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komekn:
Dele Alli left league 1, MK Dons straight to the premiership at only 19 and with top speed to the England senior team. Gomez at Liverpool left Charlton Athletic (league 1) straight to Liverpool first team at age 18, Ademola Lookman left Charlton Athletic straight to Everton first team. Calvert Lewin left Sheffield United straight too Everton first team. Why because they were outstanding players in those leagues. I could go on and on.

Fred Onyedinma at the tender age of 17 was awarded MOTM in the championship with Millwall. At this stage Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Man U, were all trying to sign him. His agents and Millwall messed up the transfer. Otherwise he would be in the EPL and his development would have taken a different trajectory. He currently is in the Championship with Millwall rejecting moves to other EPL clubs in favour of staying. See below links to substantiate my claims as not just my opinion.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/tottenham-vs-millwall-fred-onyedinma-on-being-back-of-neil-harris-new-local-generation-a7621936.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/watford-eyeing-move-millwall-winger-9720002

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/309464/Arsenal-to-fight-off-Manchester-City-and-Liverpool-for-Millwall-starlet-Fred-Onyedinma

I never ever reduced the standard but when a player proves his pedigree. As we say when small pikin wash hand, he go follow king chop.

When Tega had his first few weeks in the championship if we had invited him to the SE. Would we be having all this talk about him insulting Nigeria. We jumped on the bandwagon after he had blown up.

It's obvious you haven't watched Fred Onyedinma play. Watch his game in the FA cup against Tottenham and you go change mind.

I will talk of a Ghanaian origin player Tariq Ofosu, watched him as a teenager when Hope Akpan was at Reading Fc in the EPL then. I immediately pencilled him as outstanding quality. Unfortunately he was sidelined and other players pushed ahead it's football politics. He is now in Charlton watch what happens in the next few months.

You can be in a lower league and stand out or just get lost. It's actually very difficult to play technically proficient football in a predominantly blood and guts, kick and rush league. But when you do you know it's a quality player you are seeing. It's easy to look good when you have top quality players around you.

Finally, Fred Onyedinma was born in Nigeria and played in the same local team as Iwobi. If he had chosen Arsenal maybe his development would have been different.

oloriooko:
Am so pissed about this Tammy saga, so much talk and abuses from so many people
Please all you should let Tammy be!
If he chose to play for England, so be it!
If he turns back to choose Nigeria, so be it!
But enough of all the insults on the young man
He has the full right to make his choice of country to play for

TheGoodJoe:
Awo and Chidi play different roles and the requirements in terms of personnel is different. We are yet to call Dessers. Finito.

jotey:
Shola ameobi did not play any match for England

jotey:
You are calling him grandpapa but you want Martins

komekn:
Dele Alli left league 1, MK Dons straight to the premiership at only 19 and with top speed to the England senior team. Gomez at Liverpool left Charlton Athletic (league 1) straight to Liverpool first team at age 18, Ademola Lookman left Charlton Athletic straight to Everton first team. Calvert Lewin left Sheffield United straight too Everton first team. Why because they were outstanding players in those leagues. I could go on and on.

Fred Onyedinma at the tender age of 17 was awarded MOTM in the championship with Millwall. At this stage Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Man U, were all trying to sign him. His agents and Millwall messed up the transfer. Otherwise he would be in the EPL and his development would have taken a different trajectory. He currently is in the Championship with Millwall rejecting moves to other EPL clubs in favour of staying. See below links to substantiate my claims as not just my opinion.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/tottenham-vs-millwall-fred-onyedinma-on-being-back-of-neil-harris-new-local-generation-a7621936.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/watford-eyeing-move-millwall-winger-9720002

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/309464/Arsenal-to-fight-off-Manchester-City-and-Liverpool-for-Millwall-starlet-Fred-Onyedinma

I never ever reduced the standard but when a player proves his pedigree. As we say when small pikin wash hand, he go follow king chop.

When Tega had his first few weeks in the championship if we had invited him to the SE. Would we be having all this talk about him insulting Nigeria. We jumped on the bandwagon after he had blown up.

It's obvious you haven't watched Fred Onyedinma play. Watch his game in the FA cup against Tottenham and you go change mind.

I will talk of a Ghanaian origin player Tariq Ofosu, watched him as a teenager when Hope Akpan was at Reading Fc in the EPL then. I immediately pencilled him as outstanding quality. Unfortunately he was sidelined and other players pushed ahead it's football politics. He is now in Charlton watch what happens in the next few months.

