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Akin1212:
From your link, you must have skipped this. Although, the writer only provided his own opinion, this is noteworthy.


Intuition is fallible. Intuition attempts to make short-term predictions in Bizarre Domains. This is a best-effort process. Intuition can often make useful predictions in spite of ambiguous, incomplete, or misleading information in constantly changing chaotic environments.

Even extremely simple-minded agents can benefit from Intuition. If the best you can do is to try and try again, and if you do not track what you have done, then there is nothing from preventing you from repeatedly trying one and the same failing thing. Even a single bit of memory might allow you to discover the winner when given an alternative that works and one that fails. I plan to add a so far unpublished paper named "Primitive Problem Solving" on this topic to this site at some date.
Since Logic requires a good high-level theory, and in general also insists on correctness, it is incapable of making any predictions at all.


I asked you earlier if intuition can be wrong and right, due to your dribbling you avoided the question, here it is, you brought the link.

When it comes to addressing sensitive issues like the existence of God, you don't intuition, a fallible concept. Fallible means imperfect.
All you need to be correct is LOGIC because it insists on correctness. I'm done with you, since you finally brought the link that finished everything

If you don't agree, it's your cup of tea.

I guess you were conveniently blind to the fact that logic never works where information is not complete. Baba use your 5 senses to reason before concluding...

There is a knowledge gap in Logic and Intuition can adequately fill for...and vice versa. Find the equilibrium and advance with your life.

For someone like you. Anything outside of Science is totally wrong...until Science proves it right abi? So Science has all the answers to life's questions?

Can Science understand the mechanics behind Human and other mammal's instincts?

Now that I have confirmed I am dealing with atheists that leans more on logic than intuition, it makes sense to understand why they cannot use arithmetical examples to help guide them in solving more advanced problems and questions.

If you can point out how life exists on a lower level without a creator, then use that to demonstrate how the Universe materialized out of thin air...

Am I asking too much from the school of LOGIC?


You guys need things to be defined in black and white before you understand abi?

OkaiCorne:
I guess you were conveniently blind to the fact that logic never works where information is not complete. Baba use your 5 senses to reason before concluding...

There is a knowledge gap in Logic and Intuition can adequately fill for...and vice versa. Find the equilibrium and advance with your life.

And who are you to tell someone that his information is not complete? Does that change the fact that intuition is fallible? Or is it intuition that completes information? Look, just accept the fact for once, you brought the link here, I didn't.

Akin1212:
And who are you to tell someone that his information is not complete? Does that change the fact that intuition is fallible? Or is it intuition that completes information? Look, just accept the fact for once, you brought the link here, I didn't.

Can Logic hold water in the face of incomplete information?

That something is beyond your level of reasoning does it make it wrong or does it mean it does not exist?

When I keep saying INTUITION + LOGIC = INSIGHT...it seems you do not understand this basic equation? Sixth sense is not scientific therefore it does not hold water abi? I am coming with more links for you to argue with na...we just dey start

So many times instinctive knowledge(intuition) have been wrong. You will think you know something but you actually don't. But logic is always correct. You can fill this gap between knowing and not knowing with intuition.

Akin1212:
So many times instinctive knowledge(intuition) have been wrong. You will think you know something but you actually don't. But logic is always correct. You can fill this gap between knowing and not knowing with intuition.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/what-is-logical-is-not-always-true.html

Come and argue with these psychologists that states logic is not always right.

I will post more details for you to read.

What Is Logical Isn’t Always True
In logic, an argument can be invalid even if its conclusion is true, and an argument can be valid even if its conclusion is false. It’s a confusing concept, and people are easily fooled when an argument’s validity and believability don’t match up, especially in the case of invalid arguments with conclusions that are believable. Psychological scientists call this phenomenon belief bias.

Please come and tell us that these physcologists know nothing about Science na...

OkaiCorne:
Can Logic hold water in the face of incomplete information?

That something is beyond your level of reasoning does it make it wrong or does it mean it does not exist?

Yes, good point. If something is beyond your reasoning, then your information is incomplete. Just like your eternal creator which is beyond your reasoning as you have claimed. So, you don't have the logic to back it up.

