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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by drealdoc89(m): 12:05am On Nov 10, 2017
internationalman:
I never for once believed it's real.
Unless 90% of d population are immuned to it. If not I don't see d reason why almost everyone is not infected with it considering d way sex flows in circulation from one person to another just like money.
You don't need to believe if its real.
Just come to North East and experiment it yourself.
I'm currently in North East Nigeria and I can tell you its real by the population of patients on ARVs in the hospital where I am currently.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Nobody: 12:07am On Nov 10, 2017
I make it a point to get every girl I date tested and I test myself also,once you realise toto na toto to hop around no go dey your mind.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by deolurexy1(m): 12:10am On Nov 10, 2017
Hiv/AID is real, very real...fela died of AIDS, magic Johnson and charlie sheen also have Hiv. A man on my street also died of it. My people it is real o, #playsafe

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Nobody: 12:14am On Nov 10, 2017
I see why HIV is still spreading and will kill many Africans. Sad this is coming from ladies. One would think with the awareness and education we have, HIV should be a past thing. Can you imagine people thinking some Americans wants to wipe them out.... what a silly mentality. we need to get really intelligent as a nation
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by xamuelotu(m): 12:17am On Nov 10, 2017
MrDickman:

bros forget that nonsense. HIV ko HIV ni. That thing na scam and point one the op noted is proof. Results are always inconsistent. a friend of mine once tested positive in one hospital like that . he coundn't sleep nor eat for day. he was even contemplating suicide then I persuaded him to re do the test again. This time in a different hospital. They said he was negative. We went t to another hospital, result read negative. To be very sure, he did the test again after some months and still negative. The first hospital that tested positive, naso dem for don go do am for innocent person, the mumu go just accept him fate like that dey use drug ontop disease wey e nor get. How e nor go die?

By the way why do you people attribute STD's and vaginal maggots to Alhajis? We need to stop that mentality abeg. Grow up dude.
lol,the way u d reason the make me laugh but anyway na u get ur body. the test tube is not 100% accurate that y u have to go for confirmatry test when ur result comes out positive. to further explain the test tube look for antibody so it maybe possible ur friends body produce antibody for another sickness thereby tricking the test tube, confirmary test would have given him the real result
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Nobody: 12:18am On Nov 10, 2017
Iamasongwriter:
We are really in serious trouble with the kind of comments I'm seeing here.
this is just the reason why HIV patients keep increasing by the day
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by tintingz(m): 12:47am On Nov 10, 2017
MrDickman:

bros forget that nonsense. HIV ko HIV ni. That thing na scam and point one the op noted is proof. Results are always inconsistent. a friend of mine once tested positive in one hospital like that . he coundn't sleep nor eat for day. he was even contemplating suicide then I persuaded him to re do the test again. This time in a different hospital. They said he was negative. We went t to another hospital, result read negative. To be very sure, he did the test again after some months and still negative. The first hospital that tested positive, naso dem for don go do am for innocent person, the mumu go just accept him fate like that dey use drug ontop disease wey e nor get. How e nor go die?

By the way why do you people attribute STD's and vaginal maggots to Alhajis? We need to stop that mentality abeg. Grow up dude.
Ignorance is a disease, some people still debate this and doubt the existence of the virus, this how some people also believe the earth is flat, if you want proof, go to hospitals where they have HIV/AIDs patients for proof or better still sleep with someone with HIV and see the result.

I've a family friend that's HIV positive she got it from her wayward husband, so if you want HIV/AIDs proof its very easy, you can request for a HIV blood transfusion to transfer it in your body.

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by LaaJiblik: 12:58am On Nov 10, 2017
UrennaNkoli:
So I was having a discussion with friends at work today about HIV and shockingly not all of us agreed on whether the virus is real or not. Some said it a development from the American government to wipe out the African population. They further backed it up with the following theories

1. Why is test results not always constant. They said whatever result you take, its all lies. Why is it that you get tested in a hospital and it reads positive. To clear your doubts, you move to another hospital the following day to get a test and it reads negative
THAT IS A LIE. A POSITIVE RESULT WILL REMAIN POSITIVE. EXCEPT IF THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE WAS NOT FILLOWED IN CARRYING OUT THE TEST.

2. Many people who have multiple sex partners never get the virus. (forget about theories that some people are immune to the virus) But a first time who decides to have unprotected sex contacts the virus. Isn't that unfair grin Aunty yetunde who is a prostitute is negative while sister chiamaka the choir mistress is positive.
YOU MAY SLEEP WITH 1,000,000 WOMEN OR MEN AND NOT GET INFECTED. REASON: ALL 1,000,000 OF THEM ARE UNINFECTED. ALL YOU MAY NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE HALF A ROUND WITH AN INFECTED WOMAN OR MAN AND VOILA! YOU ARE INFECTED

3. Some said HIV might be real but doesn't leads to aids. Its the ARV drugs you take (supposedly developed but the western world to decrease population) that leads to AIDS.

