bitchcrafts:
Chai u can abuse oh.. But they have YouTube and the internet nah, so they are not as ignorant as yo claiming. And the EPL started in 92 after it broke away from the football league consequent from the abuse and repeat of the time, so what are you even saying? Do you expect the league to just "blow" like that from inception

Sagamite:


You are a cretin. Next time, don't make a stupid statement and think you can pull the wool over my eyes.

1wolex85:


Oga, it is stupid! If the original Ronaldo had started out at Real, would he have left? Yes or No. You are comparing PSV to Barca? Jeez

positivetaught:
don't get me wrong pls,I'm not comparing PSV n Barcelona, I was only narrating his career progression,how he started from small n even after playing for barca he still left n continued to be a success thus proving his greatness beyond doubt,this is the question mark messi need to erase in his career, like or not there is the assumptions that the barca setup make has help messi to his achievements n there is thus the doubt that outside of barca he may not succeed much,with his new contract he will live with that question forever worst of all if he isn't able to lead Argentina to glory in Russia next year.

KinzyeWriter:
Trashy topics you say... When proved Pele's point?

KinzyeWriter:
Messi wants international trophy... Messi needs to explore other club except Barcelona as you read in the article.

Pele was hindered for not playing in Europe, but his strength is the 3 world cup he won even though he is not the all time goal scorer.

Maradona has the most tiny weakness, to have played in Europe and won trophies and also a world cup in his international level.


Ronaldo has proven himself in the EPL by winning everything, in sporting, in Madrid, and international level.


Messi on the other hand risen into greatness with great players, and failed bunch of times in the international level... Now he hinders himself for being a one club man..

He is just a Barcelona legend bro

engrchykae:
a player that did not play in Barcelona,is that one a player?

engrchykae:
pele is a local champion and desperate glory seeking person.he claims 3 world cups as if he singlehandedly won Brazil the world cups.
He never mentioned that he had help from the Zicos and Socrateses of samba game.
Maradona,mario kempes and messi are what we call one man army,they take things personal when the rest of the players are down,these gods of the round leather game always prove to the fans why they wear the no: 10 jerseys.
They possess the ability of 10men and just one more help from friend as assists or from foe as a mistake committed will do.

Thylord:
better as in how pls

1kinggy:


Messi would only end up as a Barcelona legend. His position in other rankings would always be contested.

somehow:
Did he tell you he wants these or you are the one forcing him to want what you want?

He has beaten the best from the world and with just world cup left, I don't know what's else you need from him. He doesn't owe you anything.

Misterdhee1:


1. Pele played when competition weren't so tight in the world cup..He played alongside some of the greatest footballers of his generation in the Brazilian National Team. Club wise, he was no match for Messi..

2. Watch Maradona, nd tell me he is any better than Messi

3. Ronaldo left Manutd for Real (arguably the greatest football club in the world). Tell me he would have done the reverse if he had started out with Madrid.

4. You are so funny en. Henry, Eto'o, Ronaldinho, have all played in Barcelona. Even Delima and Figo, and none of these peeps were able to break ground at Europe and Spain for Barcelona like Messi has been doing.

Messi is 30 years old...He was groomed at Barcelona, taken care of by the club and has replicated the club's kind gestures over the years with scintillating performances. He doesn't need to go to a "smaller team" to prove his greatness...Only the most deluded of all delusional beings will tag "Messi A Barcelona legend."

Sagamite:


EPL is the most competitive league in the last 15 years. So I would say it is the strongest league.

That said, it does not have the best teams. Spain does!

KinzyeWriter:


No and you people should think twice when trying to call him greatest of his generation not to talk of all time.

Case closed.

KinzyeWriter:
Lol the only bragging right that is weightier than messi career goals 2x

3 world cup should be overlooked ?

When say technical, yes messi is technical and Pele claimed that, but that doesn't play a vital role in a footballer greatness, but with achievement in different Jersey whether at international level or club level... That is why maradona is better... That is why Ronaldo is better... Afterall

positivetaught:
don't get me wrong pls,I'm not comparing PSV n Barcelona, I was only narrating his career progression,how he started from small n even after playing for barca he still left n continued to be a success thus proving his greatness beyond doubt,this is the question mark messi need to erase in his career, like or not there is the assumptions that the barca setup make has help messi to his achievements n there is thus the doubt that outside of barca he may not succeed much,with his new contract he will live with that question forever worst of all if he isn't able to lead Argentina to glory in Russia next year.

