BestieSome:
It's now very evident that you think with your anus. You are so deluded to the extent that your reasoning has now become a backward process. A simple question is; did your 'chief pig' flaunt any of the bail conditions that led to the siege on him? Answer that with your fish brain and come back to engage me. Fo.ols! No wonder you are pigs!

so d Nigerian Army are the courts that granted him bail?

Diso60090:
The guy dey east London i see am which day here

y u no blow whistle, Afonja.

coluka:


You're the one who is foolish. You're just tying yourself up in legal knots. Let me break it down for you. If the military invasion was because he violated his Bail conditions then it was wrong because only the courts can determine that and revoke the bail if he is found to be in breach. The government can not resort to self help. If on the other hand, the invasion was for security breaches by Kanu, then the government is well within her rights to act to secure the country but the action of government automatically releases Kanu's sureties from the responsibility of producing him in court for the original matter. Whether the said security breaches also amount to a violation of his bail conditions or not. All the sureties need to prove is that the government for whatever reasons has taken actions that impeded their ability to provide Kanu in court which is quite easy to prove and they will be acquitted of any further responsibilities regarding kanu

The govt doesn't need the court, if they perceive his actions as a threat to national security, which forming a state within a state is. The army hve a right to do what they did. The proscription of the group by the court eben makes it easy to understand tht.

The army issued a statement tht they did not abduct or kidnap kanu.. So its d duty of the accuser to prove Hus abduction....saying they kidnapped him n all tht r all just beer parlour talk

bumi10:
wahala dey

Mark my word, no wahala at all.

PLEASE READ THIS POST WITH FREE MIND AND THINK DEEP:
It was *Karl Marx* who said that history repeats itself, first as tragedy and second as farce.
*Edmund Burke said, 'Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.*
I am mystified that many prefer to sit quietly and watch the evolving Igbo self destruction like car crash in slow motion. No one starts a war before he assembles an army. We did it first as an understandable tragedy and we seem bent on repeating it as a calculated farce. We are playing politics of secession unprepared with people, who have prepared for it for more than 50 years. We have chosen to do it at a time, Nigerian soldiers are trained in Hausa language and a large population of northerners are armed. What the north would have found difficult to do, Biafra agitation has provided the justification. By choosing to agitate for Biafra instead of injustices and marginalisation suffered in Nigeria, some of us have sadly removed the focus from injustice to secession. Never mind that injustice is the reason for secession. We want to benefit from the audacity of a rabble rouser, who fights with his tongue in war that requires wits and stratagem. I would like to once more say that ethnic politics in a multiethnic nation is almost always bad politics. It pitches one group against another
and it is often a zero sum game. It often fails because the focus is on the ethnic group uniting on a particular position, instead of on interrogation of the position to ascertain its soundness. People are told to agree with the position of the group to demonstrate unity and often they are compelled to sail on a ship they know has holes in its hull. Those who dissent are not seen as patriots, who want the people to get it right, but as saboteurs who do like the 'supreme' leaders.
To confront the Nigerian state without a coherent narrative, strategy and tactics, at a time the
north is in control of security and political power is naivety that borders on recklessness and impunity. Inflammatory words and utterances, irresponsible statements and ill thought out plans
are not evidence of well thought strategy and tactics. To talk of Biafran Army, without idea of how it will be equipped and soldiers paid, is to say the least mindless and suicidal. All these are suggestive of magical thinking, delusion of grandeur and overvalued ideas. These may appeal to a population which is limited by beliefs, faith and traditions, but will be irresponsibility to men of reason and objective minds. People who support such spontaneous uprising have no real understanding of what a good society means and how to achieve it beyond what they think or believe God says in his 'Holy Bible" Events so far points to the building of a personality cult and a society, where individuals are more important than their ideas. This is very dangerous and retrogressive. Yes, IPOB has resurrected the spirit of Biafra, but to whose benefit and to what end? What will be the price, and who will pay it? The Tamils Tigers were very much more prepared, organised and strategic, than IPOB, yet they lost because they failed to interrogate their plan to determine its sustainability and ability to withstand whatever their opponents would throw at them. They failed to build bridges, and reach out to potential allies and friends. They did not know when to stop agitating?
So far, the utterances of Nnamdi Kanu and activities of IPOB are harming Igbo and South East unity. They are destroying Igbo businesses. They are damaging the careers of Igbos in the Army, Police, and Customs. They are threatening our relationship with other ethnic groups in Nigeria.
*It represents the ugly face of ethnic nationalism.*
They are destroying trust, creating instability, burning bridges, widening differences, reviving ethnic prejudices and enthroning autocracy and the rule of the mob. We are hearing of supreme leader and God speaking to men in attempt to exploit the ignorance of the people through mysticism.
The only person who has benefited so far and, who stands to benefit, if this charade continues is Nnamdi Kanu. Many continue to languish in prison and many resting in untimely graves. Not a
single road has been built. Not a single classroom has been refurbished. Not a single corrupt politician has been replaced or voted out of office. Not a single hospital has been built. Not a single job has been created. What we have witnessed is the evolution of a primitive society, autocracy and primitive personality cult. *Our elders are watching while a tethered goat gives birth*.
Who will tell Emperor Nnamdi Kanu that he is naked, without being accused of hating him and or being against Biafra?
*The stage is set for avoidable mistake and tomorrow, people will say, he had no choice.*
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coluka:
You're the one who is foolish. You're just tying yourself up in legal knots. Let me break it down for you. If the military invasion was because he violated his Bail conditions then it was wrong because only the courts can determine that and revoke the bail if he is found to be in breach. The government can not resort to self help. If on the other hand, the invasion was for security breaches by Kanu, then the government is well within her rights to act to secure the country but the action of government automatically releases Kanu's sureties from the responsibility of producing him in court for the original matter. Whether the said security breaches also amount to a violation of his bail conditions or not. All the sureties need to prove is that the government for whatever reasons has taken actions that impeded their ability to provide Kanu in court which is quite easy to prove and they will be acquitted of any further responsibilities regarding kanu

