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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by Nobody: 9:07pm On Oct 14, 2017
Gadodoko:
in christainity women are also ask to cover their selves. Wat do u think of the roman chatolic church way of dressing with the hijab. Women are ask 2 keep quiet in church. But xtains only follow deir heart not christ.
Totally wrong. That rev sisters dress looks like hijab doesn't mean the Bible says so. Christian women are admonished to dress descent not exposing their bodies. They are only allowed to cover their hairs when praying or ministering

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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by seguno2: 9:08pm On Oct 14, 2017
Bari22:
Even in Christianity family planning is not allowed.

But Nigerian Christians u know, they are.... .

Kindly provide references from the Bible to back up your false claim.
Thanks

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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by menxer: 9:09pm On Oct 14, 2017
femi4:
That wasn't God's plan. You can't use jacob as a standard.

The name Jacob itself means deceit, God had to change his name to Israel
What do you mean by God's plan? If it was not God's plan how come all his children are part of the convenant, including the ones from concubines?

When did change in name mean change in character?
Was the change in name before or after he fathered those children?

Abeg, Leave story for tortoise.

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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by seguno2: 9:10pm On Oct 14, 2017
Skoopy:
Hen. 38:9-10

9 But Onan knew that the children would not belong to him, so when he had intercourse with his brother’s widow, he let the semen spill on the ground, so that there would be no children for his brother.

10 What he did displeased the LORD, and the LORD killed him also.

How is the above passage relevant to the comment that you quoted?
Thanks
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by chloride6: 9:20pm On Oct 14, 2017
biomustry:

In the Presidential form of government and absolute monarchies, the Head of the Government and the Head of the State are the same individual...
Your father and your daddy are the same individual, Mr political literate, call it what you want

You are still coimg here your disgrace yourself. Was Sani Abacha President?

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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by chloride6: 9:23pm On Oct 14, 2017
GavelSlam:


You wish to vilify other religions yet christianity advocates the same policy.

Isn't that hypocritical?

The Catholic Church believes that artificial contraception is sinful and immoral and may frustrate a divine plan to bring a new life into the world. Instead of using birth control methods such as the pill, IUDs, diaphragms, and condoms, Catholics can use Natural Family Planning (NFP) techniques.

Nobody is trying to vilify your religion. I'm only against your apparent lack of initiative. If the Quran , says put your hand in fire, will you?

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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by hatchy(f): 9:24pm On Oct 14, 2017
phizzle017:

You're a foolish person so I don't blame you. Flat head Republic
Fifty naira condom would have saved your parents this embarrassment which i strongly believe they regret to their grave.

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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by Gadodoko: 9:35pm On Oct 14, 2017
asuustrike2009:

Totally wrong. That rev sisters dress looks like hijab doesn't mean the Bible says so. Christian women are admonished to dress descent not exposing their bodies. They are only allowed to cover their hairs when praying or ministering
mr right readup here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_headcovering
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by Nobody: 9:46pm On Oct 14, 2017
Almajiri beggars?... that is why it would always be a problem.
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by Davidson5(m): 9:46pm On Oct 14, 2017
Shame! What a shame!! How come this man got elected (Hon. ) mtchew
200mil+ and this is poverty.
Imagine a jobless man having average of 5-6 children. Nigeria population is a big problem and of course a general problem for every Nigerian.
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by khalilullaah(m): 9:48pm On Oct 14, 2017
seguno2:


I couldn't find where he said what I highlighted in your comments above.
Could you please point to this from his own comments that you quoted?
Or you simply fabricated it on your own from a fertile imagination
Thanks.

From the bolded which you quoted was just my own way of emphasizing the point about literacy.
Re-read my comment and you will clearly see that I wrote "you think" as to what I understood from his comment.
The point you should note is, I was trying to establish is calling majority of northerners illiterates by his own contrived standard.
And my arguments still remains.
literacy is not defined by being able to speak and write in your colonial masters language it goes beyond that.

dazzol.
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by Manspeaks(m): 9:49pm On Oct 14, 2017
FlirtyKaren:
Hon. Gudaji Kazaure of Katsina state, a member of Nigeria’s House of Representatives representing Kazaure/Roni/Gwiwa/Yankwashi Constituency, was captured in a video in one of the house’s session, sharing his thoughts on family planning and how it affects Muslims.

According to the Honourable Member of the House, “telling a Muslim to do family planning, is telling him to violate his religion; because there’s no planning in Islam”. The video has generated lots of controversy on social media. Here is it below;

https://www.lailasblog.com/forcing-muslim-family-planning-means-forcing-violate-rule-religion-hon-kazaure/



He's from Jigawa state, not Katsina state
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by koolaid87: 9:55pm On Oct 14, 2017
Smh... just to remind us before you take offense in what the Christian brother says or the Muslim sisters says that we were here before the two faith

Our parents thread on this path and see where it leads us.

