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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 6:03pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
GloryIsaac:Make Uefa give us anyone. We go beat them.... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:03pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
elampiro:I get your point, the criticism of Lukaku, Lindelof and others have been valid based on their performance at certain match day (s)...In the end, we all want the best for the team... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kelvinze(m): 6:23pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
afrodoc2:Ozil is the likeliest and good signing for d Winter..I'd also prefer rose But Shaw is there. let's try see if we can get a good RW too |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Fussbot: 6:55pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Are people really praying we draw shaktar? Haaa! those guys are good oo. Even pep, after the first leg knew he wld not win at the return leg. I want sevilla.. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:07pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Fussbot:It's the knock out stage, to be the best, we've to square up against the best...If we get a very capable team, it just might force the hand of the board to strengthen our weak positions. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:14pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Lukaku's goal per minutes is below the other top scorers in the league. How did you reach your conclusion? Again, in the United team, the burden of scoring is on Lukaku, otherwise we should have settled for Ibrahimovic or Rashford. We didn’t buy Lukaku to score same goals as Ibrahimovic. We are thinking of 25-30 goals. In 2012/2013 When Van Persie, league second top scorer at the time was going 7 matches without goals, the fans started getting worried. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:42pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
raumdeuter: It's a lie. Stats prove me right These are goals per 90 minutes for EPL players with over 500 minutes of football this season Salah 1 goal per 90 minutes Aguero 0.9 Martial 0.9 Jesus 0.9 Sterling 0.9 Morata 0.7 Kane 0.7 Lacazette 0.7 Rooney 0.6 Hazard 0.6 Mane 0.6 Okazaki 0.6 Same 0.6 Murray 0.6 Courtinho 0.6 Lukaku 0.5 Dayo, will you now humbly withdraw your words accusing me of having an agenda against Lukaku? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:52pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Lukaku is actually number 30 if I add those players who have had less than 500 minutes of football. Giroud, Charlie Austin, Batshuayi, Crouch, Fellaini, Lingard, Vokes and others And someone is telling me "There is nothing going on with Lukaku that is different from other strikers in the league or other attackers in the club" |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 10:55pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Smfh? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:00pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Do other strikers have the responsibility of Lukaku? I showed you the heat map of 3 strikers all against the same opponent away you can clearly see which part of the field Lukaku was playing most of the time If you bring Aguero Lacazette Jesus Morata to Man Utd and the coach tells them to join in the left back to chase opponent play to the wings or start chasing defenders they will also not score as much Is Lukaku missing more chances than other striker? How many attackers in Man utd are doing well currently 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:09pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
raumdeuter: I did not see the other strikers score in the heat map you brought. Only 1 goal. Goals are scarce in big matches whether you play far from goal or close to it. Messi played in the box against Chelsea and didn't score in 180 minutes. Torres played at half line for a few minutes and scored. Even Drogba Is it not the same team Martial, Lingard and Fellaini play? How come they do better even when they play behind Lukaku? There are 29 players ahead of Lukaku, some from bottom teams that park the bus week in week out. United only park the bus against top 6. The other day, Lukaku took a penalty and missed. But you dey complain say Aguero dey score penalty. Even on that list many many of them don't take penalty. I end my case. But I hope Lukaku turns it around. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:26pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
elampiro: Bring any similar opposition that Aguero Lacazette Morata Jesus and Lukaku has played whether they scored or not and lets compare their heat maps Most game Man City will sit down in the opponents half and Aguero and will barely leave the opponent box, Same thing with Chelsea you wil see Hazard and Morata have almost no defensive responsibility but Lukku is expected to defend, chase down attackers and do many other jobs other strikers are not doing Is it not the same team Mikitaryan, Rashford, Mata are playing If we take away Agueros 3 penalties how many goals will he have? My own point is that Lukaku lack of goals can be traced to the tactical setup which plays him far away from the box unlike other strikers 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:44pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
