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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by Roseey0(f): 10:17am On Nov 26, 2017
Tithe is a natural principal. Just like karma. Just that giving God is advised.
My problem is with the way it is emphasissed. Fornication is killing young souls and no pastor talks about it.
Corruption is eating Nigeria up. Yet no pastor will talk about it .
But any Sunday you no hear tithe, e be like say u never go church

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by OBIGS(m): 10:19am On Nov 26, 2017
orisa37:
Well discerned post: an anti-atheist weapon.
this explainination I not enough. What I want to know is what is the tight being used.
Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by OBIGS(m): 10:19am On Nov 26, 2017
orisa37:
Well discerned post: an anti-atheist weapon.
this explainination I not enough. What I want to know is what is the tithe being used.
Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by obailala(m): 10:19am On Nov 26, 2017
onuhabel1:
Last night, God's servant, Dr Paul Enenche of Dunamis exposed the truth of tithing pointing out how Jesus endorsed in
Matt 23:23 says

New Living Translation
"What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law--justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

King James Bible
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

The passage shows that Jesus endorsed tithing but rebuked tithing in iniquity, so we should tithe!
*You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.* (NLT)
Excerpts from the teaching:

WHAT IS THE TITHE ABOUT?
1. The Tithe is one-tenth of a person’s income
2. The Tithe existed before the law of Moses (Gen. 14:18-20; 2Cor. 9:6-7)
The Tithe did not come with the law of Moses so it cannot go with the law Moses. It existed far before the law and will continue to exist far after the law.
3. The Tithe did not begin as a commandment, it began as a Kingdom principle delivered by revelation (Gen. 14:18-20)
Nobody told Abraham to tithe, it was revealed to him by God
4. Kingdom principles and revelations are universal in application (Mark 13:37)
Time does not change Divine principles and revelations (Gen. 17:1; Matt. 5:48; 2Cor. 13:11)
6. Tithing was confirmed and commended by the Master in the New Testament (Matt. 23:23; Luke 11:42; Lev. 27:30)
7. The Tithe was validated by Paul the Apostle in the New Testament [Heb. 7:1-8]


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Another tithing thread again... undecided

Okay, tithing did not come with the law of Moses and cannot go with the law Moses. But there are 3 things which are being twisted by these modern day teachings:

1. Tithing which existed before the law of Moses wasnt a mandatory requirement. Abraham VOLUNTARILY tithed (out of his spoils of war), and it is on record that he did so only once. Modern day teachings contradict this.

2. Jacob, also before the laws of Moses, similarly tithed VOLUNTARILY. He made a personal vow to God to give a tenth if God rescued him. This again is being contradicted by modern day teachings which says every believer MUST give a tenth to be in God's good books.

3. After the laws of Moses passed, Apostle Paul whilst delivering the message to the gentile Christians (which Nigeria falls under) explained the right principles of giving under the new covenant in 2Cor 9:7. This teaching requires that a believer should give willingly and without compulsion, whatever amount he chooses in his heart to give. This again is another very important principle which is being contradicted or totally neglected by modern day preachers who clearly base their tithe teachings from Mosaic principles.

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by jayarziki20(m): 10:20am On Nov 26, 2017
onuhabel1:
ministry is no longer by tribe but by divine calling

Is Paul the apostle a levite? but he was called of God
the livites are in isreal go there yearly n pay ur tight.

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by miraclea: 10:21am On Nov 26, 2017
Sacrifice of animals are also before moses so why do they go with the laws you can't burry the truth there are questions we need to ask ourselves are thithe meant to build all these mega building will Jesus approve it are thithe meant to build schools the poor and needy children can't afford may God help the church

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:22am On Nov 26, 2017
Mujtahida:

Why don't you go and sacrifice your son or travel from Ur to Haran since those too are part of what God told Abraham to do given your statement that what God told Abraham is applicable to everybody in our world today.

And didn't God tell Abraham to circumscise his entire household as a mark of the covenant between Abraham and God? Whence then did Paul derive the authority to say that for IN CHRIST neither circumcision nor uncircumscision has any value, the only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Galatians 5:6

If Paul was alive to settle this tithe issue I can confidently say this is what he would say 'for In CHRIST tithing or not tithing does not count what counts is faith expressing itself through love.'

Most pastors endorsing tithe and foisting it on the people through words such 'tithe is a Kingdom principle' are being deliberately deceitful. There are no Kingdom principles- not tithe, not seed faith etc. The only principle is Christ, in Christ.
Open your eyes people.

You are indeed a genius.

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by kennykane1(m): 10:23am On Nov 26, 2017
onuhabel1:
maybe the reason why you are not yet more than how you are now, is because you don't tithe
y not try it (The bible said, Prove me if I will not open the Windows of heaven....) and see the difference

And to you, the best way to prove God is to bribe him in return for his blessings?

