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Richirich713:
I just said he was an atheist. Nowhere did I say atheism made him kill those people.

WHY did you make reference to his atheism? Or you just typed that RANDOMLY for no reason?

GoodMuyis:
Now we know those who are deluded. A sycophant just because he hate GOD decided to take his grievances to Innocent folks.

Now his fellow deluded Nairaland kinsmen see noting bad in it but to raise a praise offering to their ego so as to obtain indulgence. SHM

So a crazy guy that hates God went to take his grieviences on innocent folks and your God just sat down idle watching him as he went into his house of worship and killed his children.

Tell me what will make you allow a crazy person enter into your house and kill your children that are worshipping, praising and interacting with you if you had the ability to stop the person?

dalaman:
So a crazy guy that hates God went to take his grieviences on innocent folks and your God just sat down idle watching him as he went into his house of worship and killed his children.

Tell me what will make you allow a crazy person enter into your house and kill your children that are worshipping, praising and interacting with you if you had the ability to stop the person?

its funny how they want to take potshots at atheism but chose the wrong news for it lol, they're like the proverbial man that points an accusing finger at someone else not realising the remaining four are pointing back at the pointer, Its obvious they never thought this through

AlmiqhteeAllah:
You're suffering from the same mental illness as NightWisp. Maybe you really were that clown.

If atheism makes people dangerous, vampiric, cold-blooded homicidal maniacs, everyone in the churches and mosques in my vicinity would be long dead. Unlike, Joshua who slaughtered thousands, I've never caused anyone to bleed, let alone take another's life! So much for atheism making one bloodthirsty!

That guy is obviously mentally ill. An atheist can suffer from lunacy, the same way a Muslim, Christian, Sikh, Hindu, or Buddhist can go mad too.

Atheism is a mental illness and rightly so and approved by sciencewatch

hopefulLandlord:
its funny how they want to take potshots at atheism but chose the wrong news for it lol, they're like the proverbial man that points an accusing finger at someone else not realising the remaining four are pointing back at the pointer, Its obvious they never thought this through

My thoughts exactly.

dalaman:
So a crazy guy that hates God went to take his grieviences on innocent folks and your God just sat down idle watching him as he went into his house of worship and killed his children.

Tell me what will make you allow a crazy person enter into your house and kill your children that are worshipping, praising and interacting with you if you had the ability to stop the person?

Which of the answer do you like?

1=>Is God a murderer?
2=>You are happy that people died?

dalaman:
My condemnation will bring the people back to life or make your allegedly al powerful God that refused to protect his dedicated followers inside his house to act?

The guy that carried out the act is a crazy and stupid atheist. If I had the power or might I would have killed him long before he went close to that church despite the fact that am not a christian. If i knew he was going to carry out the massacre and I had the ability to stop him I would have done that by killing him because people like that doesn't deserve to live. But it seems your God had no problem with what he did since he allowed him to enter into his house of worship and kill many of his childrenunder his watch. Your God never fails to disappoint always.

I am still waiting to read your SOBER comments or condolences but as expected your response is typical of someone who wouldn't and doesn't give a half a fvck over this. Condolences or condemnation still proves we have a human side and still have human empathy but since you see absolutely no reason for it it speaks volumes of your current atheistic depth. No wonder you ha e been extremely vocal for atheism for the past 8 years on nairaland. Next phase is militant atheism.

butterflyl1on:
I am still waiting to read your SOBER comments or condolences but as expected your response is typical of someone who wouldn't and doesn't give a half a fvck over this. Condolences or condemnation still proves we have a human side and still have human empathy but since you see absolutely no reason for it it speaks volumes of your current atheistic depth. No wonder you ha e been extremely vocal for atheism for the past 8 years on nairaland. Next phase is militant atheism.

Shut up and drop your childish emotional black mail. It's dead on arrival and lame.

My question for you is to to tell me if you will allow a crazy atheist to come into your house and kill your children when they are worshipping, praising and interacting with you. The fact that you want to turn the topic to something else is very telling.

You lie when you say I have been extremely vocal for atheists for 8 years. I only became a full atheist like 4-5 years ago so find another lie.

GoodMuyis:
Which of the answer do you like?

1=>Is God a murderer?
2=>You are happy that people died?

None of the above.

Your God is imaginary and non existent that is why he always fails to protect his own.

dalaman:
Shut up and drop your childish emotional black mail. It's dead on arrival and lame.

My question is for you is to to tell me if you will allow a crazy atheist to come into your house and kill your children when they are worshipping, praising and interacting with you. The fact that you want to turn the topic to something else is very telling.

You lie when you say I have been extremely vocal for atheists for 8 years. I only became a full atheist like 4-5 years ago so find another lie.

