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raumdeuter:
James Rodriguez was bought by Madrid meaning there was something good about him, same way Rojo was bought by Man Utd

Sterlings highest return in any season is 11 goals. This season will be the first time he will go beyond 11 goals

11 is not a poor return for a winger. Rashford a striker have not exceeded that tally a season.
I thought you said Charisteas and Grosso were off examples.
He was bought by Madrid but flopped same way we all thought Rojo flopped before Jose turned him around.

If wining the World cup or playing in the final is any yardstick. Why didn't Pep win UCL at Bayern, he hard.
Alonso, Kroos, Bastian, Gotze, baoteng, Meier all world cup winners while Ribery and Robbem are world cup finalists

eph12:
I didn't want to talk since because everyone decided to follow the crowd. He shot at goal but the keeper produced a great save but it's Lukaku fault. I even thought he ballooned the ball to throw in.

Lukaku's shot was actually better than Mata's. Lukaku got a really fast moving ball and his shot hit Ederson's face while Mata just blasted it into the keeper's body.

People will always talk about Lukaku because he's the new comer and costs more.

CapitalCee:
11 is not a poor return for a winger. Rashford a striker have not exceeded that tally a season.
I thought you said Charisteas and Grosso were off examples.
He was bought by Madrid but flopped same way we all thought Rojo flopped before Jose turned him around.

If wining the World cup or playing in the final is any yardstick. Why didn't Pep win UCL at Bayern, he hard.
Alonso, Kroos, Bastian, Gotze, baoteng, Meier all world cup winners while Ribery and Robbem are world cup finalists

Rashford is used as a wing forward f=just like Sterling and in his only full season he already had 11 goals
Grosso was bought by Inter Milan and later Juventus. Rojo did not flop before Mourinho he was always injured

Zidane and even Ancelotti has done more for Madrid than Mourinho ever did. These are the only 2 coaches in Madrid who have spent a full season after Mourinho

eph12:
I didn't want to talk since because everyone decided to follow the crowd. He shot at goal but the keeper produced a great save but it's Lukaku fault. I even thought he ballooned the ball to throw in.

I can never blame a player who shoots on goal and in this case tested the keeper, meaning it was on target.

even the one against CSKA he was under pressure and can be forgiven.

my grouse with Lukaku is that he can't hold the ball to bring other players into the game which is as a result of the defensive style Mourinho deploys, a style that will make our striker to start learn how to be a midfielder.

that's why mou is the problem.

CapitalCee:
I don't know what will happen next season, let the team keep improving, if the board feel mourinho is not satisfying the club's objective he should be sacked. But saying the team did not improve is unfair. Chelsea was conquering everybody last season And conte was the God, this season he is clueless according to the same fansME. Next season, may a few injuries and suspensions to city, coinciding with few poor referring decisions against them, the narrative might change.

If you ask me, I think Jose should stay on, he will definitely win something big.

Pls be honest with your personal opinions

codedguy1:
OK no problem.

But improvement again is relative. Like I pointed out before, if a team finishes 2nd on the log with 80points in a season and then finishes 2nd again in the next season. Has that team improved or not?

Points are usually compared with the same period of a previous season and this is in the hope that if after 16 games a team has 30points and now has 40points the next season after 16games. it can be seen as an improvement with the hope that if the momentum is sustained they could do better by the end of the season.

but again for if you improve your points haul from previous season an still end up not winning the then.... For a big club like united it means nothing oo.

Bro, Only 1 team will win the league. United improved both in point haul and position so far. It's not their fault that city dropped only 2 points after 16 games check the other leagues which team have the kind of point total that city has. In those Fergie hay days he used to drop many points earlier but later recover, but with this kind of city's form which no one envisaged before the season started one can't help it. In some leagues we will be firmly in control of the title race.
Do not forget that this team was languishing in Europa last season, No one is happy that we are now behind by 11 points or we are playing bad football, let's just find succor in the fact that the team improved from last season, and pray for the best.
Jose is not the best manager with the best tactics, but we all knew this before he came, let him redeem us first from the doldrums like he did Madrid then we can let him go and find a more sexy football manager. Just my opinion though

raumdeuter:
These are links calling Sterling a big flop https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/593151/Liverpool-Chelsea-Raheem-Sterling-Manchester-City-Shaun-Wright-Phillips
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/1363356/england-flop-sterling-steps-off-plane-after-humiliating-defeat-and-insults-fans-by-showing-off-blinging-house/

Mata in Chelsea before Mourinho was seen as equal or at worst close to Silva. It was Mourinhos aversion for plamakers that marked the end of Matas career. Give Silva to Mourinho and you will see him detailed to mark Fellaini

Rojo was named in the 2014 world cup All star team. That has to count for something

Really!? Lemme give you just 1 name of a playmaker OZIL .