We will be here long after religion is gone.
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by seguno2: 9:56pm On Oct 14, 2017
khalilullaah:
From the bolded which you quoted was just my own way of emphasizing the point about literacy.
Re-read my comment and you will clearly see that I wrote "you think" as to what I understood from his comment.
The point you should note is, I was trying to establish is calling majority of northerners illiterates by his own contrived standard.
And my arguments still remains.
literacy is not defined by being able to speak and write in your colonial masters language it goes beyond that.

dazzol.

If northerners are not generally illiterate, what % does the region contribute to the federation account that is shared monthly among the 36 states plus Abuja and the 774 LGAs plus the federal government?
What % please.
Why are the Muslim countries of the Middle East sending all their children to school if it is a taboo to formally learn how to read and write in English or a any other productive language?

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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by lakesider(m): 9:56pm On Oct 14, 2017
show me where that is written in the koran or bible ......................awon werey

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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by Nicestibk(m): 9:59pm On Oct 14, 2017
He is right... Only if he can step out of the Senate, stop using phone, cars or watching TV etc since it is not mentioned or stated in any verse of the Koran n Bible.

They will always want to use religion for everything to detriment of their people.

SMH

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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by khalilullaah(m): 10:06pm On Oct 14, 2017
seguno2:


If northerners are not generally illiterate, what % does the region contribute to the federation account that is shared monthly among the 36 states plus Abuja and the 774 LGAs plus the federal government?
What % please.
Why are the Muslim countries of the Middle East sending all their children to school if it is a taboo to formally learn how to read and write in English or a any other productive language?

still missing the point.
I will ask you a question and I hope you answer me sincerely,does literacy mean just to read,speak and write in English or does it go beyond that?
This is my point.
stop digressing.
when it comes to indices for development we will treat that separately.
The point I raised again is, is literacy simply defined( according to your friends and you) by simply reading, speaking and writing English?
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by khalilullaah(m): 10:17pm On Oct 14, 2017
Every wants to speak nobody wants to listen.
This is the problem, we see or hear something and automatically pass judgement without mulling over it to reach a correct and logical conclusion premised on axiomatic facts.
As increase in birth rate got any thing to do with under development?
Even the Chinese recently relax their one child policy because they saw that it would be counter productive yet our Christian patriots don't want people to give birth to children in peace.
what's our(muslims) business if you decide to fry your testicles and boil your ovaries because you want to live the American dream which is not even real.
Why force and curse us to accept you zombie ways with your monkey point view even when the whites have not so much change their view of you having a monkey ancestry.
huh?
what's your problem!?
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by rumaabk(m): 10:18pm On Oct 14, 2017
FlirtyKaren:
Hon. Gudaji Kazaure of Katsina state, a member of Nigeria’s House of Representatives representing Kazaure/Roni/Gwiwa/Yankwashi Constituency, was captured in a video in one of the house’s session, sharing his thoughts on family planning and how it affects Muslims.

According to the Honourable Member of the House, “telling a Muslim to do family planning, is telling him to violate his religion; because there’s no planning in Islam”. The video has generated lots of controversy on social media. Here is it below;

https://www.lailasblog.com/forcing-muslim-family-planning-means-forcing-violate-rule-religion-hon-kazaure/
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Pls Hon gudaji is from jigawa not katsina state
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by Nobody: 10:24pm On Oct 14, 2017
Mr. Kazaure surely can't be more Islamic than Muslim countries that encouraged family planning to boost their economies.

There are several examples; Iran, Egypt, Pakistan etc (see links below). VIRTUALLY MOST ADVANCED ISLAMIC COUNTRIES HAVE ACTIVE FAMILY PLANNING PROGRAMS!

. In Nigeria these guys don't ever use COMMON SENSE!







http://www.merip.org/mer/mer205/modernization-family-planning-egypt


https://www.theglobalist.com/iran-a-model-for-family-planning/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1256218/pdf/amjphnation00155-0048.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjq7PDThfHWAhXqE5oKHbxSDMQQFghBMAM&usg=AOvVaw04OG8iOEtUM2KSWjXladIC

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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by Dare2Try(m): 10:25pm On Oct 14, 2017
Bari22:



When Saudi Arabia ban women from driving doesn't mean it is Islam that ban them, no my friend is their laws for their country, there is no any verse in Quran that ban wowen from driving and never for once Saudi authorities say they ban female driving because it is not allowed in Islam, get ur facts right.