Your further comments prove me right. Still no sober words from you condemning this crazy act by a fellow atheist.

Here is a news extract for you. I believe atheism preaches that they hate seeing kids suffer right?

The gunman who killed 26 people at a small-town Texas church went aisle to aisle looking for victims and shot crying babies at point-blank range, a couple who survived the attack said.

Here is another

For a moment, the attack seemed to stop, and worshippers thought that police had arrived to confront the gunman. But then he entered the church yelling "Everybody die!" and resumed "shooting hard" at helpless families, Solis said.

The gunman checked each aisle for more victims, including babies who cried out amid the noise and smoke, Ramirez said.

Yet another

Martin said investigators found hundreds of spent shell casings inside the church after the church, as well as 15 30-round ammunition magazines, all of them empty.

That's 450 bullets wasted on men, women AND CHILDREN. I guess he really went HARD FOR EVERYONE INCLUDING KIDS.

Attached are the bullet riddled church doors which held men, women and children whom your fellow atheist murdered in cold blood.

Enjoy your brand of atheism which sees no reason to condemn and sober up especially when it involves Christians being killed by a fellow atheist.

butterflyl1on:
Your further comments prove me right. Still no sober words from you condemning this crazy act by a fellow atheist.

Here is a news extract for you. I believe atheism preaches that they hate seeing kids suffer right?

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That's 450 bullets wasted on men, women AND CHILDREN. I guess he really went HARD FOR EVERYONE INCLUDING KIDS.

Attached are the bullet riddled church does which held men, women and children whom your fellow atheist murdered in cold blood.

Enjoy your brand of atheism which sees no reason to condemn and sober up especially when it involves Christians being killed by a fellow atheist.

And your all powerful and mighty God whom you guys always tell us is the epitome of protection that sat down and watched as a crazy atheist entered into his house and killed his children nko? It's obvious yiur God didn't see anything wrong with his actions else he would have stopped him.

You will never allow that to happen if you have the ability to stop it. Blame your God for failing to protect his own and stop getting all emotional on me with cheap and lame emotional black mail.

My condolences to the Victims families

Its only on Nairaland i see people debating if it was athiesm that motivated him whereas in US...
They are debating Gun laws and Mental health.

There are reports that he escaped mental Health facitlity and had issue of domestic abuse with his in laws...(His grandmother in law was a victim of the shooting)

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/07/us/texas-church-shooting/index.html

dalaman:
And your all powerful and mighty God whom you guys always tell us is the epitome of protection that sat down and watched as a crazy atheist entered into his house and killed his children nko? It's obvious yiur God didn't see anything wrong with his actions else he would have stopped him.

You will never allow that to happen if you have the ability to stop it. Blame your God for failing to protect his own and stop getting all emotional on me with cheap and lame emotional black mail.

We could go on with this for another 20yrs and as expected you would never see any reason why you should be sober and condemn an act as terrible as this carried out by a fellow atheist against Christians. Such a thought is obviously alien to you at this point as long as its 26 less Christians to deal with you are cool with that.

May your life be filled with atheistic bliss.

Parajoe:
My condolences to the Victims families

Its only on Nairaland i see people debating if it was athiesm that motivated him whereas in US...
They are debating Gun laws and Mental health.

There are reports that he escaped mental Health facitlity and had issue of domestic abuse with his in laws...(His grandmother in law was a victim of the shooting)

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/07/us/texas-church-shooting/index.html

Of course and somehow he did not know her home address to take her out all alone but chose to walk into the church and shout EVERYBODY DIE and not GO FOR HIS SPECIFIC TARGET.

I SUPPOSE EVERYBODY WAS HIS INLAW AND EVERYONE IN THE CHURCH DOMESTICALLY ABUSED HIM.

The church must have been the recommended therapy

butterflyl1on:
Of course and somehow he did not know her home address to take her out all alone but chose to walk into the church and shout EVERYBODY DIE and not GO FOR HIS SPECIFIC TARGET.

I SUPPOSE EVERYBODY WAS HIS INLAW AND EVERYONE IN THE CHURCH DOMESTICALLY ABUSED HIM.

The church must have been the recommended therapy

So you think Mentallyl ill patients are predictable?
Thats very funny of you...

The main issue is how he was able to purchase rifles after he has been discharged Dishourably by Air Force for Abusing his wife and his son (a toddler)...

butterflyl1on:
We could go on with this for another 20yrs and as expected you would never see any reason why you should be sober and condemn an act as terrible as this carried out by a fellow atheist against Christians. Such a thought is obviously alien to you at this point as long as its 26 less Christians to deal with you are cool with that.

May your life be filled with atheistic bliss.

More lame and cheap emotional lack mail that is dead on arrival.