Again, if you use instincts or intuition which is fallible. There is a 50% chance that you are wrong and a 50% chance that you are correct. This means uncertainty. This is all we have been trying to hammer into your skull since morning. You cannot say there is a God because you are not sure. This is agnosticism, also remember I told you earlier that this is where you stand. Now, who's winning?

You brought the link that ended everything. Thank you.

Frank317, abeg come brother don expose himself.

OkaiCorne:
https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/what-is-logical-is-not-always-true.html

Come and argue with these psychologists that states logic is not always right.

I will post more details for you to read.

Lol, you have started looking for more links? Lol, just go and take a nap, you need it.

Akin1212:
Yes, good point. If something is beyond your reasoning, then your information is incomplete. Just like your eternal creator which is beyond your reasoning as you have claimed. So, you don't have the logic to back it up.

Again, if you use instincts or intuition which is fallible. There is a 50% chance that you are wrong and a 50% chance that you are correct. This means uncertainty. This is all we have been trying to hammer into your skull since morning. You cannot say there is a God because you are not sure. This is agnosticism, also remember I told you earlier that this is where you stand. Now, who's winning?

You brought the link that ended everything. Thank you.

Frank317, abeg come brother don expose himself.

And Intuition must complement logic so you can use common sense to Understand. I can see you are the weakling that needs help now.

Akin1212:
Lol, you have started looking for more links? Lol, just go and take a nap, you need it.

Please come and tell me that these psychologists don't know Science and are talking thrash na

OkaiCorne:
And Intuition must complement logic so you can use common sense to Understand. I can see you are the weakling that needs help now.

You cannot back logic up with intuition, you are going wrong again. What intuition can do for you here is solidify your logic. But your logic must be correct first. Intuition cannot back up a wrong logic. Is the English too hard for you to understand? Logic insists on correctness, if it's not correct then it's not logic. When your logic is correct, then you will know the 50% of your intuition that is right is true.

Today, I have encountered a caveman atheist who said intuition is not scientific...yet he has not heard of a Nobel Prize winning Scientist Daniel Kahneman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman

I guess Akin1212 knows more than a Nobel Prize winning scientist that Intuition is not Scientific.

In addition please digest this link on intuition of you think it is not scientific;
https://www.livescience.com/54825-scientists-measure-intuition.html

Come and argue that these people are not Scientists too or Science doesn't support Intuition

Akin1212:
You cannot back logic up with intuition, you are going wrong again. What intuition can do for you here is solidify your logic. But your logic must be correct first. Intuition cannot back up a wrong logic. Is the English too hard for you to understand? Logic insists on correctness, if it's not correct then it's not logic. When your logic is correct, then you will know the 50% of your intuition that is right is true.

Today, I have encountered a caveman atheist who said intuition is not scientific...yet he has not heard of a Nobel Prize winning Scientist Daniel Kahneman who made a revolutionary breakthrough on understanding intuition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman

I guess Akin1212 knows more than a Nobel Prize winning scientist that Intuition is not Scientific.

In addition please digest this link on intuition of you think it is not scientific;
https://www.livescience.com/54825-scientists-measure-intuition.html

Come and argue that these people are not Scientists too or Science doesn't support Intuition

OkaiCorne:
Please come and tell me that these psychologists don't know Science and are talking thrash na

You are the one who is talking trash. Please read this because I noticed you don't read before you respond.

As it is you don't have logic about your eternal creator because your information about it is not complete. So it's zero logic.

Your intuition which is fallible is divided into he may exist and he may not.

It's only when your information about it is complete and your logic is 100% that you can now know the part of the intuition that is correct.

We all had the intuition that god may exist and he may not at one point in time, some people stick there and they are called agnostics. Some of us go ahead and strengthen our logic to be 100% through science and now that our logic is correct, we know the part of our intuition that is correct.

Akin1212:
You are the one who is talking trash. Please read this because I noticed you don't read before you respond.

As it is you don't have logic about your eternal creator because your information about it is not complete. So it's zero logic.

Your intuition which is fallible is divided into he may exist and he may not.

It's only when your information about it is complete and your logic is 100% that you can now know the part of the intuition that is correct.

We all had the intuition that god may exist and he may not at one point in time, some people stick there and they are called agnostics. Some of us go ahead and strengthen our logic to be 100% through science and now that our logic is correct, we know the part of our intuition that is correct.

