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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:14pm On Oct 24, 2017
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A better pairing than Okazaki-Vardy?

Just because they beat Leeds.

I think he is trying to say that Kelechi combines better with Slimani than Vardy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by libero808(f): 10:15pm On Oct 24, 2017
haha.. slimani is a better match for iheanacho
don't mean they should start ahead of okazaki-vardy
lol
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A better pairing than Okazaki-Vardy?

Just because they beat Leeds.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 10:16pm On Oct 24, 2017
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A better pairing than Okazaki-Vardy?

Just because they beat Leeds.

Iheanacho is still very new,we dont know what is gonna become of the Leicester frontline in coming weeks. Slimani-Nacho could be a hit.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:17pm On Oct 24, 2017
Playing lower league opposition in cup games can be very tricky. It is not easy.

Kelechi scored a classy goal and provided an assist. That will give his confidence a world of good.

I believe he will still come good for leicester

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 10:18pm On Oct 24, 2017
Mujtahida:
On behalf of all English men we donate him back to the sender(winks)
lol mujtahida my Oga I hail o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:19pm On Oct 24, 2017
tbaba1234:


I think he is trying to say that Kelechi combines better with Slimani than Vardy.

Let them test that combo against an EPL team first before coming to that conclusion. They just played Leeds let's put away sentiments abeg.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:20pm On Oct 24, 2017
jotey:
lol mujtahida my Oga I hail o
My guy how e be na? How the ministry?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:20pm On Oct 24, 2017
Mujtahida:

On behalf of all English men we donate him back to the sender(winks)
England is just foolish and wicked...at same time
I read somewhere of their drive...to incite Fifa to start charging for fees on players nationality switch....

so wanna make monies from this players all because the guys were brought up in their academics...
no one is talking of the large sum...they've cornered from our corrupt politicians in form of money laundering...some of political thieves like ibori loot is still wit them....

same England forget the era of colonialism...where our vast resources like tin ore, arts and crafts were exported to their country...for example it is said that Liverpool own his earlier development from tin ore exported from pleateau state Nigeria....even some of our art works are still in their museum...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:21pm On Oct 24, 2017
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So the coach should bench their most prolific striker and play a wasteful Slimani just to accommodate Iheanacho? Or what are you saying? So what happens to Okazaki another very resourceful striker?

You make this conclusion from just a League Cup win against Leed?

It's not about accommodating anybody it is about the team playing better as a unit. Being a striker is not all about goals, Slimani will create chance by default.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:21pm On Oct 24, 2017
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Let them test that combo against an EPL team first before coming to that conclusion. They just played Leeds let's put away sentiments abeg.

No be Man city dey struggle with wolves. Playing lower league opposition is not easy.

There is nothing wrong or sentimental about that assessment.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:22pm On Oct 24, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Iheanacho is still very new,we dont know what is gonna become of the Leicester frontline in coming weeks. Slimani-Nacho could be a hit.

Come on let's be factual. We can be only hope.

Okazaki- Vardy is first choice.If it is only when Iheanacho combines with Slimani that he can play well then he is on a very long thing because we may only see that combo in a competition like the league cup.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 10:23pm On Oct 24, 2017
Danycrusoe:



Bro make I no lie u, I m not really good at discussing football tactically and analytically, reason is because 1) I am not always opportuned to see games frequently, Nigerian matches are the few ones I see on a frequent basis
2) I watch to entertain myself most of the times .

however I really want to go deep into tactical discussions but I find it hard to do and that's y I always watch others do it in order to learn.

before I only knew 4 departments on the field of play which is GK Defence Midfield and Attack now I know the sub departments like DM AM CF WF LB RB and some others. I v learnt a lot from this thread even more than playing Play Station has taught me.

I really value the contributions of Kog45 Tbaba Icon4s, please where is Joseph the founder of this thread he also is a member of the honourable elders, someone who has slotted into this thread without any look of a newcomer is soetanoreoluwa, I like his contributions too AiG07 where at thou, in fact everyone on this thread is great I appreciate always being here. Goke too is someone who drops by time to time. thegoodjoe I no 4get am. forgiveness, Mickeal, elyte and omanbala, how can I forget Komekn. he believes league 2 in England is bigger and better than the eredivise in Holland (na joke o bro).

so davep I'll join in the tactical and analytical discussion when I get the full grasp of it which is very very soon. for now I'll discuss the ones I can and no I'm not waiting for the NPFL that's a long time from now.

