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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 6:39pm On Dec 08, 2017
Even in Super Eagles Kelechi is still struggling to keep the ball in his feet. It so sad. If you cant do something as primary as trapping a ball then you are finished.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:40pm On Dec 08, 2017
Joel Obi should be in Russia bar injury, I see him as someone who can control the midfield with or without Mikel on the field of play. He should go and learn from van perse on how he overcame his injuries.
forgiveness:


Joel Obi also had long periods of sustained performance for Inter milan for two seasons though he spent most times on the bench the second season.

Last season, he played 11 matches before he got injured and a total of 20 games but with limited time.

His case is not different from a Roben Arten but will drop Robben if your the coach because of his tendency of getting injury?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 6:40pm On Dec 08, 2017
somehow:
Man U Europa league? And you call that a success? BTW, how did they find themselves playing Europa? Have you forgotten the same mourinho sees Europa league as a waste of time?

When was the last time any English team got to the finals in both the Europa League and the Champions League.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:41pm On Dec 08, 2017
BTW, I obviously don't have an idea on how Iceland play.

Their strength
Weakness
Pattern of play
Danger men

What do you guys have on them?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 6:42pm On Dec 08, 2017
CaptainStephen:
Great thread, nice to be here

You're welcome Sir. Hope to see more of you here.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:43pm On Dec 08, 2017
We are talking Mourinho here and not English teams. Winning Europa to mourinho is a waste of time according to him so I wouldn't count that as success.
junnyjake:


When was the last time any English team got to the finals in both the Europa League and the Champions League.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:48pm On Dec 08, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Which means Echiejile is the only natural LB we have. Not a good development and people are setting him up for wing back.
Yes only Echiejele though Ebuhei Aina,Idowu can play both but they are more comfortable as RB.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 6:49pm On Dec 08, 2017
2innocent:
I think Joel Obi and Sylvester Igboun will be good addition to our midfield

No be only Igboun
You be him agent
The last time I checked he was a forward not a MF

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 6:51pm On Dec 08, 2017
somehow:
We are talking Mourinho here and not English teams. Winning Europa to mourinho is a waste of time according to him so I wouldn't count that as success.

You achieving something that has eluded almost everyone around you is success to me.

How many EPL coaches would like not to win the Europa. Now, I have never bought into the Mourinho's excessive hype. We all have know he's a man that talks too much and he can at times say things he may not mean.

Don't forget, Sir Alex Ferguson found himself in the Europa League and his side crashed out to one lowly Spanish team (Athletico Bilbao)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CaptainStephen(m): 6:52pm On Dec 08, 2017
junnyjake:


You're welcome Sir. Hope to see more of you here.
yes boss, thank you boss

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:52pm On Dec 08, 2017
OMANBALA1:
Even in Super Eagles Kelechi is still struggling to keep the ball in his feet. It so sad. If you cant do something as primary as trapping a ball then you are finished.
Honestly i didn't believe it until i watched Argentina match,well better for him to improve on it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 6:52pm On Dec 08, 2017
kentebemoney:

Non will be dropped.

Na defenders go plenty pass.
Defenders:
Troost
Leon
Kenneth
Echeijile
Aina
IDOWU
Ebuehi
Shehu
Awaziem

Midfield :
<b> Mikel obi </b>
Ndidi
Ogu
Onazi
Etebo

Attack :
Victor Moses
Simon moses
Kelechi iheanacho
Alex iwobi
Henry onyekuru
Odion ighalo

Keepers :
Just fill in three names wey u like.



I would rada drop one of d defenders and add a midfielder in a person like alhassan Ibrahim or Joel obi Or any oda person who can play d A.M.F role very well wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:59pm On Dec 08, 2017
You still don't get my point sir, to mourinho who stands as the subject matter here, Europa is useless and meaningless to him, so winning it is "meaningless". We are talking about you saying because he stopped behaving in a certain manner, he's now more successful than before which is totally wrong, he won more laurels when he was a pushy arogant coach than now that you say he's changed.
junnyjake:


You achieving something that has eluded almost everyone around you is success to me.

How many EPL coaches would like not to win the Europa. Now, I have never bought into the Mourinho's excessive hype. We all have know he's a man that talks too much and he can at times say things he may not mean.

