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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by AK481(m): 8:44am On Nov 10, 2017
YelloweWest:
Stop fùcking multiple people.

Especially guys.

The first person to contact hiv was a man.

Men spread hiv easier and faster than women.

Before I quote me do your research.

Men spread faster women contact faster due to their anatomy.

However hiv is not that easy to contract.

Gay unprotected sex which is the most probable is far less than 10%
Normal man to woman vagina sex is less than 1% with an infected person.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Nobody: 8:44am On Nov 10, 2017
MrDickman:

bros forget that nonsense. HIV ko HIV ni. That thing na scam and point one the op noted is proof. Results are always inconsistent. a friend of mine once tested positive in one hospital like that . he coundn't sleep nor eat for day. he was even contemplating suicide then I persuaded him to re do the test again. This time in a different hospital. They said he was negative. We went t to another hospital, result read negative. To be very sure, he did the test again after some months and still negative. The first hospital that tested positive, naso dem for don go do am for innocent person, the mumu go just accept him fate like that dey use drug ontop disease wey e nor get. How e nor go die?

By the way why do you people attribute STD's and vaginal maggots to Alhajis? We need to stop that mentality abeg. Grow up dude.

My brother this thing dey real, no go kill yourself o, or at least keep your conspiracy theories to yourself to avoid putting others in trouble.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by makahlj2: 8:50am On Nov 10, 2017
IMHO, AIDS is a pestilence with which God is punishing humanity for forgetting the lessons of Sodom and Gomorrah. These who obey God's commandments will survive, and others - they will just be claimed by the Hellfire sooner, thanks to the disease.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by omojeesu(m): 8:51am On Nov 10, 2017
UrennaNkoli:
So I was having a discussion with friends at work today about HIV and shockingly not all of us agreed on whether the virus is real or not. Some said it a development from the American government to wipe out the African population. They further backed it up with the following theories

1. Why is test results not always constant. They said whatever result you take, its all lies. Why is it that you get tested in a hospital and it reads positive. To clear your doubts, you move to another hospital the following day to get a test and it reads negative

2. Many people who have multiple sex partners never get the virus. (forget about theories that some people are immune to the virus) But a first time who decides to have unprotected sex contacts the virus. Isn't that unfair grin Aunty yetunde who is a prostitute is negative while sister chiamaka the choir mistress is positive.

3. Some said HIV might be real but doesn't leads to aids. Its the ARV drugs you take (supposedly developed but the western world to decrease population) that leads to AIDS.

4. The virus was an initial experiment but somehow escaped from the lab

5. Some said its real and have a cure but the pharmaceutical industries are after financial gain. They'll make more profits with patients managing the virus rather than an instant cure/#.
Ever heard of HIV DENIALISM ? Some denialists reject the existence of HIV, while others accept that the virus exists but say that it is a harmless passenger virus and not the cause of AIDS. cheesy

My own candid view is that the virus is real. But I don't believe it leads to AIDS. All the same, protection is key, abstinence is the best. If you test positive today, its not the end of the world. Life goes on.

well whats your take?

The virus is real. Very real. Signs and symptoms are proof. Anti-HIV medication improves health though have side effects.

Origin of the virus: No one knows for sure.

A biological weapon? Only God and the creators would know.

A medical / lab accident? Read the book, 'The River' by Edward Hooper.

Business interest? No doubt!

Conspiracy theory? There's no smoke without fire!
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by newslifeop: 8:53am On Nov 10, 2017
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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by LaaJiblik: 9:15am On Nov 10, 2017
Organs:



Bros, you try, your #2 is wrong. You might have sex with an infected person again and again and not get infected. Those that are high risk are the gay community.


Don’t be deceived.
Heterosexuals are also at very great risk. The fact that receptive and Insertive anal sex poses a higher risk does not diminish the risk of getting infected via heterosexual means.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Tims088: 9:32am On Nov 10, 2017
1. Why is test results not always constant. They said whatever result you take, its all lies. Why is it that you get tested in a hospital and it reads positive. To clear your doubts, you move to another hospital the following day to get a test and it reads negative

There are so many different ways to test for HIV, in Nigeria we normally use 3 stages test to confirm if someone is positive or not.
The first is the Rapid Test, here if the results shows negative it means the person is negative as of that day but if it reads positive it doesn't confirm if the person is actually positive, it only means a further test is required, that takes us to the second stage depending on the clinic, this second confirmatory test can be done with stat pak or unigold kit, clinics without this kits will ask you to go to another hospital to confirm
UNIGOLD TEST KIT... In this second test if the result still read positive the person is confirmed positive(some clinics don't confirm until the third test is done) but if the result is negative after reading positive in the rapid test, you need a tie breaker
STAT PAK... This in most case is the final test the result shown here is regarded as the person's hiv status

2. Many people who have multiple sex partners never get the virus. (forget about theories that some people are immune to the virus) But a first time who decides to have unprotected sex contacts the virus. Isn't that unfair grin Aunty yetunde who is a prostitute is negative while sister chiamaka the choir mistress is positive.


No one is immuned from Hiv. Having several sexual patners only increases your chances of being Positive it doesn't mean you will be positive eventually, The sister chiamaka is probably unlucky to have had unprotected sex with someone who is positive, the lucky prostitute however is having protected sex with negative/positive clients or unprotected sex with hiv negative clients

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by internationalman(m): 9:33am On Nov 10, 2017
sexaddict08:


you just took it out of my mouth...i know of a hotel here where the bar men, bouncers, and even relatives of the owners of the hotel fuukks the girls in the hotel without condom...some of them have wives at home, and some have other partners in other hotels around....
everybody suppose don get hiv for this town jor....
If only one person has HIV in a community I bet u that everyone who indulges in sex must have it also.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by internationalman(m): 9:39am On Nov 10, 2017
AreaFada2:

But fact is only about 10% of the population has been tested. And many of those only happened due to maternity/pregnancy issue. From the 10% tested, the rate is fairly high.
So until we have tested more, we cannot dismiss it either way.

Also in a country with a low life expectancy like 9ja (52 years), most infected people will die of other causes before they can even be diagnosed with HIV. Because in many people, it can take up to 20 years for AIDS symptoms to show markedly.

A tiny portion of people do not contract HIV through sex the very first time sleeping with an HIV infected person. Like circumcised men without open wound in their manliness might just get away with it once or twice. Not that men should rely on such "rare luck" to avoid catching AIDS.
An extremely tiny number of people actually have innate resistance to certain strains of HIV virus that use CCR5 receptor to enter and infect cell.

People with a mutation of the gene (Delta 32 mutation) that codes for CCR5 receptor (call it docking point/entry point) will usually not catch the strain that uses that receptor. But might catch HIV strains that uses another entry point. Around 10% of Caucasians have that resistant gene but under 1% of mankind as a whole.

It was thought that taking bone marrow from a resistant person to give an HIV patient could cure him. But it is now most likely that it is the complication effect of the graft/transplant that kills the the HIV in the system. Not the Delta 32 gene effect from the donated bone marrow/stem cell..
Are you a medical practitioner?
You tried but ur explanation is confusing.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by snowblaq(f): 9:41am On Nov 10, 2017
Atiku2019:
TDF/ 3TC/ EFV

Tenofovir/Lamivudine/Efavirenz. grin
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by internationalman(m): 9:43am On Nov 10, 2017
chayoski:
Firstly, I will like to add that HIV transmission is not strictly related to only sex. I cannot tell how many persons practise it, but when one person takes the resolve to live responsibly, and another and another, it will just keep spreading. It is just like the case of Who is a virgin or not? You don't expect a sane human to come out to announce that he or she is, but they exist. My point is, be responsible to yourself. Do the right thing whether or not anyone is watching or ready to appraise you.
The fact that y'all are still saying it can be contracted through other means other than sex makes it more unbelieving to me.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by PrecisionFx(m): 9:49am On Nov 10, 2017
UrennaNkoli:
So I was having a discussion with friends at work today about HIV and shockingly not all of us agreed on whether the virus is real or not. Some said it a development from the American government to wipe out the African population. They further backed it up with the following theories

1. Why is test results not always constant. They said whatever result you take, its all lies. Why is it that you get tested in a hospital and it reads positive. To clear your doubts, you move to another hospital the following day to get a test and it reads negative

2. Many people who have multiple sex partners never get the virus. (forget about theories that some people are immune to the virus) But a first time who decides to have unprotected sex contacts the virus. Isn't that unfair grin Aunty yetunde who is a prostitute is negative while sister chiamaka the choir mistress is positive.