I have given you countless logical examples at the basic level, just tell us why this cannot apply at the advanced level...

Wait a minute...because it is not Scientific? or because you now know more than a Nobel Prize winning scientist?

YOU CANNOT RELY ALONE ON LOGIC TO UNDERSTAND CERTAIN THINGS BEYOND YOUR FIVE SENSES. if you choose to be blind..then remain blind

OkaiCorne:
Today, I have encountered a caveman atheist who said intuition is not scientific...yet he has not heard of a Nobel Prize winning Scientist Daniel Kahneman who made a revolutionary breakthrough on understanding intuition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman

I guess Akin1212 knows more than a Nobel Prize winning scientist that Intuition is not Scientific.

In addition please digest this link on intuition of you think it is not scientific;
https://www.livescience.com/54825-scientists-measure-intuition.html

Come and argue that these people are not Scientists too or Science doesn't support Intuition

We are not talking about scientists who won Nobel prize, we are talking about intuition as regarding the existence of a creator that can be seen and here is another excerpts from the link you yourself brought to us.

Intuition is what we use to handle everyday problems such as predicting limb positions and controlling muscle movement, to understand and generate speech, to read, to analyze what we see, to drive a car, etc. In short, all the things we do that we take for granted and which we do "without thinking". Many of these are non-trivial and hard or impossible to do using current computer technology.

They simply said intuition is what we use to do the things we do without thinking... Do you want to discover God without thinking?

Akin1212:
Yes, good point. If something is beyond your reasoning, then your information is incomplete. Just like your eternal creator which is beyond your reasoning as you have claimed. So, you don't have the logic to back it up.

Again, if you use instincts or intuition which is fallible. T[b]here is a 50% chance that you are wrong and a 50% chance that you are correct. This means uncertainty. This is all we have been trying to hammer into your skull since morning.[/b] You cannot say there is a God because you are not sure. This is agnosticism, also remember I told you earlier that this is where you stand. Now, who's winning?

You brought the link that ended everything. Thank you.

Frank317, abeg come brother don expose himself.

I do not need to prove the Existence of an Eternal Creator that has been so helpful to me. I do not need to argue with you. Only results will shut your mouth.

Akin1212:
We are not talking about scientists who won Nobel prize, we are talking about intuition as regarding the existence of a creator that can be seen and here is another excerpts from the link you yourself brought to us.

Intuition is what we use to handle everyday problems such as predicting limb positions and controlling muscle movement, to understand and generate speech, to read, to analyze what we see, to drive a car, etc. In short, all the things we do that we take for granted and which we do "without thinking". Many of these are non-trivial and hard or impossible to do using current computer technology.

They simply said intuition is what we use to do the things we do without thinking... Do you want to discover God without thinking?

And that brings me back to this equation INTUITION+LOGIC=INSIGHT. You cannot discover God by relying on Intuition alone...Logic gives Intuition shape... wake up bros!

That is why I can give you countless logical explanations at the basic level...can you give me a basic example of life appearing out of nowhere on planet earth?

OkaiCorne:
I have given you countless logical examples at the basic level, just tell us why this cannot apply at the advanced level...

Wait a minute...because it is not Scientific? or because you now know more than a Nobel Prize winning scientist?

YOU CANNOT RELY ALONE ON LOGIC TO UNDERSTAND CERTAIN THINGS BEYOND YOUR FIVE SENSES. if you choose to be blind..then remain blind

Yes, you have given countless unrelated logical examples because you don't have the logic. Your examples are illogical, your logic about your God is zero. You have been ranting based on intuition.

And I told you that there is no sixth sense in science. It is categorized as pseudoscience. Psychology is not science and psychologists only explain intuition. Do you want links? In fact, take one.

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/What_is_the_sixth_sense%3F

The expression "sixth sense" is a misnomer that falsely suggests that there is only one additional sense besides the traditional five senses of sight, hearing, touch, smell, and taste, a classification attributed to Aristotle.[2] Humans have at least five additional senses that include: nociception (pain); equilibrioception (balance); proprioception and kinaesthesia (joint motion and acceleration); sense of time; thermoception (temperature differences); and possibly an additional weak magnetoception (direction).[3]

Go and educate yourself in science, you need it.

