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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:08am On Nov 12, 2017
Joebie:
We need to save Oshaniwa's career grin

It is about building our best instead of waiting for foreign club coaches to make the decision for us. Oshaniwa played well for us and deserved better. While facing his challenges in the club, the National team handlers repaid his hard work and service with an unfair treatment.

Abandoning him helped create the vacuum we are still facing in that position.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:15am On Nov 12, 2017
Joebie:
We need to save Oshaniwa's career grin

30th March. What carried you there?

By the way, with Rohr having Oshaniwa in camp, playing him in a scrimmage game with the Super Eagles, Rohr earned my respect.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 2:12am On Nov 12, 2017
But my comment didn't say you did or you read wrongly?

And no, he wasn't head and shoulders above Elderson two days ago, not passing any judgement yet until he plays full time on a decent pitch.

Calling this performance head and shoulders above Elderson is an insult to all the years Elderson gave the NT bar recent form.
Icon79:
Omo, did you hear me anywhere said that he Aina was fantastic? Please read again, I called him "a decent LB." No, he wasn't fantastic but, based on what I saw yesterday, he was head and shoulders above Echiejile, both offensively and defensively. And you gotta consider that this is his real debut .... I wouldn't count the previous two cameo appearances.


O pari

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 2:14am On Nov 12, 2017
I was expecting you to tell us where and when Iheanacho pressed defenders, you're drifting to Ighalo. So it was Mikel pushing the defenders backwards and no longer Iheanacho?

Okay, kontinu
TheGoodJoe:


In the last game Ighalo played for Nigeria, Mikel Obi had to carry most of the loads to do the pressing. Ighalo could not meet up. When Mikel is pressing for you, you have a problem.

It is not even up for debate. When it comes to pressing, Nacho rules for the Super Eagles.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:52am On Nov 12, 2017
Personally, I would prefer a midfield combo of: Mikel-Ndidi-Etebo (with Mikel partnering Ndidi in the DM and Etebo as the CM), but this last game hasn't really helped Etebo's cause. However, I would like to see Etebo play CM when Mikel (or a true playmaker) is on the field.

Having said all that, I think that Rohr would stick with Onazi-Ndidi-Mikel combo in Russia. And I won't blame him either, though I still have concerns over Onazi's rough tackles. I am afraid that the Euro refs would punish such tackles ... esp if they feel that Nigeria is playing well.


O pari

Danielnino00:
Do you think the Ndidi-Onazi-Mikel midfield combo should be Rohr first choice in Russia??
If not, who would u rather like to see in the midfield??





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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:56am On Nov 12, 2017
Please you guys should stop that nonsense about Ogu having an impressive performance yesterday. His goal was fantastic but his play was mostly mediocre .... poor first touches, erratic passes, poor decision making etc etc.

Whomever gave him the MOtM should be BANNED from reporting about soccer!


O pari

TheGoodJoe:


I will decide after the game against Argentina. If Ogu pulls another impressive game out of his hat, then we will be doing ourselves a disservice playing Onazi ahead of Ogu.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 3:00am On Nov 12, 2017
Bros, Aina gives me a lot more confidence playing that position than Elderson. And this is not to diminish everything Chiejiele has done in the national team, but Aina is definitely an upgrade on him.


O pari

somehow:
But my comment didn't say you did or you read wrongly?

And no, he wasn't head and shoulders above Elderson two days ago, not passing any judgement yet until he plays full time on a decent pitch.

Calling this performance head and shoulders above Elderson is an insult to all the years Elderson gave the NT bar recent form.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:02am On Nov 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I will decide after the game against Argentina. If Ogu pulls another impressive game out of his hat, then we will be doing ourselves a disservice playing Onazi ahead of Ogu.

Onazi work output is terribly underrated. Over 2 legs against Cameroon, Onazi was one of the best players.

I think Ndidi-Onazi-Mikel is probably still the best combo.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:03am On Nov 12, 2017
Danielnino00:
Do you think the Ndidi-Onazi-Mikel midfield combo should be Rohr first choice in Russia??
If not, who would u rather like to see in the midfield??





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Simply put resounding YES.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 3:17am On Nov 12, 2017
Well I haven't seen that yet until Tuesday and subsequent matches for the SE.