3. Some said HIV might be real but doesn't leads to aids. Its the ARV drugs you take (supposedly developed but the western world to decrease population) that leads to AIDS.

4. The virus was an initial experiment but somehow escaped from the lab

5. Some said its real and have a cure but the pharmaceutical industries are after financial gain. They'll make more profits with patients managing the virus rather than an instant cure/#.
Ever heard of HIV DENIALISM ? Some denialists reject the existence of HIV, while others accept that the virus exists but say that it is a harmless passenger virus and not the cause of AIDS. cheesy

My own candid view is that the virus is real. But I don't believe it leads to AIDS. All the same, protection is key, abstinence is the best. If you test positive today, its not the end of the world. Life goes on.

well whats your take?




It's a fact that HIV is a passenger virus that doesn't harm anyone, the killer is those so called drugs that prevents HIV from destroying the immune system. People who have HIV are always healthy until they go for testing n the doctor tells them that they are positive........ Then sickness starts.

It's all over the media, there are countless professors of medicine, professors of biochemistry n professors of molecular biology have said that HIV is a hoax and yet they have never been arrested n charged to court for misleading the public.



AIDS is caused by hunger or poor diet. AIDS is triggered wen someone fails to eat quality food with the needed nutrients to power their immune system, it then leads to AIDS.

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by PrecisionFx(m): 9:53am On Nov 10, 2017
KardinalZik:
Forget those hypotheses. HIV IS REAL! AIDS IS REAL!! AND SO ARE THE EFFECTS!!! Multiple medical and statistical evidence exist.

Stop wasting your time arguing with those who lack FACTS AND FIGURES and scientific backing. They'll infect you with their DELIBERATE IGNORANCE.



AIDS is real of course, But it is caused by poor nutrition. HIV does not cause AIDS Theres no proof that it does.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by FitnessDoctor: 10:32am On Nov 10, 2017
boiz2men:
I have seen aids patients several times... You all ignorant... Would have explained but I'm busy...

I could really love to read your thoughts on this, when you are less busy.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by buddwizer: 10:59am On Nov 10, 2017
UrennaNkoli:
So I was having a discussion with friends at work today about HIV and shockingly not all of us agreed on whether the virus is real or not. Some said it a development from the American government to wipe out the African population. They further backed it up with the following theories

1. Why is test results not always constant. They said whatever result you take, its all lies. Why is it that you get tested in a hospital and it reads positive. To clear your doubts, you move to another hospital the following day to get a test and it reads negative

2. Many people who have multiple sex partners never get the virus. (forget about theories that some people are immune to the virus) But a first time who decides to have unprotected sex contacts the virus. Isn't that unfair grin Aunty yetunde who is a prostitute is negative while sister chiamaka the choir mistress is positive.

3. Some said HIV might be real but doesn't leads to aids. Its the ARV drugs you take (supposedly developed but the western world to decrease population) that leads to AIDS.

4. The virus was an initial experiment but somehow escaped from the lab

5. Some said its real and have a cure but the pharmaceutical industries are after financial gain. They'll make more profits with patients managing the virus rather than an instant cure/#.
Ever heard of HIV DENIALISM ? Some denialists reject the existence of HIV, while others accept that the virus exists but say that it is a harmless passenger virus and not the cause of AIDS. cheesy

My own candid view is that the virus is real. But I don't believe it leads to AIDS. All the same, protection is key, abstinence is the best. If you test positive today, its not the end of the world. Life goes on.

well whats your take?

My take is that i would really love to know where you work ?
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by AryaSand(f): 11:09am On Nov 10, 2017
maklelemakukula:
With the level of development in the world today, this is actually a very stupid thread
Seconded! A very very stupid Thread.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by PAQ: 11:36am On Nov 10, 2017
sinaj:


I dont think ARV drugs leads to Aids because many prominent people died from Aids during the 20th century unlike now when people live longer and healthier lives because of ARV.

U r right, prominent people like Freddy Mercury, the lead vocalist in the pop group Queen, Easy E the rapper from the group NWA all died from AIDS. Magic Johnson is still alive after 26yrs since infected thanks to Anti Retro Viral drugs. The disease is as real as f*ck, many of us have gone down the man-hole many times without protection, we r just lucky risk takers.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by sinaj(f): 11:39am On Nov 10, 2017
PAQ:


U r right, prominent people like Freddy Mercury, the lead vocalist in the pop group Queen, Easy E the rapper from the group NWA all died from AIDS. Magic Johnson is still alive after 26yrs since infected thanks to Anti Retro Viral drugs. The disease is as real as f*ck, many of us have gone down the man-hole many times without protection, we r just lucky risk takers.
I even got to know about Easy E from straight outta compson.

The virus is very real. Nigerians are so funny, one illiterate woke up one morning and started spreading this rubbish.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by ichommy(m): 12:18pm On Nov 10, 2017
MrDickman:
Someone go come church give testimony say he bin dey live with HIV for 10yrs but after last week night vigil, pastor pray for am and he turned out negative. The mumu nor know say all these while he had been using ARV,s and stuffs thinking he was positive, he was indeed negative. It shall not be well with the doctors who lied to him 10 yrs ago.

grin
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by maklelemakukula(m): 12:32pm On Nov 10, 2017
AryaSand:

Seconded! A very very stupid Thread.
Ikr dumb dumb thread.

Ur personal text seems more like an oxymoron tho
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Abimloaded(m): 1:19pm On Nov 10, 2017
DanseMacabre:
Some 'unbelievers' have even gone as far as acronymising it as 'American Invention to Discourage Sex'. grin


Me, I don't know, and I don't care, really, at least not that much.

I use contraceptives mainly to avoid unwanted pregnancies and badder STDs like good old gonorrhea and staph.

Do we have contraceptives for men ?
I mean the one men uses to prevent pregnancy and STDs.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by NovaCare: 2:42pm On Nov 10, 2017
UrennaNkoli:
So I was having a discussion with friends at work today about HIV and shockingly not all of us agreed on whether the virus is real or not. Some said it a development from the American government to wipe out the African population. They further backed it up with the following theories

1. Why is test results not always constant. They said whatever result you take, its all lies. Why is it that you get tested in a hospital and it reads positive. To clear your doubts, you move to another hospital the following day to get a test and it reads negative

2. Many people who have multiple sex partners never get the virus. (forget about theories that some people are immune to the virus) But a first time who decides to have unprotected sex contacts the virus. Isn't that unfair grin Aunty yetunde who is a prostitute is negative while sister chiamaka the choir mistress is positive.

3. Some said HIV might be real but doesn't leads to aids. Its the ARV drugs you take (supposedly developed but the western world to decrease population) that leads to AIDS.

4. The virus was an initial experiment but somehow escaped from the lab

5. Some said its real and have a cure but the pharmaceutical industries are after financial gain. They'll make more profits with patients managing the virus rather than an instant cure/#.

Ever heard of HIV DENIALISM ? Some denialists reject the existence of HIV, while others accept that the virus exists but say that it is a harmless passenger virus and not the cause of AIDS. cheesy

My own candid view is that the virus is real. But I don't believe it leads to AIDS. All the same, protection is key, abstinence is the best. If you test positive today, its not the end of the world. Life goes on.

well whats your take?

This seems to be a timely thread! I was thinking of opening a thread here on the Health Section on the Myths and Realities of HIV/AIDS and ways to manage and combat the pandemic but the workload on me and my various trips has not given me time to do that. Albeit, pending on when i open the thread, let me take the various points you raised so as to enlighten more people about the HIV virus.


1. Why is test results not always constant. They said whatever result you take, its all lies. Why is it that you get tested in a hospital and it reads positive. To clear your doubts, you move to another hospital the following day to get a test and it reads negative

Ans: There is something called a "False Positive" and also a "False Negative" in HIV ELISA Tests. I'll explain...