Actually I really miss your update on NPFL.. Even though I do follow it...

Am not new though... Being following as a guest since 2013...after kickoffnigeria and SL10 closed down and someone from Sl10 ..i couldnot remember his name... Brought a suggestion of nairaland... That made me jumped in ... But I didn't register... Just doing ghost reading ..

Until we lost against Egypt... During AFCON qualifier last year... I was so disappointed and battered... First time in my life Nigeria missing out of two consecutive afcon... grin
Me too dey learn too... Thanks to the elders in the house for updating Indomie generation like us... grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:25pm On Oct 24, 2017
jotey:


on behalf of all Nigerians I donate akpom to England
they can have him grin

Already talked about Akpom as not good enough.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:25pm On Oct 24, 2017
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Let them test that combo against an EPL team first before coming to that conclusion. They just played Leeds let's put away sentiments abeg.


Time will tell because I remember u having this same reaction about the 3-4-3.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:26pm On Oct 24, 2017
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Abegii, Chuba is one of those overhyped English groomed players just like Jodon "hype".

Akpom has never been hyped just failed potential.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:27pm On Oct 24, 2017
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I know but he is still no where near where he was hyped up to when he was at Liverpool.

Akpom has never been at Liverpool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:30pm On Oct 24, 2017
tbaba1234:


No be Man city dey struggle with wolves. Playing lower league opposition is not easy.

There is nothing wrong or sentimental about that assessment.

OK. I yaff heard.

Em what is that Leicester coach again? Due to the combination between Iheanacho and Slimani in today's League cup game against Leeds United. We recommend to you Iheanacho-Slimani combo as your first choice attacking force for the remainder of the EPL season.

Better now? Case closed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 10:31pm On Oct 24, 2017
Mujtahida:

I am very much like you as I watch football for enjoyment not as an intellectual exercise but goodjoe and Mickael2 pushed(I bet they don't know) to want to develop a more tactical eye. I wanted to understand what pressing meant, double pivot, gengen pressing, regista, libero, false nine etc. This site helped me. You might want to check it out: http://www.thefalse9.com

Thanks so much for the link bro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:32pm On Oct 24, 2017
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Come on let's be factual. We can be only hope.

Okazaki- Vardy is first choice.If it is only when Iheanacho combines with Slimani that he can play well then he is on a very long thing because we may only see that combo in a competition like the league cup.

True talk.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:38pm On Oct 24, 2017
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OK. I yaff heard.

Em what is that Leicester coach again? Due to the combination between Iheanacho and Slimani in today's League cup game against Leeds Unites. We recommend to you Iheanacho-Slimani combo as your first choice attacking force for the remainder of the EPL season.

Better now? Case closed.

Two different things.

Kelechi plays well with Slimani is not the same as drop your first choice forward line.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:39pm On Oct 24, 2017
komekn:

Akpom has never been at Liverpool
Of course Akpom is my Emirates boy. I was referring to Jodon Ibe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:40pm On Oct 24, 2017
Chai. person dey underrate wolves cos they are in championship? they have the same form as man city(no loss in 13games; w9. both top their tables), and are disciplined defensively.

From expression i read on Nacho's face, it seems he may like/dislike a manager on where he's played.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:40pm On Oct 24, 2017
komekn:


Akpom has never been at Liverpool
he was talking about Ibe, not Akpom
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:42pm On Oct 24, 2017
soetanoreoluwa:


Thanks so much for the link bro
You will enjoy the lucid articles there. Surprisingly it's Indians who have most of the blogs discussing the tactical side of football. That's what I noticed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:42pm On Oct 24, 2017
tbaba1234:


Two different things.

Kelechi plays well with Slimani is not the same as drop your first choice forward line.

Meaning we just wait until when next we see him play with Slimani before we should expect anything from him. Cos the comment is 'Iheanacho-Slimani is a BETTER combination'.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:43pm On Oct 24, 2017
safarigirl:
he was talking about Ibe, not Akpom

Thanks you gerrit.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dedebanky85: 10:50pm On Oct 24, 2017
What always killed us was the Nations cup in a world cup year. We had stupid administrators that used that as a yardstick and opportunity to boot the qualifying coach out if they didn't win the Nations cup. Happened to Amodu twice. In 1998 they wanted first class coach. But in 2014, there was no moral justification to remove Keshi as you cannot base a sack on friendly games.
But while they respected late Keshi, he selected his team in a criteria that was beyond any logical human comprehension. Though, we had an ok first 11, we had a rubbish bench and you need a good bench for competitions. He succumbed to the cries of journalists and agents. Hence, I like Rohr, cos he would not fall for this yama yama suggestions of players I see everywhere. He has that tough German coaching mentality and that would help us a lot.
Radical changes to a team never helps a team regardless of how good the new players are.




