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SIRcumalot:
we still fit win the UCL.

Bwahahaha with a Masterclass sef.

We can do it!!!

elampiro:
It's not easy to sign players like that. Mourinho signed Pogba, Matic, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku and Ibrahimovic. He gave a list of more players to the club, but these players are it available.

Mourinho is the the first manager trying to genuinely fix our midfield since 2006. SAF kept saying, players like Scholes and Giggs don't fall from the tree.

When we win we hail the coach and when we lose the coach should take the blame too. It is not even about the result but the fact that these players can't fight to win the ball back, exchange passes and pile up pressure on the opposition goal. We have shown we can do that when on a goal down. Why can't we maintain it throughout the match? Why do the players pass as if they don't train? It's as if the enrgy is not there, so we prefer to win the ball back in front of our goal instead of taking the fight to them. Mind you that we are not complaining because of the result because we made same observation when we won 4-0. So it is not as if we hail the coach when we win and call for his removal when we lose. The signs were there that teams that dare to attack will deal with us. Ibra was there last season when we struggled. You made excuses for Rooney that we were creating half chances and he had a back problem. Now it's Lukaku's turn the team is perfect but the striker is killing the team. Lukaku has never been a skilful player, he shouldn't be far from the goal as he does not have the energy to burst into the 18 for 90 minutes and run round the pitch like some other strikers. His limitations has always been there. But when City play us half field, have twice our possesion, the problem is Lukaku

elrony:
I think the crux here is the bad footie we play against top sides. Some fans may be okay with it on away games nonetheless, but not at Home FFS after spending better mula

If Mou continues like this, hope no go dey o ! (and I wouldn't mind chasing him outta Manchester United with broom and cutlass).

On Pochettino, I think he's a good manager sha, but if he'll succeed at United?....The spirit hasn't revealed!

Buh at least he doesn't play coward footie at home! !!

Not just the top sides. Watch our games against teams that dare to attack and you will see how awful we are either in possession or when we try to attack

elampiro:
Did LVG ever finished above Manchester City? No

The fact is that City won the league more recently and have been very strong contenders. In 2015/2016 when they looked weak, they had injuries to their most important players- Silva, Kompany, Zabeleta. Even De Bruyne and Aguero were not left out.

Sometimes the team that has less injuries flourish. Leicester were able to win the league because their key players stayed fit. Same with City team of 2011/12. Currently the City team has stayed injury free unlike Manchester United.

On Mourinho at Madrid, whether you like it or not, Mourinho closed the gap. Ferguson played that Barca team four times, all were defensive, even the 2008 semi final legs.

But is it to defend Lukaku you people hate on Mourinho?

It is a shame. This is corruption.

Has Mou finished above Man City too? If he does not (which looks most likely) he would have spent 2 seasons like LVG without finishing above City.

City last won the league 2013/14 the year after Fergie left. So this assertion about them being more recent as winners albeit true is neither here nor there.

That team you call wonderful were 2nd after that and 4th; in other words, they were declining. You want to praise that team all of a sudden and claim Mou did not inherit a good team.

Rashford, Martial who brought/bought them? Luke Shaw? Who made De Gea stay back? Herrera? LVG was never given a chance yet you easily give Mou one with nothing to show for it.

This current city team without Mendy, Kompany, Aguero (at some point), Stones etc has stayed fit? Because you want to excuse Mou?

Again, this argument about closing gap can be made my Pellegrini but nobody made it for him because he stayed only one season. In Mou's 3 years in Madrid he won 1 league, 1 copa, 1 kings cup. In that time frame Barca won 2 league titles, 1 UCL, 1 CWC, 1 European Super Cup, 1 copa, 2 king cups. Closing the gap indeed.

And BTW, he was packing the bus as well even with RM against Barca.

I am not knocking on his acumen as a manager as he is up there. But you are giving excuses for him but would rather blame everyone else. This is corruption. This is diabolical.

Na wa for this kind house of pain sef? Na bournemouth go end these tears anyway!

Happy birthday slimghost, may the odds favor you going forward...

funlord:
Na wa for this kind house of pain sef? Na bournemouth go end these tears anyway!

