge is not my exclusive preserve! I couldn't agree more with you on that point. As a matter of fact, I have only become acutely aware of my colossal ignorance with time.
To keep your restless mind at rest sir, I apologise to you if I've ever conveyed the impression that knowledge is my personal property. That has never been my intention. If anything, I should like that everybody knows more than me so that I never run out of things to learn. I also apologise for all the alleged "talkdowns" and "insults" you claim I have meted on you. I try to be courteous in my conversations, as a matter of course, but I'm not infallible, so I may occasionally depart from this course. I regret all of that, if you've been at the receiving end of my moments of madness. However, the one thing I do not regret is exposing your b4 wayowayo arse. That has hopefully made you a better person.

Love you bro! kiss kiss kiss

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by AgentOfAllah: 11:22pm On Oct 14, 2017
shaybebaby:

I'm going to call you Red from now on.
Haha! I'm retired and extremely dangerous? grin grin
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 11:34pm On Oct 14, 2017
AgentOfAllah:
grin grin grin

Oga butterfly, aka ngor1, aka ngor2, I know say you don save me for mind since d day wey I gang with the others to expose your wayowayo likes and shares for Nairaland.
But anyway, your points are well received!


Firstly, thanks for reminding me that knowledge is not my exclusive preserve! I couldn't agree more with you on that point. As a matter of fact, I have only become acutely aware of my colossal ignorance with time.
To keep your restless mind at rest sir, I apologise to you if I've ever conveyed the impression that knowledge is my personal property. That has never been my intention. If anything, I should like that everybody knows more than me so that I never run out of things to learn. I also apologise for all the alleged "talkdowns" and "insults" you claim I have meted on you. I try to be courteous in my conversations, as a matter of course, but I'm not infallible, so I may occasionally depart from this course. I regret all of that, if you've been at the receiving end of my moments of madness. However, the one thing I do not regret is exposing your b4 wayowayo arse. That has hopefully made you a better person.

Love you bro! kiss kiss kiss



We are brothers and comrades, no enemity,,, i like the interactions we shared, and we should do this once in a while..we both should do this..I appreciate everytime we both put into this...You mde my day brov..gotta sleep..chao

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 11:38pm On Oct 14, 2017
AgentOfAllah:
grin grin grin

Oga butterfly, aka ngor1, aka ngor2, I know say you don save me for mind since d day wey I gang with the others to expose your wayowayo likes and shares for Nairaland.
But anyway, your points are well received!


Firstly, thanks for reminding me that knowledge is not my exclusive preserve! I couldn't agree more with you on that point. As a matter of fact, I have only become acutely aware of my colossal ignorance with time.
To keep your restless mind at rest sir, I apologise to you if I've ever conveyed the impression that knowledge is my personal property. That has never been my intention. If anything, I should like that everybody knows more than me so that I never run out of things to learn. I also apologise for all the alleged "talkdowns" and "insults" you claim I have meted on you. I try to be courteous in my conversations, as a matter of course, but I'm not infallible, so I may occasionally depart from this course. I regret all of that, if you've been at the receiving end of my moments of madness. However, the one thing I do not regret is exposing your b4 wayowayo arse. That has hopefully made you a better person.

Love you bro! kiss kiss kiss
This is a moment for reconciliation
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 11:40pm On Oct 14, 2017
supersystemsnig:




We are brothers and comrades, no enemity,,, i like the interactions we shared, and we should do this once in a while..we both should do this..I appreciate everytime we both put into this...You mde my day brov..gotta sleep..chao
you just did what i ask you to do...


Good of you..

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by budaatum: 1:02am On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
this isnt true,scientific verifiable truth do not need further truth again....not laziness... It is no more truth again... Take for example water molecules consist of oxygen atom and 2 hydrogen atoms...which further prove do scientist need again


If the explanation is well satisfy, no need for further explanations...


Beliefs have underlining connotations with knowledge, faith, trust and confidence..

And I explained to you this knowledge is derived from sensitivity, experience and perciveness.. Can all this be clueless? Scratch it...

With your analogy...for me to say i belive is rainy outside, i must have sense it, percived it and experience how it is...if not it is not a belive it is assumption...
H

I belive it is rainy outside becuse i sense the room temperature is much lower, I perceive the weather conditions is cold because whenever it wanted to rain ,the room enviroment is always cold....


The rain.
Two days ago, I got an engineer in to fit the brand new made in North Korea Kim Jong-un air conditioning unit that I had bought. Its not like those made in China rubbish. This one is voice controlled, has no visible internal unit, cools the room and makes no noise - or so they told me where I bought it, though now I know, that noise we heard that made me believe it was raining outside was my brand new Kim Jong-un air condition unit powering up when the electricity came back on. I am sorry I forgot to tell you it got installed.

We went out a couple of hours later and everywhere was dry, except the patio. On looking up, water was dripping from the clothes the Neighbour's house girl, Kudiratu Alinorain, had hung out to dry on the rails of the balcony upstairs. The water I felt was falling from the clothes, splashing on the ledge and falling on my head like it was rain. As soon as my senses perceived the water, I believed it was raining due to experience and did not bother to investigate any further. Besides, I was angry at you for not believing me when I told you I believed it was raining! But its not my fault I was clueless now! Did I not hear water falling from above, and perceive water falling from above and decide from experience that water falling from above was rain? How could I have known the neighbour's house girl, Kudiratu Alinorain was hanging clothes out to dry? I did ask you to go and check for yourself!

My point is, my senses might not be as good as I think they are, and a second opinion might help. At the very least, I would not make that mistake again, and that's how we learn.

Please read up on water at wiki. You'd find information on water goes quite a lot further than "one oxygen atom and two hydrogen atoms".