Please what part of the constitution or existing laws back up all these stories you wrote here?? Abi, these stories are just a figment of your imagination? Nothing absolves a surety of the liability to produce the accused in court, on due date. If he fails to do so, he loses the amount paid as a bond. End of story.

magoo10:
It is not possible for abaribe to produce KANU when it is evidently clear that the Nigeria army messed up big time by invading his home.
This case between abaribe and the courts will only drag on and on fruitlessly, at best it will form an educational exercise.
The case involving Nnamdi kanu have been stalled by the army who invaded his home,it is now about refunding abaribes bail bond.

Why not sack Abaribe's lawyer and replace him? Since his brain no reach yours half.

100 million naira just gone like that. That is why you should not be surety to someone you don't trust. If Kanu is not found, the man will definitely lose his money or be remanded in prison. That is why when you stand surety for someone for bail what you're saying indirectly is that " I'm responsible for this persons whereabouts and if this person runs away, then arrest me in his place"

IPOBIANS aren't gona b having dinner tonight.

Their saliva now taste bitter. E pain dem touch marrow.

The criers have started showcasing their talents - wail

And for Abaribe, when next you hia IP, u nor go wait to hia OB before u go pick race.

They deserve no sensible human pity face.

Every person wey don try render help dey always leave with regret.

THEY ARE CURSED GROUP WHOSE PRESENCE IS A THREAT TO THE EXISTENCE OF RIGHT LIVING HUMAN RACE.

FLEE FROM IPOB!

IPOBIANS ARE AGENTS OF EVIL!

FLEE!

bakila:

Sorry it is lefelendum not referendum.