Lets hope bournemouth dont increase the tears.

codedguy1:
Lets hope bournemouth dont increase the tears.

As long as smalling and lukaku are rested all will be well! Shaw needs to play too....young should play 11 for once...that's his best role!

codedguy1:
Lets hope bournemouth dont increase the tears.

bro no matter d result tonight,we would stilm see complain here and there,even when we were winning 4 0,there was still complaints,I don't expect anything different here tonight..

elampiro:
Nothing wrong with Mourinho.

You guys have forgotten where he picked us from.

Let’s go back. Without Mourinho, Barca would have been doing what Bayern Munich is going in Bundesliga. Mourinho closed the gap between the two teams. That Barca team of that era was on a class of its own the whole world. With Ferguson, with Ronaldo, what did we do against Barca in 2009? After 12 minutes, we were forced to park the bus for the rest of the the match.

Mourinho returned to Chelsea to win the league because Chelsea were contenders the previous years. It was a stable team.

Guardiola went to City team that always finished top four and had previously won the league.

On the other hand, Mourinho went into a team that had overhauled players twice by two different managers who play different systems. First, the United team left by Ferguson was aged and played defensive against City and Chelsea since 2011/2012. We were even struggling against Tottenham and Everton.

Moyes took over and introduced this 'playing in zones' by our aged players who were previously used to sticking together. Many leading players also left in that era. Vidic, Ferndinand, Evra, Rafael, Giggs and the rest.

Gaal came in with his philosophy-pass the ball around, don't even risk losing it. We had hundreds of passes in our half everyday, even DeGea became a team player, but little penetrations. Mid-table teams and bottom teams just sat back and allowed us to pass in our half. When matches were going towards the end, our boys would be in a hurry pushing forward, then they concede a late goal. Only the big teams who were adventurous suffered from Gaal's philosophy, but sometimes they were unlucky. A particular match we beat City, I think 4-2, they would have been 3-0 up in 10 minutes.

Mourinho came, won two cups. For the first since SAF left, we are not at risk of not going to Champions League in December. We are still title contenders.

We have also not forgotten how much he has spent. Do you know where Conte picked Chelsea from? 10th position, Do you know where Pep picked City from 4th with 66 points Carling cup winner, Do you know where Mourinho picked Man Utd from? 5th with 66points FA cup winner.

Mourinho inherited young gems like Martial, Rashford, inherited Mata, Jones, Herrera DDG that is a core of a team that is average 25yrs and very talented. Did Pep inherit such? rather he inherited Old geriatrics like Zabaleta, Sagna Clichy Navas Kolarov, Kompany Yaya Joke Hart

Like eruditor said, Van gaal did not finish above City in 2yrs and the way its going Mourinho will not finish above City as well

And the quip about Real Madrid, well since Mourinho left, Madrid had won 3 CL and Barca has won 1. Madrid playing attacking football and being dominant again. That is not Mourinho fans will have us believe, they will want us to believe that without Mourinho philosophies of bus parking and playing dirty kicking the opponent, the whole football world will be worshipping Barca now

dubylhover:
its not about mincing words,d "change" is that mou needs to go and we wud automatically start playing attacking football and all or players would improve

I purposely replied like that, not exactly mentioning Mourinhos name.

either our style of play improves attack wise or mou gets out.

How come, all of a sudden we begin to attack when we go a goal down?



@ capitalcee You are asking if its a must we win the league this season?

Winning it next season is not our birthright, so you need to do all to win it every time.

You should have asked if it is a must we should aspire to win the league at all?

happy birthday slimghost.

slimghost:
Guys, it's my birthday today! Join and me thank God for the gift of life.

HBD.... Wish U LLNP!

raumdeuter:
We have also not forgotten how much he has spent. Do you know where Conte picked Chelsea from? 10th position, Do you know where Pep picked City from 4th with 66 points Carling cup winner, Do you know where Mourinho picked Man Utd from? 5th with 66points FA cup winner.