Go and blame your God for failing to protect his children from a crazy atheist that attacked them inside his house of worship and stop looking for emotional support from me.If I had the ability to stop him I would have stopped him. But your God saw nothing wrong with his actions by allowing him to kill 26 of his children inside his house. Blame your God for failing to protect his own.

Parajoe:
So you think Mentallyl ill patients are predictable?
Thats very funny of you...

The main issue is how he was able to purchase rifles after he has been discharged Dishourably by Air Force for Abusing his wife and his son (a toddler)...

They are not predictable but he was predictable enough to put on TACTICAL GEAR first before driving up to the church, Shooting from outside first then move to the right of the church also shooting from outside, then walk in through the doors with guns blazing, then walking from aisle to aisle looking for survivors and shooting crying babies at point blank range, then jumping back into his truck and driving off after being shot by a civilian.

His own mental illness must be the calculating kind.

butterflyl1on:
Of course and somehow he did not know her home address to take her out all alone but chose to walk into the church and shout EVERYBODY DIE and not GO FOR HIS SPECIFIC TARGET.

I SUPPOSE EVERYBODY WAS HIS INLAW AND EVERYONE IN THE CHURCH DOMESTICALLY ABUSED HIM.

The church must have been the recommended therapy

Your alleged all powerful and protector God that failed to protect his own inside his house of worship nko? Obviously your God liked what happened and wanted it to happen for him to have allowed it, else he wouldn't have let it happened if he didn't like it and didn't want it to happen. Blame your God for failing to protect his own.

butterflyl1on:
They are not predictable but he was predictable enough to put on TACTICAL GEAR first before driving up to the church, Shooting from outside first then move to the right of the church also shooting from outside, then walk in through the doors with guns blazing, then walking from aisle to aisle looking for survivors and shooting crying babies at point blank range, then jumping back into his truck and driving off after being shot by a civilian.

His own mental illness must be the calculating kind.

Predictable here means "Why he did it"

Not " How he did it "

Its like asking why a Mad man on the street will sometimes chase you and sometimes offer you what they are eating...
They are not predictable..

Parajoe:
Predictable here means "Why he did it"

Not " How he did it "

Predictable here means why choose a church filled with people as against his alleged in-laws residence where a lone target would be sitting especially since same killer preached atheism online.

If he was a vegetarian who preached against killing of animals for food it would make sense to shoot up a butchers shop wouldn't you say so?

butterflyl1on:
Predictable here means why choose a church filled with people as against his alleged in-laws residence where a lone target would be sitting especially since same killer preached atheism online.

If he was a vegetarian who preached against killing of animals for food it would make sense to shoot up a butchers shop wouldn't you say so?

What would make sense is his motive:
Domestic abuse...

Since his is mentally ill therefore he lacks a normal Human's judgement...

Good you gave a vegeterian as an example...

So will a *Normal* vegeterian with (conscience and Empathy) Kill butchers because they dont buy his idea?

Parajoe:
What would make sense is his motive:
Domestic abuse...

Since his is mentally ill therefore he lacks a normal Human's judgement...

Good you gave a vegeterian as an example...

So will a *Normal* vegeterian with (conscience and Empathy) Kill butchers because they dont buy his idea?

Yes a passionate advocate for animal rights would do that.

We are not talking about motive for killing alone. But motive for CHOICE OF PLACE FOR KILLING AND KILLING especially since he preached atheism and called believers in God STUPID.

Meanwhile, what is your main moniker because I know this one is an alternate. For a 2016 registered moniker to only have 15 posts is a clear sign of this being an alternate.

How can this be considered to be the deadliest after 9/11 in America when few months ago, someone shot more than 70 poeple at a concert in this same US of A? Because it couldn't be linked to the religion America loves to blame for everything?

Amoze777:
America is seriously under attack from both enemy within and without. Barely days after an ISIS sympathizer mauled several people dead, an attack considered as the deadliest since the 9/11 attack, another man at the weekend entered a church and gunned down more than two dozen Christians, mostly children.

The 26-year-old is thought to have lived in New Braunfels, a city on the outskirts of San Antonio, about 35 miles from where the attack, described as the worst mass shooting in the state’s modern history by Texas Governor Greg Abbot, took place in Sutherland Springs.
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http://nationaldailyng.com/meet-the-anti-christ-who-killed-26-people-inside-a-church/[/url]

butterflyl1on:
Yes a passionate advocate for animal rights would do that.

We are not talking about motive for killing alone. But motive for CHOICE OF PLACE FOR KILLING AND KILLING especially since he preached atheism and called believers in God STUPID.

Meanwhile, what is your main moniker because I know this one is an alternate. For a 2016 registered moniker to only have 15 posts is a clear sign of this being an alternate.