FALSE POSITIVE: When a test is conducted for HIV, a result is determined not by the presence of the HIV virus in the body but by the activities of the antibodies that react to the HIV virus itself! The reactions that culminate to these activities sometimes occur in the body of a HIV negative individual.

These reactions are due to but not limited to the following occurrences:

*Anti-carbohydrate antibodies
*Naturally-occurring antibodies
*Passive immunization: receipt of gamma globulin or immune globulin (as prophylaxis against infection which contains antibodies)
*Renal (kidney) failure
*Flu vaccination
*Malaria
*Pregnancy in multiparous women
*Herpes simplex I and II
*Blood transfusions, multiple blood transfusions
*High levels of circulating immune complexes
*Recent viral infection or exposure to viral vaccines
And many more metabolic reactions which is to numerous to mention. (The ones i listed are the most common and frequent)
All these and many other metabolic occurrences are a huge factor that is responsible for a false positive result in a HIV Negative person.

Receiving a positive ELISA result doesn’t mean that you’re HIV-positive. A small percentage of people may receive a false-positive result, which means the result says you have the virus when you don’t have it. This can happen if the test picks up on other antibodies (which may occur due to any or a combination of the list of events i compiled above) in your system.

All positive results are confirmed with a second test. This is called the Western Blot. This is a more sensitive antibody test. It can take up to a week for you to receive the results of this test. If the result of the Western blot turns up to be positive, then the person is confirmed to be really POSITIVE.

FALSE NEGATIVE (Usually Window Period): The window period is the term to describe the time between an exposure and the point at which an HIV test would show positive. During the window period someone who is infected wirh HIV can have a HIV negative test result.

For 4th generation antigen/antibody tests this period is four weeks for 95% of infections. Because 5% of people take up to three months to develop antibodies a three month window is generally referred to.

Another false negative which is not generally referred to as a false negative is when the person is on an HAART Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Treatment. The ARV drugs stops the rate at which HIV spreads. With prolonged period of ARV treatment, the HIV in the bloodstream dies off but some copies of the HIV hibernate in the body cells and tissues and even organs in the body. Any test following this can come out negative but in theory, the person is still HIV positive because on stopping the ARV treatment, the viruses hibernating in the cells and organs will come out of their hiding places and begin to make more copies of themselves.


2. Many people who have multiple sex partners never get the virus. (forget about theories that some people are immune to the virus) But a first time who decides to have unprotected sex contacts the virus. Isn't that unfair grin Aunty yetunde who is a prostitute is negative while sister chiamaka the choir mistress is positive.

HIV is a difficult virus to catch sexually. Even if your partner is HIV positive and you did not use a condom, the risk is usually less than 1 in 100 (less than 1%). However, it only takes one exposure to catch HIV. This means that luck and other factors are involved.

So this means that out of thousands of people who have a risk of catching HIV, some will become positive. For some people this might be from their first risky exposure. HIV is therefore generally a low risk event, but with potentially serious outcomes. Taking an HIV testing to know your HIV status is a good idea.

Viral load is another factor that plays an important role in HIV infection.

Using Aunty Yetunde and Sister Chiamaka which you mentioned as variables, consider this:

>>>Aunty Yetunde who is a prostitute may be using condoms on a steady basis and when not using a condom, it is possible that the men who sleep with her (raw) who are infected have very low copies of the virus in their system.

>>>Sister Chiamaka is a good born again christian. She is a virgin and has never had sex before. She meets a handsome young man who tells her how much he loves her and wants to marry her. This man is HIV positive and does not know it and the copies of the virus (viral load) in him is considerably high. He seduces our Sister Amaka and she gives in and they have unprotected sex...Sister Chiamaka gets infected with HIV.

CAUSE: The man's virus carrying semen was ejaculated into sister chiamaka hence her infection.

3. Some said HIV might be real but doesn't leads to aids. Its the ARV drugs you take (supposedly developed but the western world to decrease population) that leads to AIDS.

HIV is a virus that leads to AIDS if left untreated but it will take a considerably long period of time before this takes effect. The duration of HIV infection to the progression to AIDS varies from individual to individual. For some people, it will take up to 10-20 years while it will take a shorter time in others. It is worthy to note that factors such as Dieting, Lifestyle and environmental factors can play key roles to this duration.

On ARVs leading to AIDS: This is a very important part which i want people to understand...ARV in theory and truth does not really lead to AIDS. But there are some underlying factors...ARVs have what is known as protease inhibitors.

Now the reason for making ARVs is to slow down the process of the HIV Virus from spreading and increasing because the more copies of HIV virus, the more T4 Helper Cell that fight infections decrease which leads to what is known as a low CD4 count. ARVs have what we at NovaCare say is the Good and the UGLY..

The GOOD: It stops the mutation of HIV pathogens making it static as long as the infected person takes them for life...THE UGLY: ARVs are known to have adverse side effects on many HIV patients because it affects vital organs like the liver, pancreas etc.
Since it is a protease inhibitor, there has been many undocumented cases of HIV posing serious dangers on HIV+ people with a condition known as Pancreatitis and other health conditions.

Symptoms of pancreatitis may include abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, constipation, and jaundice. People at more advanced stages of HIV disease and those with previous pancreas problems are at a higher risk for pancreatitis, as are those who have a history of heavy alcohol consumption. Pancreatitis is also associated with elevated levels of blood triglycerides and other fats, which are often seen in people taking protease inhibitors. Increased blood levels of the enzyme amylase may indicate damage to the pancreas and to tell you the truth, this condition is very fatal!

Some other side effects of HAART include:

*Gastrointestinal Side Effects
*Peripheral neuropathy and Paresthesias (Mental and Neurological Side Effects)
*Skin Side Effects such as Rashes, Itching, pruritis, Steven-Johnson Syndrome etc
*Kidney Side Effects such as kidney toxicity, kidney stones, high creatinine levels and and high protein levels which can ultimately lead to kidney failure
*Hyperglycemia and Diabetes which results to the HAART actacking the B-Cells in the pancreas which is responsible for the production of Insulin.

When someone who is HIV+ comes down with a combination of one or more of all these ailment mentioned above, and the person dies...the medical postulation is usually that the person died of AIDS-related complex...


4. The virus was an initial experiment but somehow escaped from the lab

There have been quite a number of documented origins of the HIV virus but the most popular is the theory of its origin a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans according to scientists. They believe that the chimpanzee version of the immunodeficiency virus (called simian immunodeficiency virus or SIV) most likely was transmitted to humans and mutated into HIV when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over decades, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world.

5. Some said its real and have a cure but the pharmaceutical industries are after financial gain. They'll make more profits with patients managing the virus rather than an instant cure/#.

This is certainly the most debated and most controversial point today. There is an iota of truth in the claims that pharmaceutical industries are after financial gains. They know that if HIV which is a NON-RECURRENT infection is conquered, then less money for them. You may ask, "How do Pharmaceutical Companies make money from HIV since the drugs are given FREE OF CHARGE? Well, the truth is this...The Government of many countries (especially in Sub Saharan Africa) allocate specific funding for Health in their annual budget. Part of that money is paid to the World Health Organisations and USAID who in turn give their share to the Pharmaceutical Cartels. We are not talking of thousands or millions BUT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS annually. They use a percentage of these monies to produce the ARVs and live large with the rest.

Helloooo...It's just like what DSTv is doing today...they offer you subscription monthly after you buy their decoder and dish and Gotv...what stops them from offering those channels to you on a pay-off basis by just buying their equipment once and for all? IT'S BECAUSE THE REAL MONEY COMES FROM THE SUBSCRIPTION AND NOT THE SALE OF DECODERS just as the Pharma Cartel gets the bulk of their money from the provision of ARVs and not the cure which they have denied does not exist.


SO IS THERE TRULY A CURE FOR HIV?

HIV is a very cunning virus which once it gains entry into the human body, it begins to infect other cells in the body especially the T-Cells (lymcophytes) These T-Cells are responsible for fighting off infections and diseases. When the number of the cells are reduced, the person is said to have a low CD4 count and becomes susceptible to other ailments which ordinarily would have been taken care of by the body. Ordinarily, most drugs would be able to kill the HIV virus in the bloodstream as this is very easy but what makes HIV hard to treat is the fact that it goes to hide in the organs of the body and when the one in the blood is cleared off via Blood Neutralization and Cleansing protocols and others, the HIV hibernating in the organs will come out of their hiding places and reinfect the blood.

