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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 2:46pm On Nov 26, 2017
Leyqute:
If you are annoyed sip some tea or smash your phone against the wall but that's the gospel truth. If it was Chelsea or Tottenham at the top of the table I'd still say the same thing.

So because we dominated last season and kept drawing matches, we should start playing horribly to win matches? Is that the solution?

On paper we have one of the best squad in the league, we just aren't making enough use of them. And who is to blame for this, Ed Woodward?

And there have been matchdays in which we do enjoy the performance and praised the players, Mou included.
lol,y would I smash my phone over what people I've never seen or know have to sayhuh there's no sense there,d funny thing is that I was once like that during my earlier days of sports fanaticism,but I know better now,there are good nd bad times in football..

now on which fvcking paper do we have d best squadhuh
with young as lb? with injury prone Jones? with having no rw? of having no world-class num 10? if you're looking for good teams on paper,then its city nd spurs you should look to,but hey football is not played on paper mayb when you realise this you'd calm Down nd enjoy d game
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:47pm On Nov 26, 2017
Leyqute:
The only game Mou lost at OT was to City. Although both teams have improved since then, I won't be surprised if City best us at OT again this season. The outcome of that match is so unpredictable. If City win theyre closer to the title. If we win there's hope for us.

But I agree one thing Mou needs to work on is our away record. We haven't been strong away from home since SAF left. It's like the players become intimidated and switch off. Other top 5 teams arguably have a better away record than we do.
I agree. But my argument united hardly lose at home and most likely win. The guy want to suggest that playing at home does not matter. TBH it matters for mourinho.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:49pm On Nov 26, 2017
patrickmuf:
We can win playing well, yesterdays performance as with many others was drab irrespective of the fact that we won and that's what we are on about, we won't always have lady luck smile our way...

Talking about personnel, this is my combined Spurs-United 11;
De-Gea- Valencia - Bailley - Alderweireld - Rose - Matic - Pogba - Eriksen - Martial - Kane - Lukaku/Rashford...
Thank you. Chelsea didn't offer drab performances last season to win the league. Our players seem to be too relaxed and at ease. Sometimes it's as if they expect the opponent to hand them the 3 points without having to work for it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 2:49pm On Nov 26, 2017
funlord:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lKJUDxaMko


Only Jupiter knows what will happen on this thread if jose blows a 4-0 first half lead like this while playing sexy!
I'll prefer not to dream about it angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:50pm On Nov 26, 2017
patrickmuf:
At some point, we have to move from the Moyes and LVG era considering how much we have spent...
Only my number one answer reflected moyes and lvg era. Guardiola has spent more than mourinho but he has not done anything Pellegrini did not do, infact so far they have performed worse.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:52pm On Nov 26, 2017
CapitalCee:
I agree. But my argument united hardly lose at home and most likely win. The guy want to suggest that playing at home does not matter. TBH it matters for mourinho.
Ah. That's something personal for Mou. That guy is a die hard winner at home. He hardly loses at home wherever he goes. He has the best home win run at Chelsea. Chelsea beat us 4-0 at the Bridge last season but "chopped" 2 goals when they came to OT despite the fact that we were out of the top 4.

Mouriinho always wants to win at home. It's a big thing for him. But the game against Pep is always unpredictable. Same for when both managers were in Spain.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 3:00pm On Nov 26, 2017
Leyqute:
If you are annoyed sip some tea or smash your phone against the wall but that's the gospel truth. If it was Chelsea or Tottenham at the top of the table I'd still say the same thing.

So because we dominated last season and kept drawing matches, we should start playing horribly to win matches? Is that the solution?

On paper we have one of the best squad in the league, we just aren't making enough use of these players. And who is to blame for this, Ed Woodward?