Don't forget, Sir Alex Ferguson found himself in the Europa League and his side crashed out to one lowly Spanish team (Athletico Bilbao)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 7:02pm On Dec 08, 2017
shocked better thread like this even de. Hope am welcomed grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:07pm On Dec 08, 2017
Odunayaw:
shocked better thread like this even de. Hope am welcomed grin
Three Gbosa for you!welcome to a great thread.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:08pm On Dec 08, 2017
somehow:
BTW, I obviously don't have an idea on how Iceland play.

Their strength
Weakness
Pattern of play
Danger men

What do you guys have on them?

Iceland are "Bloody Organized". Difficult to break down and very good at set pieces. Argentina has some work on their hands in their opening game. Argentina will play their linear passing, high pressing and probing game. From what I have seen, if Iceland scores first from a set piece, that game is as good as over.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:31pm On Dec 08, 2017
femianski:
I am a Yoruba boy
I av been following sir forgiveness post
To be sincere I must say that he is being tribalistic trying to portray the Yoruba footballers better than the ibos

Attack my points.
Stating facts about player A with obvious talent is different from blindly defending player B based on tribal affiliation even when player B is not as talented as player A when comparison is made btw player A and player B.

If I have portrayed a player better than another then check and ask yourself if it is true and stop being bias.

It doesn't matter where the player comes from. Does it?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:33pm On Dec 08, 2017
Icon79:
Please closely watch Victor Moses when he plays for Chelsea versus when he plays for Nigeria. Let me tell you what you'd find:
He's still holding onto the ball too long when he plays for Nigeria, he doesn't do that in Chelsea. Granted he's playing in a different role.
He still engages in excessive dribbling when he plays for Nigeria, maybe not as bad as before but he still does that, but he has learned to release the ball promptly when he plays for Chelsea. Again, we gotta consider that he's playing in a different role at Chelsea.

Furthermore, and most importantly, it doesn't make a lot of sense to deploy your best and most creative player as a Wingback. He should be deployed in the final third creating and scoring goals. That's just like Chelsea playing Eden Hazard as RWB or Barca playing Messi in that role. Moses should have a free role in the midfield ... we need his trademark dribbles runs and incisive passes to unlock tight defenses.


O pari

Play him as a forward and put Ebuehi as a RWB na. Abi we dey fear?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 7:40pm On Dec 08, 2017
The only player I see breaking into this current SE if he remains fit would be Joel Obi. He'd be a better like for like substitute for Mikel as often times if Mikel gets subbed off, our midfield collapses. But in all we've got 6 more months to evaluate and observe as friendly games roll in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 7:45pm On Dec 08, 2017
blueto:
It is about playing him in where he will be most effective in the world cup and if you have been following this thread then you will have seen the reasons why I gave such submission.

And who says Nigeria can't play without a 9 if Moses is not playing an offensive role? The last time we played such, Moses was not on the pitch, and we got a good result.

Bros take it from me, Victor Moses is a constant in the forward line of the super eagles.

Iwobi scored two goals yes but his take on's on fast breaks were poor.
Watch his games with arsenal and the Argentina game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 7:45pm On Dec 08, 2017
forgiveness:


Joel Obi also had long periods of sustained performance for Inter milan for two seasons though he spent most times on the bench the second season.

Last season, he played 11 matches before he got injured and a total of 20 games but with limited time.

His case is not different from a Roben Arten but will you drop Robben if you are the coach because of his tendency of getting injured?

robben for all his injuries was always fit and ready for the dutch at major tournaments can we say the same for joel?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 7:46pm On Dec 08, 2017
elyte89:




I would rada drop one of d defenders and add a midfielder in a person like alhassan Ibrahim or Joel obi Or any oda person who can play d A.M.F role very well wink

Bros for this World Cup, na our defensive play go deliver us.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:48pm On Dec 08, 2017
The only way that would work is to play him upfront with Kelechi as a false 9 ... because VicMo certainly can't play upfront with Ighalo. But then where would that leave Iwobi?

Anyway, let's hope that Rohr was familiar with Mikel's role at Chelsea because our best option is a 3-5-2 formation ... but with Mikel being moved down to the #4 position.


O pari

Mujtahida:

Play him as a forward and put Ebuehi as a RWB na. Abi we dey fear?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:51pm On Dec 08, 2017
Kog45:
Yes 23 man list can absorbed eight defenders but i see defenders who are versatile making the team.