I no hear word with this Una Catalonia noise some weeks back, today no one uses it as example again.

tishbite41:
y u no blow whistle, Afonja.

i forget am for house the time i see am

aariwa:
The judge should have entertained the motion,then heard argument from both sides before making a ruling and not making Kanu's presence a condition precedent for entertaining the motion.I think the judge is biased in this matter.If there is any lawyer colleague in this forum with a different view ,he/she can quote/reply me with their own position(s)

The subject matter of bail was what the court adjourned on at the last session, so it has to proceed from there after all the Kanu boy is the main tribalist, religious bigot and terrorist leader on trial.

Therefore it's important to know his whereabouts before anything else.

I also think by choosing the 3rd option that's to say choosing to be given time to produce the criminal Nnamdi Kanu in court means the surety is complicity in the disappearance or non appearance in court.

The sureties should have chosen the 1st option and thereby speed up the trial and true absolve themselves of blame in Nnamdi Kanu's induced smokescreen confrontation with the army on routine exercise to escape justice.

So yes I agree that the judge is biased but biased towards the prosecution, she should have granted all our prayers particularly the sending them to prison prayers, so we can get to learn what the Constitution would do about the sinator's seat, and speed up the trail and recapture of Kanu with a warrant

SalamRushdie:


Use your head how did Kanu scam them ? Did Kanu plan with the Nigerian Army to storm his home and abduct him ..Keep dancing to injustice and it will son be your turn to taste it

always whining as usual.

gozie2000:
PLEASE READ THIS POST WITH FREE MIND AND THINK DEEP:
It was *Karl Marx* who said that history repeats itself, first as tragedy and second as farce.
*Edmund Burke said, 'Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.*
I am mystified that many prefer to sit quietly and watch the evolving Igbo self destruction like car crash in slow motion. No one starts a war before he assembles an army. We did it first as an understandable tragedy and we seem bent on repeating it as a calculated farce. We are playing politics of secession unprepared with people, who have prepared for it for more than 50 years. We have chosen to do it at a time, Nigerian soldiers are trained in Hausa language and a large population of northerners are armed. What the north would have found difficult to do, Biafra agitation has provided the justification. By choosing to agitate for Biafra instead of injustices and marginalisation suffered in Nigeria, some of us have sadly removed the focus from injustice to secession. Never mind that injustice is the reason for secession. We want to benefit from the audacity of a rabble rouser, who fights with his tongue in war that requires wits and stratagem. I would like to once more say that ethnic politics in a multiethnic nation is almost always bad politics. It pitches one group against another
and it is often a zero sum game. It often fails because the focus is on the ethnic group uniting on a particular position, instead of on interrogation of the position to ascertain its soundness. People are told to agree with the position of the group to demonstrate unity and often they are compelled to sail on a ship they know has holes in its hull. Those who dissent are not seen as patriots, who want the people to get it right, but as saboteurs who do like the 'supreme' leaders.
To confront the Nigerian state without a coherent narrative, strategy and tactics, at a time the
north is in control of security and political power is naivety that borders on recklessness and impunity. Inflammatory words and utterances, irresponsible statements and ill thought out plans
are not evidence of well thought strategy and tactics. To talk of Biafran Army, without idea of how it will be equipped and soldiers paid, is to say the least mindless and suicidal. All these are suggestive of magical thinking, delusion of grandeur and overvalued ideas. These may appeal to a population which is limited by beliefs, faith and traditions, but will be irresponsibility to men of reason and objective minds. People who support such spontaneous uprising have no real understanding of what a good society means and how to achieve it beyond what they think or believe God says in his 'Holy Bible" Events so far points to the building of a personality cult and a society, where individuals are more important than their ideas. This is very dangerous and retrogressive. Yes, IPOB has resurrected the spirit of Biafra, but to whose benefit and to what end? What will be the price, and who will pay it? The Tamils Tigers were very much more prepared, organised and strategic, than IPOB, yet they lost because they failed to interrogate their plan to determine its sustainability and ability to withstand whatever their opponents would throw at them. They failed to build bridges, and reach out to potential allies and friends. They did not know when to stop agitating?
So far, the utterances of Nnamdi Kanu and activities of IPOB are harming Igbo and South East unity. They are destroying Igbo businesses. They are damaging the careers of Igbos in the Army, Police, and Customs. They are threatening our relationship with other ethnic groups in Nigeria.
*It represents the ugly face of ethnic nationalism.*
They are destroying trust, creating instability, burning bridges, widening differences, reviving ethnic prejudices and enthroning autocracy and the rule of the mob. We are hearing of supreme leader and God speaking to men in attempt to exploit the ignorance of the people through mysticism.
The only person who has benefited so far and, who stands to benefit, if this charade continues is Nnamdi Kanu. Many continue to languish in prison and many resting in untimely graves. Not a
single road has been built. Not a single classroom has been refurbished. Not a single corrupt politician has been replaced or voted out of office. Not a single hospital has been built. Not a single job has been created. What we have witnessed is the evolution of a primitive society, autocracy and primitive personality cult. *Our elders are watching while a tethered goat gives birth*.
Who will tell Emperor Nnamdi Kanu that he is naked, without being accused of hating him and or being against Biafra?
*The stage is set for avoidable mistake and tomorrow, people will say, he had no choice.*
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Balanced debate !!!!

