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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 2:11pm On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
do you even get the analogy?

Who should be the first question before how and not the other way round...

After the who, you can then ask how?

Do you wanner start eating your moimoi from the middle ....
You misunderstand.
Who? We talk about a being, a living entity.
What? An entity, both living and non-living, a phenomenon.
How? Process.
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 2:12pm On Oct 15, 2017
To those who say who isn't a first logical question...

Am sure must of you have written research paper....when you gather your questionnaire... Do you start by explaining your question to your intended capture sample or you introduce whom you are?
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 2:14pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
You misunderstand.
Who? We talk about a being, a living entity.
What? An entity, both living and non-living, a phenomenon.
How? Process.
have you done a research paper before?
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 2:22pm On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
have you done a research paper before?
Of what relevance is your question?
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 2:24pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
Of what relevance is your question?
just Wanner know your first line of interaction with your capture sample
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by akintom(m): 2:29pm On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
you can teach me pls...
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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 2:33pm On Oct 15, 2017
akintom:
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thanks. Let me learn it..
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 2:46pm On Oct 15, 2017
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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 2:47pm On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
just Wanner know your first line of interaction with your capture sample
Reason. I'm not an academic so the extent of technical expertise is limited to one dissertation. Also my field of study is business related.
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by akintom(m): 2:54pm On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
{Copy 1 above (with the bracket ] on both sides) and paste at the TOP of paragraph/line/word you wish to reply]okk

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Do you understand it now?
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 2:54pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
Reason. I'm not an academic so the extent of technical expertise is limited to one dissertation. Also my field of study is business related.
that those not excempt you from written a research...

Don't bother yourself..

When you gather your questionnaire and you set up to the field... Your first approach to your capture sample is your identity

The need to know who you are, your profession so that they can know how to relate or even give you the permission of the next question of what do you want or how can they help you..
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op):
akintom:
Do you understand it now?
i think i can try. .
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 3:06pm On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
that those not excempt from written a research...

Don't bother yourself..

When you gather your questionnaire and you set up to the field... Your first approach to giur capture sample
That is but one method, primary data yes but also not applicable to all fields of research.

I used secondary data from a reputable financial platform as that was the best and most efficient way relevant to my study.

Still how does this relate? We are debating here in a forum, it is not an academic paper.
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 3:23pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
That is but one method, primary data yes but also not applicable to all fields of research.

I used secondary data from a reputable financial platform as that was the best and most efficient way relevant to my study.

Still how does this relate? We are debating here in a forum, it is not an academic paper.
in some institution, your dissertation will have been easily rejected on the condition of Inappropriateness of the data. Data collected by oneself (primary data) is collected with a concrete idea in mind. Usually to answer a research question or just meet certain objectives. In this sense, secondary data sources may provide you with vast amount of information as you said. but quantity is not synonymous of appropriateness. This is simply because it has been collected to answer a different research question or objectives. Therefore whenever you are making a futher research next time, try to use both....


The pupose of this Is to test the appropriate of your question to the topic..


Yes we are debating,, but we should work like an academia not just debate for debating sake .
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by ScienceWatch: 4:55pm On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
bro...am focused...... I just maintain your postulation for the sake of argument... I could have easily tell you , it isn't possible


I did it to welcome reflectivity in the argument.... I realised you are pointing to a disscustion that require more details... Which I did... So I will rather accuse you of derailing... But no problem if it will make you better..

You are in a physical universe and you Wanner know is origin.. Which means you Wanner know is beginning... And you think your first questions will be how ?

Let's try your logic here..

How does the world came into existence

Or who created the universe to be so...

Your first best answer will be who created the world....why ? if you know the being , it may save you from how...knowing the being will also reflect his attribute...

From there you can gather an assumptions... You can then raised the second question how those the being created the universe....
Hey, I just brought my supper over to witness genius. Awesome rebuttal Vaxx !!!
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 5:01pm On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
in some institution, your dissertation will have been easily rejected on the condition of Inappropriateness of the data. Data collected by oneself (primary data) is collected with a concrete idea in mind. Usually to answer a research question or just meet certain objectives. In this sense, secondary data sources may provide you with vast amount of information as you said. but quantity is not synonymous of appropriateness. This is simply because it has been collected to answer a different research question or objectives. Therefore whenever you are making a futher research next time, try to use both....