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by DEOLINX: 10:32am On Nov 26, 2017
I won't argue with words of mouth... I want the Pastors to explain to their congregation what Hebrews 7:5-20 says:

Hebrew 7: 5 True, according to the Law, those of the sons of Leʹvi who receive their priestly office have a commandment to collect tithes from the people, that is, from their brothers, even though these are descendants of Abraham. 6 But this man who did not trace his genealogy from them took tithes from Abraham and blessed the one who had the promises. 7 Now it is undeniable that the lesser one is blessed by the greater 8 And in the one case, it is men who are dying who receive tithes, but in the other case, it is someone of whom witness is given that he lives. 9 And it could be said that even Leʹvi, who receives tithes, has paid tithes through Abraham, 10 for he was still a future descendant of his forefather when Mel·chizʹe·dek met him. 11 If, then, perfection was attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for it was a feature of the Law that was given to the people), what further need would there be for another priest to arise who is said to be in the manner of Mel·chizʹe·dek and not in the manner of Aaron? 12 For since the priesthood is being changed, it becomes necessary to change the Law as well. 13 For the man about whom these things are said came from another tribe, from which no one has officiated at the altar. 14 For it is clear that our Lord has descended from Judah, yet Moses said nothing about priests coming from that tribe........18 So, then, the former commandment is set aside because it is weak and ineffective. 19 For the Law made nothing perfect, but the introduction of a better hope did, through which we are drawing near to God.
Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by Afonjanightmare(m): 10:32am On Nov 26, 2017
onuhabel1:
that's right!
Anyone that struggles with the payment of tithes either does not know God or has not surrendered themselves totally to God
You are very stupid, I don't pay tithe and I know God.

Back to Enenche, He said that the Pharisee pay tithes but overlook the most important aspects of Christianity which is showing love and helping the needy, Enenche buttressed the point that Tithing is irrelevant if you wanna make heaven

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by loswhite(m): 10:33am On Nov 26, 2017
U
onuhabel1:
Last night, God's servant, Dr Paul Enenche of Dunamis exposed the truth of tithing pointing out how Jesus endorsed in
Matt 23:23 says

New Living Translation
"What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law--justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

King James Bible
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

The passage shows that Jesus endorsed tithing but rebuked tithing in iniquity, so we should tithe!
*You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.* (NLT)
Excerpts from the teaching:

WHAT IS THE TITHE ABOUT?
1. The Tithe is one-tenth of a person’s income
2. The Tithe existed before the law of Moses (Gen. 14:18-20; 2Cor. 9:6-7)
The Tithe did not come with the law of Moses so it cannot go with the law Moses. It existed far before the law and will continue to exist far after the law.
3. The Tithe did not begin as a commandment, it began as a Kingdom principle delivered by revelation (Gen. 14:18-20)
Nobody told Abraham to tithe, it was revealed to him by God
4. Kingdom principles and revelations are universal in application (Mark 13:37)
Time does not change Divine principles and revelations (Gen. 17:1; Matt. 5:48; 2Cor. 13:11)
6. Tithing was confirmed and commended by the Master in the New Testament (Matt. 23:23; Luke 11:42; Lev. 27:30)
7. The Tithe was validated by Paul the Apostle in the New Testament [Heb. 7:1-8]


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1. Your scriptures do not tally with your definition.
Gen14 tells us Abraham gave tithe of spoil of war not his income Hebrew 7: 4
Never was it written anywhere else that Abraham paid tithe of his income. Abraham never taught h children principles to tithe.
A one off 10% of spoils does not equate to Tithing 10% of income or the laws giving to the children of Israel in the book of leviticus.
2 the book of Matt 23:23 was never abt commending Tithing, infact Jesus specifically stated that it is less important part of the law.
It is important to note that in the days of Jesus Christ the isrealites where still under the mosaic law hence the latter part of the message coz anything else will be seen as against the law.
3 Tithing began as a law and a commandments in t book o leviticus saying otherwise is deliberate misleading information to gullible followers. Prior to the book o leviticus d bible never told us of anybody paying tithe o income except spoils of war and Jacob who made a vow
In the book of lev 27 tells us the law which was giving to the isrealites on Mount sanai. That law is for a purpose the tribe of the Levi which bloodline is for the duties of priest are not allowed to have any inheritance or land so in return a tenth which is tithe Is given to them and they in turn give 10% of what they have received an keep in Gods store house.
4 mark 13:37 talks nothing abt tithe..kingdom principles state it is more blessed to give than to receive. Kingdom principles tell us that there is blessing in giving from your heart not in giving as threatened by pastors who quote Malachi 3:10
Your 6-7 is just u delibrately ignoring the fact a twisting the truth

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by betterABIAstate: 10:36am On Nov 26, 2017
Good to know, then I must wait till I fight a war, win it and pay tithe from the proceed of the war.