And there have been matchdays in which we do enjoy the performance and praised the players, Mou included.
He should tell that to Pep also.
I normal complain of coaches in their 2nd season and from what we're playing, mehn it's poor and they're against wee teams. angry Sometimes you watch it and wonder if they do train together cos it's so disjointed and lethargic. I hope the silly mistake against H'field is not going to happen again.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:03pm On Nov 26, 2017
dubylhover:
lol,y would I smash my phone over what people I've never seen or know have to sayhuh there's no sense there,d funny thing is that I was once like that during my earlier days of sports fanaticism,but I know better now,there are good nd bad times in football..

now on which fvcking paper do we have d best squadhuh
with young as lb? with injury prone Jones? with having no rw? of having no world-class num 10? if you're looking for good teams on paper,then its city nd spurs you should look to,
Maybe you want us to become the new Liverpool, cos that's why peeps are complaining. We want to win the league and these performances don't tell the story of a league winner. Mou probably would've gotten more slack if he came in after Moyes but things are the way they are.

If you list the best 4 squads in the league we'll be among, so EOD.

but hey football is not played on paper mayb when you realise this you'd calm Down nd enjoy d game[/quote]I'm sure you enjoyed our game against Basel and yesterday's. undecided

I didn't use any swear words when replying your comment, so do return the courtesy like the gentleman that you are. smiley
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:06pm On Nov 26, 2017
Leyqute:
You don't know what you are saying, Elampiro. You no know ball.

E.O.D
Argue with verifiable facts and stats. Go to stats and show me the teams that create many clear cut chances in a match. What you call CCC might not be what is really CCC.

Back to the argument. During when Rashford and Martial were on the pitch, Brighton park bus and relied on counter thereby giving no room for our forwards to operate. Even when we scored, we still played them half field.

But as soon as the two guys left, they pushed forward leaving wide gaps behind and in between them for our forwards to utilize. Yet all we saw was Zlatan, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku losing the ball as soon as they got it, making wrong passes and refusal to press for the ball. No single threats again, and every ball was immediately returned to our half by Brighton. Our defence came under undue pressure.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:07pm On Nov 26, 2017
chrisley024:
He should tell that to Pep also.
I normal complain of coaches in their 2nd season and from what we're playing, mehn it's poor and they're against wee teams. angry Sometimes you watch it and wonder if they do train together cos it's so disjointed and lethargic. I hope the silly mistake against H'field is not going to happen again.
Watford beckons. And that Marco guy na one stubborn alagidi guy. I'm waiting for a nice surprise that will be beneficial to us.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 3:07pm On Nov 26, 2017
Leyqute:
Maybe you want us to become the new Liverpool, cos that's why peeps are complaining. We want to win the league and these performances don't tell the story of a league winner. Mou probably would've gotten more slack if he came in after Moyes but things are the way they are.

If you list the best 4 squads in the league we'll be among, so EOD.

but hey football is not played on paper mayb when you realise this you'd calm Down nd enjoy d game

I'm sure you enjoyed our game against Basel and yesterday's. undecided

I didn't use any swear words when replying your comment, so do return the courtesy like the gentleman that you are. smiley
oga even if we become d New liverpool,would you kill yourself? I'm just sayin that d criticism is too much,not justifiable at all,you didn't use any swear words,just told me to smash my phone,but sorry its all good sha..let's hope we beat Watford..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:09pm On Nov 26, 2017
dubylhover:
lol,y would I smash my phone over what people I've never seen or know have to sayhuh there's no sense there,d funny thing is that I was once like that during my earlier days of sports fanaticism,but I know better now,there are good nd bad times in football..

now on which fvcking paper do we have d best squadhuh
with young as lb? with injury prone Jones? with having no rw? of having no world-class num 10? if you're looking for good teams on paper,then its city nd spurs you should look to,but hey football is not played on paper mayb when you realise this you'd calm Down nd enjoy d game
During the summer transfer window, which lb rw and number 10 did Mourinho tried to go for but couldn't get? I don't mean rumors
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:09pm On Nov 26, 2017
elampiro:
Argue with verifiable facts and stats. Go to stats and show me the teams that create many clear cut chances in a match. What you call CCC might not be what is really CCC.

Back to the argument. During when Rashford and Martial were on the pitch, Brighton park bus and replied on counter thereby giving no room for our forwards to operate. Even when we scored, we still played them half field.

But as soon as the two guys left, they pushed forward leaving wide gaps behind and in between them for our forwards to utilize. Yet also we saw was Zlatan, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku losing the ball as soon as they got it, making wrong passes and refusal to press for the ball. No single threats again, and every ball was immediately returned to our half by Brighton. Our defence came under undue pressure.
Yes sir! You are right Sir Elampiro The Great III!!