The only way HIV can be EFFECTIVELY TREATED is if it is possible to get a form of medication or antibiotic/antiviral agent which will do the following:

Be introduced in the body in form of a vaccine that on sighting the virus on the onset of infection, it arrests it immediately and prevents it from infecting body cells

Penetrate the protective coating (envelop) of the virus and kill the mitochondrion or RNA of the virus whereby it depletes it totally!

The former has been difficult to achieve but THERE IS AN AGENT THAT DOES THE LATTER WHICH IS SILVER!

Colloidal Silver when generated in very tiny miniscule particles smaller than the HIV virus can successfully penetrate the protective coating of the HIV virus and starve it of oxygen which will eventually kill the virus. The body organs absorb the colloidal silver and it also takes care of the HIV hiding in them WITHOUT AFFECTING THOSE ORGANS unlike the strong HIV drugs which will overtime harm these organs and cells like we saw earlier in my post. But unfortunately, the pharmaceutical cartel see colloidal silver as a threat to their ever booming business and have even banned it in some states in the US. This is because Silver unlike Antibiotics cannot be patented. The Egyptians of old were said to use silver in treating so many ailments during the time of the Pharaohs.

There have been so many undocumented cases of people who turned seropositive to seronegative using silver as treatment for HIV. Silver is a very powerful anti-microbial, anti-fungal, antiviral and antibacterial agent. Though it is sold by very few pharmacies in Nigeria, it is very expensive when available and secondly, most of the Colloidal Silver sold in Nigeria is mostly Ionic and not colloidal. Though Ionic can deal with the infections gotten as a result of suffering from HIV, it cannot effectively kill the virus as colloidal will do. A very good example of Colloidal Silver is Meso-Silver while Mountainwell and ASAP 10 are mostly Ionic.

What's the difference between Ionic and Colloidal Silver: The difference is particle size plus length of generation. If silver particles are suspended in a solution, is is said to be colloidal with very minute particle sizes of about 0.01-0.04nm (nanometer). Ionic silver has silver particles that are not in suspension but dissolved. They can take care of other ailments but not HIV effectively.

NovaCare produces quality Colloidal Silver which is generated under strict conditions and we have been using this (with other herbs) and natural supplements to treat people who are HIV positive with 99.9% success rate.

Colloidal Silver has no side effects as some people are made to believe that it turns people who take it BLUE! The silver that turns people Blue which is a condition known as Argyria are those who take Silver Salts also known as Silver Nitrates. This happens when you drink Colloidal Silver generated with NaCL or Silver solutions with Silver Proteins.

PLEASE NOTE: There is this particular so-called silver solution called "CS Gold" in the Nigerian market...IT IS DANGEROUS AND CAN CAUSE ARGYRIA! Be Warned!!

To know more about Colloidal Silver and it's wonders, Google "Colloidal Silver treatment for HIV" (At least i am not linking you to any website or blog)

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Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by DanseMacabre(m): 4:18pm On Nov 10, 2017
Abimloaded:

Do we have contraceptives for men ? I mean the one men uses to prevent pregnancy and STDs.

Of course sir. What we also call condoms.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by LaaJiblik: 4:33pm On Nov 10, 2017
NovaCare:


This seems to be a timely thread! I was thinking of opening a thread here on the Health Section on the Myths and Realities of HIV/AIDS and ways to manage and combat the pandemic but the workload on me and my various trips has not given me time to do that. Albeit, pending on when i open the thread, let me take the various points you raised so as to enlighten more people about the HIV virus.



Ans: There is something called a "False Positive" and also a "False Negative" in HIV ELISA Tests. I'll explain...

FALSE POSITIVE: When a test is conducted for HIV, a result is determined not by the presence of the HIV virus in the body but by the activities of the antibodies that react to the HIV virus itself! The reactions that culminate to these activities sometimes occur in the body of a HIV negative individual.

These reactions are due to but not limited to the following occurrences:

*Anti-carbohydrate antibodies
*Naturally-occurring antibodies
*Passive immunization: receipt of gamma globulin or immune globulin (as prophylaxis against infection which contains antibodies)
*Renal (kidney) failure
*Flu vaccination
*Malaria
*Pregnancy in multiparous women
*Herpes simplex I and II
*Blood transfusions, multiple blood transfusions
*High levels of circulating immune complexes
*Recent viral infection or exposure to viral vaccines
And many more metabolic reactions which is to numerous to mention. (The ones i listed are the most common and frequent)
All these and many other metabolic occurrences are a huge factor that is responsible for a false positive result in a HIV Negative person.

Receiving a positive ELISA result doesn’t mean that you’re HIV-positive. A small percentage of people may receive a false-positive result, which means the result says you have the virus when you don’t have it. This can happen if the test picks up on other antibodies (which may occur due to any or a combination of the list of events i compiled above) in your system.

All positive results are confirmed with a second test. This is called the Western Blot. This is a more sensitive antibody test. It can take up to a week for you to receive the results of this test. If the result of the Western blot turns up to be positive, then the person is confirmed to be really POSITIVE.

FALSE NEGATIVE (Usually Window Period): The window period is the term to describe the time between an exposure and the point at which an HIV test would show positive. During the window period someone who is infected wirh HIV can have a HIV negative test result.

For 4th generation antigen/antibody tests this period is four weeks for 95% of infections. Because 5% of people take up to three months to develop antibodies a three month window is generally referred to.

Another false negative which is not generally referred to as a false negative is when the person is on an HAART Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Treatment. The ARV drugs stops the rate at which HIV spreads. With prolonged period of ARV treatment, the HIV in the bloodstream dies off but some copies of the HIV hibernate in the body cells and tissues and even organs in the body. Any test following this can come out negative but in theory, the person is still HIV positive because on stopping the ARV treatment, the viruses hibernating in the cells and organs will come out of their hiding places and begin to make more copies of themselves.



HIV is a difficult virus to catch sexually. Even if your partner is HIV positive and you did not use a condom, the risk is usually less than 1 in 100 (less than 1%). However, it only takes one exposure to catch HIV. This means that luck and other factors are involved.

So this means that out of thousands of people who have a risk of catching HIV, some will become positive. For some people this might be from their first risky exposure. HIV is therefore generally a low risk event, but with potentially serious outcomes. Taking an HIV testing to know your HIV status is a good idea.

Viral load is another factor that plays an important role in HIV infection.

Using Aunty Yetunde and Sister Chiamaka which you mentioned as variables, consider this:

>>>Aunty Yetunde who is a prostitute may be using condoms on a steady basis and when not using a condom, it is possible that the men who sleep with her (raw) who are infected have very low copies of the virus in their system.

>>>Sister Chiamaka is a good born again christian. She is a virgin and has never had sex before. She meets a handsome young man who tells her how much he loves her and wants to marry her. This man is HIV positive and does not know it and the copies of the virus (viral load) in him is considerably high. He seduces our Sister Amaka and she gives in and they have unprotected sex...Sister Chiamaka gets infected with HIV.

CAUSE: The man's virus carrying semen was ejaculated into sister chiamaka hence her infection.



HIV is a virus that leads to AIDS if left untreated but it will take a considerably long period of time before this takes effect. The duration of HIV infection to the progression to AIDS varies from individual to individual. For some people, it will take up to 10-20 years while it will take a shorter time in others. It is worthy to note that factors such as Dieting, Lifestyle and environmental factors can play key roles to this duration.

On ARVs leading to AIDS: This is a very important part which i want people to understand...ARV in theory and truth does not really lead to AIDS. But there are some underlying factors...ARVs have what is known as protease inhibitors.

Now the reason for making ARVs is to slow down the process of the HIV Virus from spreading and increasing because the more copies of HIV virus, the more T4 Helper Cell that fight infections decrease which leads to what is known as a low CD4 count. ARVs have what we at NovaCare say is the Good and the UGLY..

The GOOD: It stops the mutation of HIV pathogens making it static as long as the infected person takes them for life...THE UGLY: ARVs are known to have adverse side effects on many HIV patients because it affects vital organs like the liver, pancreas etc.
Since it is a protease inhibitor, there has been many undocumented cases of HIV posing serious dangers on HIV+ people with a condition known as Pancreatitis and other health conditions.