You can be in a lower league and stand out or just get lost. It's actually very difficult to play technically proficient football in a predominantly blood and guts, kick and rush league. But when you do you know it's a quality player you are seeing. It's easy to look good when you have top quality players around you.

Finally, Fred Onyedinma was born in Nigeria and played in the same local team as Iwobi. If he had chosen Arsenal maybe his development would have been different.

Joebie:
SEE WHY I DIDN'T TRUST THE TIMES' REPORT.

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Tammy Abraham Reveals How He Found Out He Was Named In England Squad
Published: November 03, 2017

Tammy Abraham Reveals How He Found Out He Was Named In England SquadTammy Abraham has revealed how he found out he was named in the latest England squad and has suggested that Three Lions boss Gareth Southgate did not inform him of a potential call-up before it was announced on Thursday afternoon.

The 20-year-old, who remains on the radar of the Nigeria Football Federation until he's cap-tied, became the second player in the history of Swansea City to earn a call-up to England seniors, following in the footsteps of Jonjo Shelvey.

''I am very pleased. I have been working for this and I am grateful to be given the chance to prove myself. It is a good confidence boost for me and shows I have been doing the right thing,'' said Abraham to Swansea City's official website on Thursday evening.

''I found out this afternoon that I was in the squad. It was a nice surprise.''

The Chelsea loanee added : ''I was in the physio room and it came up on the TV that I had been included.

''All the boys congratulated me. It was a good feeling and I am excited to link up with the team.

''Getting an England call is a nice achievement. Now I have to make sure I grab it with both hands.''

Since arriving in South Wales in the summer of 2017, Abraham has registered his name on the score-sheet five times from 13 appearances.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

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Kog45:
If i can understand you very well you believe one section in this country were being treated unjustly when it comes to invitation to the national team.I just guess,so am not tagging you a tribal guy because you are expressing your view.

I don't think there is anything like that and if you want to look it at critically,truly invitations to national team should be based on merits but sometimes we see a player in the team that warrant question,my man it happens and only coach can explain.

Good you mentioned Gbenga Okunowo case when he was doing well at Barcelona meaning you want us to go to memory lane to discuss this issue.I can tell you a lot of players that find themselves in such situations in national team, some find their way forcefully some couldn't get invitations.

1.I believe you remember Richard Owubokiri, this was a player that paint Europe with goals,highest goalscorer in the whole in the whole Europe but find it difficult to get invitation. He was forced on Westerhoff against South Africa and in that match he had a goal.This great player was substituted and never get a call up again.

2.Mike Obiku was a very good player doing it well with Feyenord in dutch league scoring goals but couldn't make it to the national team,his exploit in dutch league can only be rival by Finidi George but this guy was not given chance,may be few caps.

3.Chris Ohenhen was one of the greatest Nigeria striker in LA liga history scoring goals for compostella every season but find it difficult to get invitation made just few appearances for Eagles, the rest is history.

4.Godwin Opara was a very good CB playing in French league for Strasbourg later PSG but did you know Godwin forced his way into the team prior to France 98 after being denied the opportunity for so long with Nigeria preferred using average CB like Uche Okafor,Isaac Semitoje.

5.Karibe Ojigwe was a perfect DM/CM having a good time then with Karlsruhe later Bayern Leverkusen but did you know what,this guy was denied invitation despite doing well but a very average player like Garba Lawal was getting invitation with coaches telling us he was playing to instructions.

6.James Obiorah was a mercurial player,marvellous to watch,very skillful and highly rated youngster who was denied invitation when it matter most.This guy saved Nigeria qualifications to Atlanta 96 with stunning free kick just two minutes to the end of that particular match i can't really recollect the match.

Did you know Obiorah was forced to be invited for that match but after the match no invitation again until a Jamaica match prior to France 98,he put on a superlative performance but was dropped. It was this frustration that forced him to make a confession prior to 2002 W/C that national team coaches are collecting bribes, he came into the team and displaced Wilson Oruma.

7.Benjamin Nzeakor a very good winger in his days but couldn't get the call when necessary one of the very few Nigerians to play in Brazilian league.

8.Uwem Ekarika good winger in his days but couldn't smell national team like others who are not better than him,very few caps.

9.James Etokebe a good winger who was doing well but not giving much chance in eagles to impress.

10.Kalu Uche the senior bro of Ike Uche find it so hard to break into Eagles,though he later did but that was at the later end of his career.A lot don't know that Kalu was the best player at COJA but was denied invitation despite doing well every season in Europe until he find his way and appeared at 2010W/C scoring two goals.