Mou's famous formatioin is 4-2-3-1, using 3 AM, which includes a number 10.

Lemme even mention Fabregas, so how does Mou have an aversion for playmakers

BlueAngel444:
Pls be honest with your personal opinions

I have never stated this about Conte or any manager in real terms. I understand and respect the opponents strengths, that is why I don't go ballistic when we lose.
Infact its most of your fans that are the greatest culprits in labelling Conte as clueless.

CapitalCee:
Bro, Only 1 team will win the league. United improved both in point haul and position so far. It's not their fault that city dropped only 2 points after 16 games check the other leagues which team have the kind of point total that city has. In those Fergie hay days he used to drop many points earlier but later recover, but with this kind of city's form which no one envisaged before the season started one can't help it. In some leagues we will be firmly in control of the title race.
Do not forget that this team was languishing in Europa last season, No one is happy that we are now behind by 11 points or we are playing bad football, let's just find succor in the fact that the team improved from last season, and pray for the best.
Jose is not the best manager with the best tactics, but we all knew this before he came, let him redeem us first from the doldrums like he did Madrid then we can let him go and find a more sexy football manager. Just my opinion though

So can you tell elampiro to lay off Lukaku?

raumdeuter:
Rashford is used as a wing forward f=just like Sterling and in his only full season he already had 11 goals
Grosso was bought by Inter Milan and later Juventus. Rojo did not flop before Mourinho he was always injured

Zidane and even Ancelotti has done more for Madrid than Mourinho ever did. These are the only 2 coaches in Madrid who have spent a full season after Mourinho

Bought by inter and jive is not an achievement what did he do there.
Zidane yes, Ancelloti won the champions league, mourinho won the league they are relative

CapitalCee:
Same with James Rodriguez, like I said Rojo was known due to his good performance in his NT.
Angelo Charisteas was in Euro 2004 team ahead of Thierry Henry, Raul, Van Nistelrooy and Zlatan. Why didn't Barca or Madrid buy him. Fabio Grosso of Italy nko, why did he not replace Evra and Ashley Cole in United and Chelsea.

The link you put there, was the fallout of their humiliating defeat against Iceland, Every player that participated in that game were termed flops, nothing to do with club form, Sterling was highlighted due to his open lack of remorse.

Yes Mata was on fire before mourinho but was ignored for Silva, Fab and Iniesta in Spain. Mata is a poor man's Silva. Are we really debating this?

Do you think Silva would have done better in ManU?

Di Maria tried to drag a team that refused to move, and he was termed flop so he left and joined a better team.

CapitalCee:
But i thought the agreement was that he is coming to finish off the smaller teams which we couldnt win last season to turn our draws to wins against lesser opposition

i still believe that.
we also need ibra to start going too. he looked really bad against city.
ukaku can get back to starting proper for our weekend game. that way nobody go say his under any kind punishment.

BlueAngel444:
Really!? Lemme give you just 1 name of a playmaker OZIL .

Mou's famous formatioin is 4-2-3-1, using 3 AM, which includes a number 10.

Lemme even mention Fabregas, so how does Mou have an aversion for playmakers

You no know Dayo? Joe Cole nko, Deco nko, Sneidjer nko, what is Pogba doing now,

elampiro:
Ibrahimovic is old, and was brought to fill a gap in the transition.

If Lukaku cannot take the mantle of leading the line for the future Manchester United, let us get Aubameyang. We can still get Costa who might service us for two years.

HOW

I didn't know devils had dreams not to talk of silly daydreams

SIRcumalot:
i still believe that.
we also need ibra to start going too. he looked really bad against city.
ukaku can get back to starting proper for our weekend game. that way nobody go say his under any kind punishment.

True,
So what it means is he wasn't even brought in for teams like city.

Leyqute:
Forget about resting. Lukaku is a youngster.

He's been on a goal drought and then he had a stinker against City. He'll want to prove he's worth something again, what with the way he's being mocked all over social media. Getting back on the horse immediately is the logical thing to do, and I'm sure Mourinho will oblige him.

It's like when Fellaini gave away a penalty against Everton and was heavily criticized. His performances in the next games were his best in a Man Utd shirt.

he already don score for that champion league match.
if he no score for that game i no go advocate make we bench am.

my point is that ukaku scoring four goals against this brighton no go change anything but rather reinforce wetin the media go talk.
i would even like to see them start together and not the style wey jose go shunt ukaku go wing, two of them,in a 4-4-2.

BlueAngel444:
Do you think Silva would have done better in ManU?