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by AgentOfAllah: 4:21am On Oct 15, 2017
supersystemsnig:




We are brothers and comrades, no enemity,,, i like the interactions we shared, and we should do this once in a while..we both should do this..I appreciate everytime we both put into this...You mde my day brov..gotta sleep..chao
Cheers bro. Yes, let's do this more. I'm sure there's much to learn from each other if we listen more. smiley
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 6:22am On Oct 15, 2017
supersystemsnig:


You're kiddin me ryt?

Me atheist ? Lol You wished...

I've seen the throne of the Lord with my plain eyes, in my personal experience.. In due time in the future i will explain how in my rebellion i set out on a quest that took me over twenty two years and then found Him at the end... and when i found Him, He was the gentlest thing i've ever seen or experienced...So i aint an atheist because i understand science.. this ended my quest for deep knowledge of the universe, so i aint in that crew brov, no offense...
I hope you'll do this before you deactivate .

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 6:50am On Oct 15, 2017
budaatum:

The rain.
Two days ago, I got an engineer in to fit the brand new made in North Korea Kim Jong-un air conditioning unit that I had bought. Its not like those made in China rubbish. This one is voice controlled, has no visible internal unit, cools the room and makes no noise - or so they told me where I bought it, though now I know, that noise we heard that made me believe it was raining outside was my brand new Kim Jong-un air condition unit powering up when the electricity came back on. I am sorry I forgot to tell you it got installed.

We went out a couple of hours later and everywhere was dry, except the patio. On looking up, water was dripping from the clothes the Neighbour's house girl, Kudiratu Alinorain, had hung out to dry on the rails of the balcony upstairs. The water I felt was falling from the clothes, splashing on the ledge and falling on my head like it was rain. As soon as my senses perceived the water, I believed it was raining due to experience and did not bother to investigate any further. Besides, I was angry at you for not believing me when I told you I believed it was raining! But its not my fault I was clueless now! Did I not hear water falling from above, and perceive water falling from above and decide from experience that water falling from above was rain? How could I have known the neighbour's house girl, Kudiratu Alinorain was hanging clothes out to dry? I did ask you to go and check for yourself!

My point is, my senses might not be as good as I think they are, and a second opinion might help. At the very least, I would not make that mistake again, and that's how we learn.

Please read up on water at wiki. You'd find information on water goes quite a lot further than "one oxygen atom and two hydrogen atoms".
pls
The same wikipedia says water chemical formula is H2O, so where those it go further? Do you even read the links you quoted...water molecule consist of oxgens atom and two hydrogen atoms...nothing more..provide any proof....am willing to accept yours if you are debating mine for the sake of argument... what molecule does water contain again?




With the analogy again, you are wrong... Sensitivity, experience and perciveness can't all be clueless...why? All this element are derive from our brain consciousness....



If all this three elements is wrong in a person ,then the individual needs a proper psychological check up.....a balance mind with the above elemnt can't get it all wrong....it is impossible..


For example, lets you believe that light is made up of living organisms but this doesn't change the truth that it is not made up of any living thing (Still, who knows if someone proves that also someday, but for the time being it is, to put it in the simplest way possible, a combination of wave and particle nature, the quantum particle being Photon). It is living thng becaus that is how it can be sense or perceived

Check this diagram to get the understanding. Of belive system and scientific system.........






If you don't get the diagram analogy, let me know...

Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 7:02am On Oct 15, 2017
AgentOfAllah:

Cheers bro. Yes, let's do this more. I'm sure there's much to learn from each other if we listen more. smiley


wink
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Humanistme: 7:39am On Oct 15, 2017
tintingz:
Lol, it's not something you will write epistles on.

And besides you said you found God through science now you changed it to through process? What process? undecided


grin i'd advice you to save yourself the stress. the guy is going to bore you with useless talk.

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Humanistme: 7:47am On Oct 15, 2017
supersystemsnig:

exhausted...brov...maybe later
sleep
guy you funny cheesy
simple I'm a deist or I'm a pantheist
or I'm none of the above is all he needs.

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 7:59am On Oct 15, 2017
AgentOfAllah:

Haha! I'm retired and extremely dangerous? grin grin
Ha, now why does that ring a bell.. I think that's from a Bruce's Willis movie, help me with the title.

And no, I mean Red from angry Birds. Mighty Eagle may suit other persons better wink
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 8:32am On Oct 15, 2017
Humanistme:



grin i'd advice you to save yourself the stress. the guy is going to bore you with useless talk.


Yes, i broke up wif a girl you have eyes on, why hunt me all over the forum? What's the issue? Why not leave me in peace dude? Do i owe you? She's single, c'mon go fetch her, why are you so pained with someone else' pain? Get off my back dude...

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 8:34am On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
you just did what i ask you to do...


Good of you..


Thanks

I was less than civil to you guys...My sincere apologies on y'all..I blame it on adrenaline...I hope to stick around and be of more civil attitude...
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by AgentOfAllah: 8:42am On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:

Ha, now why does that ring a bell.. I think that's from a Bruce's Willis movie, help me with the title.
Lol exactly! The movie's title is exactly that: Retired and Extremely Dangerous (RED)

And no, I mean Red from angry Birds. Mighty Eagle may suit other persons better wink
Phew! Most times, these generation Z cultural references just fly over my head! You're lucky you have someone to keep you well informed and grounded. At the risk of spoiling the reference, I'm really curious to know the characteristics I share with Red? cheesy

Hahaha @ Mighty Eagle persons.

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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by tintingz(m): 8:42am On Oct 15, 2017
Humanistme:



grin i'd advice you to save yourself the stress. the guy is going to bore you with useless talk.
Lol, at least he should tell us the process how he found his God if he saw him in the sky, maybe we can do same. grin

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