OkaiCorne:
I do not need to prove the Existence of an Eternal Creator that has been so helpful to me. I do not need to argue with you. Only results will shut your mouth.

You are only lucky mother nature smiles on you, it smiles on other people too. There are people who tell your eternal creator to fuck_ off everyday and they are more successful than your whole household. So what are you saying?

Akin1212:
Yes, you have given countless unrelated logical examples because you don't have the logic. Your examples are illogical, your logic about your God is zero. You have been ranting based on intuition.

And I told you that there is no sixth sense in science. It is categorized as pseudoscience. Psychology is not science and psychologists only explain intuition. Do you want links? In fact, take one.

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/What_is_the_sixth_sense%3F

The expression "sixth sense" is a misnomer that falsely suggests that there is only one additional sense besides the traditional five senses of sight, hearing, touch, smell, and taste, a classification attributed to Aristotle.[2] Humans have at least five additional senses that include: nociception (pain); equilibrioception (balance); proprioception and kinaesthesia (joint motion and acceleration); sense of time; thermoception (temperature differences); and possibly an additional weak magnetoception (direction).[3]

Go and educate yourself in science, you need it.

Did any Scientist win a Nobel peace with this point of view? I need results...not noise. One point of view has results to show for it...the other has nothing (yet).

OkaiCorne:
And that brings me back to this equation INTUITION+LOGIC=INSIGHT. You cannot discover God by relying on Intuition alone...Logic gives Intuition shape... wake up bros!

That is why I can give you countless logical explanations at the basic level...can you give me a basic example of life appearing out of nowhere on planet earth?

But you don't have logic because your information is incomplete. Or do you think we have half logic? Logic is whole, and once is not 100%, then it's zero. You cannot add intuition to make it whole. Get that straight.

Akin1212:
You are only lucky mother nature smiles on you, it smiles on other people too. T[b]here are people who tell your eternal creator to fuck_ off everyday[/b] and they are more successful than your whole household. So what are you saying?

Same way some of your relatives are eager to tell your parents to 4k off...too bad...such is life.

So you still believe Science and Logic holds the answer to everything abi?

Please use your knowledge of Science and Logic to educate us on how it is possible for any life form to appear from nowhere without a Creator

OkaiCorne:
Did any Scientist win a Nobel peace with this point of view? I need results...not noise. One point of view has results to show for it...the other has nothing (yet).

Oga, go and sit down. The 6th sense is a misnomer in science. Add that to the list of the things you have learned from me. It is not an accepted concept in science worldwide. Now, I am giving you link, abi you want to go and argue with Google and the scientist who wrote that?

OkaiCorne:
Same way some of your relatives are eager to tell your parents to 4k off...too bad...such is life.

So you still believe Science and Logic holds the answer to everything abi?

Please use your knowledge of Science and Logic to educate us on how it is possible for any life form to appear from nowhere without a Creator

You don't have the rights to ask me any question until you answer my questions, it's going to be 48 hours since I have asked. Answer the question and I will answer all your questions. Who created the planes of existence and for what purpose? Who disrupted earth's plane of existence and how?

Do you have parents? I guess they are dead. And if they are alive, I guess you don't cherish them.
How dare you mention my parents again? I ignored the first time and now you're doing oit again. If it will come to that, I suggest you fuck_ off this topic then.

Akin1212:
Oga, go and sit down. The 6th sense is a misnomer in science. Add that to the list of the things you have learned from me. It is not an accepted concept in science worldwide. Now, I am giving you link, abi you want to go and argue with Google and the scientist who wrote that?

Can you remind me again the total number of people that believes in a Supernatural being and those that don't?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

If there are Satanists and Occultists why can't there be an Eternal Creator of all of these?

I guess Spirits are also not scientific Near Death Experiences are also not Scientific

I am amazed at your wisdom sir

Akin1212:
You don't have the rights to ask me any question until you answer my questions, it's going to be 48 hours since I have asked. Answer the question and I will answer all your questions. Who created the planes of existence and for what purpose? Who disrupted earth's plane of existence and how?

Do you have parents? I guess they are dead. And if they are alive, I guess you don't cherish them.
How dare you mention my parents again? I ignored the first time and now you're doing oit again. If it will come to that, I suggest you fuck_ off this topic then.