DOUBLE TUALE BABA EDO!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 3:12pm On Nov 26, 2017
#siddon look mode activated
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:12pm On Nov 26, 2017
Leyqute:
Yes sir! You are right Sir Elampiro The Great III!!

DOUBLE TUALE BABA EDO!!!
Ángel di María, Paris Saint-Germain
Neymar’s arrival may leave Di María or Julian Draxler without a starting place at Paris Saint-Germain. Di María is perhaps better on the right wing but he is a capable performer on either flank. Di Maria’s adaptability means he can excel in either a 4-2-3-1 formation or a 4-3-3, meaning Valverde wouldn’t have to alter Barcelona’s system too much.

He created more clear-cut goalscoring chances (21) than any other player in Ligue 1 last season
, while placing third for key passes (77), which would undoubtedly benefit Suárez. Di Maria and Messi combined well for Argentina at the World Cup in 2014 and he would be a cost effective replacement for Neymar, albeit a short-term solution. The move would also have the bonus of annoying Real Madrid fans.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2017/aug/04/barcelona-sign-replace-neymar-prg-coutinho-mbappe-hazard

.....


Read the above for you to understand how scanty clear cut chances are. I will show you more examples
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:15pm On Nov 26, 2017
dubylhover:
oga even if we become d New liverpool,would you kill yourself? I'm just sayin that d criticism is too much,not justifiable at all,you didn't use any swear words,just told me to smash my phone,but sorry its all good sha..let's hope we beat Watford..
If we become the new Liverpool, na to transform into the new Pataki. grin

The criticism is not too much. Everybody has his or her own opinion. Look at KagawaTen. He wasn't as persevering in his criticism of Herrera as Elamps Baba the 3rd is of his passionate defense of Rooney, else he'd be in all of our faces at the moment. We've been hurt by Gollum Moyes and we don't want a repeat.

BTW why didn't you smash your phone against the wall? It's a nice suggestion.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:35pm On Nov 26, 2017
Leyqute

Clear cut chances highest creator from August 2016 to March 2017, according to whoscored report

L. Messi - 19
K. De Bruyne - 18
Á. Di María - 16 )




We can praise Di Maria because he didn't have high minutes on the field.

To make you understand more the how hard it is to create a clear cut chance, the highest in this Calendar year from January - October first week, is Messi with 21 CCC. That is even less than 1 CCC per match for Messi.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 3:35pm On Nov 26, 2017
CapitalCee:
I mean Wenger played more entertaining football than fergie
Playing better football is different from playing entertaining football.

There are a few elements in "better football". missing in entertaining football.

During Fergies era, man u played better football than arsenal that's why we won far more trophies especially the league than they did with their nonsense entertaining football that consistently made them struggle to qualify for UCL.

some characteristics of better football is being effective and entertaining.
you could say we were less entertaining than assanal but more effective.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 3:57pm On Nov 26, 2017
I think the management should pencil down either a good right-wing player or a good right back who's also quality going forward. Antonio Valencia is just terrible in attack and its getting worse by the day, although he has other qualities like keeping possession and defending ok. Fosu-Mensah can fill in sometimes too.

The way the team is set up is not the best because of the clueless wing-backs in the team. Ideally it should be Anthony Martial and Marcus Rashford tilting more centrally towards the CF as wing forwards and not touch-line hugging left and right-wingers.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:09pm On Nov 26, 2017
codedguy1:
Playing better football is different from playing entertaining football.

There are a few elements in "better football". missing in entertaining football.

During Fergies era, man u played better football than arsenal that's why we won far more trophies especially the league than they did with their nonsense entertaining football that consistently made them struggle to qualify for UCL.

some characteristics of better football is being effective and entertaining.
you could say we were less entertaining than assanal but more effective.
You are very correct.
United have won only 1 home match 1-0 with majority others being a 4 goal feast.
Spurs have won by 1-0 3 times drawing 0-0 once. Liverpool have also recorded 1-0 home victory versus crystal palace.
I wonder who among the above narrative plays better football.
Talking about effective, i think the team on top of the table is more effective.
For me the better football is that football that gets results for me, not the one that appease the hating media.
I will take our "boring " (because it's not boring to me) 1-0 win than that rubbish Dortmund served us yesterday.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 4:16pm On Nov 26, 2017
ChristineC:
I think the management should pencil down either a good right-wing player or a good right back who's also quality going forward. Antonio Valencia is just terrible in attack and its getting worse by the day, although he has other qualities like keeping possession and defending ok. Fosu-Mensah can fill in sometimes too.