He's still young and has enough time to prove himself SE wise.
Icon79:
Bros, Aina gives me a lot more confidence playing that position than Elderson. And this is not to diminish everything Chiejiele has done in the national team, but Aina is definitely an upgrade on him.


O pari

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:54am On Nov 12, 2017
Icon79:
Please you guys should stop that nonsense about Ogu having an impressive performance yesterday. His goal was fantastic but his play was mostly mediocre .... poor first touches, erratic passes, poor decision making etc etc.

Whomever gave him the MOtM should be BANNED from reporting about soccer!


O pari


I have seen four sites giving Ogu man of the match and you feel they are all fools. I and some on the thread hinted it before the ratings. He was our best on the field. I actually watched the game with a former Sharks FC player. He even hinted Ogu was going to score.

The goal was just a testament of his good play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 4:41am On Nov 12, 2017
Icon79:
Please you guys should stop that nonsense about Ogu having an impressive performance yesterday. His goal was fantastic but his play was mostly mediocre .... poor first touches, erratic passes, poor decision making etc etc.

Whomever gave him the MOtM should be BANNED from reporting about soccer!


O pari


Go back and watch the match again without the initial tension with which you first watched it with. Ogu put in an impressive performance. I didnt see the match live but I saw the replay and did my scrutiny and I dont give easy credit and I confidently say Ogu was great against Algeria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 4:47am On Nov 12, 2017
tbaba1234:


Onazi work output is terribly underrated. Over 2 legs against Cameroon, Onazi was one of the best players.

I think Ndidi-Onazi-Mikel is probably still the best combo.

Ogu is a better ball player with great aerial ability and can score ,too. In addition to these attributes he is equally a fighter just like Onazi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:30am On Nov 12, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Ogu is a better ball player with great aerial ability and can score ,too. In addition to these attributes he is equally a fighter just like Onazi

Ogu is not a better tackler and does not cover as much ground as Onazi. He does not have great aerial ability and does not score often. Yes, he scored a great goal but it is not as if he has a great scoring rate.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 7:08am On Nov 12, 2017
Ogu and onazi comparison is a clear one,onazi is a better player in terms of work rate,tackling,brute,shields d back four better, d only thing ogu has over onazi is d eye for goal,WC comes once in a wyle,not known for scoring as such.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:39am On Nov 12, 2017
Joebie:
Rohr List Areas Super Eagles Need More Options Ahead World Cup 2018 in Russia
November 11, 2017



The Super Eagles of Nigeria is still a work in progress according to coach of the team Gernot Rohr despite their unbeaten run in the World Cup 2018 Qualifiers.

Nigeria ended a successful qualifiers yesterday by drawing 1-1 against Algeria in Constantine yesterday despite not playing six players who are considered by the coach as the spine of the team.

Despite the fine performance of the fringe players Rohr insist there are areas where he still needs more options and in some case improvements by the players in the team.

” We are still going to keep working on the team, there are areas we still have concerns and more work to do. Also we open to new players in some areas “, Rohr said.

” In defence, attack and also in the midfield, but it’s more of working with those we have now to make it work in the midfield. The best team possible is what we hope to parade in Russia”, he concluded.

OGN

We are underachievers at set pieces judging from this picture.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:22am On Nov 12, 2017
Joebie:
hater

I don't think he hates Tammy....I watched bit of the match too....
he wasn't imposing and the play was barely average....
players like loftus cheek, tipper and co played better....Germany would have won that match....

from all I could see....I think he may likely not make Southgate world cup sqaud..
moreover if the coach and the FA are really serious....England can likely win the next world cup in Russia....
or better still Qatar 2022...
if only they can translate the progress of their youth teams to their main national team

I dont see Germany winning....next world cup....
to me....Spain, England, belguim (though the coach tactics still a suspect of which they can flop against a highly tactical south America side) and Brazil....winning it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:26am On Nov 12, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


We are underachievers at set pieces judging from this picture.
I think with the presence of mikel...it will be better....
players like ekong and Leon should be allowed to go forward whenever we have corner kicks...with onazi covering the backline in their absence...

and the set piece I think should be left for nacho and Moses Simon and not Victor Moses........

he really impressed me with the ones he took in Constantine
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:55am On Nov 12, 2017
Please guys, how many natural LB and RB do we have in camp?