Ignorance is really a disease
So some still have the notion that the military is with Kanu

abaribe should stop fooling himself and forfeit his stolen money. d oda two sureties who fronted clean money have forgotten about dat. they did nt come or bother to send a lawyer. abaribe should stop embarrassing himself.

"A lawyer, Mr. Ogechi Ogunna, appeared for Abaribe on Tuesday, informing the judge that his client had filed a motion seeking to be discharged as Kanu’s surety"


Abaribe bn don plan to wash hand comot for Pigs and Idiots matter.

Once u have a tin or two to do with dem, na so so pain, anger and sadness go dey fall on you. Ask Abaribe make e tell u waiting him eyes don see lately.

RIGHT LIVING IGBOS ARE GREAT!

IPOBIANS ARE SORROW BRINGERS!

SalamRushdie:


God forbid , I remain steadfast that this will be Buhari last tenure, this kind of evil can't last long..God will definitely come through

u better prepare for more shock n frustration because buhari will rule till 2023.n even after that it's likely an Hausa man takes over again because all d presidential aspirants are Hausa's n even if u igbos vex present candidate nobody go vote for am except una cos u don cast

gozie2000:
PLEASE READ THIS POST WITH FREE MIND AND THINK DEEP:
It was *Karl Marx* who said that history repeats itself, first as tragedy and second as farce.
*Edmund Burke said, 'Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.*
I am mystified that many prefer to sit quietly and watch the evolving Igbo self destruction like car crash in slow motion. No one starts a war before he assembles an army. We did it first as an understandable tragedy and we seem bent on repeating it as a calculated farce. We are playing politics of secession unprepared with people, who have prepared for it for more than 50 years. We have chosen to do it at a time, Nigerian soldiers are trained in Hausa language and a large population of northerners are armed. What the north would have found difficult to do, Biafra agitation has provided the justification. By choosing to agitate for Biafra instead of injustices and marginalisation suffered in Nigeria, some of us have sadly removed the focus from injustice to secession. Never mind that injustice is the reason for secession. We want to benefit from the audacity of a rabble rouser, who fights with his tongue in war that requires wits and stratagem. I would like to once more say that ethnic politics in a multiethnic nation is almost always bad politics. It pitches one group against another
and it is often a zero sum game. It often fails because the focus is on the ethnic group uniting on a particular position, instead of on interrogation of the position to ascertain its soundness. People are told to agree with the position of the group to demonstrate unity and often they are compelled to sail on a ship they know has holes in its hull. Those who dissent are not seen as patriots, who want the people to get it right, but as saboteurs who do like the 'supreme' leaders.
To confront the Nigerian state without a coherent narrative, strategy and tactics, at a time the
north is in control of security and political power is naivety that borders on recklessness and impunity. Inflammatory words and utterances, irresponsible statements and ill thought out plans