Symptoms of pancreatitis may include abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, constipation, and jaundice. People at more advanced stages of HIV disease and those with previous pancreas problems are at a higher risk for pancreatitis, as are those who have a history of heavy alcohol consumption. Pancreatitis is also associated with elevated levels of blood triglycerides and other fats, which are often seen in people taking protease inhibitors. Increased blood levels of the enzyme amylase may indicate damage to the pancreas and to tell you the truth, this condition is very fatal!

Some other side effects of HAART include:

*Gastrointestinal Side Effects
*Peripheral neuropathy and Paresthesias (Mental and Neurological Side Effects)
*Skin Side Effects such as Rashes, Itching, pruritis, Steven-Johnson Syndrome etc
*Kidney Side Effects such as kidney toxicity, kidney stones, high creatinine levels and and high protein levels which can ultimately lead to kidney failure
*Hyperglycemia and Diabetes which results to the HAART actacking the B-Cells in the pancreas which is responsible for the production of Insulin.

When someone who is HIV+ comes down with a combination of one or more of all these ailment mentioned above, and the person dies...the medical postulation is usually that the person died of AIDS-related complex...




There have been quite a number of documented origins of the HIV virus but the most popular is the theory of its origin a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans according to scientists. They believe that the chimpanzee version of the immunodeficiency virus (called simian immunodeficiency virus or SIV) most likely was transmitted to humans and mutated into HIV when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over decades, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world.



This is certainly the most debated and most controversial point today. There is an iota of truth in the claims that pharmaceutical industries are after financial gains. They know that if HIV which is a NON-RECURRENT infection is conquered, then less money for them. You may ask, "How do Pharmaceutical Companies make money from HIV since the drugs are given FREE OF CHARGE? Well, the truth is this...The Government of many countries (especially in Sub Saharan Africa) allocate specific funding for Health in their annual budget. Part of that money is paid to the World Health Organisations and USAID who in turn give their share to the Pharmaceutical Cartels. We are not talking of thousands or millions BUT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS annually. They use a percentage of these monies to produce the ARVs and live large with the rest.

Helloooo...It's just like what DSTv is doing today...they offer you subscription monthly after you buy their decoder and dish and Gotv...what stops them from offering those channels to you on a pay-off basis by just buying their equipment once and for all? IT'S BECAUSE THE REAL MONEY COMES FROM THE SUBSCRIPTION AND NOT THE SALE OF DECODERS just as the Pharma Cartel gets the bulk of their money from the provision of ARVs and not the cure which they have denied does not exist.


SO IS THERE TRULY A CURE FOR HIV?

HIV is a very cunning virus which once it gains entry into the human body, it begins to infect other cells in the body especially the T-Cells (lymcophytes) These T-Cells are responsible for fighting off infections and diseases. When the number of the cells are reduced, the person is said to have a low CD4 count and becomes susceptible to other ailments which ordinarily would have been taken care of by the body. Ordinarily, most drugs would be able to kill the HIV virus in the bloodstream as this is very easy but what makes HIV hard to treat is the fact that it goes to hide in the organs of the body and when the one in the blood is cleared off via Blood Neutralization and Cleansing protocols and others, the HIV hibernating in the organs will come out of their hiding places and reinfect the blood.

The only way HIV can be EFFECTIVELY TREATED is if it is possible to get a form of medication or antibiotic/antiviral agent which will do the following:

Be introduced in the body in form of a vaccine that on sighting the virus on the onset of infection, it arrests it immediately and prevents it from infecting body cells

Penetrate the protective coating (envelop) of the virus and kill the mitochondrion or RNA of the virus whereby it depletes it totally!

The former has been difficult to achieve but THERE IS AN AGENT THAT DOES THE LATTER WHICH IS SILVER!

Colloidal Silver when generated in very tiny miniscule particles smaller than the HIV virus can successfully penetrate the protective coating of the HIV virus and starve it of oxygen which will eventually kill the virus. The body organs absorb the colloidal silver and it also takes care of the HIV hiding in them WITHOUT AFFECTING THOSE ORGANS unlike the strong HIV drugs which will overtime harm these organs and cells like we saw earlier in my post. But unfortunately, the pharmaceutical cartel see colloidal silver as a threat to their ever booming business and have even banned it in some states in the US. This is because Silver unlike Antibiotics cannot be patented. The Egyptians of old were said to use silver in treating so many ailments during the time of the Pharaohs.

There have been so many undocumented cases of people who turned seropositive to seronegative using silver as treatment for HIV. Silver is a very powerful anti-microbial, anti-fungal, antiviral and antibacterial agent. Though it is sold by very few pharmacies in Nigeria, it is very expensive when available and secondly, most of the Colloidal Silver sold in Nigeria is mostly Ionic and not colloidal. Though Ionic can deal with the infections gotten as a result of suffering from HIV, it cannot effectively kill the virus as colloidal will do. A very good example of Colloidal Silver is Meso-Silver while Mountainwell and ASAP 10 are mostly Ionic.

What's the difference between Ionic and Colloidal Silver: The difference is particle size plus length of generation. If silver particles are suspended in a solution, is is said to be colloidal with very minute particle sizes of about 0.01-0.04nm (nanometer). Ionic silver has silver particles that are not in suspension but dissolved. They can take care of other ailments but not HIV effectively.

NovaCare produces quality Colloidal Silver which is generated under strict conditions and we have been using this (with other herbs) and natural supplements to treat people who are HIV positive with 99.9% success rate.

Colloidal Silver has no side effects as some people are made to believe that it turns people who take it BLUE! The silver that turns people Blue which is a condition known as Argyria are those who take Silver Salts also known as Silver Nitrates. This happens when you drink Colloidal Silver generated with NaCL or Silver solutions with Silver Proteins.

To know more about Colloidal Silver and it's wonders, Google "Colloidal Silver treatment for HIV" (At least i am not linking you to any website or blog)



FANTASTIC!!

I HOWEVER WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU UP ON THE LAST ASPECT OF YOUR CLAIMS








Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by LaaJiblik: 4:38pm On Nov 10, 2017
NovaCare:


This seems to be a timely thread! I was thinking of opening a thread here on the Health Section on the Myths and Realities of HIV/AIDS and ways to manage and combat the pandemic but the workload on me and my various trips has not given me time to do that. Albeit, pending on when i open the thread, let me take the various points you raised so as to enlighten more people about the HIV virus.



Ans: There is something called a "False Positive" and also a "False Negative" in HIV ELISA Tests. I'll explain...

FALSE POSITIVE: When a test is conducted for HIV, a result is determined not by the presence of the HIV virus in the body but by the activities of the antibodies that react to the HIV virus itself! The reactions that culminate to these activities sometimes occur in the body of a HIV negative individual.

These reactions are due to but not limited to the following occurrences:

*Anti-carbohydrate antibodies
*Naturally-occurring antibodies
*Passive immunization: receipt of gamma globulin or immune globulin (as prophylaxis against infection which contains antibodies)
*Renal (kidney) failure
*Flu vaccination
*Malaria
*Pregnancy in multiparous women
*Herpes simplex I and II
*Blood transfusions, multiple blood transfusions
*High levels of circulating immune complexes
*Recent viral infection or exposure to viral vaccines
And many more metabolic reactions which is to numerous to mention. (The ones i listed are the most common and frequent)
All these and many other metabolic occurrences are a huge factor that is responsible for a false positive result in a HIV Negative person.

Receiving a positive ELISA result doesn’t mean that you’re HIV-positive. A small percentage of people may receive a false-positive result, which means the result says you have the virus when you don’t have it. This can happen if the test picks up on other antibodies (which may occur due to any or a combination of the list of events i compiled above) in your system.

All positive results are confirmed with a second test. This is called the Western Blot. This is a more sensitive antibody test. It can take up to a week for you to receive the results of this test. If the result of the Western blot turns up to be positive, then the person is confirmed to be really POSITIVE.

FALSE NEGATIVE (Usually Window Period): The window period is the term to describe the time between an exposure and the point at which an HIV test would show positive. During the window period someone who is infected wirh HIV can have a HIV negative test result.

For 4th generation antigen/antibody tests this period is four weeks for 95% of infections. Because 5% of people take up to three months to develop antibodies a three month window is generally referred to.