BASELESS ARGUMENT. WHAT DO THOSE ONES KNOW ABOUT THE BIOCHEMISTRY OF THE ARVS?

4. The virus was an initial experiment but somehow escaped from the lab

FROM WHOSE LAB?

5. Some said its real and have a cure but the pharmaceutical industries are after financial gain. They'll make more profits with patients managing the virus rather than an instant cure/#.
Ever heard of HIV DENIALISM ? Some denialists reject the existence of HIV, while others accept that the virus exists but say that it is a harmless passenger virus and not the cause of AIDS. cheesy

My own candid view is that the virus is real (GOOD CANDID VIEW FROM YOU. But I don't believe it leads to AIDS (WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IT LEADS TO?. All the same, protection is key, abstinence is the best. If you test positive today, its not the end of the world. Life goes on.

well whats your take?

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by chayoski: 1:08am On Nov 10, 2017
internationalman:
I never for once believed it's real.
Unless 90% of d population are immuned to it. If not I don't see d reason why almost everyone is not infected with it considering d way sex flows in circulation from one person to another just like money.
go to ART centres and see the number is persons attending health talks and taking ARVs. How do you know the number of persons infected? Or is it now obvious like Chicken Pox? One had better try abstinence or try get infected to know whether it is false or fact.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Organs(m): 1:10am On Nov 10, 2017
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Bros, you try, your #2 is wrong. You might have sex with an infected person again and again and not get infected. Those that are high risk are the gay community.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by internationalman(m): 1:16am On Nov 10, 2017
chayoski:
go to ART centres and see the number is persons attending health talks and taking ARVs. How do you know the number of persons infected? Or is it now obvious like Chicken Pox? One had better try abstinence or try get infected to know whether it is false or fact.
Everyone preaches abstinence but how many practices it?

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by internationalman(m): 1:18am On Nov 10, 2017
drealdoc89:

You don't need to believe if its real.
Just come to North East and experiment it yourself.
I'm currently in North East Nigeria and I can tell you its real by the population of patients on ARVs in the hospital where I am currently.
So u mean to say it's only in those region they have sex or have sex without protection.

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by hopefulLandlord: 1:22am On Nov 10, 2017
Organs:



I agree absolutely with your last line. Per real or not real. Prof. Dr. Olikoye Ransome Kuti said emphatically that his brother Fela died of aids. I don't think the guy will lie like that, also, he is a teacher, Dr and even a Health Minister.

there are allegations that Olikoye killed Fela and reported he died of AIDS, its alleged that some top politicians colluded to have Fela killed as he's made too many enemies so they paid his brother to kill him; not saying its true though
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by chayoski: 1:48am On Nov 10, 2017
internationalman:

Everyone preaches abstinence but how many practices it?
Firstly, I will like to add that HIV transmission is not strictly related to only sex. I cannot tell how many persons practise it, but when one person takes the resolve to live responsibly, and another and another, it will just keep spreading. It is just like the case of Who is a virgin or not? You don't expect a sane human to come out to announce that he or she is, but they exist. My point is, be responsible to yourself. Do the right thing whether or not anyone is watching or ready to appraise you.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by salford1: 1:53am On Nov 10, 2017
sekem:
According to Thabo Mbeki, former president of south Africa, HIV/AIDS is not real.

He stater that HIV/AIDS does not kill people. That what actually kills people is malnutrition and hunger.
That is why SA has the highest rate of hiv in the world. When you look at stats, the rate is higher in African country because a lot of people in Africa do not believe that the virus exist; hence, it's spreading like wild fire.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by chayoski: 1:55am On Nov 10, 2017
internationalman:

So u mean to say it's only in those region they have sex or have sex without protection.
You will be amazed by the statistics of people living with HIV. Try and check it out. That is excluding those that re still unaware of their positive status and those who are, but have decided to hide it for whatever their reasons are. HIV like is said, is not a death sentence. It kills just as someone can just slip, fall and die. Let me answer the op's question. HIV is real and if it is not managed properly, it can lead to AIDS.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Davidlollipop(m): 2:24am On Nov 10, 2017
Real or not, there is also the risk of contracting other diseases like gono and staph, however, i have had sex with a number of ladies without using any protection and i havent tested positive to the virus or any other disease, the major reason i use protection is to avoid unwanted pregnancy not much for the fear of HIV.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Alwaysking: 2:33am On Nov 10, 2017
sinaj:
Op just try no 2 by sleeping with only 3 different Alhajis in a week. You will know better afterwards.

