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mrdickhead:
thank you brother,how I wish many Christian will understand that men of God are just human like us,I still have a pastor friend I do correct and advice,I'm from a Christian home which most of my family members are pastors and I know how we do relate,remain small thing God for don call me since

Exactly. We are all human beings but the way the average Christian elevates a pastor to the position of a mediator is really alarming.

Aonkuuse:
If you are confessing for a reverend father to pray for you then who is the reverend father confessing to...

They also do their confession.

BluntBoy:
Judgement is condemnation. For instance, telling someone that they would go to hell. That is condemnation (judgement). Only God can judge.

Judgement can also be positive. But in all, only God can judge.

Are you saying that all the criminal courts on the planet are invalid, according to the Bible?

That bosses don't have a right form opinions and make decisions because 'only god can judge'?

Orubebe01:
I was in a service one day and the man of God said the members shouldn't advice him when they feel that he is not living up to expectation, rather they should go on their knee and pray. I want to know the proper thing to do in such situation.

Yes, you have to walk up to them to advice. Catholic priest always says that when they are wrong, come and tell them what they are doing is wrong, rather than sit and condemn.
Please, go with love to tell your pastor that he is wrong.

mmsen:
Are you saying that all the criminal courts on the planet are invalid, according to the Bible?

That bosses don't have a right form opinions and make decisions because 'only god can judge'?

We are talking about spiritual matters here. God does not need to form an opinion to judge.

Orubebe01:
I was in a service one day and the man of God said the members shouldn't advice him when they feel that he is not living up to expectation, rather they should go on their knee and pray. I want to know the proper thing to do in such situation.

That is pride.The bible says by their fruits you shall know them.Pride is not of God

Aonkuuse:
Bro men of God nowadays thinks they have reach the pink of spirituality but don't worry they will be surprise on the day of judgment. The same thing in Catholic churches, a man will leave his brother at home which he has wronged to come and confess in church for him to be prayed for. If you are confessing for a reverend father to pray for you then who is the reverend father confessing to, to be prayed for. Or reverend fathers no de sin?

your hate for Catholic eeeeehhhhh watin join confession and the matter

sim37:
call him to order. no one is above mistake

My former pastor will not be happy with you, and will find a way to be avoiding you. She will take style somehow attack you on pupit. May God help us.

Hades2016:
go try am make pastor use you do the next topic for church ... " Trying to advise the pastor "

That's what I just said now. He stylishly attack you on pupit. In fact you have becomes his enemy from then. I refused to support my G.o to punished one pastor, when I felt it doesn't what it. I became her enemy. Am no longer there now.

. advice ke?

most pastor feel like "angel Michael junior brother "... advice them and they would use you to do sermon the next Sunday

Benekruku:
Touch not my annointed


Even when he fvcks your wife and sisters, remember, "Thou shall not judge"

Menn that s very hilarious. . Honestly I won't take it.

Aonkuuse:
Bro men of God nowadays thinks they have reach the peak of spirituality but don't worry they will be surprise on the day of judgment. The same thing in Catholic churches, a man will leave his brother at home which he has wronged to come and confess in church for him to be prayed for. If you are confessing for a reverend father to pray for you then who is the reverend father confessing to, to be prayed for. Or reverend fathers no de sin?

They do of course! And they meet other priests for such.

BluntBoy:
We are talking about spiritual matters here. God does not need to form an opinion to judge.

How does one make a judgment without forming an opinion?

On what basis is the judgment made?

juniorboy:
LOL, funny statements. A pastor can't do anything wrong? I think you're living in the back-side of earth.

He was being sarcastic!

Princewell2012:
That's what I just said now. He stylishly attack you on pupit. In fact you have becomes his enemy from then. I refused to support my G.o to punished one pastor, when I felt it doesn't what it. I became her enemy. Am no longer there now.

better , more reason I don't go to church, I only go to prayer service during the week ....

Obaf1:
u go just hear open the book of proverb chapter pra to pra, let somebody read, "a man in gallili is trying to advice a prophet.......... And God send stone to destroy him.....lol..... D guy go just bust in tear noni....

no kill person with laff ooooo

Aonkuuse:
Bro men of God nowadays thinks they have reach the pink of spirituality but don't worry they will be surprise on the day of judgment. The same thing in Catholic churches, a man will leave his brother at home which he has wronged to come and confess in church for him to be prayed for. If you are confessing for a reverend father to pray for you then who is the reverend father confessing to, to be prayed for. Or reverend fathers no de sin?

Your post reeks of ignorance

All the advice people have been giving them fall on deaf ears. Are the pastor's deaf or they're just too pompous

That was how one pastor was supporting his member that wanted to dupe my sister. Shouting at my sister and my sister was letting him shout cos he's a pastor.
My lawd, I nearly beat up both pastor and member when I got there till agreed to refund the complete money.

mmsen:
How does one make a judgment without forming an opinion?