The pupose of this Is to test the appropriate of your question to the topic..


Yes we are debating,, but we should work like an academia not just debate for debating sake .
You apparently fall into the category of those who work hard. I choose to work smart.
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 5:03pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
You apparently fall into the category of those who work hard. I choose to work smart.
Lolz....Look at what too much intelligence has caused oh...Chai...Chineke... grin
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 5:10pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
You apparently fall into the category of those who work hard. I choose to work smart.
it is not only about hard work, it is about (accurateness.) Living No chance for flaws....makng your work flawless....
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 5:13pm On Oct 15, 2017
supersystemsnig:
Lolz....Look at what too much intelligence has caused oh...Chai...Chineke... grin
It's not too much intelligence. The guy is talking methodology without considering research objectives. Which is the first step before determining how those objectives can be met-the information required, the nature of data required and the best way of gathering it.
My work was quantitative, was longitudinal and cross sectional and he is chatting questionnaire. Trying to fit a square peg into a round hole rather than whittling the peg into the shape of the hole.

But hardly surprising because the whole premise of my previous rebuttal to him is narrow thinking, failure to consider that sometimes we need to reframe the question.
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 5:16pm On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
it is not only about hard work, it is about (accurateness.) Living No chance for flaws....makng your work flawless....
Again, what you know is not applicable to my experience. My field, we focus on "true" and "fair" representation, not accurate.
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 5:17pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
It's not too much intelligence. The guy is talking methodology without considering research objectives. Which is the first step before determining how those objectives can be met-the information required, the nature of data required and the best way of gathering it.
My work was quantitative, was longitudinal and cross sectional and he is chatting questionnaire. Trying to fit a square peg into a round hole rather than whittling the peg into the shape of the hole.

But hardly surprising because the whole premise of my previous rebuttal to him is narrow thinking, failure to consider that sometimes we need to reframe the question.
I agree, however both of you have more or less not too distant positions on the issue at hand. While, both of you have let me call it, " RIGHTS ", i believe vaxx is somewhat prone to speculation and subjective reasoning, a little here and there, which is why i told him earlier to take off the lid and entertain different ideologies as it will help him see things from a different position and draw up better conclusions...I believe you're also saying the same thing...Many of his questions have limited the scope of reasoning even before answers can be provided...


BRB Guys, meeting
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Martin0(m): 5:24pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
It's not too much intelligence. The guy is talking methodology without considering research objectives. Which is the first step before determining how those objectives can be met-the information required, the nature of data required and the best way of gathering it.
My work was quantitative, was longitudinal and cross sectional and he is chatting questionnaire. Trying to fit a square peg into a round hole rather than whittling the peg into the shape of the hole.

But hardly surprising because the whole premise of my previous rebuttal to him is narrow thinking, failure to consider that sometimes we need to reframe the question.
Uhmm as I seat and drink my chilled garri wth milk on it and my peanuts..

Waow reading your comments will be nice..
Ride on shay shaycheesycheesycheesy
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 5:29pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
It's not too much intelligence. The guy is talking methodology without considering research objectives. Which is the first step before determining how those objectives can be met-the information required, the nature of data required and the best way of gathering it.
My work was quantitative, was longitudinal and cross sectional and he is chatting questionnaire. Trying to fit a square peg into a round hole rather than whittling the peg into the shape of the hole.

But hardly surprising because the whole premise of my previous rebuttal to him is narrow thinking, failure to consider that sometimes we need to reframe the question.
A good research work should involve quantitative and qualitative ....that make your thesis rich....mix method... Why?
You need different tools to get to different answers. Sometimes you need more than one method to get the full picture of what you're exploring to really understand what is going on.


Your rebuttal failes to also consolidate mine...in fact you are using the same premises you are also guilty of..

You can't ask who if you are alone


And I ask you, can you ask what if you are alone....? Or how?

For you to take my argument has narrow minded which you speculate, ensure your rebuttal is not faulty...