1wolex85:


There is no question Mark! Messi started at the very top,the only club he can move to that is not a step down is Real Madrid and we all know he won't go there and even if he leaves for say Man City, the team will also be set up for him to succeed. Messi has succeeded in several Barca teams since 2003. Xavi has left, Iniesta is not as good as he used to be, Messi is still scoring beautiful goals and breaking records so what is your point? He is the top scorer in history for the Argentine national team, beating Maradona, Batistuta and Mario Kempes. He won an Olympic Gold Medal with Argentina, led them to the world cup final and 2 cops America finals, so the point that he can't do well outside Barcelona is pointless. If you ever get a job in chevron, please resign and move to phcn so you can prove to people that you can succeed somewhere else because that is exactly what you are saying Messi should do.

Iamthoney:
Competitive in what sense sir? When its champion couldn't dominate European club premier competition (UCL). If only La-Liga could match the money that's been use to run to the EPL you will see that EPL is truly a poo league.

Sagamite:


First of all, in the 90s, PSV was not a small club. It was one of the top clubs in Europe. Think of a club at the level of Monaco, Sevilla and Tottenham today.

In the late 80s and early 90s, it was churning out stars after stars that later became legends in bigger clubs or their respective countries like Romario, Gullit, Cocu, Koeman, Popescu and Ronaldo (R9).

The silly 'question marks' and 'assumptions' are from those that (1) don't know football, (2) are poor at analysis and reasoning and/or (3) are some partisan idiots, especially CR7 ones who want to say he did this and that at Man U (forgetting he did nothing at Lisbon).

What Messi is doing in Barcelona, no player in history has done in any big club, no matter the set up, set down, set 2, set 3, set 56, Setubal whatever. Not even Maradona did it Barcelona, not R9, not Romario, not Ronaldinho.

His ability is Godly and supreme!

He can score like CR7 and Pele. Even scores more goals from outside the Box 18 than both. YEP! Many of you would be surprised at that fact.

He can dribble and playmake like Maradona. He has done everything that one has done and did it more times.

KinzyeWriter:

Sorry.. He can score like Cr7? as in? Messi has scored that kind of insane long shot from outside box?

messi outside box goal doesn't matter because it is shot are not far from the box like cr7 has shoot in is career.

People please when trying to prove some things make sure you are more factual and detailed.

KinzyeWriter:

Messi and Cr7 are 2 different things.... Messi is the more talented guy than Ronaldo. But Ronaldo is the Most Completed Player Football Has Ever Seen.

KinzyeWriter:

Messi talent and desire to play football is the traits.

Ronaldo Determination and hunger for success is the key of his greatness. but many cr7 haters usually term this as selfishness, but when messi picks the ball from midfield and dribbles past everybody is not...

KinzyeWriter:

Cracks me up a lot when people say messi is supernatural ..Lols.. So what should we call a Natural being competing the supernatural and has won him in some occasions? Lmao.

KinzyeWriter:

Messi pleases people with is great dribbling skills that can be compared to that of Pele.

KinzyeWriter:

Ronaldo pleases is fans with his "I believe I am the best determination" he is a motivation, role model, yesterday he posted a video of his son at the academy, he scored a free kick.... There is a lot to be said about Ronaldo.


My Daddy enjoys watching Messi play... and he would say Messi is the best... I respect your opinion sir... but how close is Ronaldo? he is said he is no where close... I went straight to YouTube and showed him some Ronaldo clips, he was confused to say that again after that.

KinzyeWriter:

So these players have given people enough reason to prove their greatness, but when you say messi is the greatest of his generation it can be questioned as the article as clearly stated.


And when you say Cr7 is the greatest of his generation, he has his weakness too...


Both have being genuinely better in their own way.


If you ask anybody today who is the best and he said Ronaldo or the latter... he just mentioned who he loves playing.


Ronaldo was asked who is the best player at that time - he replied... himself and said not only that time he has always think of himself as the best player and has motivated him to where he is.


Messi was asked who is the best, he said there are many best players like xavi, neymar, iniesta, Cristiano, robben... but I will leave for people to decide.

The response of these two should tell you why people should stop being sentimental.

Leaving it for people to decide is the award they collect for their performance and dedication each season... so as long they are equal with the world best awards that should tell you that nobody is better than the other.


There greatness will later be remembered in history by their achievements.

So in this case messi will be remembered by his dribbling legacy.. and ronaldo the most hard worker and complete all round player football has ever seen.

I rest my case.

Sagamite:


This is pure nonsense point.

The insane shots you refer to are spectacular. Messi's goals are way above that, he scores beautiful magical goals. He scores goals that involves dribbling multiple people, dibbling legends. He scores more intelligent goals.

Picking up the ball and everyone trying to stop you by tackling you but can't until they pick up the ball from the back of the net is far more impressive and INSANE than taking an unexpected shot while defenders are lax.

