kevoh:

1. Assuming this happened, Jesus was probably high and hallucinating or in a state of delirium, that he was being commanded to eat stones, hunger will do that to you if you decide to starve yourself for forty days. who send am message not to eat?

2. How are we sure this event happened? Who among the writers of this particular story was there with him when it happened? How are we sure this Jew, was not fabricating some story of him being asked to turn stones to bread, as only the Bible with it's many contradictions is the only book that validates it?

Acidosis:


This is the exact thing Apostle Suleiman said. You are not a Christian and you think you have an opinion about how the Church should be managed?



You are sick.

bedspread:
MY PEOPLE PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE......

I DONT CARE WHETHER MY PASTOR OR WHOEVER EATS MY TITHE OR NOT...

I KNOW WHERE I WAS WEN I DECIEVED MYSELF AND JOKED THINKING I WAS BEING SMART WITH NOT PAYING.

I KNOW WHERE I AM @ THIS POINT IN MY LIFE NOW THAT AM CONSISTENTLY TITHING....

ITS A CHOICE...... ITS YOUR CHOICE..

ACCEPTING JESUS CHRIST IS THE GREATEST GOOD U CAN DO TO YOURSELF.... ONCE YOU HAVE JESUS CHRIST, ALL THESE TITHE TALKINGS WILL MEAN NOTHING TO U..

jonnytad:
I see many Muslims jumping on this post...... avenue to criticise Christianity abi? Freeze, wait till God get to your file.

Thinkfree:

Some of you think paying tithe will increase your broke ass in wealth forgetting the fact that the world has millions of billionaires that don't pay tithe.

Obi1kenobi:


What kind of absurd straw man argument is this? And you're talking about "laughable"?
What do you mean by "force"? With a gun? Clearly not. Nobody is insinuating that fallacious rubbish. With subtle invocations of curses to non-adherents and repeated stressing and reinforcement of twisted messages tying material progress to what is "sown", accusations of "robbery" (with the famous Malachi quote), and even threatened public humiliation (registering, documenting and numbering tithers for easier tracking and telling tithers to stand in church for blessings and all that so non-tithers feel left out) and public ostracism (refusal to sanction prayers and consultations, weddings, funerals etc for non-tithers), there is a long list of clever machinations designed to compel the flock to give. You're fooling yourself pretending this does not happen. I was a faithful adherent of a Pentecostal church before my crisis of faith and I know and have witnessed every trick in the book designed to compel people to give.

IamtherealRita:
This is actually an opportunity for these Pastors to repent from their unfaithfull life to God

How can you claim to be man of God and be collecting tithe and offering

Jesus never pay or collect tithe and offering, He lived by faith trusting God for all his need

The Apostles never collect tithe or offering demonstrating the life of Christ which is an example for every Christian who wish to be a follower of Christ (Christian)

Any man who collect tithe and offering is not living by faith in Christ Jesus and so can not be an example for any Christian.

I don't know Daddy Freeze, but from all indications he seems to know what the scripture says even more than all RCCG, Living Faith Pastors and their likes who capitalised on the tithe and offering issues

Obi1kenobi:


Almost all non-believers are from religious backgrounds. I know someone from UNN who was a pastor and now an atheist. Don't kid yourself thinking you know better than them just because you're Christian. It's about as silly as saying politicians should be immune from criticism from those who are not politicians.

Topgainer:
Pastorpreneurs are writing a new Bible that will answer all of the questions. Excerpts from the proposed Book of tithe to be included in the revised new testament.
Verse 1. If it is not your field you dare not put mouth. Daddy Freeze should shut up and allow the ordained Levites collect and manage that money.

2. You dare not ask the Daddy Papa how he used the money.
Verse 3. you shall allow God to judge the usuage because it doesn't concern you.
Verse 4. If you are not paying you shall get divine curses from Jesus
Verse 5. If you are not paying, you shall not dissuade those obeying the command afterall it is not your money.
Verse 6. I tithe, come and beat me.
Verse 7. Unto you Christians it is given this law to bring all the money tithe to the Pastor and his Church Center.
Verse 8. The Pastor is hereby commanded to use it to build Universities, estates, businesses and corporations for the Lord.
Verse 9. The Pastor must ensure that tithe cards and registers are printed and issued out to all Christians. Defaulters shall not be allowed to wed, be buried or have the Church attend to them.
Verse 10. Anybody who questions the status quo shall die.

Obi1kenobi:


Almost all non-believers are from religious backgrounds. I know someone from UNN who was a pastor and now an atheist. Don't kid yourself thinking you know better than them just because you're Christian. It's about as silly as saying politicians should be immune from criticism from those who are not politicians.

emeijeh:

sainty2k3:
I have never seen anyone forced to pay tithe at gun point. If you are not convinced , go away and enjoy your money in the bar as you have been doing. Who cares. It is also highly discriminatory and you will be committing same crime if you tag people paying there Titihe as fools , ignorant or 'sheeple' . let everyone continue has they have been convinced. Some people are convinced there is no God , you didn't spend energy convincing them

Acidosis:
I don't get you, you want to serve God with your life, without serving Him with your resources?