You just have to wonder if some people are fans or just bad belle people. You watch our games and see how the coach deploys the team to play yet you overly criticize a player for not scoring like his mates who play to a different tactic and have less duties to perform on the pitch. And when this said player performs okay in a match, you term his energetic display as "poor". No one is saying he is the finished article- he still has to improve a number of aspects of his game but this censure is way overboard and getting annoying. Okay, we've heard you. Lukaku is a hopeless striker. Now let's move on. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:46pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Leyqute: I've come to terms with Ukaku's weaknesses (e dey pain shaa) ..... Who knows, Griezmann might just help his situation or Dybala.. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:48pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
KingTom: The man matter tire me .. I hope Shaw doesn't join this list anyway... Fellaini should still Foh! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:49pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Lana1: Hmm.. Lana, I just dey look this your comment with one eye |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 12:15am On Dec 08, 2017 |
LongD:He will this sunday. Dr. Kingtom, wataguan? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:57am On Dec 08, 2017 |
GloryIsaac:What is that weakness exactly and how is Griezmann or Dybala supposed to help? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:38am On Dec 08, 2017 |
eph12: Eph, abeg I don't have strength to argue with anyone. Ukaku is the best striker in the world and he's the most clinical of them all. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:08am On Dec 08, 2017 |
GloryIsaac:I am not trying to argue with you na. If you had said those guys will come to help the team I for no talk, but when you say they will come to help Lukaku become clinical I wanted to understand how that will happen. Maybe they will show him how to score goals in training They will be good additions to the team and not for Lukaku sake dazzal |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:22am On Dec 08, 2017 |
eph12: True that... Can't wait for Dybala |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuffRuggedRaw(m): 9:34am On Dec 08, 2017 |
raumdeuter: This assertion about Aguero is not correct. Maybe it is Jesus you refer to; but the Aguero I watch is not one that just 'idles' around in the box, he is always heavily involved in play. Only thing he doesn't do much of is defend from the front or chase down defenders! That said, ALL strikers these days 'rove'. They pop up all over the place in the forward areas. Which is why being a modern day #9 is hard. They have to hold up play, get the ball to the other player(s) around and then move into the box to meet a delivery. I am not for or against anyone in this 'Lukaku matter'. I just don't agree that he has 'more responsibility' than other 'top team strikers'. When it is not like Manchester United and Everton be mate! 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 10:01am On Dec 08, 2017 |
GloryIsaac: Which Dybala? Was it you the club sent to go and meet with his agent? Or is it Umokoro Dybala of Nkurukuru Fc? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 10:11am On Dec 08, 2017 |
eph12:I hope we play you guys, una go hear am. Ororo will tear De gea and the net |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 10:18am On Dec 08, 2017 |
GloryIsaac:na so una wait for Morata, wait for Grezman, wait for Ibro. Now it's Dybala, you can dream sha This Sunday City will beat Manu like mad. Lukaku will flop and Morinho will mourn |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 10:22am On Dec 08, 2017 |
Leyqute: 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:21am On Dec 08, 2017 |
raumdeuter: The truth is, I am not aware Lukaku has defensive responsibilities. He doesn't. Those days, Van Persie joined the defence to run down the time when we needed to hold a slim win. Also, in 2012/2013 we deployed defensive approach to our matches against City Liverpool and Chelsea. Van Persie and Rooney were able to give good account of themselves in overall play and still scored goals. For instance in our 3-2 win over City in 2012, we played Van Persie at half line, yet he scored the winning goal after Rooney two earlier goals were cancelled out. Did you see the number of players doing better than Lukaku in goals per 90 minutes. Why concentrate on Aguero? Why not pick Kane or Martial? If you played Salah in this Mourinho's team, he would score goals, just as Martial is doing. Just watch Liverpool and see Salah in right back marking opponents, within seconds he is in midfield receiving a pass and driving the ball down to the box to cause confusion to opposing defence. Watch Kane, you would see technical build up play and final positioning to score. Aguero can beat men, and he causes problem whenever and wherever he has the ball. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 11:23am On Dec 08, 2017 |
The assertion that a FAN should not criticise a player when he underperforms sounds extremely stupid and annoying to me. In as much as I think that this Lukaku argument has been overflogged, nobody has the right to attack anybody criticizing a player. Sometimes, constructive criticism can even help a player improve. That said, only a dishonest Man utd fan would belive that Lukaku has performed very well so far. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:24am On Dec 08, 2017 |
joeace2020: You trolling or what? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:25am On Dec 08, 2017 |
MoR2: FOH |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:05pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
MoR2:So u that is disturbing me on shekpe thread is a RM fan? Ororo ko kerosene ni |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 1:31pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
RuffRuggedRaw: Bring any top striker of a big club and lets compare him to Lukaku Take a game this striker has played and lukaku has also played e.g Say Aguero has played Team A away and Lukaku has played Team A away Let us compare the heat maps and let the people on here decide |
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