Mourinho inherited young gems like Martial, Rashford, inherited Mata, Jones, Herrera DDG that is a core of a team that is average 25yrs and very talented. Did Pep inherit such? rather he inherited Old geriatrics like Zabaleta, Sagna Clichy Navas Kolarov, Kompany Yaya Joke Hart

Like eruditor said, Van gaal did not finish above City in 2yrs and the way its going Mourinho will not finish above City as well

Conte inherited title winning team. We could almost say same for City.

Finishing 6th and 4th in one or two seasons is nothing compared to United that has struggled since 2013.

Mourinho inherited far poorer team than Conte and Guardiola

eph12:
Not just the top sides. Watch our games against teams that dare to attack and you will see how awful we are either in possession or when we try to attack

Are you insinuating #MouOut?

Eruditor:
Has Mou finished above Man City too? If he does not (which looks most likely) he would have spent 2 seasons like LVG without finishing above City.

City last won the league 2013/14 the year after Fergie left. So this assertion about them being more recent as winners albeit true is neither here nor there.

That team you call wonderful were 2nd after that and 4th; in other words, they were declining. You want to praise that team all of a sudden and claim Mou did not inherit a good team.

Rashford, Martial who brought/bought them? Luke Shaw? Who made De Gea stay back? Herrera? LVG was never given a chance yet you easily give Mou one with nothing to show for it.

This current city team without Mendy, Kompany, Aguero (at some point), Stones etc has stayed fit? Because you want to excuse Mou?

Again, this argument about closing gap can be made my Pellegrini but nobody made it for him because he stayed only one season. In Mou's 3 years in Madrid he won 1 league, 1 copa, 1 kings cup. In that time frame Barca won 2 league titles, 1 UCL, 1 CWC, 1 European Super Cup, 1 copa, 2 king cups. Closing the gap indeed.

And BTW, he was packing the bus as well even with RM against Barca.

I am not knocking on his acumen as a manager as he is up there. But you are giving excuses for him but would rather blame everyone else. This is corruption. This is diabolical.

You were trying to tell me Gaal beat City, so I showed you that despite that, he always finished below City. Where does Mourinho come in here?

City have always been title contenders. The season before Guardiola came, 2014/2015, City were top of the table in the beginning of the season. Injury finished them. Even during Christmas, they were just three points below Leicester.

If Silva, Kompany, Aguero, De Bruyne, etc stayed fit even for 70% of the season, City would have won the league.

funlord:
Na wa for this kind house of pain sef? Na bournemouth go end these tears anyway!

Bucket never full and you dey complain. .. wait for it! !!

eph12:
When we win we hail the coach and when we lose the coach should take the blame too. It is not even about the result but the fact that these players can't fight to win the ball back, exchange passes and pile up pressure on the opposition goal. We have shown we can do that when on a goal down. Why can't we maintain it throughout the match? Why do the players pass as if they don't train? It's as if the enrgy is not there, so we prefer to win the ball back in front of our goal instead of taking the fight to them. Mind you that we are not complaining because of the result because we made same observation when we won 4-0. So it is not as if we hail the coach when we win and call for his removal when we lose. The signs were there that teams that dare to attack will deal with us. Ibra was there last season when we struggled. You made excuses for Rooney that we were creating half chances and he had a back problem. Now it's Lukaku's turn the team is perfect but the striker is killing the team. Lukaku has never been a skilful player, he shouldn't be far from the goal as he does not have the energy to burst into the 18 for 90 minutes and run round the pitch like some other strikers. His limitations has always been there. But when City play us half field, have twice our possesion, the problem is Lukaku

Then Lukaku is not fit to play for is. Ibrahimovic didn’t play in the box throughout last season. We should get someone who can fit into the system.

Buy again Lukaku has played in the box in certain matches and still didn’t perform.

funlord:
As long as smalling and lukaku are rested all will be well! Shaw needs to play too....young should play 11 for once...that's his best role!

