goodmanjustice:


If only you are the christian you claim to be, u would know that according to Ephesians 4:29, rotten speech should not come out of your mouth. You are here calling someone a fool; that is hardly unwholesome, my good friend. If we investigate you further, it is possible you engage in other VERY UNWHOLESOME activities, but think that with tithe paying you will arrive at a counterbalance. Freeze has been churning out verses after verses from the greatest book to support his claims, but all you guys do is just come here and say "I will continue to pay my tithe". I may not agree with Freeze, but that guy has a formidable biblical back up, anyone who wants to woo me to his side of argument should attack Freeze's points from the bible and not his person. Better still just keep mute and continue tithing, coming here to air a view presupposes that you have a backup for your claims.

Freeze is a fool

LastSurvivor11:


Seems foolishness is in ur DNA..
U think God blesses you because you pay tithe, what about Muslims n atheist who are more successful than you?
God says he blesses who he chooses not who pay tithes

Yes even Evans will claim that God blessed him.
You forgot that God's blessings is for everyone but Heaven is for those that are pure.

LesbianBoy:
Freeze should stop this nonsense!


Where does he want apostle suleman to see money he gives our nollywood actresses

Walahi, i died and woke up

OBIGS:
see how gullible you are. Who told you if you don't pay tithe and directly impact someone life with that money God will not bless you more. Help the poor with your tithe. Help someone and stop helping your pastor live a lavish lifestyle with ur money. Can you even ask that what the tithe is being used for?

I help the poor and also pay my tithe. What's your business?. Freeze say that the disciples of Jesus didn't pay tithe, hope he know that they didn't divorce their wives also.

Let's stop be hypocritic, This man called Freeze is making sense.let's always face reality.One thing that is that many people will see the truth and will be afraid to speak out on the aphorism that : "Do not judge'.Can somebody explain the meaning of that statement.Ignorance is bad.A person that keep quiet on the wrongs he or she perceived that I'd going on in the church and the one that voice out,who among them is doing the will of God.Many will purposely come here to attack Freeze when they truly know that what he is saying is TRUTH,probably because they belong among the beneficiaries. My people,let's call spade a spade.God will be happy with you that you speak out over perceived wrongs.Stop keeping quiet.Now look at the last paragraph in the Freeze write up.Can you say its not true?,how many people will still like to be pastors or will tell us that God called him or her if those tithes,offerings,sowing of seeds etc are not there.Let's tell ourselves the truth.These are more reasons you have many churches in streets of Nigeria while I read last time churches in one of the western countries you have only 37 churches in totality, while only three streets in Nigeria can have close to 37 churches

jamace:
Hope you are not cutting corners in your office and business to accumulate the "God's blessing"?

Meanwhile, tell me the Pope's wealth rating by Forbes and what are the ratings of these tithes collecting pastors on Forbes rating?.....If you don't know, let me help you. See below:

21 Richest Pastors in the World

1) Eric Macedo $1.1b Brazilian
2) Keneth Copeland $760m American
3) Pat Robertson $500m American
4) George Foreman $250m American
5) David Oyedepo $150m Nigerian
6) E A Adeboye $130m Nigerian
7) Ayo Oritsejafor $120m
cool Hebert Angel $60m Zimbabwean
9) Chris Oyakilome $50m Nigerian
10) Benny Hinn $42m Israeli
11) Joel Osteen $40m American
12) Tshifhwa Irene $35m South African
13) Ray McCauley $30m South African
14)Creflow Dollar $27m American
15 ) Billy Graham $25m American TV star
16) Rich Warren $25m American
17) T D Jakes $18m American
18) T B Joshua $15m Nigerian
19) Mathew Ashimolowo $10m Nigerian
20) Juanita Bynum $10m Kenyan
21) Chris Okotie $10m Nigerian
...........................................
Compare these with Leaders of Other Churches and their Personal Wealth:

Pope Francis $0 ( Catholic)
Justin Welby $0 ( Anglican)
All other Leaders of Orthodox Churches have, at most, one home where they live , except Pope Francis who has no personal home .