Another false negative which is not generally referred to as a false negative is when the person is on an HAART Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Treatment. The ARV drugs stops the rate at which HIV spreads. With prolonged period of ARV treatment, the HIV in the bloodstream dies off but some copies of the HIV hibernate in the body cells and tissues and even organs in the body. Any test following this can come out negative but in theory, the person is still HIV positive because on stopping the ARV treatment, the viruses hibernating in the cells and organs will come out of their hiding places and begin to make more copies of themselves.



HIV is a difficult virus to catch sexually. Even if your partner is HIV positive and you did not use a condom, the risk is usually less than 1 in 100 (less than 1%). However, it only takes one exposure to catch HIV. This means that luck and other factors are involved.

So this means that out of thousands of people who have a risk of catching HIV, some will become positive. For some people this might be from their first risky exposure. HIV is therefore generally a low risk event, but with potentially serious outcomes. Taking an HIV testing to know your HIV status is a good idea.

Viral load is another factor that plays an important role in HIV infection.

Using Aunty Yetunde and Sister Chiamaka which you mentioned as variables, consider this:

>>>Aunty Yetunde who is a prostitute may be using condoms on a steady basis and when not using a condom, it is possible that the men who sleep with her (raw) who are infected have very low copies of the virus in their system.

>>>Sister Chiamaka is a good born again christian. She is a virgin and has never had sex before. She meets a handsome young man who tells her how much he loves her and wants to marry her. This man is HIV positive and does not know it and the copies of the virus (viral load) in him is considerably high. He seduces our Sister Amaka and she gives in and they have unprotected sex...Sister Chiamaka gets infected with HIV.

CAUSE: The man's virus carrying semen was ejaculated into sister chiamaka hence her infection.



HIV is a virus that leads to AIDS if left untreated but it will take a considerably long period of time before this takes effect. The duration of HIV infection to the progression to AIDS varies from individual to individual. For some people, it will take up to 10-20 years while it will take a shorter time in others. It is worthy to note that factors such as Dieting, Lifestyle and environmental factors can play key roles to this duration.

On ARVs leading to AIDS: This is a very important part which i want people to understand...ARV in theory and truth does not really lead to AIDS. But there are some underlying factors...ARVs have what is known as protease inhibitors.

Now the reason for making ARVs is to slow down the process of the HIV Virus from spreading and increasing because the more copies of HIV virus, the more T4 Helper Cell that fight infections decrease which leads to what is known as a low CD4 count. ARVs have what we at NovaCare say is the Good and the UGLY..

The GOOD: It stops the mutation of HIV pathogens making it static as long as the infected person takes them for life...THE UGLY: ARVs are known to have adverse side effects on many HIV patients because it affects vital organs like the liver, pancreas etc.
Since it is a protease inhibitor, there has been many undocumented cases of HIV posing serious dangers on HIV+ people with a condition known as Pancreatitis and other health conditions.

Symptoms of pancreatitis may include abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, constipation, and jaundice. People at more advanced stages of HIV disease and those with previous pancreas problems are at a higher risk for pancreatitis, as are those who have a history of heavy alcohol consumption. Pancreatitis is also associated with elevated levels of blood triglycerides and other fats, which are often seen in people taking protease inhibitors. Increased blood levels of the enzyme amylase may indicate damage to the pancreas and to tell you the truth, this condition is very fatal!

Some other side effects of HAART include:

*Gastrointestinal Side Effects
*Peripheral neuropathy and Paresthesias (Mental and Neurological Side Effects)
*Skin Side Effects such as Rashes, Itching, pruritis, Steven-Johnson Syndrome etc
*Kidney Side Effects such as kidney toxicity, kidney stones, high creatinine levels and and high protein levels which can ultimately lead to kidney failure
*Hyperglycemia and Diabetes which results to the HAART actacking the B-Cells in the pancreas which is responsible for the production of Insulin.

When someone who is HIV+ comes down with a combination of one or more of all these ailment mentioned above, and the person dies...the medical postulation is usually that the person died of AIDS-related complex...




There have been quite a number of documented origins of the HIV virus but the most popular is the theory of its origin a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans according to scientists. They believe that the chimpanzee version of the immunodeficiency virus (called simian immunodeficiency virus or SIV) most likely was transmitted to humans and mutated into HIV when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over decades, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world.



This is certainly the most debated and most controversial point today. There is an iota of truth in the claims that pharmaceutical industries are after financial gains. They know that if HIV which is a NON-RECURRENT infection is conquered, then less money for them. You may ask, "How do Pharmaceutical Companies make money from HIV since the drugs are given FREE OF CHARGE? Well, the truth is this...The Government of many countries (especially in Sub Saharan Africa) allocate specific funding for Health in their annual budget. Part of that money is paid to the World Health Organisations and USAID who in turn give their share to the Pharmaceutical Cartels. We are not talking of thousands or millions BUT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS annually. They use a percentage of these monies to produce the ARVs and live large with the rest.

Helloooo...It's just like what DSTv is doing today...they offer you subscription monthly after you buy their decoder and dish and Gotv...what stops them from offering those channels to you on a pay-off basis by just buying their equipment once and for all? IT'S BECAUSE THE REAL MONEY COMES FROM THE SUBSCRIPTION AND NOT THE SALE OF DECODERS just as the Pharma Cartel gets the bulk of their money from the provision of ARVs and not the cure which they have denied does not exist.


SO IS THERE TRULY A CURE FOR HIV?

HIV is a very cunning virus which once it gains entry into the human body, it begins to infect other cells in the body especially the T-Cells (lymcophytes) These T-Cells are responsible for fighting off infections and diseases. When the number of the cells are reduced, the person is said to have a low CD4 count and becomes susceptible to other ailments which ordinarily would have been taken care of by the body. Ordinarily, most drugs would be able to kill the HIV virus in the bloodstream as this is very easy but what makes HIV hard to treat is the fact that it goes to hide in the organs of the body and when the one in the blood is cleared off via Blood Neutralization and Cleansing protocols and others, the HIV hibernating in the organs will come out of their hiding places and reinfect the blood.

The only way HIV can be EFFECTIVELY TREATED is if it is possible to get a form of medication or antibiotic/antiviral agent which will do the following:

Be introduced in the body in form of a vaccine that on sighting the virus on the onset of infection, it arrests it immediately and prevents it from infecting body cells

Penetrate the protective coating (envelop) of the virus and kill the mitochondrion or RNA of the virus whereby it depletes it totally!

The former has been difficult to achieve but THERE IS AN AGENT THAT DOES THE LATTER WHICH IS SILVER!

Colloidal Silver when generated in very tiny miniscule particles smaller than the HIV virus can successfully penetrate the protective coating of the HIV virus and starve it of oxygen which will eventually kill the virus. The body organs absorb the colloidal silver and it also takes care of the HIV hiding in them WITHOUT AFFECTING THOSE ORGANS unlike the strong HIV drugs which will overtime harm these organs and cells like we saw earlier in my post. But unfortunately, the pharmaceutical cartel see colloidal silver as a threat to their ever booming business and have even banned it in some states in the US. This is because Silver unlike Antibiotics cannot be patented. The Egyptians of old were said to use silver in treating so many ailments during the time of the Pharaohs.

There have been so many undocumented cases of people who turned seropositive to seronegative using silver as treatment for HIV. Silver is a very powerful anti-microbial, anti-fungal, antiviral and antibacterial agent. Though it is sold by very few pharmacies in Nigeria, it is very expensive when available and secondly, most of the Colloidal Silver sold in Nigeria is mostly Ionic and not colloidal. Though Ionic can deal with the infections gotten as a result of suffering from HIV, it cannot effectively kill the virus as colloidal will do. A very good example of Colloidal Silver is Meso-Silver while Mountainwell and ASAP 10 are mostly Ionic.

What's the difference between Ionic and Colloidal Silver: The difference is particle size plus length of generation. If silver particles are suspended in a solution, is is said to be colloidal with very minute particle sizes of about 0.01-0.04nm (nanometer). Ionic silver has silver particles that are not in suspension but dissolved. They can take care of other ailments but not HIV effectively.