Thank you sir

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by loswhite(m): 10:37am On Nov 26, 2017
onuhabel1:
they are universal in the sense that what God said to Abraham in the old testament is applicable to everybody even in our world today
U see that, God told Abraham to be perfect in the old testament, that It is in the old testament does not mean its not applicable to us
So, if God has said to Abraham by revelation (Because nobody told him to tithe) to tithe, it is also applicable to everybody
Selah!
lol...what did Abraham tithe? Did Abraham ever tithe his income? Can u compare the mosaic law of tithe with what Abraham did? God never said t Abraham to tithe so this your by revelation is delibrately misleading... A one time tithe on spoils of war cannot be Define as a tenth of one's income except of course it is definition by revelation

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by loswhite(m): 10:39am On Nov 26, 2017
onuhabel1:
Yea, if what Jesus said to one person, he says to all

Don't u know Jesus was with God from the beginning and he's God?

If he told Abraham, it applies to us as well, Paul the apostle also spoke abt tithing, u knw?
what did paul say abt Tithing?
Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:40am On Nov 26, 2017
Hebrews 7:18-19
18 So, then, the former commandment is set aside because it is weak and ineffective.

19 For the Law made nothing perfect, but the introduction of a better hope did, through which we are drawing near to God.

Finito.

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by loswhite(m): 10:46am On Nov 26, 2017
Goshen360:


1. That doesn't answer my question which is, are non tithers like me NOT enjoying open heaven because I don't tithe?

2. How do you know how I am now and how far I should have gone? Do you know how committed I am to giving and blessing or touching people's lives?
When they no longer have point to defend the obvious truth they go into you have been better if u where paying...lol go tell that to the Chinese

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by Yameater(m): 10:55am On Nov 26, 2017
Great
Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by kiddapunk: 10:58am On Nov 26, 2017
plainbibletruth:


Kindly explain the "kingdom principles and revelations" in that Mark 13:37 passage.
except you just want to argue its obvious enough, after everything he(christ?) has told them,they should understand it is open to all
Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by DEOLINX: 11:03am On Nov 26, 2017
In essence Pastors chose to ignore a covenant but promote tithing because it benefits them?

Truth is and as you quoted, love for one another. No one is saying anything is wrong with giving voluntarily to promote the kingdom by building more places of worship and instruments of worship.

Jehovah witness have the largest reach with thousands of kingdom halls in almost all lands and have been printing world class publications since ages while still helping brothers and sisters in need from voluntary contribution without making noise or collecting tithes to buy jets and grow businesses.

That's what the Bible says.

Maybe you should read:

Hebrew 7: 5 True, according to the Law, those of the sons of Leʹvi who receive their priestly office have a commandment to collect tithes from the people, that is, from their brothers, even though these are descendants of Abraham. 6 But this man who did not trace his genealogy from them took tithes from Abraham and blessed the one who had the promises. 7 Now it is undeniable that the lesser one is blessed by the greater 8 And in the one case, it is men who are dying who receive tithes, but in the other case, it is someone of whom witness is given that he lives. 9 And it could be said that even Leʹvi, who receives tithes, has paid tithes through Abraham, 10 for he was still a future descendant of his forefather when Mel·chizʹe·dek met him. 11 If, then, perfection was attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for it was a feature of the Law that was given to the people), what further need would there be for another priest to arise who is said to be in the manner of Mel·chizʹe·dek and not in the manner of Aaron? 12 For since the priesthood is being changed, it becomes necessary to change the Law as well. 13 For the man about whom these things are said came from another tribe, from which no one has officiated at the altar. 14 For it is clear that our Lord has descended from Judah, yet Moses said nothing about priests coming from that tribe........18 So, then, the former commandment is set aside because it is weak and ineffective. 19 For the Law made nothing perfect, but the introduction of a better hope did, through which we are drawing near to God.





misano:


God bless U

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by back2sender: 11:05am On Nov 26, 2017
onuhabel1:
he tithes to his father in ministryu
take note!
Which father? You people have made a mess of christianity.
Why was tithing not an issue from the 60s to 80s? Because people worship in truth and spirit and its was all about salvation.
Pastors has introduced 419 into churches now in the disguise as tithes.
Make una kontinou with the 419

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by gmaribel(m): 11:08am On Nov 26, 2017
It would have been scandalous for any of the Apostles to collect tithes from believers after Christ resurrected from the grave.

If the issue of circumcision which started before the Law given to Moses generated such controversy with the Gentile Christians that Paul had to write Gal 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

How much more tithe.....were they to go back to the things that were imperfect...When Christ died, Christians did not need to offer sacrifices at the temple again. They were not obliged to adhere to the law of Moses. The teaching of compulsory tithe is heresy not founded in the scriptures for Chistians. It fuels the ego and greed of Pastors whose aim is to fleece their members .