Silly post.
What is did one saying

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Alwaysking: 2:34am On Nov 10, 2017
sinaj:
Op just try no 2 by sleeping with only 3 different Alhajis in a week. You will know better afterwards.

Silly post.
What is dis one saying

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Debrothz(m): 2:34am On Nov 10, 2017
Hiv/Aids is so real, Discrepancy between hospitals or medical laboratories could be due to professional errors, play safe guys HIV is so real, speaking as a Medical Laboratory Scientist.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by dabeto: 2:51am On Nov 10, 2017
Any thing that is argued back and forth....e dey kill, e no dey kill......wisdom demands you apply caution or stay off. Aids is REAl
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Soxxy: 3:00am On Nov 10, 2017
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by AreaFada2: 3:14am On Nov 10, 2017
internationalman:
I never for once believed it's real.
Unless 90% of d population are immuned to it. If not I don't see d reason why almost everyone is not infected with it considering d way sex flows in circulation from one person to another just like money.
But fact is only about 10% of the population has been tested. And many of those only happened due to maternity/pregnancy issue. From the 10% tested, the rate is fairly high.
So until we have tested more, we cannot dismiss it either way.

Also in a country with a low life expectancy like 9ja (52 years), most infected people will die of other causes before they can even be diagnosed with HIV. Because in many people, it can take up to 20 years for AIDS symptoms to show markedly.

A tiny portion of people do not contract HIV through sex the very first time sleeping with an HIV infected person. Like circumcised men without open wound in their manliness might just get away with it once or twice. Not that men should rely on such "rare luck" to avoid catching AIDS.
An extremely tiny number of people actually have innate resistance to certain strains of HIV virus that use CCR5 receptor to enter and infect cell.

People with a mutation of the gene (Delta 32 mutation) that codes for CCR5 receptor (call it docking point/entry point) will usually not catch the strain that uses that receptor. But might catch HIV strains that uses another entry point. Around 10% of Caucasians have that resistant gene but under 1% of mankind as a whole.

It was thought that taking bone marrow from a resistant person to give an HIV patient could cure him. But it is now most likely that it is the complication effect of the graft/transplant that kills the the HIV in the system. Not the Delta 32 gene effect from the donated bone marrow/stem cell..

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by shambala: 3:16am On Nov 10, 2017
UrennaNkoli:
So I was having a discussion with friends at work today about HIV and shockingly not all of us agreed on whether the virus is real or not. Some said it a development from the American government to wipe out the African population. They further backed it up with the following theories

1. Why is test results not always constant. They said whatever result you take, its all lies. Why is it that you get tested in a hospital and it reads positive. To clear your doubts, you move to another hospital the following day to get a test and it reads negative

2. Many people who have multiple sex partners never get the virus. (forget about theories that some people are immune to the virus) But a first time who decides to have unprotected sex contacts the virus. Isn't that unfair grin Aunty yetunde who is a prostitute is negative while sister chiamaka the choir mistress is positive.

3. Some said HIV might be real but doesn't leads to aids. Its the ARV drugs you take (supposedly developed but the western world to decrease population) that leads to AIDS.

4. The virus was an initial experiment but somehow escaped from the lab

5. Some said its real and have a cure but the pharmaceutical industries are after financial gain. They'll make more profits with patients managing the virus rather than an instant cure/#.
Ever heard of HIV DENIALISM ? Some denialists reject the existence of HIV, while others accept that the virus exists but say that it is a harmless passenger virus and not the cause of AIDS. cheesy

My own candid view is that the virus is real. But I don't believe it leads to AIDS. All the same, protection is key, abstinence is the best. If you test positive today, its not the end of the world. Life goes on.

well whats your take?

Please my dear,
HIV is too real and it surely leads to AIDS. I lost my both parents to the dreaded virus and I have seen it render the body useless over time while leaving you as a skeletal specimen.
Know your status and "NEVER" engage in unprotected sex if you are not certain of the persons status.

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by shambala: 3:19am On Nov 10, 2017
MrDickman:

bros forget that nonsense. HIV ko HIV ni. That thing na scam and point one the op noted is proof. Results are always inconsistent. a friend of mine once tested positive in one hospital like that . he coundn't sleep nor eat for day. he was even contemplating suicide then I persuaded him to re do the test again. This time in a different hospital. They said he was negative. We went t to another hospital, result read negative. To be very sure, he did the test again after some months and still negative. The first hospital that tested positive, naso dem for don go do am for innocent person, the mumu go just accept him fate like that dey use drug ontop disease wey e nor get. How e nor go die?

By the way why do you people attribute STD's and vaginal maggots to Alhajis? We need to stop that mentality abeg. Grow up dude.

Dude, HIV is real. I lost my dad to it 16 years ago and most recently my mum a year ago. You don't want to see AIDS in action I can bet you.