Source: Forbes List

COPIED

Is it a sin for a pastor to be wealthy?

GavelSlam:


Not every slave wishes to be unshackled.

Enjoy your chains.

Many passtors have done more without media stunt. .I never knew Christ embassy is involved in a program called inner city missions, where threy trained people, most especially the less privilege, to any height.

And the pastor told them never to publish such, becos in JESUS teachings he said when giving to the needy your left habd must not see it.
meaning men should not see it.
But today men are praising pastors and clergymen who advertise their alms on TV and Social media platform.
my pastor has paid people's rent, school fees, etc without anyone knowing about them.

Also what the poor need is not money alone, they need the good news, (gospel) if they practice it, they will automatically become self reliant and rich.
Some persons are poor becos they wasted their lives @ a point they were supposed to be doing the right thing. clubbing, womanizing, lazying around, sowing in fraud, when karma strike you want a honest man to make up for them?
Never! !!!
That was why Jesus said you will always have the poor around you.
although some are genuinely poor.
Why is Naija poor?
God
satan
pastor
the people attitude? ??

GavelSlam:

Not every slave wishes to be unshackled.
Enjoy your chains.

The same to you and your generation

Bros,try understand mata now.

I'm only telling u that freeze alluding that people would run away from ministry if not for the proceeds from tithe isn't true.I said if it was about money,those with those impressive CV wouldn't have come in the first place

ashkenking:
u don't knw wat it takes to be a disciple of Jesus, u think Jesus cares abut ur qualification.. or ur standard.. check all his disciples they all living a good life too before they met him..he told Peter u shall b fisher of men.. they left behind there beautiful wife's and children to walk thousand miles with Jesus.. u think it's bread an akara to be a sherperd.. Jesus death ain't no joke man

jumpandpas:



Yes even Evans will claim that God blessed him.
You forgot that God's blessings is for everyone but Heaven is for those that are pure.

And your stupidity still assures you that you will go to heaven by paying tithe not by doing good deeds..
By the way who told Evans don't pay tithes more than u.
Searching for ur senses bro

What do u expect, the Catholic Church has close to 2 billion population worldwide and they did not have private jet,unlike our so called Man of God here in Nigeria that love competition, first the started with different kinds of car, to university and now private jet

Only the poor complain about giving, cos they don't have. only those who lack understanding thinks you pay tithe to be rich. To me is a kind of gratitude to my provider

jumpandpas:



FOOL of sense indeed. He's only disgracing himself, if not that he's a fool he should have known that what this Pope did has been done over and over by so many pastors before now. Freeze is as useless as Robert Mugabe's excreta, a FOOL that came on line to brag buying jamb form for someone. Let him tell us how many people he has established.
He's fighting a lost battle. I must pay my tithe come rain come shine and if he wants me to stop let him tell God to stop blessing me.

What exactly this fool is talking, Mr animal kingdom

LastSurvivor11:


And your stupidity still assures you that you will go to heaven by paying tithe not by doing good deeds..
By the way who told Evans don't pay tithes more than u.
Searching for ur senses bro

E pain am.

Lumig:
As much as we are trying hard to take side with our Pastors/G.Os,a right thinking person would know that many of our pastors would run away from PASTORSHIP if there is no tithes and offerings to collect in churches. I think this DADDY FREEZE is making a lot of senses whether you like him or not.

That's the point.Let's always face the reality.You may not like the messenger but let's look at the sense in the message.I hate hypocrisy.

Lordcenturion2:


What exactly this fool is talking, Mr animal kingdom

Address your parents this way.

GavelSlam:


When the foreign missionaries built schools and hospitals our fathers and mothers benefitted.

Now?

Even on 20 times the minimum wage, a father would struggle to send his wards to the modern schools the church built.

Yet, you hear touch not... So nauseating.

Exactly, some of us went to missionary schools where fees are so subsidized.

But now, new generation churches dare not tag their schools "missionary" because they are business ventures.

Yet Nigerians won't use their brains...kai!

jumpandpas:



Is it a sin for a pastor to be wealthy?