Also apart from Mikel and maybe a makeshift Iwobi, who can play the creative/attacking midfielding position for us currently in camp?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:05am On Nov 12, 2017
somehow:
Please guys, how many natural LB and RB do we have in camp?

Also apart from Mikel and maybe a makeshift Iwobi, who can play the creative/attacking midfielding position for us currently in camp?
right now...we have 3 RB....shehu,ebuehi and aina and for LB...we have just idowu. and iwobi playing AM....that one is left to rohr who still keep fielding etebo there...

I wish I can talk to him.....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 9:20am On Nov 12, 2017
somehow:
I was expecting you to tell us where and when Iheanacho pressed defenders, you're drifting to Ighalo. So it was Mikel pushing the defenders backwards and no longer Iheanacho?

Okay, kontinu
He is right, Iheanacho presses more then Ighalo. Watch the Nigeria vs Algeria in uyo. Matter of fact, Ighalo plays like he is trying to conserve energy for the kill.

In the match thegoodjoe referenced, Iheanacho wasn't on the pitch when Mikel was doing the pressing.

Ighalo is my choice to lead the attack but if we are playing a team with ball playing defenders that like to build from defence, then we'll need a workaholic midfielder like etebo to do the pressing which may leave us disadvantaged when it comes to creativity.

It would be in everybody's interest if Ighalo adds that to his play.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:39am On Nov 12, 2017
Lot of competition in the fullback roles idowu vs elchejile for left back Shehu Vs Aina vs ebuehi for right back
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:44am On Nov 12, 2017
Danielnino00:
Do you think the Ndidi-Onazi-Mikel midfield combo should be Rohr first choice in Russia??
If not, who would u rather like to see in the midfield??





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It still is.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:46am On Nov 12, 2017
isan:
Lot of competition in the fullback roles idowu vs elchejile for left back Shehu Vs Aina vs ebuehi for right back

There is no competition at RB. Shehu it is.

Where there is competition is LB. Echiejile and Aina. I cannot throw Idowu into the picture yet because I have not seen him play.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:55am On Nov 12, 2017
Very simple, can you post stats here to support your notion? Stats like "fouls drawn" by both of them. That should settle this.

BTW, why only Nigeria vs Algeria match or is that the only match we have played?
SerVik:

He is right, Iheanacho presses more then Ighalo. Watch the Nigeria vs Algeria in uyo. Matter of fact, Ighalo plays like he is trying to conserve energy for the kill.

In the match thegoodjoe referenced, Iheanacho wasn't on the pitch when Mikel was doing the pressing.

Ighalo is my choice to lead the attack but if we are playing a team with ball playing defenders that like to build from defence, then we'll need a workaholic midfielder like etebo to do the pressing which may leave us disadvantaged when it comes to creativity.

It would be in everybody's interest if Ighalo adds that to his play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:07am On Nov 12, 2017
So we still have issues covering the LB position...(natural LB). I thought Idowu was a LCD? Is he fast enough for the LB position?

I wish Aina was naturally left legged, using a makeshift RB and LB has many disavantages when you face demonic forwards who can turn and twist life out of you.

I'm just afraid of life without Mikel in the worldcup proper incase he picks up an injury, who replaces him? Iwobi can't do that job, he can't hold balls for long.

I wish I can also talk to Rohr, Joel Obi is needed badly.
Humility017:

right now...we have 3 RB....shehu,ebuehi and aina and for LB...we have just idowu. and iwobi playing AM....that one is left to rohr who still keep fielding etebo there...

I wish I can talk to him.....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 10:26am On Nov 12, 2017
England call up solanke for their upcoming game against Brazil, forgiveness I hope you can rest now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:31am On Nov 12, 2017
Icon79:
Personally, I would prefer a midfield combo of: Mikel-Ndidi-Etebo (with Mikel partnering Ndidi in the DM and Etebo as the CM), but this last game hasn't really helped Etebo's cause. However, I would like to see Etebo play CM when Mikel (or a true playmaker) is on the field.