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by helpee(m): 3:27am On Nov 10, 2017
Organs:



I agree absolutely with your last line. Per real or not real. Prof. Dr. Olikoye Ransome Kuti said emphatically that his brother Fela died of aids. I don't think the guy will lie like that, also, he is a teacher, Dr and even a Health Minister. My broda, i think aids is real. You cannot use that your example to judge. Just last week here, a naija hospital told a pregnant lady she will be having a son. The lady got to London and discovered she is having TWINS. Now lets discuss the koko of the matter... Now, for the first hospital that said your friend tested positive, what did you guys do? i guess nothing right? That is the nigerian corruption, laziness and mentality. That hospital might have a bad, defective system or might not even be carrying out comprehensive tests even and someone might commit suicide by that news. So what you and your friend is supposed to do is follow-up, or sue the hospital so that NO ONE EVER experiences what your friend experienced due to negligence, corruption or a defective system. Its not too late, in the meantime, what is the name of the hospital and where is it located?
The test they did is not a confirmatory test so they wont win if they sue the hospital. The result will likely read: SUBJECT TO CONFIRMATION. So there is room for false positive result. But to the main topic.. HIV IS SO REAL THAT I AM SO SCARED NOWADAYS . We see it practically daily now.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by AreaFada2: 3:30am On Nov 10, 2017
benifeanyi00556:
I believe its real but it is a very difficult virus to contract but more easier to be contracted by a woman than a man. but there are some situation that might make u think this HIV thing is a scam. I have this friend whose gf tested positive and she later confessed of having another guy but the both guys tested Negative and the relationship has lasted for 11 months with unprotected sex. that really got me thinking same thing d op said.

First of, one of the guys or both might have concealed the truth. Did you see the test results of the two people?

I can tell you authoritatively that many men & women are positive and know it but have refused to tell their husband/wife.
Women are even more scared of been thrown out.

On the other hand, just under 1% of all people & 10% of Europeans have a genetic resistance to some strains of HIV virus.

Yes, men are just slightly less at risk. Slightly less surface for entry compared to the larger female area of exposure.

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Uniquejames(m): 3:37am On Nov 10, 2017
MountCliff:
Are my country people all these medically ingnorant? They are still asking if AIDs is real. Well, I don't have much to say. 1 out of every 10 Nigerians has the virus. Abstainance, protective sex is the way to avoid it.

u lie! I know about a thousand folk that doesn't have the virus... are they not among the 1outta10?
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Uniquejames(m): 3:40am On Nov 10, 2017
AreaFada2:


First of, one of the guys or both might have concealed the truth. Did you see the test results of the two people?

I can tell you authoritatively that many men & women are positive and know it but have refused to tell their husband/wife.
Women are even more scared of been thrown out.

On the other hand, just under 1% of all people & 10% of Europeans have a genetic resistance to some strains of HIV virus.

Yes, men are just slightly less at risk. Slightly less surface for entry compared to the larger female area of exposure.

why must Europe be 10%? look well and you see that the whole HIV virus shiii is big time scam!

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by AuroraB(f): 3:45am On Nov 10, 2017
DanseMacabre:



Because of 'unwanted pregnancies'? No dear, I'm a bearded dick-sporting male. cheesy
Oh, okay cool
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by AreaFada2: 3:58am On Nov 10, 2017
Uniquejames:


why must Europe be 10%? look well and you see that the whole HIV virus shiii is big time scam!

It is just genetics, like lottery. Maybe some of their original ancestors got infected by a virus similar to HIV. So over millenia, some of the population gradually developed resistance by deleting the gene. Perhaps many were wiped out by it and some survived.

But on the other hand we blacks ought to have been at the forefront of HIV research, but we are not. We wait for the West to do all the work. He who does the job controls the narrative. We often complain about the narrative.

Another case is sickle cell. No doubt, West Africans and people of WA descent are most affected. Though other Africans also suffer from it.
It is not all conspiracy.
Remember too that whatever illness one has, poor nutrition, poor healthcare system and poverty make it worse. These factors affect us more too. And they are things that we ought to be able to change too.

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by toysleek(f): 4:48am On Nov 10, 2017
HIV-1most commonly uses the chemokine receptors CCR5 and/orCXCR4 asco-receptors to enter target immunological cells.Some people's CCR5 have been mutated and no matter how exposed they are to an HIV type 1 strain , they will never contact it.
Also , a positive person with a low viral load and high CD4 will not transmit it easily..(there are many discordant couples)..
As per the inconsistent result,i guess only one determine kit was used(this can give incorrect result especially if the person is immune suppressed already)...The standard practise is to use at least 2 kits before confirming a +ve status.Heck, you could even use a third kit!
HIV is real, so also is AIDS..

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