It is a sin to deceive innocent members to part with their hard earned money in order for a pastor to become wealthy. Not just wealthy, but privately wealthy at the expense of the organisation which he registered under the CAC that it is a non-profit making organisation.

Please, tell me what you feel seeing names of "pastors" on Forbes list of richest men in the world.

jumpandpas:


E pain am.

Seems pain now has a different meaning..
Wake up man. Ur being conned

jumpandpas:



Address your parents this way.

Am not talking to but a poor 2 person who gave birth to this nuisance.. Fucck u motherfucker,

jamace:
It is a sin to deceive innocent members to part with their hard earned money in order for a pastor to become wealthy. Not just wealthy, but privately wealthy at the expense of the organisation which he registered under the CAC that it is a non-profit making organisation.

Please, tell me what you feel seeing names of "pastors" on Forbes list of richest men in the world.

Please tell me how you'll feel if pastors are the poorest in the world.

Lordcenturion2:


Am not talking to but a poor 2 person who gave birth to Lordcenturion2.. Fucck ME
motherfucker,

Visit Yabaleft

OK.. now I understand.. but people might still prefer to go for the one. Way they pay pass with d power and pretige

derecho:
Bros,try understand mata now.

I'm only telling u that freeze alluding that people would run away from ministry if not for the proceeds from tithe isn't true.I said if it was about money,those with those impressive CV wouldn't have come in the first place

[quote author=sainty2k3 post=62422421]He is an idiot. He lacks information or simply seive out information that he want to use for his masturbation. There are lot of pastors that do charity far far more than what hebcan ever imagine but because they don't come out and publicize everything like our politicians or the stupid freezer.
Do you know how many of such cars he got and even greater gift . Even the extent of Popes charity he can't phantom. A good Christian don't do charity like an OAP[/qu

What did God tell Nicodemus to do to make heaven. Is it to give some and keep some or to give all to the poor?

sainty2k3:
He is an idiot. He lacks information or simply seive out information that he want to use for his masturbation. There are lot of pastors that do charity far far more than what hebcan ever imagine but because they don't come out and publicize everything like our politicians or the stupid freezer.
Do you know how many of such cars he got and even greater gift . Even the extent of Popes charity he can't phantom. A good Christian don't do charity like an OAP

Ask yourself this question...

What did God tell Nicodemus to do to make heaven. Is it to give some and keep some or to give all to the poor?

ArchangeLucifer:
Afonja pastors have misled the sheep for decades, feeding fat while their congregation remain impoverished & malnourished thereby prone to fits of violence & aggressive outbursts like sarrki.

Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo, Adefarasin, T. B. Joshua, Suleiman, Adeyemi etc are all Afonja conmen.

What of the Port Harcourt Pastor that got car and jet for 55th birthday? Is he also an afonja.
You know that you are stupid and thoughtless, right?

cummando:
Judge not.
So that you will not be judged

Believe me, this is a perfect cover-up for your pastors gullibility. And it seems the "judge not" doctrine only comes up when your pastor's fake life is exposed.

jumpandpas:



Please tell me how you'll feel if pastors are the poorest in the world.

Are the reverends in orthodox churches the poorest in the world?

Don't be surprised say all these guys wey form frugal are the same ATM for prostitutes and girls wey dey control their lives like that super street fighter game.

Some go do anything for woman,disown dem family etc Once na church thing,"sanity" go return. Una doh
Why suggest to others how to spend their money?

ArchangeLucifer:
Afonja pastors have misled the sheep for decades, feeding fat while their congregation remain impoverished & malnourished thereby prone to fits of violence & aggressive outbursts like sarrki.

Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo, Adefarasin, T. B. Joshua, Suleiman, Adeyemi etc are all Afonja conmen.

You really ar hav d xteristics of lucipher...y say such stuffs

As anyone thought of this, the growth of the church varies directly to sins and crime committed on a daily basis.. Simply cos everyone is desperate to impress pastors wit cash an oppress the members wit titles in church..come c politics in church d higher ur tithe an offering d greater ur post, seat and recognition.. this only make people go desperate in d search of money...

jamace:
Are the reverends in orthodox churches the poorest in the world?

I am not their account officer.