are not evidence of well thought strategy and tactics. To talk of Biafran Army, without idea of how it will be equipped and soldiers paid, is to say the least mindless and suicidal. All these are suggestive of magical thinking, delusion of grandeur and overvalued ideas. These may appeal to a population which is limited by beliefs, faith and traditions, but will be irresponsibility to men of reason and objective minds. People who support such spontaneous uprising have no real understanding of what a good society means and how to achieve it beyond what they think or believe God says in his 'Holy Bible" Events so far points to the building of a personality cult and a society, where individuals are more important than their ideas. This is very dangerous and retrogressive. Yes, IPOB has resurrected the spirit of Biafra, but to whose benefit and to what end? What will be the price, and who will pay it? The Tamils Tigers were very much more prepared, organised and strategic, than IPOB, yet they lost because they failed to interrogate their plan to determine its sustainability and ability to withstand whatever their opponents would throw at them. They failed to build bridges, and reach out to potential allies and friends. They did not know when to stop agitating?
So far, the utterances of Nnamdi Kanu and activities of IPOB are harming Igbo and South East unity. They are destroying Igbo businesses. They are damaging the careers of Igbos in the Army, Police, and Customs. They are threatening our relationship with other ethnic groups in Nigeria.
*It represents the ugly face of ethnic nationalism.*
They are destroying trust, creating instability, burning bridges, widening differences, reviving ethnic prejudices and enthroning autocracy and the rule of the mob. We are hearing of supreme leader and God speaking to men in attempt to exploit the ignorance of the people through mysticism.
The only person who has benefited so far and, who stands to benefit, if this charade continues is Nnamdi Kanu. Many continue to languish in prison and many resting in untimely graves. Not a
single road has been built. Not a single classroom has been refurbished. Not a single corrupt politician has been replaced or voted out of office. Not a single hospital has been built. Not a single job has been created. What we have witnessed is the evolution of a primitive society, autocracy and primitive personality cult. *Our elders are watching while a tethered goat gives birth*.
Who will tell Emperor Nnamdi Kanu that he is naked, without being accused of hating him and or being against Biafra?
*The stage is set for avoidable mistake and tomorrow, people will say, he had no choice.*
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epistle of an Afonja. enjoy ur slavery. Igbos won't serve d fulanis.

Diso60090:
i forget am for house the time i see am

no forget am next tym

SalamRushdie:
The Judge is being very myopic and deliberately shallow , the only party complicit in the Kanus unavailability is the party that used machine guns to storm his home killing everything in sight including the dog and that party is no other than the Federal Govt of Nigeria under the bad leadership of Buhari ...If the Army didn't abduct Kanu he will be in court today and any attempt to blame Abaribe is nothing but an affront on Justice which this unfortunate govt knows nothing about .

Remove sentiment from this issue! If he has followed his Bail conditions his coming to court of law would have be that of a hero, but he jumped his bail conditions that may have led to the invasion.

SalamRushdie:


Did you even here the judge at all , she claimed she is not aware of a military operation in Kanus home

what she is trying to say is that u should prove beyond reasonable doubt that kanu was kidnapped by Nigerian army. if u have pictures or videos of them taking him away. simple

python1:
Gbam. That was the agreement. If you didn't stand for him, the chief pig wouldn't have escaped. Yes, can cease to be his surety but after producing the chief pig. If kanu use u play mmm, dat one na your plate of akpu.

Parasite. Still singing for your "food is ready" political arrangement which Fulani-loyal military dictators crafted for Fulani dominance of Nigeria, and supervised a 1999 constitution to legitimize.
The arrangement failed Nigeria,including you.
Nnamdi Kanu was bold enough to challenge it.