11.Ajibade Babalade had a great appearance at Senegal 92 paring Keshi at the CB better than Uche Okafor but after Afcon he find it difficult to get into the team .

12.Chidi Nwanu was doing well in Europe and was the best Nigeria CB playing for Anderlecht but Westerhoff denied him invitation preferring even player like Isaac Semitoje,he gatecrashed into US 94 when it was obvious that his presence was needed in the team.

Honestly we have a lot of them and is not based on where you come from,it happens and only coach can gives reasons because sometimes is a puzzle for fans seeing certain player doing well and not getting invitation.

komekn:
I would disagree with you completely.

The old age of Methusela did not contend with the wisdom of Solomon. Knowledge does not rest with one individual.

That's your view, shocked, it's very sad that kind of inferior low self esteem colonial mentality, Oyibo knows best. Wow !!! truly astonished didn't think that kind if mentality still existed.

I really can not say much more, just dissapointed, I really expected a lot more depth and a substantive response from a senior like you.

I concede defeat.

forgiveness:
Oh! It is no longer about helping a struggling brother in low level league due to circumstances!? Who no know say na work permit dem wan make am get.

forgiveness:
Martins is grandfafa but he is still active and better than Shola

Kog45:
If i can understand you very well you believe one section in this country were being treated unjustly when it comes to invitation to the national team.I just guess,so am not tagging you a tribal guy because you are expressing your view.

I don't think there is anything like that and if you want to look it at critically,truly invitations to national team should be based on merits but sometimes we see a player in the team that warrant question,my man it happens and only coach can explain.

Good you mentioned Gbenga Okunowo case when he was doing well at Barcelona meaning you want us to go to memory lane to discuss this issue.I can tell you a lot of players that find themselves in such situations in national team, some find their way forcefully some couldn't get invitations.

1.I believe you remember Richard Owubokiri, this was a player that paint Europe with goals,highest goalscorer in the whole in the whole Europe but find it difficult to get invitation. He was forced on Westerhoff against South Africa and in that match he had a goal.This great player was substituted and never get a call up again.

2.Mike Obiku was a very good player doing it well with Feyenord in dutch league scoring goals but couldn't make it to the national team,his exploit in dutch league can only be rival by Finidi George but this guy was not given chance,may be few caps.

3.Chris Ohenhen was one of the greatest Nigeria striker in LA liga history scoring goals for compostella every season but find it difficult to get invitation made just few appearances for Eagles, the rest is history.

4.Godwin Opara was a very good CB playing in French league for Strasbourg later PSG but did you know Godwin forced his way into the team prior to France 98 after being denied the opportunity for so long with Nigeria preferred using average CB like Uche Okafor,Isaac Semitoje.

5.Karibe Ojigwe was a perfect DM/CM having a good time then with Karlsruhe later Bayern Leverkusen but did you know what,this guy was denied invitation despite doing well but a very average player like Garba Lawal was getting invitation with coaches telling us he was playing to instructions.

6.James Obiorah was a mercurial player,marvellous to watch,very skillful and highly rated youngster who was denied invitation when it matter most.This guy saved Nigeria qualifications to Atlanta 96 with stunning free kick just two minutes to the end of that particular match i can't really recollect the match.

Did you know Obiorah was forced to be invited for that match but after the match no invitation again until a Jamaica match prior to France 98,he put on a superlative performance but was dropped. It was this frustration that forced him to make a confession prior to 2002 W/C that national team coaches are collecting bribes, he came into the team and displaced Wilson Oruma.

7.Benjamin Nzeakor a very good winger in his days but couldn't get the call when necessary one of the very few Nigerians to play in Brazilian league.

8.Uwem Ekarika good winger in his days but couldn't smell national team like others who are not better than him,very few caps.

9.James Etokebe a good winger who was doing well but not giving much chance in eagles to impress.

10.Kalu Uche the senior bro of Ike Uche find it so hard to break into Eagles,though he later did but that was at the later end of his career.A lot don't know that Kalu was the best player at COJA but was denied invitation despite doing well every season in Europe until he find his way and appeared at 2010W/C scoring two goals.

11.Ajibade Babalade had a great appearance at Senegal 92 paring Keshi at the CB better than Uche Okafor but after Afcon he find it difficult to get into the team .

12.Chidi Nwanu was doing well in Europe and was the best Nigeria CB playing for Anderlecht but Westerhoff denied him invitation preferring even player like Isaac Semitoje,he gatecrashed into US 94 when it was obvious that his presence was needed in the team.