If you cannot serve God with your resources (time and money), then you are not a Christian.

You left the Church because you feel "bad" that your pastor blessed people who come out to pay their tithes? What about the other prayers your pastor rendered on behalf of the entire congregation? Is that not enough?

IamtherealRita:
This is actually an opportunity for these Pastors to repent from their unfaithfull life to God

How can you claim to be man of God and be collecting tithe and offering

Jesus never pay or collect tithe and offering, He lived by faith trusting God for all his need

The Apostles never collect tithe or offering demonstrating the life of Christ which is an example for every Christian who wish to be a follower of Christ (Christian)

Any man who collect tithe and offering is not living by faith in Christ Jesus and so can not be an example for any Christian.

I don't know Daddy Freeze, but from all indications he seems to know what the scripture says even more than all RCCG, Living Faith Pastors and their likes who capitalised on the tithe and offering issues

lloyds:
If you are a born again child of God, giving back to God 10% of income shouldn't be a burden to you. Infact u will be willing to give more.

Interesting15:

He knows what the Bible says, but he divorced his wife?

He knows what the Bible says, but he is sleeping around with a woman he isn't married to?

You guys are jokers.

Acidosis:


I don't get you, you want to serve God with your life, without serving Him with your resources?

If you cannot serve God with your resources (time and money), then you are not a Christian.

You left the Church because you feel "bad" that your pastor blessed people who come out to pay their tithes? What about the other prayers your pastor rendered on behalf of the entire congregation? Is that not enough?

seguno2:


Since when did a pastorpreneur = God?

seguno2:


What is the address of God and His bank account number for receiving the 10%?

seguno2:


Since when did a pastorpreneur = God?

ogologoamu:



Jesus collected offering even from a poor widow (widow's mite), pls get your facts right read Luke 21 down.

If your daddy freezer knows the scripture as you claim, where's his wife?.

IamtherealRita:
This is actually an opportunity for these Pastors to repent from their unfaithfull life to God

How can you claim to be man of God and be collecting tithe and offering

Jesus never pay or collect tithe and offering, He lived by faith trusting God for all his need

The Apostles never collect tithe or offering demonstrating the life of Christ which is an example for every Christian who wish to be a follower of Christ (Christian)

Any man who collect tithe and offering is not living by faith in Christ Jesus and so can not be an example for any Christian.

I don't know Daddy Freeze, but from all indications he seems to know what the scripture says even more than all RCCG, Living Faith Pastors and their likes who capitalised on the tithe and offering issues

Acidosis:


I don't get you, you want to serve God with your life, without serving Him with your resources?

If you cannot serve God with your resources (time and money), then you are not a Christian.

You left the Church because you feel "bad" that your pastor blessed people who come out to pay their tithes? What about the other prayers your pastor rendered on behalf of the entire congregation? Is that not enough?

aribisala0:
Paying tithes is your definition of serving God ith your resources?

Did Jesus say that?
Jesus suggested giving directly to the poor,feeding the and clothing them.
That is the correct way to serve God with your resources

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PrecisionFx:



Pastors n other men of God force people to pay tithe.

Like I said before in my last post, the Bible is clear on how to pay tithe, every Christian must follow Bible teachings n not pastors false teachings.

EliteBiz:
Most churches dis days are business centre to be sincere, unfortunately, most people prefer this business centre to good churches this days, meanwhile, daddyfreeze or whatever, tread softly......U are attacking both the true and fake men of God, because of the few true Men of God, God might decide to punish you, tread softly, I am not saying Apostle Suleiman is fake or true sha

Acidosis:


This is how you people f00l yourselves. You think paying our tithes stop us from giving to the poor?


Anyone that can boldly pay 10% of his eanings to a place he/she spends barely 5hrs weekly can give anything out of compassion.

It is people like you who love to take from the Church instead of giving that usually finds it difficult to give to your relatives, the poor and orphanage.

For your information, most orphanages in Nigeria today were built by Christians.

aribisala0:

Where were all these people when the boy in that picture was being rescued?

Thhose peoplegiving 10% are giving BECAUSE of what they expect to get in return >There is noo compassion in them.

How many comunities in Nigeria feel the economic or social impact of these tithes or churches

I have visited several churches in the UK and I remember Catholic priest telling the congregation what they have been doingwih their money including sending money to victims of Boko Haram in Nigeria this was when GEJ was in office. Ours use the oney for their enjoyment

lloyds:
By the time God exposes himself to this man freeze, he most may even become a pastor at the end.
Then, he would understand many deep things

EliteBiz:
Most churches dis days are business centre to be sincere, unfortunately, most people prefer this business centre to good churches this days, meanwhile, daddyfreeze or whatever, tread softly......U are attacking both the true and fake men of God, because of the few true Men of God, God might decide to punish you, tread softly, I am not saying Apostle Suleiman is fake or true sha