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by Nobody: 11:22am On Nov 26, 2017
onuhabel1:
but master Jesus did not condemn tithe he rather said we should tithe and still do other righteous things
Hebrews also said we should tithe
so its not a matter of judaism

I hope you know tithe was never about currency and why didnt pastor paul explain the Deuteronomy part?

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by Raymondfayowole(m): 11:26am On Nov 26, 2017
Kindly read this for more understanding
https://www.nairaland.com/4184957/what-must-know-tithe
Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by narttis1: 11:27am On Nov 26, 2017
onuhabel1:
but master Jesus did not condemn tithe he rather said we should tithe and still do other righteous things
Hebrews also said we should tithe
so its not a matter of judaism
What religion did Jesus practice on earth? Christianity or Judaism? Was Jesus talking to Christians or to Jews? Please stop taking the Scriptures out of context. Study the bible for yourself and stop following everything your pastor says.the bible is free. ..read!

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by dfo12(m): 11:31am On Nov 26, 2017
Pay your tithe as Christians period. The Bible illustrates it and that is the ultimate manual for our Christian living. Do not allow someone without divine knowledge to confuse you with his natural mind not to pay tithes.

Whoever you think eats your tithe is non of your business. Allow God to deal with everyone according to his will. You just pay your tithe and look away. After all, tithe is not your money but Gods. Only rubbers of God will walk away with tithes. Now will a man rob God..? Read Malachi 3:8-12.

Remain blessed of God.

#SayNoToAthiest

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by toye440: 11:34am On Nov 26, 2017
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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by Meritocracy: 11:37am On Nov 26, 2017
Why all these brouhaha about tithe, tithe shouldn't be by force pastors. God says thou shall not steal and if someone steal and bring tithes no pastor care to know the source of money. What a shame.

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by Nobody: 11:39am On Nov 26, 2017
dfo12:
Pay your tithe as Christians period. The Bible illustrates it and that is the ultimate manual for our Christian living. Do not allow someone without divine knowledge to confuse you with his natural mind not to pay tithes.

Whoever you think eats your tithe is non of your business. Allow God to deal with everyone according to his will. You just pay your tithe and look away. After all, tithe is not your money but Gods. Only rubbers of God will walk away with tithes. Now will a man rob God..? Read Malachi 3:8-12.

Remain blessed of God.

#SayNoToAthiest

If your pastor is the con man, I trust your ingenuity to unravel who the other person is.

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by davillian(m): 11:43am On Nov 26, 2017
Tithe is not 10% of your income
It's 10% of your harvest.
There was money then but the teaching was to bring 10% of your harvest.
So they will be food in God's house.

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by positivetaught: 11:44am On Nov 26, 2017
My problem with this tithe issue is this, why is it that most of the laws in the old testament are not accepted today even though there is no evidence showing their abrogation by Christ but there is so much emphasis on tithe only?,pls can someone enlighten me.

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Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by BreezyRita(f): 11:49am On Nov 26, 2017
MrBottle:
Who is the said father cos God ain't got no account number!
I think I will start doing what he is doing ..---paying tithe to my account.
Please why not stop saying things you have no idea of. Are you a pastors financial manager? Do you cash his cheques. Why can't we stop jumping on a wagon to criticize pastors on tithing. Dem no carry gun for pesin head say make e tithe.
Bishop Oyedepo pays tithes in his church. The church in turn pays tithe to another church. Did you know that? Living Faith Church pays tithes too. When Abraham paid his tithe, did he give it to God directly?
I'm not trying to change your mind but if you want to argue please try and face facts instead of this sentimental sh*t here. I hope you k ow saying I'm wrong in an argument doesn't make me wrong? It just shows you got nothing to say.


narttis1:

What religion did Jesus practice on earth? Christianity or Judaism? Was Jesus talking to Christians or to Jews? Please stop taking the Scriptures out of context. Study the bible for yourself and stop following everything your pastor says.the bible is free. ..read!
Jesus practised Judaism because we're talking of tithing abi? Meaning the Lord's prayer and all His teachings shouldn't be used in church now. Right? When the Bible has clearly stated that all Scripture is given.........
You are the one taking the Scriptures out of context here
Re: Paul Enenche: Gospel Truth Of The Tithe Revealed by BreezyRita(f): 11:54am On Nov 26, 2017
Meritocracy:
Why all these brouhaha about tithe, tithe shouldn't be by force pastors. God says thou shall not steal and if someone steal and bring tithes no pastor care to know the source of money. What a shame.
Bruh, if a man tithes from money gotten by evil, that's his own problem with God. Not the pastor's.

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