Shehu Abdullahi (midfielder/ RB)
Bryan Oladapo Idowu (RB/LB/WB)
Ebuhei (RB/LB/WB)
Aina Ola (RB/LB/WB)
Elderson Echiejele (LB)
*Leon Balogun (CB/RB)
*Troost Ekong (CB)
Awaziem (CB/RB)
Kenneth Omeruo (CB/RB)
Uche Agbo (CB/DM)

I pick Ekong and Leon now remain six to add cos am seeing Rohr picking eight.


Leon Balogun.
Troost Ekong
Awaziem
Echiejile

These are confirmed players going to the WC.

I will prefer we go to the WC with 7 of these players if Idowu is included because he can play as a CB and DMF too. And we also have Ndidi who can as well play comfortable on the CB position. Awaziem is also capable of play as a DMF.

I think Rohr should test them in those role in friendlies.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:52pm On Dec 08, 2017
Good point! But why not try to watch a few of their matches then we can analyze their strength and weaknesses. All it takes is a few youtube clicks away grin

I can assure you that most of their fans (Argentina, Croatia, and Iceland) are already very familiar with our team. Count on it!

O pari

somehow:
BTW, I obviously don't have an idea on how Iceland play.

Their strength
Weakness
Pattern of play
Danger men

What do you guys have on them?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 7:55pm On Dec 08, 2017
safarigirl:
we can't play Leon and Echiejile in such a line-up, except you want to kill Troost.

They are slow....so, Echiejile should be replaced with Awaziem, make Troost know where him struggle go dey.

Kelechi and Iwobi have a better understanding of each other than he and Vic Mo...I would play Vic Mo as a WB.

We tried Shehu there recently and it was disastrous, so he will have to sit it out in such a formation.
We don't hv d ability to play tiki-taka so we play to our strength, defensive discipline, quick fast breaks that requires ability to take on players to allow the wing backs attack the box, Victor Moses is the guy along side anybody else.

Playing him at wing back would be wasting our best attacking machine

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:04pm On Dec 08, 2017
kentebemoney:


I would play Victor Moses in place of iwobi and Kelechi iheanacho from the right cus he is left footed and plays with his head up.

My pairing of Iwobi and Iheanacho was based on what I saw but if Vicmo performs better with Iheanacho in our friendly matches, why not?

But I hope players are tested in ceetain roles before usingthem in the WC

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 8:04pm On Dec 08, 2017
safarigirl:
we can't play Leon and Echiejile in such a line-up, except you want to kill Troost.

They are slow....so, Echiejile should be replaced with Awaziem, make Troost know where him struggle go dey.

Kelechi and Iwobi have a better understanding of each other than he and Vic Mo...I would play Vic Mo as a WB.

We tried Shehu there recently and it was disastrous, so he will have to sit it out in such a formation.
If you re-watch the game against Argentina in the first half Leon was running with the ball with Aina advancing as a wing back should, leaving spaces behind for pavon to exploit but kept his shape in the 2nd half. All the 3 cb should do is to just keep their shape and we'll be fine.
Then for Shehu, i Belive he will learn fast we need him to play both wing back and full back, the guy good.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 8:07pm On Dec 08, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Are you gonna be using Shehu and Idowu as wing backs or what? If so, how well do you think they can adjust in that role....Remember we have tried Shehu there and it was disastrous.
He was tried for 45 minutes, let's see him in another. I Belive he will learn fast.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 8:11pm On Dec 08, 2017
forgiveness:


My pairing of Iwobi and Iheanacho was based on what I saw but if Vicmo performs better with Iheanacho in our friendly matches, why not?

But I hope players are tested in ceetain roles before usingthem in the WC
I hope so too.

I think we should master 3 at the back and one ultra defensive set up.
Na defense go help us for this World Cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:12pm On Dec 08, 2017
safarigirl:
it's a total of 8 defenders....if some inclusions look too bad, feel free to draft Shehu into the Midfield slots, so you can have 7 defenders...

You take players according to possible formations, do you not?
It can even be nine. I saw old newspaper report of France 98 Eagles squad. There were three gk, nine defenders, 5 midfielders and six attackers. Tomorrow I may snap it and send. it should be on the net though.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 8:19pm On Dec 08, 2017
junnyjake:



I get you.

But the way I de see am ehn. Rorh no go like pack pass 7 defenders o.
If we go with 7 defenders and play with a back 3, we go get only two subs,

Believe me, we'll play more games at the world cup with 3 at the back

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