Honestly we have a lot of them and is not based on where you come from,it happens and only coach can gives reasons because sometimes is a puzzle for fans seeing certain player doing well and not getting invitation.

tbaba1234:
Egyptian WC Jersey leaked

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNp6VQJW4AAiGV9.jpg

safarigirl:
this is irrelevant to the entire point.

Whether he found out via the news on TV or a WhatsApp broadcast message, he is still going to play for England

kingphilip:
''I am very pleased. I have been working for this and I am grateful to be given the chance to prove myself. It is a good confidence boost for me and shows I have been doing the right thing,'' said Abraham to Swansea City's official website on Thursday evening.




so his heart was never with us after all

tbaba1234:
Good list but our team was so loaded in some cases that it was difficult for some of these players.

Chris Ohenhen for instance was scoring a lot of goals for compostela in La liga but we had already a pretty full squad.

Godwin Opara could not really replicate the Strabourg form for Nigeria.

Ojigwe, one of the most unlucky, i believe he deserved a slot but on the bench.

TheGoodJoe:
I hope the abuse of Tammy reduces. He wants to play for England. That is where his heart is. I wish him the best and I hope others do. This is a time to turn our spot light on those who want to play for us and not spend time abusing Tammy.

kingphilip:
and Shola wasn't active when he went to the world cup right

Joebie:
And if e no work out for Tammy with England he should feel free to fallback. No hard feelings.

TheGoodJoe:

I think if Tammy is ready to play for us and his heart is there, he deserves his chance but low in pecking order. Those who are more devoted deserves the first pick. No hard feelings. He made his choice but I am against abusing.

goldfish80:
Well, the anchor point of my epistle is for the Nff to really dig deep and fashion out a way to harness and develop talents back home.
The little effort we have put out in the past like Principal cup, Greater tommorow and others have helped in no small measure to establish us as a force in African football.

Nff needs to establish atleast 5 world class soccer academies across the country. Something modelled after the Clairfontain football academy in France. If we can pull this off and also have a highly successful league which absorbs these players like they do have in Brazil then we will be cooking with gas!

I read pages he back where you constantly disbelieved every quote about Tammy declaring for Ingurland. Well, you have to embrace reality. Tammy ain't coming

Joebie:
e dey pain u too?

TheGoodJoe:
Who is talking about helping. Stop taking the point out of context. It I about discovering the best in each role and Chidi Nwakali has promise. It is a nice step for the coach to look in. If he is good and of top quality, that is when you use the National team to push him.

Not every Tom, Dick and Harry.

forgiveness:
From what I deduced from this is that few individuals have personal interest in the super eagles and at the same time there is personal vendetta against some set of players by these few individuals which as result, is at the detriment of National interest.

Can you please explain what played out against these set of players that didn't get invitation to the national team as at that moments they played for bigger clubs or in a better league?

Why was Gbenga Okunowo never invited to the national team during his time at Barcelona despite been part of the team that won the league that year?

Why was Lukeman Haruna ignored for two sessons during his time at Monaco? We know he was called for a friendly which he only played for 12 minutes. The world cup he went to was due to the injury mikel substained else he for no smell am(arrange thing). Why was he still ignored after the world cup despite helping Monaco to get to the final of Coupe de france? Why was he ignored despite playing regular with a top club like Dynamo Kyve that was regular in champions league and Europa league for 3 good seasons?


Why was Some aluko never invited when he was obviously the best player for Rangers in the Scottish League? With all his exploit he has not been capped for more than 5 times.


Time will not permit me to to mention all the players they allowed to fizzle out for players like Chidiebere Nwakali.

Please kindly explain. Thanks

safarigirl:
this is irrelevant to the entire point.

Whether he found out via the news on TV or a WhatsApp broadcast message, he is still going to play for England

tbaba1234:
Good list but our team was so loaded in some cases that it was difficult for some of these players.

Chris Ohenhen for instance was scoring a lot of goals for compostela in La liga but we had already a pretty full squad.

Godwin Opara could not really replicate the Strabourg form for Nigeria.

Ojigwe, one of the most unlucky, i believe he deserved a slot but on the bench.

Dedebanky85:
To plain abeg. Adidas can do better. See what Puma gave Cameroon thats not going to WC. Very nice! From Africa, CMR and Mali always have Gucci designer type jerseys. Hope Nike gives Naija better outfit

safarigirl:
i was never a Team Tammy. Wetin dey pain me na the airtime you people are bent on giving this boy.