I like your braveness as a lady...
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 5:32pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
Again, what you know is not applicable to my experience. My field, we focus on "true" and "fair" representation, not accurate.
true and fair....then there comes a problem.... How do I measure the standard of the truth nor the standard of the fairness.... There must be a lay down accurate procedure to do so...which I reccomend...
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 5:35pm On Oct 15, 2017
supersystemsnig:
I agree, however both of you have more or less not too distant positions on the issue at hand. While, both of you have let me call it, " RIGHTS ", i believe vaxx is somewhat prone to speculation and subjective reasoning, a little here and there, which is why i told him earlier to take off the lid and entertain different ideologies as it will help him see things from a different position and draw up better conclusions...I believe you're also saying the same thing...Many of his questions have limited the scope of reasoning even before answers can be provided...


BRB Guys, meeting
bro is there anything like objective reasoning?
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 5:43pm On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
A good research work should involve quantitative and qualitative ....that make your thesis rich....mix method... Why?
You need different tools to get to different answers. Sometimes you need more than one method to get the full picture of what you're exploring to really understand what is going on.


Your rebuttal failes to also consolidate mine...in fact you are using the same premises you are also guilty of..

You can't ask who if you are alone


And I ask you, can you ask what if you are alone....? Or how?

For you to take my argument has narrow minded which you speculate, ensure your rebuttal is not faulty...


I like your braveness as a lady...
Be that as it may needing both, questionnaires had no place in mine.
If you showed the aptitude for asking the right questions, the next question would be " why would true and fair be an acceptable standard"? In what instances might questionnaires not be applicable? True, quantitative studies often have their qualitative aspects, are there other ways of measuring this?

But no, you keep banging on about questionnaires. Because like your previous obsession with using "who" without considering why that may limit your exploration, you are doing the same here.
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 5:45pm On Oct 15, 2017
Martin0:
Uhmm as I seat and drink my chilled garri wth milk on it and my peanuts..

Waow reading your comments will be nice..
Ride on shay shaycheesycheesycheesy
Why are you mean like this? angry
Is this how to treat a friend?
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 6:01pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
Be that as it may needing both, questionnaires had no place in mine.
If you showed the aptitude for asking the right questions, the next question would be " why would true and fair be an acceptable standard"? In what instances might questionnaires not be applicable? True, quantitative studies often have their qualitative aspects, are there other ways of measuring this?

But no, you keep banging on about questionnaires. Because like your previous obsession with using "who" without considering why that may limit your exploration, you are doing the same here.
beauty...i brought the questionnaire argument not because I want to invalidate your argument but to let you see the argument from a scholarship angle.... You are a scholar, so i expect you to also debate using such perspective....


Hope you get me now...
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Martin0(m): 6:29pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
Why are you mean like this? angry Is this how to treat a friend?
Hahahaha cheesycheesycheesy Shay shay I nor go mean for wia u dey nacheesy Oya come with you wide spoon mouth
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 6:32pm On Oct 15, 2017
vaxx:
beauty...i brought the questionnaire argument not because I want to invalidate your argument but to let you see the argument from a scholarship angle.... You are a scholar, so i expect you to also debate using such perspective....


Hope you get me now...
With all due respect, you shouldn't have any expectations of me nor anyone on this platform.
Withy regards to the topic, you failed to set the parameters so anything goes.

If you wanted arguments presented like an academic discourse, say so from the onset.

And no I am not a scholar, there might be others on here who have earned the right to be called that but certainly not me.

Anyways if your aim was to show me not to necessarily exclude a methodology, then the same could apply to you. But until we can incontrovertibly discard one option, it remains in the running.
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 6:33pm On Oct 15, 2017
Martin0:
Hahahaha cheesycheesycheesy
Shay shay I nor go mean for wia u dey nacheesy
Oya come with you wide spoon mouth
No! I will a serving spoon instead. That one is my size.
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx(op): 6:47pm On Oct 15, 2017
shaybebaby:
With all due respect, you shouldn't have any expectations of me nor anyone on this platform.
Withy regards to the topic, you failed to set the parameters so anything goes.

If you wanted arguments presented like an academic discourse, say so from the onset.

And no I am not a scholar, there might be others on here who have earned the right to be called that but certainly not me.

Anyways if your aim was to show me not to necessarily exclude a methodology, then the same could apply to you. But until we can incontrovertibly discard one option, it remains in the running.
from experience, Don't argue with ladies...you will never win...I agree with you... I appericiate your brilliance.... You are making the world woman proud...


Take this gambia rice for dinner and .for your awesome brilliant...

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