Di Maria tried to drag a team that refused to move, and he was termed flop so he left and joined a better team.

Do Maria did very well at real for Mourinho. Silva is far far better than Mata. He will definitely do well, a good player is a good player. Look at Matic

codedguy1:
I can never blame a player who shoots on goal and in this case tested the keeper, meaning it was on target.

even the one against CSKA he was under pressure and can be forgiven.

my grouse with Lukaku is that he can't hold the ball to bring other players into the game which is as a result of the defensive style Mourinho deploys, a style that will make our striker to start learn how to be a midfielder.

that's why mou is the problem.

You are very spot on here

eph12:
So can you tell elampiro to lay off Lukaku?

He can suit himself.

BlueAngel444:
Really!? Lemme give you just 1 name of a playmaker OZIL .
Mou's famous formatioin is 4-2-3-1, using 3 AM, which includes a number 10.
Lemme even mention Fabregas, so how does Mou have an aversion for playmakers

His use of playmakers is to make them work hard and harry attackers. He blamed Hazard for not marking, preffered Mata over Oscar because he can mark, Mikitaryan KdB, Kaka

CapitalCee:
Bought by inter and jive is not an achievement what did he do there.
Zidane yes, Ancelloti won the champions league, mourinho won the league they are relative

That is an achievement on its own, If he wasnt good those top teams wont but him actually 2 top teams bought him

Mourinho won the league Just like Schuster Capello and Zidane. Winning the CL is something special.

CapitalCee:
True,
So what it means is he wasn't even brought in for teams like city.

i wouldn't put it like that.
ukaku his a fine striker just more effective against some type of teams.
not saying it is a bad thing. after all na still three points.

raumdeuter:
His use of playmakers is to make them work hard and harry attackers. He blamed Hazard for not marking, preffered Mata over Oscar because he can mark, Mikitaryan KdB, Kaka

Hazard won his only EPL player of the year under mourinho. Deco, Sneidjer, Pogba, Fabregas and Ozil are others who flourished under him. Didnt Fabregas fail under Pep, how about Hleb who was imperious at Arsenal didnt he fail under Pep? What is the reason for their failure under attacking Pep

Jose stock as an elite coach just dey plummet.
i wonder where all this links to PSG dey come from ?
he has to make waves with us first.

raumdeuter:
That is an achievement on its own, If he wasnt good those top teams wont but him actually 2 top teams bought him

Mourinho won the league Just like Schuster Capello and Zidane. Winning the CL is something special.

That he did it with Porto and inter is more special

Joining juve and inter is an achievement for a world cup winner

SIRcumalot:
Jose stock as an elite coach just dey plummet.
i wonder where all this links to PSG dey come from ?
he has to make waves with us first.

If his stock fails its better we offload him

CapitalCee:
If his stock fails its better we offload him

if doesn't at least win like the UCL or the league with us this season Neymar won't hire him.
plus this defensive football stuff don dey follow am around like bad odour for sometime,he no fit shake am again.
make he just own am at this point.

CapitalCee:
11 is not a poor return for a winger. Rashford a striker have not exceeded that tally a season.
I thought you said Charisteas and Grosso were off examples.
He was bought by Madrid but flopped same way we all thought Rojo flopped before Jose turned him around.

If wining the World cup or playing in the final is any yardstick. Why didn't Pep win UCL at Bayern, he hard.
Alonso, Kroos, Bastian, Gotze, baoteng, Meier all world cup winners while Ribery and Robbem are world cup finalists

Lemme understand something, you are in support of Mou while raumdeuter is against. That is to say to you believe Man U's first team lacks quality while raum believes they do but feels it's Mou's fault because of his style.

I got it, right!

Mou should bench Lukaku this night.. For him to take correction and know he can be dropped if he fails to improve

Leyqute:
Lukaku's shot was actually better than Mata's. Lukaku got a really fast moving ball and his shot hit Ederson's face while Mata just blasted it into the keeper's body.

People will always talk about Lukaku because he's the new comer and costs more.

True

CapitalCee:
That he did it with Porto and inter is more special
Joining juve and inter is an achievement for a world cup winner

WHile he has done with underdogs like Porto and Inter, He has failed to do with dominant traditional names like Madrid and Chelsea who have both gone to win after Mourinho left

Joining Juve and Inter is a testament to his quality for a top club to desire him

BlueAngel444:
Lemme understand something, you are in support of Mou while raumdeuter is against. That is to say to you believe Man U's first team lacks quality while raum believes they do but feels it's Mou's fault because of his style.

I got it, right!

Man Utd has enough quality to play better if they had an attacking coach like Pep