NovaCare produces quality Colloidal Silver which is generated under strict conditions and we have been using this (with other herbs) and natural supplements to treat people who are HIV positive with 99.9% success rate.

Colloidal Silver has no side effects as some people are made to believe that it turns people who take it BLUE! The silver that turns people Blue which is a condition known as Argyria are those who take Silver Salts also known as Silver Nitrates. This happens when you drink Colloidal Silver generated with NaCL or Silver solutions with Silver Proteins.

To know more about Colloidal Silver and it's wonders, Google "Colloidal Silver treatment for HIV" (At least i am not linking you to any website or blog)




DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OF IN-VITRO EXPERIMENTS ON THE ANTI-HIV PROPERTIES OF COLLOIDAL SILVER?
EXACTLY WHAT PART OF THE HIV LIFE CYCLE IS THE TARGET?
THE MECHANISM OF ACTION OF THE COLLOIDAL SILVER IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.







Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by peetay(m): 4:39pm On Nov 10, 2017
Good one there. Let those who have eyes and ears, listen and read.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Organs(m): 4:46pm On Nov 10, 2017
LaaJiblik:



Don’t be deceived.
Heterosexuals are also at very great risk. The fact that receptive and Insertive anal sex poses a higher risk does not diminish the risk of getting infected via heterosexual means.


Bros, the google is your friend. Do your research. The gay community is #1.
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Uniquejames(m): 5:25pm On Nov 10, 2017
AreaFada2:


It is just genetics, like lottery. Maybe some of their original ancestors got infected by a virus similar to HIV. So over millenia, some of the population gradually developed resistance by deleting the gene. Perhaps many were wiped out by it and some survived.

But on the other hand we blacks ought to have been at the forefront of HIV research, but we are not. We wait for the West to do all the work. He who does the job controls the narrative. We often complain about the narrative.

Another case is sickle cell. No doubt, West Africans and people of WA descent are most affected. Though other Africans also suffer from it.
It is not all conspiracy.
Remember too that whatever illness one has, poor nutrition, poor healthcare system and poverty make it worse. These factors affect us more too. And they are things that we ought to be able to change too.

thanks for the insight areafada.

for u to mention its not all conspiracy shows that an iota of u knows something like that might be in existence..

its all God's grace that we live to see another day!
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by Spicy128(f): 5:29pm On Nov 10, 2017
Hiv is very real, I work in an ART Clinic I interract with people living with this virus on a daily basis
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by LaaJiblik: 5:42pm On Nov 10, 2017
Organs:



Bros, the google is your friend. Do your research. The gay community is #1.


Who is number 2?
And 3?
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by boiz2men(m): 6:36pm On Nov 10, 2017
NovaCare:


This seems to be a timely thread! I was thinking of opening a thread here on the Health Section on the Myths and Realities of HIV/AIDS and ways to manage and combat the pandemic but the workload on me and my various trips has not given me time to do that. Albeit, pending on when i open the thread, let me take the various points you raised so as to enlighten more people about the HIV virus.



Ans: There is something called a "False Positive" and also a "False Negative" in HIV ELISA Tests. I'll explain...

FALSE POSITIVE: When a test is conducted for HIV, a result is determined not by the presence of the HIV virus in the body but by the activities of the antibodies that react to the HIV virus itself! The reactions that culminate to these activities sometimes occur in the body of a HIV negative individual.

These reactions are due to but not limited to the following occurrences:

*Anti-carbohydrate antibodies
*Naturally-occurring antibodies
*Passive immunization: receipt of gamma globulin or immune globulin (as prophylaxis against infection which contains antibodies)
*Renal (kidney) failure
*Flu vaccination
*Malaria
*Pregnancy in multiparous women
*Herpes simplex I and II
*Blood transfusions, multiple blood transfusions
*High levels of circulating immune complexes
*Recent viral infection or exposure to viral vaccines
And many more metabolic reactions which is to numerous to mention. (The ones i listed are the most common and frequent)
All these and many other metabolic occurrences are a huge factor that is responsible for a false positive result in a HIV Negative person.

Receiving a positive ELISA result doesn’t mean that you’re HIV-positive. A small percentage of people may receive a false-positive result, which means the result says you have the virus when you don’t have it. This can happen if the test picks up on other antibodies (which may occur due to any or a combination of the list of events i compiled above) in your system.

All positive results are confirmed with a second test. This is called the Western Blot. This is a more sensitive antibody test. It can take up to a week for you to receive the results of this test. If the result of the Western blot turns up to be positive, then the person is confirmed to be really POSITIVE.

FALSE NEGATIVE (Usually Window Period): The window period is the term to describe the time between an exposure and the point at which an HIV test would show positive. During the window period someone who is infected wirh HIV can have a HIV negative test result.

For 4th generation antigen/antibody tests this period is four weeks for 95% of infections. Because 5% of people take up to three months to develop antibodies a three month window is generally referred to.

Another false negative which is not generally referred to as a false negative is when the person is on an HAART Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Treatment. The ARV drugs stops the rate at which HIV spreads. With prolonged period of ARV treatment, the HIV in the bloodstream dies off but some copies of the HIV hibernate in the body cells and tissues and even organs in the body. Any test following this can come out negative but in theory, the person is still HIV positive because on stopping the ARV treatment, the viruses hibernating in the cells and organs will come out of their hiding places and begin to make more copies of themselves.



HIV is a difficult virus to catch sexually. Even if your partner is HIV positive and you did not use a condom, the risk is usually less than 1 in 100 (less than 1%). However, it only takes one exposure to catch HIV. This means that luck and other factors are involved.

So this means that out of thousands of people who have a risk of catching HIV, some will become positive. For some people this might be from their first risky exposure. HIV is therefore generally a low risk event, but with potentially serious outcomes. Taking an HIV testing to know your HIV status is a good idea.

Viral load is another factor that plays an important role in HIV infection.

Using Aunty Yetunde and Sister Chiamaka which you mentioned as variables, consider this:

>>>Aunty Yetunde who is a prostitute may be using condoms on a steady basis and when not using a condom, it is possible that the men who sleep with her (raw) who are infected have very low copies of the virus in their system.

>>>Sister Chiamaka is a good born again christian. She is a virgin and has never had sex before. She meets a handsome young man who tells her how much he loves her and wants to marry her. This man is HIV positive and does not know it and the copies of the virus (viral load) in him is considerably high. He seduces our Sister Amaka and she gives in and they have unprotected sex...Sister Chiamaka gets infected with HIV.

CAUSE: The man's virus carrying semen was ejaculated into sister chiamaka hence her infection.



HIV is a virus that leads to AIDS if left untreated but it will take a considerably long period of time before this takes effect. The duration of HIV infection to the progression to AIDS varies from individual to individual. For some people, it will take up to 10-20 years while it will take a shorter time in others. It is worthy to note that factors such as Dieting, Lifestyle and environmental factors can play key roles to this duration.

On ARVs leading to AIDS: This is a very important part which i want people to understand...ARV in theory and truth does not really lead to AIDS. But there are some underlying factors...ARVs have what is known as protease inhibitors.

Now the reason for making ARVs is to slow down the process of the HIV Virus from spreading and increasing because the more copies of HIV virus, the more T4 Helper Cell that fight infections decrease which leads to what is known as a low CD4 count. ARVs have what we at NovaCare say is the Good and the UGLY..

The GOOD: It stops the mutation of HIV pathogens making it static as long as the infected person takes them for life...THE UGLY: ARVs are known to have adverse side effects on many HIV patients because it affects vital organs like the liver, pancreas etc.
Since it is a protease inhibitor, there has been many undocumented cases of HIV posing serious dangers on HIV+ people with a condition known as Pancreatitis and other health conditions.

Symptoms of pancreatitis may include abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, constipation, and jaundice. People at more advanced stages of HIV disease and those with previous pancreas problems are at a higher risk for pancreatitis, as are those who have a history of heavy alcohol consumption. Pancreatitis is also associated with elevated levels of blood triglycerides and other fats, which are often seen in people taking protease inhibitors. Increased blood levels of the enzyme amylase may indicate damage to the pancreas and to tell you the truth, this condition is very fatal!