Smalling rest where? Abeg stop am.. my fpl is at stake here

dubylhover:
lol cos honestly I don't see who the replacement would b..is it poch?? that one that his team are known as chokers,yes he's an attacking coach but would he cope with the pressure at united? they said y mou was succeeding was becos he was mostly d underdog,I guess same can b said about poch,if he comes to united he won't b d underdog again,so who exactly are d fans expecting to replace mou to do magic on our team..

d main problem is that sir Alex is always brought up,but d fact is his time has passed,I even think sir Alex won't dominate this current epl with this set of players considering d quality other sides possess,so what's d fuss all about.

When he was at Southampton his team wasnt finishing top 4 but his attacking style and ideas were obvious and he was given a bigger stage to show it

When he got to Spurs he started pushing them to where they have never been in decades. They are legit top 4 contenders under Poch, when was the last time you could call SPurs that?

One thing about Poch is that he has guts. See the way he played Madrid, If i was Mourinho who got 4 points out of 6 from Madrid this season we would have been hearing how

Before Mourinho made us believe its only by defensive and kicking that you can survive dominants teams like Barcelona but we have seen other coaches do the opposite and get results even against dominant teams

You cant have a Ferrari and be driving it at 30miles per hour, that is what Ronaldo complained about, How can a whole Ronaldo be the one marking Puyol, How can Rashford and Martial be the one to be marking Delph and Walker?

WHen Ronaldo was unleashed by other attacking coaches we all saw what he did, I can authritatively say if Pep was the one who took over Man Utd 2yrs ago and Mourinho took over City, City fans will be the ones lamenting and telling everyone that its because of supreme talents like Pogba Mata Rashford and Marial

Elampiro still dey ontop Lukaku matter?






Revenge time!!!!

codedguy1:
I purposely replied like that, not exactly mentioning Mourinhos name.

either our style of play improves attack wise or mou gets out.

How come, all of a sudden we begin to attack when we go a goal down?



@ capitalcee You are asking if its a must we win the league this season?

Winning it next season is not our birthright, so you need to do all to win it every time.

You should have asked if it is a must we should aspire to win the league at all?

I am not saying we should nt wiñ the league, we deserve to, but when we try and we fail to win it, we learn from our mistakes and move ahead for next time. The downfall of a man is not the end of his life.
Last season Chelsea won it, This season it seems city will win it, next year it might be another.
I am not defending anybody o, but there is a huge improvement from from last 2 years and last year. Na small small we will get there, it musnt be with Jose, but the team is progressing.
If you check very well all those players that Van gaal bought, only martial is a good buy despite spending almost 300m. It seems van gaal even spent more than Jose, but Jose have done far far better than him.

So let's be patient it shall be well.

elampiro:
Conte inherited title winning team. We could almost say same for City.
Finishing 6th and 4th in one or two seasons is nothing compared to United that has struggled since 2013.
Mourinho inherited far poorer team than Conte and Guardiola

The team Conte made first in record time was the same one Mourinho took to relegation and was complaining how poor they were
City finished 4th in 66 points, Man Utd finished just goals difference behind City same 66points
How can a person who inherited DDG Martial Mata Rashford, Blind, Shaw, Jones, Herrera and say its a poorer team

Before either Pep or Mou took over LvG beat City twice and drew once. But we are to believe City is better

I won't mind if we bench ukaku today make Ibra start.

SIRcumalot:
I won't mind if we bench ukaku today
make Ibra start.

Hr needs his confidence back. Benching him will do more harm than good. He has to redeem his image.

elampiro:
You were trying to tell me Gaal beat City, so I showed you that despite that, he always finished below City. Where does Mourinho come in here?

City have always been title contenders. The season before Guardiola came, 2014/2015, City were top of the table in the beginning of the season. Injury finished them. Even during Christmas, they were just three points below Leicester.

If Silva, Kompany, Aguero, De Bruyne, etc stayed fit even for 70% of the season, City would have won the league.