I can't give you advanced answers when you are still can't see how the basics fits into the picture.

If you truly have Parents... then you will understand via common sense that atheism doesn't add up

I had to touch that nerve so you feel how people who believes in a Supernatural Being/Creator feels when you want to ridicule their beliefs.

Too bad...I have no apologies for you... Now throw me another tantrum.

OkaiCorne:
Can you remind me again the total number of people that believes in a Supernatural being and those that don't?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

If there are Satanists and Occultists why can't there be an Eternal Creator of all of these?

I guess Spirits are also not scientific Near Death Experiences are also not Scientific

I am amazed at your wisdom sir

Don't divert from the main topic, you're fond of that. Your logic is zero and your intuition is fallible. So you know nothing of any creator. You are just dumbfounded by nature.

Akin1212:
Don't divert from the main topic, you're fond of that. Your logic is zero and your intuition is fallible. So you know nothing of any creator. You are just dumbfounded by nature.

But everyone on Nairaland knows that you that has 100% logic and with perfect knowledge of Science.

You are yet to show us one basic example of how life can exist on earth without a Creator

We are eager to tap into your infinite Scientific wisdom sir

OkaiCorne:
I can't give you advanced answers when you are still can't see how the basics fits into the picture.

If you truly have Parents... then you will understand via common sense that atheism doesn't add up

I had to touch that nerve so you feel how people who believes in a Supernatural Being/Creator feels when you want to ridicule their beliefs.

Too bad...I have no apologies for you... Now throw me another tantrum.

You must think atheism is about following people and doing what they do?

Is the bolded an attack to you? Lol, My parents don't even know you exist and whatever you say doesn't touch them where they are.

I just thought you might be reasonable since you delusively believe in a creator. Your attitude attacking my parents is typical of a miscreant. And really, it shows what your delusions have done in your life. Shove your apology up your ass, it doesn't change anything. It just says more about someone who has a creator, LMAO.
You can say whatever you like to my parents, it falls on your parents too.

But still, fuck_ your eternal creator

OkaiCorne:
Kindly quote where I mentioned logic is totally irrelevant. Kindly read my last four posts and add something to your knowledge bank ...instead of arguing fruitlessly.

U said intution comes when logic fails and went ahead to talk about 6th sense and stuff. I can quote i if u want. U even went ahead to say we only know how to use our five senses which implies logic, his this baxk and forth which is aimed at showing u the importance of logic and how imagination and intuition as solely dependent on logic to make sense.

[quote ]If you rely much on Logic...Artificial Intelligence will render you redundant...Only Imaginative, Creative and Intuitive people are beyond the threat of AI.[/quote]Pls dont derail the thread with beautiful nonsense and explain how this intuition has helped u understand things about the creator.

According to your line of reasoning, I guess talented footballers use only logic to achieve their goals.

Yes.. without logic creativity is useless. Ur five sense have to be sharp and on point foe u to be a better footballer. Logic converts ur creative imagination to reality and makes senses of it.

Edison had to first imagine (mentally picture) what he had to apply logic on to birth - a bulb. A healthy blend of logic and intuition is needed to get the best out of life.

Well my aim is to show how important the use of logic and five sense is over imagination. I have done that... if u think its not give me a reason why u think so.
I also intend to make u stop saying that where logic fails intuition takes over...i just want u to understand that inguition is uselsess without logic.

If you don't agree...argue with the authors of the articles I pasted here.

INTUITION + LOGIC = INSIGHT; if you don't agree others with abundance of common sense here agrees...

Agree with what? U seem to be lost in the argument

OkaiCorne:
But everyone on Nairaland knows that you that has 100% logic and with perfect knowledge of Science.

You are yet to show us one basic example of how life can exist on earth without a Creator

We are eager to tap into your infinite Scientific wisdom sir

Don't embarrass yourself more, people who know you might be reading. You don't know science, you don't have logic, your intuition is on the wrong side, you don't know what you talk about, you don't know shit about planes of existence, you don't know shit_ about parallel universe fiction. You have just been blabbing.

You probably thought you'd find a follower for your strange practices on this thread as babacele made you his apprentice?