So just saying Messi scores like CR7, is a privilege to CR7 because it is referring to rate of goals, not type of goals. Type of goals, Messi wins. And I am also being generous to CR7 because rate of goals in their career, Messi wins.



Please explain to me the completeness of CR7. This would be fun.



Messi would rather pass if it would lead to certainty of goal than Ronaldo would. Ronaldo would rather score himself.

There has been clips of him getting antsy when team mates score when they could pass to him. Messi would even forgo a freekick or penalty to team mates, Ronaldo would always insist on taking penalties or try the first freekicks because he is focused on his goals record. He is a goalscorer, not a complete player and he knows that, so he focuses on his goals far more than Messi. Messi has other things he can rely on to show his worth.

This is why people say he is selfish and Messi is not.



How as he won him sometimes?



Nonsense. It appears you don't know much about football. Pele is not in the realm of Messi's dribbling.

Maradona and Ronaldinho are.

Pele is not even in the realm of Iniesta.



Please show me the clips you showed him.

Let me help you intellectually dissect it.



Well, it can be questioned.

Everyone has a right to their opinion is not the same thing as every opinion is equally valid.

Opinion from intellectual & knowledgeable analysis and facts is far superior than opinion of excitable/misguided ignorance.

That is why I hardly have enough respect from awards based on "Public Vote" like BBC APoY.

Pure nonsense!

Sagamite:


Ronaldo (CR7) is well better than Cruyff.

obonujoker:


Alan Shearer
Wayne Rooney
Ryan Giggs

Cristiano Ronaldo....

positivetaught:
messi is good but his success over time is due largely to the wonderful array of supportive talents around him,he really need to clear all doubts by trying other environments, if not out of hate you certainly can't describe the EPL as a mickey mouse league.

Sagamite:


The league is competitive and more interesting.

In the EPL there are up to 6 strong teams and the gap between these 6 and the other teams is not as high as in other EU leagues. You have to wait till week 30 before you can have an idea who would win the league.

La liga has 2 very strong teams, 2 or 3 semi strong team, and the rest are like babies. The 2 strong teams are so strong, even stronger than EPL's 6, while the babies are like UK Championship league top teams. One of the 2 teams would win the league. Not competitive.

Bundesliga has 1 strong team, 1 semi strong team and the gap between them and other teams is high, and at the beginning of the season, you know which club would win the league. Not competitive.

Serie A has 1 stong team, 6 semi strong teams and the gap between these 7 and the other teams is not that high. But by week 20, you would have an idea who would win the league. Semi competitive.

It is not about dominating Europe. It is about how enjoyable/unpredictable your league is based on competition.

ebosse:



Ryan Giggs better than Henry?? I see, u r definitely a Man U fan.


Alan Shearer was voted EPL best ( most likely because he is British) with Henry on #2.

Maybe if CR7 had stay a little longer he would have been up there.

ebosse:



Fifa.com would disagree with U. In fact , 99% of all the sport blogs/site established b4 u were born would disagree. U think I'm lying? Do your research.


CR7 is a goal scoring machine. That's all he is..

Don't judge based on sentiment, be objective. Objectively CR7 is not even in the top 3.

KinzyeWriter:




Sorry.. He can score like Cr7? as in? Messi has scored that kind of insane long shot from outside box?

messi outside box goal doesn't matter because it is shot are not far from the box like cr7 has shoot in is career.

People please when trying to prove some things make sure you are more factual and detailed.


But Ronaldo is the Most Completed Player Football Has Ever Seen.





Cracks me up a lot when people say messi is supernatural


My Daddy enjoys watching Messi play... and he would say Messi is the best... I respect your opinion sir... but how close is Ronaldo? he is said he is no where close... I went straight to YouTube and showed him some Ronaldo clips, he was confused to say that again after that.

obonujoker:


What did Henry win with Arsenal individually and collectively that made him EPL greatest ever??

What did he win that these players didn't win?
Frank lampard
Steven Gerrard
Ryan Giggs
Wayne Rooney
Cristiano Ronaldo
Didier drogba??

obonujoker:


CR7 not in top 3.... who then is... Messi??

What has Messi won that Ronaldo hasn't won??[

ebosse:



Bro, this is were U r getting it wrong. Greatest player award ( just like ballon d'or) is an individual award not a team award.


John O'Shea won more than john terry yet you can never put them in the same class, one is regarded as one of the best to ever grace the EPL , the other is regarded as a player who played for a great team.

Football is more than who won.

That is why , every one (atleast 99% of football fans) rates JJ Okocha who never won anything more than Obi Mikel who is one of the most decorated African footballer .

That's why you have to always look pass the stats and actually watch the game.

I watched Henry played , and only 2 players ( CR7 and Luis Suarez) played @ the same level. Both CR7 and LS didn't stay in the EPL long enough.