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discusant:


Parasite. Still singing for your "food is ready" political arrangement which Fulani-loyal military dictators crafted for Fulani dominance of Nigeria, and supervised a 1999 constitution to legitimize.
The arrangement failed Nigeria,including you.
Nnamdi Kanu was bold enough to challenge it.

[/s]
If I fit for parasite, potopoto people are then sapping parasites because they don't add a dime to the economy.

i like d way dis Judge is handling it, nxt time, thy wil think trice before standing as surety as d case may be.





100M no beans for dis Era.

My question is during Jonathan's government the agitation was not loud this way,what when wrong?

tishbite41:
no forget am next tym

ok bros

brightalo17:


I no hear word with this Una Catalonia noise some weeks back, today no one uses it as example again.

Spain way don jail catalonia activist.......

As defined by the Black’s Law Dictionary, a surety is “a person who is primarily liable for paying another’s debt or performing another’s obligation…”, the concept has also been categorised into a broader and narrow sense viz; ‘a surety, in the broad sense, is one who is liable for the debt or obligation of another, whether primarily or secondarily, conditionally or unconditionally...’ A surety in the narrow sense is one who is liable in form primarily on the debt or obligation of another,” Laurence P. Simpson, Handbook on the Law of Suretyship 6, 8-9 (1950).
In the Nigerian legal system, an accused is hardly granted bail without a surety in criminal proceedings due to the high tendency of accused persons jumping bail. By the provision of Section 345 of the Criminal Procedure Code, before any person is released on bail, he shall execute a bond for the sum of money as the officer in charge of the police station or court thinks sufficient on condition that such person shall attend at the time and place mentioned in the bond and shall continue so to attend until otherwise directed by the court and if he is released on bail, the sureties shall execute the same or another bond or other bonds containing conditions to the same effect i.e assuring the court that the accused shall always be present for his trial.
Section 355 of the Criminal Procedure Code provides that, “when a person is bound by any bond to appear before a court does not so appear, the court may issue a warrant for his arrest”. A careful perusal of the definition of surety viz-a-vis the provisions of the Criminal Procedure Code would show that were an accused person released on bail does not appear at his trial, the next person the court would look at is his/her surety, who would come to court and explain the whereabouts of the accused or forfeit his bond and were the court deems fit, be committed to prison if he cannot explain the whereabouts of the accused.
A young wig should not place himself in such an unhealthy setting.
A situation may arise where a client’s relative has been in police custody for weeks and a young wig is called upon to go and secure the release of the suspect, on getting to the station, the Investigating Police Officer (IPO) gives a condition that due to the gravity of the offense the young wig must counter sign the bail bond. Considering the pressure from the family of the suspect because of the number of days spent behind bars and from his law firm to get the job done, the young wig might feel tempted to sign the bail bond; by the way Nigeria Police (who is your friend) has assured the young wig that he is not a surety, just counter signing the bail bond.
As a young wig don’t let such pressure deceive you into digging a trap with your own hands, please don’t stand surety or counter sign any bail bond.
We have seen lawyers standing trial as accused persons because they stood surety for an accused in the past, sometimes the lawyer-client relationship between them terminates and the lawyer is still bound by the bail bond since he has not discharged himself as a surety to the accused.

copied from thisday!

unless the Semator can prove that the Nigerian govt, who is also d aggrieved party in the lawsuit, had a hand in pushing NK to abscond or "disappear", those bail bonds must be certified to surety!
pls let us discuss with an educated or enlightened mind. I had to browse about surety and nigeria legal system to weigh this issue without coming across as ignorant to a lawyer or biased to the unenlightened! google is ur friend! and also prevent ursef from getting into such ugly situations!

Megatrix:
The judge is just joking. How can the sureties be held responsible for his inability to appear when everybody knows how and why he disappeared? The militarsy is responsible for his disappearance. This judgement will not stand on appeal

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you even get sense self ? dont you know sureties should responsible which kind school u go self