Modified

You people should stop quoting me, you believe the rubbish that guy spit and now u calling me because I say Quran does not ban women driving? And why he say is forbidden for a woman to drive in Islam? you see these are kind of Christians we have here in Nigeria , they don't reason at all, All they know is Islam ban so so and they can't investigate.




Nigeria has the dumbest set of Christians



Thank you for the insult on Christianity, I take that as a compliment from a ragtag muslim who believe in reproduction without proper care and adequate which result in terrorism

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Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by IamProdigy: 10:36pm On Oct 14, 2017
Skoopy:


Hen. 38:9-10

9 But Onan knew that the children would not belong to him, so when he had intercourse with his brother’s widow, he let the semen spill on the ground, so that there would be no children for his brother.

10 What he did displeased the LORD, and the LORD killed him also.

Ur point pls?
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by Ritajovy(f): 10:36pm On Oct 14, 2017
"Because there is no planning in Islam "- A very profound statement. We are in the 21st century not stone age. Islam learn to move with time. You can't work against time and not get hurt!! Impossicant!!
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by seguno2: 10:59pm On Oct 14, 2017
khalilullaah:
still missing the point.
I will ask you a question and I hope you answer me sincerely,does literacy mean just to read,speak and write in English or does it go beyond that?
This is my point.
stop digressing.
when it comes to indices for development we will treat that separately.
The point I raised again is, is literacy simply defined( according to your friends and you) by simply reading, speaking and writing English?

Stop being half smart. I never said that literacy is about being able to read and write in English only.
Stop imagining things that are not there!
All the Muslim children in the Middle East, are they not going to school?
Are there countries not highly productive as a result?
Is the Koran that is being read in Nigeria more authentic than what they are reading in Dubai, Mecca, Riyadh, Abu Dhabi, Doha, Kuwait City etc?
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by biomustry: 11:46pm On Oct 14, 2017
chloride6:


You are still coimg here your disgrace yourself. Was Sani Abacha President?
Like I said, call it what you want. He held the highest rank


President ko Director ni
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by Ashley86400: 11:57pm On Oct 14, 2017
"There's no planning in Islam"
That about sums it up. . .
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by chloride6: 12:07am On Oct 15, 2017
biomustry:

Like I said, call it what you want. He held the highest rank


President ko Director ni

By taking up arms against government?
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by Nobody: 12:37am On Oct 15, 2017
Gadodoko:
mr right readup here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_headcovering
Mr sabi sabi did apostle Paul admonishes Christian women to wear hjab? Did he say Christian women should dress like reverence sisters? You just pick one part of the Bible with understanding it.
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by perdollar(m): 1:37am On Oct 15, 2017
Bari22:


Even in Christianity family planning is not allowed.

But Nigerian Christians u know, they are.... .
do Christians reproduce like animals?
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by perdollar(m): 1:42am On Oct 15, 2017
khalilullaah:


still missing the point.
I will ask you a question and I hope you answer me sincerely,does literacy mean just to read,speak and write in English or does it go beyond that?
This is my point.
stop digressing.
when it comes to indices for development we will treat that separately.
The point I raised again is, is literacy simply defined( according to your friends and you) by simply reading, speaking and writing English?
nna eh!! see one aboki trying so hard to sound reasonable! my friend ur point is no point but a comma.
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by perdollar(m): 1:52am On Oct 15, 2017
khalilullaah:
Every wants to speak nobody wants to listen.
This is the problem, we see or hear something and automatically pass judgement without mulling over it to reach a correct and logical conclusion premised on axiomatic facts.
As increase in birth rate got any thing to do with under development?
Even the Chinese recently relax their one child policy because they saw that it would be counter productive yet our Christian patriots don't want people to give birth to children in peace.
what's our(muslims) business if you decide to fry your testicles and boil your ovaries because you want to live the American dream which is not even real.
Why force and curse us to accept you zombie ways with your monkey point view even when the whites have not so much change their view of you having a monkey ancestry.
huh?
what's your problem!?
aboki is talking logic. he has asked '(h)as increase in birthrate got anything to do wt underdevelopment? Allahamdullilahi! we can see hw an average aboki ( Muslims) thinks. well done for displaying ur 'intelligentsia'
Re: "Telling A Muslim To Do Family Planning, Is Violating His Religion"- Hon Kazaure by perdollar(m): 1:55am On Oct 15, 2017
khalilullaah:


still missing the point.
I will ask you a question and I hope you answer me sincerely,does literacy mean just to read,speak and write in English or does it go beyond that?
This is my point.
stop digressing.
when it comes to indices for development we will treat that separately.
The point I raised again is, is literacy simply defined( according to your friends and you) by simply reading, speaking and writing English?
they contribute 'consumer workforce' AKA almajiri

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