Some other side effects of HAART include:

*Gastrointestinal Side Effects
*Peripheral neuropathy and Paresthesias (Mental and Neurological Side Effects)
*Skin Side Effects such as Rashes, Itching, pruritis, Steven-Johnson Syndrome etc
*Kidney Side Effects such as kidney toxicity, kidney stones, high creatinine levels and and high protein levels which can ultimately lead to kidney failure
*Hyperglycemia and Diabetes which results to the HAART actacking the B-Cells in the pancreas which is responsible for the production of Insulin.

When someone who is HIV+ comes down with a combination of one or more of all these ailment mentioned above, and the person dies...the medical postulation is usually that the person died of AIDS-related complex...




There have been quite a number of documented origins of the HIV virus but the most popular is the theory of its origin a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans according to scientists. They believe that the chimpanzee version of the immunodeficiency virus (called simian immunodeficiency virus or SIV) most likely was transmitted to humans and mutated into HIV when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over decades, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world.



This is certainly the most debated and most controversial point today. There is an iota of truth in the claims that pharmaceutical industries are after financial gains. They know that if HIV which is a NON-RECURRENT infection is conquered, then less money for them. You may ask, "How do Pharmaceutical Companies make money from HIV since the drugs are given FREE OF CHARGE? Well, the truth is this...The Government of many countries (especially in Sub Saharan Africa) allocate specific funding for Health in their annual budget. Part of that money is paid to the World Health Organisations and USAID who in turn give their share to the Pharmaceutical Cartels. We are not talking of thousands or millions BUT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS annually. They use a percentage of these monies to produce the ARVs and live large with the rest.

Helloooo...It's just like what DSTv is doing today...they offer you subscription monthly after you buy their decoder and dish and Gotv...what stops them from offering those channels to you on a pay-off basis by just buying their equipment once and for all? IT'S BECAUSE THE REAL MONEY COMES FROM THE SUBSCRIPTION AND NOT THE SALE OF DECODERS just as the Pharma Cartel gets the bulk of their money from the provision of ARVs and not the cure which they have denied does not exist.


SO IS THERE TRULY A CURE FOR HIV?

HIV is a very cunning virus which once it gains entry into the human body, it begins to infect other cells in the body especially the T-Cells (lymcophytes) These T-Cells are responsible for fighting off infections and diseases. When the number of the cells are reduced, the person is said to have a low CD4 count and becomes susceptible to other ailments which ordinarily would have been taken care of by the body. Ordinarily, most drugs would be able to kill the HIV virus in the bloodstream as this is very easy but what makes HIV hard to treat is the fact that it goes to hide in the organs of the body and when the one in the blood is cleared off via Blood Neutralization and Cleansing protocols and others, the HIV hibernating in the organs will come out of their hiding places and reinfect the blood.

The only way HIV can be EFFECTIVELY TREATED is if it is possible to get a form of medication or antibiotic/antiviral agent which will do the following:

Be introduced in the body in form of a vaccine that on sighting the virus on the onset of infection, it arrests it immediately and prevents it from infecting body cells

Penetrate the protective coating (envelop) of the virus and kill the mitochondrion or RNA of the virus whereby it depletes it totally!

The former has been difficult to achieve but THERE IS AN AGENT THAT DOES THE LATTER WHICH IS SILVER!

Colloidal Silver when generated in very tiny miniscule particles smaller than the HIV virus can successfully penetrate the protective coating of the HIV virus and starve it of oxygen which will eventually kill the virus. The body organs absorb the colloidal silver and it also takes care of the HIV hiding in them WITHOUT AFFECTING THOSE ORGANS unlike the strong HIV drugs which will overtime harm these organs and cells like we saw earlier in my post. But unfortunately, the pharmaceutical cartel see colloidal silver as a threat to their ever booming business and have even banned it in some states in the US. This is because Silver unlike Antibiotics cannot be patented. The Egyptians of old were said to use silver in treating so many ailments during the time of the Pharaohs.

There have been so many undocumented cases of people who turned seropositive to seronegative using silver as treatment for HIV. Silver is a very powerful anti-microbial, anti-fungal, antiviral and antibacterial agent. Though it is sold by very few pharmacies in Nigeria, it is very expensive when available and secondly, most of the Colloidal Silver sold in Nigeria is mostly Ionic and not colloidal. Though Ionic can deal with the infections gotten as a result of suffering from HIV, it cannot effectively kill the virus as colloidal will do. A very good example of Colloidal Silver is Meso-Silver while Mountainwell and ASAP 10 are mostly Ionic.

What's the difference between Ionic and Colloidal Silver: The difference is particle size plus length of generation. If silver particles are suspended in a solution, is is said to be colloidal with very minute particle sizes of about 0.01-0.04nm (nanometer). Ionic silver has silver particles that are not in suspension but dissolved. They can take care of other ailments but not HIV effectively.

NovaCare produces quality Colloidal Silver which is generated under strict conditions and we have been using this (with other herbs) and natural supplements to treat people who are HIV positive with 99.9% success rate.

Colloidal Silver has no side effects as some people are made to believe that it turns people who take it BLUE! The silver that turns people Blue which is a condition known as Argyria are those who take Silver Salts also known as Silver Nitrates. This happens when you drink Colloidal Silver generated with NaCL or Silver solutions with Silver Proteins.

To know more about Colloidal Silver and it's wonders, Google "Colloidal Silver treatment for HIV" (At least i am not linking you to any website or blog)











read this fitnessdoctor

well explained............ a person is said to have AIDS when their CD4 count falls below 200.... for the most part.



lets paint a piicture


imagine if boko haram infiltrated the Nigeria Army and killed most of her members and then wore their camouflage so that the govt doesnt see it as an enemy... The military member strength reduces, camouflaged boko haram members increases.. the govt is confused... a small threat from a local champion in your ghana keeps the whole of nigeria under tension. the military should arrest this menace but it isnt powerful anymore... boko haram despite wearing the Nigeria camouflage just folds their hands so the local champion destablizes nigeria without restraint.


ARV drugs weakens and stops boko haram from killing more soldieers
Re: HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Theories: Do You Believe The Virus Is Real? by NovaCare: 10:50pm On Nov 10, 2017
boiz2men:




read this fitnessdoctor

well explained............ a person is said to have AIDS when their CD4 count falls below 200.... for the most part.



lets paint a piicture


imagine if boko haram infiltrated the Nigeria Army and killed most of her members and then wore their camouflage so that the govt doesnt see it as an enemy... The military member strength reduces, camouflaged boko haram members increases.. the govt is confused... a small threat from a local champion in your ghana keeps the whole of nigeria under tension. the military should arrest this menace but it isnt powerful anymore... boko haram despite wearing the Nigeria camouflage just folds their hands so the local champion destablizes nigeria without restraint.


ARV drugs weakens and stops boko haram from killing more soldieers

Lol! Very nice analogy.

And using this your analogy, Colloidal Silver is like French Gendarme Soldiers. They come into the camp where Boko Haram soldiers are and do two things. First of all, they wear Night vision glasses and heat sensors plus special equipment which makes them distinguish between the real Nigerian Soldiers and Boko Haram camouflaged fighters and detect their movement in buildings (cells and tissues) from the outside. There are some supplements like OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT, OREGANO OIL amongst many others who are like mercenary soldiers from cameroon which accompany the french gendarmes (colloidal silver) to the camp (body). The job those supplements is to quickly go into the buildings where the boko haram fighters (HIV) are hiding and bring them out for the French Gendarmes (Colloidal Silver) to finish them off while it is dealing with the ones outside the buildings. Vitamin D3 supplement is like the Red Cross...they go and check for the Nigerian Soldiers which still have the sign of life in them and revive them by giving them first aid and also introduces more Nigerian Soldier hiding in their red cross vehicle. The revived soldiers (T Helper cells) plus the new enlisted ones now join Colloidal Silver to attack the Boko Haram soldiers until they are all killed. Then Both the French Army, the Cameroonian Army, and some other antioxidants (military police and civilian JTF) will cut the dead bodies of the Boko Haram (HIV) to tiny pieces and burn them to ashes, pack the ashes and throw them into a nearest river. The civilians ( the patient's body cells, blood corpuscles, membranes etc) which were once living in the town (body) would them come out of their refugee camps and begin to rebuild the town until it becomes as vibrant as it was before Boko Haram infiltrated it.

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