The way the team is set up is not the best because of the clueless wing-backs in the team. Ideally it should be Anthony Martial and Marcus Rashford tilting more centrally towards the CF as wing forwards and not touch-line hugging left and right-wingers.
That one will be doing Zulu dance around the ball
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 4:30pm On Nov 26, 2017
Leyqute:
If we become the new Liverpool, na to transform into the new Pataki. grin

The criticism is not too much. Everybody has his or her own opinion. Look at KagawaTen. He wasn't as persevering in his criticism of Herrera as Elamps Baba the 3rd is of his passionate defense of Rooney, else he'd be in all of our faces at the moment. We've been hurt by Gollum Moyes and we don't want a repeat.

BTW why didn't you smash your phone against the wall? It's a nice suggestion.
hehehe,oga for this recession I no fit smash my phone oo grin but from d look of things,does it mean that kagawa was right abt Herrera all dx while?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 4:31pm On Nov 26, 2017
eph12:
During the summer transfer window, which lb rw and number 10 did Mourinho tried to go for but couldn't get? I don't mean rumors
perisic cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 4:35pm On Nov 26, 2017
codedguy1:
Playing better football is different from playing entertaining football.

There are a few elements in "better football". missing in entertaining football.

During Fergies era, man u played better football than arsenal that's why we won far more trophies especially the league than they did with their nonsense entertaining football that consistently made them struggle to qualify for UCL.

some characteristics of better football is being effective and entertaining.
you could say we were less entertaining than assanal but more effective.
Great post. Well said.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:40pm On Nov 26, 2017
dubylhover:
perisic cheesy
Na perisic be the lb rw or number 10? It was very obvious we needed to do better in those positions especially but the coach thought otherwise and you now want to blame the fans.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:45pm On Nov 26, 2017
ChristineC:
I think the management should pencil down either a good right-wing player or a good right back who's also quality going forward. Antonio Valencia is just terrible in attack and its getting worse by the day, although he has other qualities like keeping possession and defending ok. Fosu-Mensah can fill in sometimes too.

The way the team is set up is not the best because of the clueless wing-backs in the team. Ideally it should be Anthony Martial and Marcus Rashford tilting more centrally towards the CF as wing forwards and not touch-line hugging left and right-wingers.
Val can be excused because he has put in a lot over the last few years. He has been the only one running the whole of the rw for a long time now and it's beginning to affect him. If only the club had gotten a rw for him, I'm sure he would have been more appreciated
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:09pm On Nov 26, 2017
dubylhover:
hehehe,oga for this recession I no fit smash my phone oo grin but from d look of things,does it mean that kagawa was right abt Herrera all dx while?
Nah. It only means he'll have the right to play the "I told you so" card and no one would be able to counter him effectively.

Herrera is just terrified of losing possession, that's why he plays horribly. He should learn from Messi, Ini, Silva and other players who do hold the ball and have a little frame but those players play in advanced positions on the pitch.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 5:48pm On Nov 26, 2017
Can H'field do it! grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 5:52pm On Nov 26, 2017
chrisley024:
Can H'field do it! grin
they must do it oo...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 6:03pm On Nov 26, 2017
Man City go retaliate for 2nd half
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 6:08pm On Nov 26, 2017
dubylhover:
they must do it oo...
grin casted!
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 6:10pm On Nov 26, 2017
Leyqute:
Thank you. Chelsea didn't offer drab performances last season to win the league. Our players seem to be too relaxed and at ease. Sometimes it's as if they expect the opponent to hand them the 3 points without having to work for it.
People Dont seem to understand what we are saying.

if the essense of playing in the league is to win then we can never win the league with this drab lethargic and lackadaisical style of play. Yes we will win some games playing drab football but on the long run it can never help win us anything especially the EPL.

except we are playing to stay up and not to get relegated.
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