And in addendum, let's imagine Pogba and was not injured and KDB and Silva were out for 2 months, due to injury. And then KDB again was suspended for the Manchester derby, may be we might be looking at another different Table. Mind you this is not a defence for Jose.

raumdeuter:
The team Conte made first in record time was the same one Mourinho took to relegation and was complaining how poor they were
City finished 4th in 66 points, Man Utd finished just goals difference behind City same 66points
How can a person who inherited DDG Martial Mata Rashford, Blind, Shaw, Jones, Herrera and say its a poorer team

Before either Pep or Mou took over LvG beat City twice and drew once. But we are to believe City is better

Mourinho won the league with that same team Conte inherited. The players gang up against him the next season because Mourinho sacked their doctor. Some of them allegedly had informal relationship with her. They met at nights.

But Mourinho inherited a vastly inexperienced team without active leaders.

How can you compare any of the players you listed above to Aguero, Silva,L and Kompany. Not to add Fernadinho and De Bruyne. Abeg Guardiola inherited a very experienced team.

elampiro:
You were trying to tell me Gaal beat City, so I showed you that despite that, he always finished below City. Where does Mourinho come in here?

City have always been title contenders. The season before Guardiola came, 2014/2015, City were top of the table in the beginning of the season. Injury finished them. Even during Christmas, they were just three points below Leicester.

If Silva, Kompany, Aguero, De Bruyne, etc stayed fit even for 70% of the season, City would have won the league.

Was it not injuries that finished LvG and Man Utd also? Or why did Rashford Fosu Mensah and co start playing regularly

I remembered the day Rashford started vs Arsenal. Man Utd had no striker available.

In 2015/16 No team including City never faced the type of injury crisis Man Utd and van gaal faced. Maybe if LvG too didnt have all these injuries Man Utd could have finished stronger

Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal says the club's injury crisis is very "difficult to understand".

United are without 10 players for their Premier League game against West Ham at Old Trafford on Saturday, including central defenders Phil Jones, Chris Smalling and Jonny Evans and new signings Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera. Tyler Blackett is missing through suspension after his red card in the 5-3 defeat at Leicester City last weekend.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/29361879

Van Gaal confirms Manchester United injury crisis has got WORSE after Shrewsbury win
Man Utd were already without 13 first-team players before the 3-0 win over the League One side in the FA Cup.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/van-gaal-confirms-manchester-united-10935054

elampiro:
Then Lukaku is not fit to play for is. Ibrahimovic didn’t play in the box throughout last season. We should get someone who can fit into the system.

Buy again Lukaku has played in the box in certain matches and still didn’t perform.

Ibra was one of our problems last season. He couldn't score an open net against city at Old Trafford.

Didn't perform as in couldn't score? How many big chances has he lost per game compared to other top strikers?

elampiro:
Mourinho won the league with that same team Conte inherited. The players gang up against him the next season because Mourinho sacked their doctor. Some of them allegedly had informal relationship with her. They met at nights.

But Mourinho inherited a vastly inexperienced team without active leaders.

How can you compare any of the players you listed above to Aguero, Silva,L and Kompany. Not to add Fernadinho and De Bruyne. Abeg Guardiola inherited a very experienced team.

LMAO So you believe the gang up story? Chelsea players ganged up against him, Madrid players ganged up against him, I am sure if he gets sacked by Man Utd, we will hear how someone ganged up against him, Maybe its the FA, the players, the media the fans or the grass

Guardiola inherited a team that was past it. How many games has Kompany played since Pep took over, Its like saying Mourino inherited Carrick

CapitalCee:
And in addendum, let's imagine Pogba and was not injured and KDB and Silva were out for 2 months, due to injury. And then KDB again was suspended for the Manchester derby, may be we might be looking at another different Table. Mind you this is not a defence for Jose.

The two players for Pogba? Wow

raumdeuter:
The team Conte made first in record time was the same one Mourinho took to relegation and was complaining how poor they were
City finished 4th in 66 points, Man Utd finished just goals difference behind City same 66points
How can a person who inherited DDG Martial Mata Rashford, Blind, Shaw, Jones, Herrera and say its a poorer team

Before either Pep or Mou took over LvG beat City twice and drew once. But we are to believe City is better

Dayo, Guardiola inherited KDB, Silva, Kompany, Sterling, Fernadinho and Aguero. Juxtapose it with those names you mentioned above. Only DDG and Martial are good, Rashford is still a youngster while the rest are passengers.