On what basis is the judgment made?

Bro, I said we were discussing spiritual matters here and not legal and/or common knowledge. Men need to form opinions to pass judgement but God does not. In spiritual matters, you are not to pass judgement but can criticize and/or correct, albeit, in love.

For instance, an example of criticism and/or correction is "your sermon is unbiblical. You made it seem like pastors should be seen as mediators but the Bible says otherwise. Let us check the Bible and see how it puts it".


An example of passing judgement is: "God, your sermon was terrible. You are going to hell for sure."

This may not agree with the legalistic or general sense of the word "judgement" because I am using it contextually with regard to the Bible. Do not judge as used in Bible means not to condemn. You can correct one another but you are not allowed to condemn people.

The Bible makes it evident that God is not against legalistic judgement. After all, we are expected to give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to respect constituted authority.

Aonkuuse:
Bro men of God nowadays thinks they have reach the peak of spirituality but don't worry they will be surprise on the day of judgment. The same thing in Catholic churches, a man will leave his brother at home which he has wronged to come and confess in church for him to be prayed for. If you are confessing for a reverend father to pray for you then who is the reverend father confessing to, to be prayed for. Or reverend fathers no de sin?

That Catholic own dey make me laugh...

You offended me, instead of you to beg for your life so I don't come for it, you carry your dumbass go to church to make confession to someone the matter does not concern.

Make the confession, when you're done, I'm still coming for your head.

People too mumu abeg, Catholics are damn funny. I was once one tho

Aonkuuse:
Bro men of God nowadays thinks they have reach the peak of spirituality but don't worry they will be surprise on the day of judgment. The same thing in Catholic churches, a man will leave his brother at home which he has wronged to come and confess in church for him to be prayed for. If you are confessing for a reverend father to pray for you then who is the reverend father confessing to, to be prayed for. Or reverend fathers no de sin?

Reverend fathers confess to reverend fathers who confess to themselves. Ur comment was not well thought of and spews of hypocrisy and ignorance cos u wanted to attack the church which u knew nothing about.
The topic though is very important and matured. I have no scruples telling them, pastors and priests when I feel they are wrong. Its one thing to be an adult and listen, its another thing to feel pompous and not. Who looses, the person that is being adviced and failed to learn nothing. No one knows it all. No one holy pass.

Aonkuuse:
Bro men of God nowadays thinks they have reach the peak of spirituality but don't worry they will be surprise on the day of judgment. The same thing in Catholic churches, a man will leave his brother at home which he has wronged to come and confess in church for him to be prayed for. If you are confessing for a reverend father to pray for you then who is the reverend father confessing to, to be prayed for. Or reverend fathers no de sin?

Another dead brain, uninformed idiot on the loose. You don't know what happens in the Catholic Church. You don't know how priests so their confession. So why not shut your useless mouth up instead of dabbling into what you don't understand, like a fool?

Call him to order he is a man of the flesh like us he not above mistake is only the tittle that make differences

ignis:
who are you to advise a man of God? Get on your knees and pray for him. If he didn't change, then it's about time you changed your church.

When will you wake up from your spiritual blindness to realise that you have the same access and right to God like your pastor? Who stuffed your brain with this stupid notion that you have no right to advise a man of God? It is people like you that will place the word of a pastor above that of your husband. You won't also mind defending a pastor even if he is obviously wrong. Girl look into your mirror and whoever you find there is the most thoughtless fool that ever traversed the earth.

Orubebe01:
I was in a service one day and the man of God said the members shouldn't advice him when they feel that he is not living up to expectation, rather they should go on their knee and pray. I want to know the proper thing to do in such situation.

That is a man of god not a man of God.

Many preachers are heresy preachers today

Aonkuuse:
Bro men of God nowadays thinks they have reach the peak of spirituality but don't worry they will be surprise on the day of judgment. The same thing in Catholic churches, a man will leave his brother at home which he has wronged to come and confess in church for him to be prayed for. If you are confessing for a reverend father to pray for you then who is the reverend father confessing to, to be prayed for. Or reverend fathers no de sin?

Why exposing your ignorance? Who told you Catholic priests do not go for confession?

Any pastor who can't take correction,is that one a pastor. The person who wishes to give the advice/correction must present it with wisdom though.

Matthew 18:2-4 (KJV)
2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven

We're all subject to the word. Contrary to what pple portray online, pastors are not greater than the members but scripturally on earth they are shepherds/eaders. Pastors should not command any special respect we're all appointed men and women of God.

If ur pastor makes mistake approach him and correct him

Afam4eva:
Why should you advise a Pastor when he's next after God. He can't do any wrong. The moment a person is proclaimed a pastor, he can't do any wrong. He's half spirit/half human. Even asking this kind of question may annoy God.

This sarcasm though...