Icon4s:
Goke7 and realpoacher's posts just sparked some thing off my mind.

Can we do an x-ray of reasons for our failures in our last 5 participations?

Best way to solving a problem is actually to get to the root of the problem.

We as fans will not play for the Super Eagles in Russia. We are not part of the coaching crew. But we can make our own contributions by profiling the reasons for our 5 previous failures to go beyond the second round of the world cup.

As I have always said here, do not underestimate the contributions we make here. They go very far.
To be honest , some times, I feel Rohr and his crew get some things from here because we have seen things play out severally after we discuss them here.
Plus I know a couple of officials visit here. Eg Amuneke's U17 media officer and Siasia's late U23 media officer.

Most of us here know the history of Super Eagles participation and performances better than Rohr. So he may just learn a thing or two from us.

I expect opinions and counter opinions. All the same we can keep the discussion or arguments constructive.

To discuss this issue I need enough elders in the house as we may need to go back in time to address issues even from 1990 when Westerhof took over.
The younger generation too can equally contribute as a lot of those old games are available on YouTube.

enomakos, Kog45, forgiveness, tbaba1234, TheGoodJoe, Goldfish80, Michael2, Joseph1013, joebie, komekn, safarigirl, mujtahida, terzurum5, icon79, do4luv14, omanbala1, Chriskel, Chrisoblog, Orkpekyandega, Humility017, elyte89, Dedebanky85, soetanoreoluwa and many others.

It must not be in any order. Discuss any one you followed from 2014 to 1994.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 10:53pm On Oct 24, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Sir,we are not debating whether Victor Moses is a good player or not the topic is his selfishness which everybody here knows about. When I watch soccer I pay attention to every detail. Do that and you will see how VicMo can be very selfish even at the detriment of the whole team.
what if the decision to play unselfish could affect his game negatively,where he could no longer contribute to d success of the team.
which will lead to counter productive just because he wanted to please some people.
the truth is that Victor Moses is very effect with the way he plays,nobody need to tell him to adjust his game and becomes unselfish,because it gives us results.
there should be one player in a team that should be given the liberty to play that way as long as it produces results.
eg. NERMER,OKOCHA,RONALDINHO,etc.
the problem would be when most of the team start playing to their galleries. exception of just one player is ok for me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 10:58pm On Oct 24, 2017
Mujtahida:

You will enjoy the lucid articles there. Surprisingly it's Indians who have most of the blogs discussing the tactical side of football. That's what I noticed.

I'm really enjoying it... Very nice... Staying glued with it right now.. Thanks... I can see all goodjoe and Michael talks now grin...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jobsat34(m): 11:00pm On Oct 24, 2017
safarigirl:
I like that his name is CORRECTLY spelled on his jersey. Nice touch

Another Tap in from a Tap in Merchant shey?

I tot someone said he cudnt score from outside 18yd box
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:00pm On Oct 24, 2017
If kelechi improves on his first touch, he will be a far better player. Hopefully, his coaches identify that.

It is something that can be worked on..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 11:00pm On Oct 24, 2017
Of course, I’m expecting 95% of the players, who were called up for the last 3 games, to make the World Cup team. That’s just common sense. If Rohr only takes like 10% of the players who played in the qualifiers, I would immediately call for his sack.

At least, 16 or 17 of them (barring injury) will absolutely be part of the mundial. It is the other 6 or 7 spots that are really up for grabs.

If the likes of Onyekuru, Kayode, Aluko or Uzoho continue having fine performances for most of the remainder of the season, it will be difficult for Rohr not to give them a chance to show what they’ve got.

As for Enyeama, if he barely makes the bench for whatever new team he signs for, then Rohr may just have to drop him. However, it will be also a sad story if that happens, because a part of me wants Enyeama to create history as the first Nigerian (or even African?) to have played in 4 world cups.

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