You asking for his choice of site for killing is why he was unpredictable...
This is
Not an alternate moniker since you want story...
I have being a guest(spectator) here since 2014 till i became a Member in December last year...
I got bored few weeks later because i am not a social media type of person... Then i logged out my account to become a guest again two days ago when i saw a similar thread like this blamimg athiesm for the shooters act

Parajoe:
You asking for his choice of site for killing is why he was unpredictable...
This is
Not an alternate moniker since you want story...
I have being a guest(spectator) here since 2014 till i became a Member in December last year...
I got bored few weeks later because i am not a social media type of person... Then i logged out my account to become a guest again till last week when i saw a similar thread like this blamimg athiesm for the shooters act

You got bored when all your posts in January were all just 10 comments which were all monosyllables from you and only resurfaced on the 6th of November to try and paint over an atheist killer of Christians in a church.

butterflyl1on:
You got bored when all your posts in January were all just 10 comments which were all monosyllables from you and only resurfaced on the 6th of November to try and paint over an atheist killer of Christians in a church.

like i said before i dont like to comment,
I just like to observe...
You will notice most of my comments were emojis then because i dont like to comment.

I have posted proof that i just got a new password two days ago...
Which evidence do you need again?

Parajoe:
like i said before i dont like to comment,
I just like to observe...
You will notice most of my comments were emojis then because i dont like to comment.

I have posted proof that i just got a new password two days ago...
Which evidence do you need again?

I didn't ask you for any proof. You offered one. Anyway enjoy your new identity.

butterflyl1on:
I didn't ask you for any proof. You offered one. Anyway enjoy your new identity.

You are funny
You accused me
I gave you a proof...
Now you are saying that you didnt ask for it.

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butterflyl1on:
Atheism is a mental illness and rightly so and approved by sciencewatch

Thanks for your wisdom butterflyl1on, at pointing out the respectful need for condolences to the families that now suffer.

My deepest condolences to those that have lost loved ones. I am very sorry to hear of your tragic loss.
Please accept my heartfelt sympathies at the loss of your loved ones who were worshiping God.
Words can't express how saddened I am to hear of the evil that visited your church.
We are all co-workers of the light, your loved ones are now in eternal light.

Evidence repeatedly reveals that a person that has entered the "Dark side" can not feel empathy for the suffering of others.

Parajoe:
My condolences to the Victims families

Its only on Nairaland i see people debating if it was atheism that motivated him whereas in US...
They are debating Gun laws and Mental health.

There are reports that he escaped mental Health facility and had issue of domestic abuse with his in laws...(His grandmother in law was a victim of the shooting)

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/07/us/texas-church-shooting/index.html

I am sure that the families reading your condolences will realize that there are wise people in this evil world.

You say that it is only Nairaland that sees this crime as birthed from Atheism. We all know that debating gun laws are useless because guns are not the problem. You also say that America is debating this Atheist's horrendous crime as a mental health issue, whic is a good start, but only scratches the surface of the problem.

The reality is that there are only two powerful spiritual sides, the "Dark" and the "Light" that has a direct effect on the behavior of mankind. Humans were created with Free Will and their primary choice is between spiritual darkness and spiritual light. When they have learned to identify the manifested symptoms of dark spiritual forces operating in their own and others lives, the wise ones will choose the Light. This not religious talk. It is a verifiable reality. As long as science is allowed to dictate the path of human understanding of reality, suffering will exponentially increase.

The world knows that gun laws and death sentences has never helped one bit, but they stick to their failures.
People that has stepped into the light dont need laws to govern their behavior.

I noticed that butterflyl1on's brilliant attempt at introducing higher reason as a way forward in understanding this human tragedy has partly failed because Atheists prefer to use the lower mental faculty - Logic, to debate and win.

Consider only one of butterflyl1on's pleas to higher reason, " We are not talking about motive for killing alone. But motive for CHOICE OF PLACE FOR KILLING AND KILLING especially since he preached atheism and called believers in God STUPID."

hopefulLandlord:
Those pastors sell expensive jackets, Car bumper stickers, stickers for their member's main entrance with words like "I'm protected by the blood of Jesus" "No weapon fashioned against me shall prosper" "I will lift up mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help" "the name our our God is a strong tower, the righteous runneth into it and are saved" in order to raise money for more and/or better bodyguards divine protection

HopefulLandlord, You certainly highlight a very real problem congregations world wide face in all religions. I can share my experience relating to your reasonable criticism on the issues above. But right now it would be wiser to first tackle news of such tragedies with compassion for the remaining families.

We the esteemed members of Nairaland are part of a global community.
We say to the remaining loved ones, hold tight to positive and wholesome memories for comfort,
Lean on your faith, your family and friends for strength.
Always remember how much you all were loved by those that has passed into the light.