Having said all that, I think that Rohr would stick with Onazi-Ndidi-Mikel combo in Russia. And I won't blame him either, though I still have concerns over Onazi's rough tackles. I am afraid that the Euro refs would punish such tackles ... esp if they feel that Nigeria is playing well.


O pari


Etebo played the CMF role very well against Algeria last year,I'd love to see him there again since he isn't good at AMF..


My biggest concern with the Ndidi- Onazi- Mikel combo is the lack of creativity... Most of the chances we created in the WCQ have come from the wings....
But I'm afraid Rohr might still stick with the combo unless he has the balls to drop Onazi for ogu at CM (That's if Ogu impresses enough)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:31am On Nov 12, 2017
somehow:
So we still have issues covering the LB position...(natural LB). I thought Idowu was a LCD? Is he fast enough for the LB position?

I wish Aina was naturally left legged, using a makeshift RB and LB has many disavantages when you face demonic forwards who can turn and twist life out of you.

I'm just afraid of life without Mikel in the worldcup proper incase he picks up an injury, who replaces him? Iwobi can't do that job, he can't hold balls for long.

I wish I can also talk to Rohr, Joel Obi is needed badly.
to be honest that salisu yusuf eehh...I doubt if he makes any input at all....

that man is like a round peg in a square hole prior his appointment he did nothing spectacular in the npfl...

someone who knows his onions as a coach and have been watching super eagles play for a while now....will not rule out Joel obi...
your fear about mikel...I also hold...

and for the LB position...be as it may I will still prefer aina to elderson...he has the pace and he can as well make good crosses and join the attack....Alderson can be messed up by any intelligent winger...saw his play against Cameroon...
I am not sold on him...

the hitherto options for the LB slot...
are still evolving...nura in as Roma and amuzie playing in the Swiss league now...

though I would have wanted deji...he is still very small...as for me I won't mind invite him as cover up....he is good in free kicks and nearly passes moreover he can also play as a DM.

let's see how idowu integrate into the team...he is a LB.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:34am On Nov 12, 2017
Karlovich:
England call up solanke for their upcoming game against Brazil, forgiveness I hope you can rest now
I pray they call them all....including ejaria and give them each at least one cap...

few years from now...we will see how it ends.

because this English policy will ruin the international future of some of this kids...
some will and up not enjoying their football in the international level
any way I wish them all the best.....after all we have talents everywhere including Germany,Belgium etc
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 10:37am On Nov 12, 2017
somehow:
Very simple, can you post stats here to support your notion? Stats like "fouls drawn" by both of them. That should settle this.

BTW, why only Nigeria vs Algeria match or is that the only match we have played?
No offense but do you even know what it means to press? Seems you're arguing with a wrong notion.

How can you use foul stats to prove that one presses? How do you draw fouls when you are not even with the ball?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:42am On Nov 12, 2017
Ok brother, we just have to make use of what we have now. We have time to bring in backup for sensitive positions for now.

Salisu isn't a bad coach though, what he if suggested players but never looked into?

I just need a backup or confirmed leg for LB incase Elderson become worse off. Aina and one more leg needed.

As for mikel position, it's very needed o. Thank God I'm not the only one worried about the lack of a true replacement in the current squad.

One more thing, what if Enyeama doesn't improve or get to play regularly? What happens to our GK postition? Yes Akpeyi as 1st choice or promote Uzohor to first choice? Ezenwa is a no-no when it comes to first choice. Is that plateau United gk worse than what we have currently?
Humility017:

to be honest that salisu yusuf eehh...I doubt if he makes any input at all....

that man is like a round peg in a square hole prior his appointment he did nothing spectacular in the npfl...

someone who knows his onions as a coach and have been watching super eagles play for a while now....will not rule out Joel obi...
your fear about mikel...I also hold...

and for the LB position...be as it may I will still prefer aina to elderson...he has the pace and he can as well make good crosses and join the attack....Alderson can be messed up by any intelligent winger...saw his play against Cameroon...
I am not sold on him...

the hitherto options for the LB slot...
are still evolving...nura in as Roma and amuzie playing in the Swiss league now...

though I would have wanted deji...he is still very small...as for me I won't mind invite him as cover up....he is good in free kicks and nearly passes moreover he can also play as a DM.

let's see how idowu integrate into the team...he is a LB.

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