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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:26pm On Dec 13, 2017
eph12:
Every great striker must have had horrible misses, even Shearer and Henry
Lukaku no fit score solo goals wey those guys score o.

I don't know about their misses, but I am sure those guys won big matches for their clubs scoring impossible goals and clear cut chances with aplomb.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:26pm On Dec 13, 2017
chic2pimp:
Nah Mano o mano, City's had a better team which was evident from both team's performance in the league and Europe.

Tbh I could also say Jose inherited deadwoods like Young,Shaw,Valencia etc. If United were to release any of those aforementioned players, the only teams that'll be fighting for their signatures would be newly promoted or relegation threatened ones.
Performance in the league both were the same Both Man utd and City finished level on points

Both Man utd and city won domestic cups, City won the more useless Carling while Man utd won the FA cup

City were knocked out by Madrid in the CL, Man utd were knocked out by Klopps Liverpool in Europa
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:27pm On Dec 13, 2017
raumdeuter:
Players are not only bought for first team spots alone, players are also bought to be backups. Cesc and Hleb were bought to be backups. Cesc as a long term Xavi replacement but Xavi didnt wane in powers and Cesc became impatient same thing with Thiago

Oh if Seydou Keita is not a flop, then how is fabregas who played 151 games for Barcelona scored 42 goals and gave 57 assists a flop all in 3 seasons Thats an average of over 50 games per season average of 14 goals and 19 assists per season

Can you prove that Joe Coles best season was under Mourinho Deco was brought to limelight by Mourinho but his best years were in Barca with Rijkaard

It still remains to be seen if this will be Pogbas best season ever
Joe Coles best season was under Jose quote me. Anywhere.
Deco played his best football under Rijkaardhuh What happened to the deadly midfield combination of Maniche, Deco and Costinha which formed the foundation of the Portuguese world cup semi-final finish in 2006.
Pogba is flourishing under Jose now, there is nothing remaining to be seen.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:29pm On Dec 13, 2017
raumdeuter:
How much did Mourinho spend on the team that finished level on points with City?
Mourinho took over a team that finished 7th, 4th and 5th. And regurlaly playing the Europa league, while the team pep took over finished 1st, 2nd and 4th. And are champions league semi-finalist. Yet he spent far more
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:32pm On Dec 13, 2017
elampiro:
Look for the video that shows it from the angle in first screenshot below.

Not the second angle.

You would see that the keeper was already moving away from his tight post into the middle and Lukaku still shot into the middle. He didn’t try to direct it.
I was talking about Ferdinand's own goals. You claim no United players have done what Lukaku did. His offence was to try clear the ball but ricochet back. If he hadn't touched the ball, the city player behind him would have scored the goal. His poor nodding for the first goal is the only one I can have his head for.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elnino4ladies: 8:33pm On Dec 13, 2017
Oasis007:
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Me too....... except a Guy with nice Pose!
You deserve two weeks ban LMAO
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:33pm On Dec 13, 2017
BlueAngel444:
But so far do you believe Lukaku was worth spending [/b]100m[/b] for, would any other available striker at the time done better?
Where did you pull out that figure from? Same thing is usually said for martial for whom monaco was paid 35.8m and will be paid 58m only if the Frenchman wins ballon dor but people keep stating the later figure.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:34pm On Dec 13, 2017
CapitalCee:
Joe Coles best season was under Jose quote me. Anywhere.
Deco played his best football under Rijkaardhuh What happened to the deadly midfield combination of Maniche, Deco and Costinha which formed the foundation of the Portuguese world cup semi-final finish in 2006.
Pogba is flourishing under Jose now, there is nothing remaining to be seen.
I dont need to quote you anywhere on Joe Cole, provide the stats that showed Joe Coles productivity under Mourinho and post Mourinho

That pales in comparison to what Deco did in Barcelona

Is this Pogbas best season ever? Are you sure I cant point to some seasons in Juve where he has done better
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:34pm On Dec 13, 2017
BlueAngel444:
But so far do you believe Lukaku was worth spending [/b]100m[/b] for, would any other available striker at the time done better?
Where did you pull out that figure from? Same thing is usually said for martial for whom monaco was paid 35.8m and will be paid 58m only if the Frenchman wins ballon dor but people keep stating the later figure.

Lukaku has done well so far, 13 goals in 22 games is a return for any striker. Though he needs to improve some areas of his game
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 8:34pm On Dec 13, 2017
raumdeuter:
I am open to be convinced

Before Mourinho got into the life of Hazard in 2012/13 he had 13 goals 24 assists in all comps thats 37 goals + assists

So you can go ahead and convince me
Hazard, when Mourinho got into his life during the 2nd spell in Chelsea was 37 goals 22 assists in all comps except Belgium, that is 59 goals + assists.

I stand to be corrected tho.

So, Egbon Dayo does this stats show JMs influence in Hazard's life? Hazard was definitely better and improved his stats when JM came into his life.

Are you convinced?

cc Capitalcee.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:35pm On Dec 13, 2017
codedguy1:
Na until game start we go know whether na attacking lineup or not.
it can be a defensive attacking lineup.
Lmao!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:35pm On Dec 13, 2017
elampiro:
Lukaku no fit score solo goals wey those guys score o.

I don't know about their misses, but I am sure those guys won big matches for their clubs scoring impossible goals and clear cut chances with aplomb.
You have introduced another thing into your arguments like you always do. Did they also have horrible miss yes or no? How does their solo goals change the fact that they also failed to score goals people were already celebrating for?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:36pm On Dec 13, 2017
CapitalCee:
Mourinho took over a team that finished 7th, 4th and 5th. And regurlaly playing the Europa league, while the team pep took over finished 1st, 2nd and 4th. And are champions league semi-finalist. Yet he spent far more
Mourinho took over a team that finished the league with 66points
Pep took over a team that finished the league with 66points

Mourinho took over a team that won the FA cup
Pep took over a team that won Carling cup

Mourinho took over a team knocked out by Liverpool in Europa
Pep took over a team that knocked out by Madrid in the CL

Give us evidence that Pep has spent FAR more
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:37pm On Dec 13, 2017
Skimpledawg:
Hazard, when Mourinho got into his life during the 2nd spell in Chelsea was 37 goals 22 assists in all comps except Belgium, that is 59 goals + assists.

I stand to be corrected tho.

So, Egbon Dayo does this stats show JMs influence in Hazard's life? Hazard was definitely better and improved his stats when JM came into his life.

Are you convinced?

cc Capitalcee.
2012/13 Hazard had 37 goals + assists in all comps for Chelsea without Mourinho

Mourinho joined 2013/14 now show me Hazards stats under Mourinho and lets compare to whe 37 g+ a before Mourinho
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:38pm On Dec 13, 2017
eph12:
I was talking about Ferdinand's own goals. You claim no United players have done what Lukaku did. His offence was to try clear the ball but ricochet back. If he hadn't touched the ball, the city player behind him would have scored the goal. His poor nodding for the first goal is the only one I can have his head for.
If it were so common to make such mistahes, Vidic, Ferdinand, Terry, etc would have stamp opponents 100 times in their career. Or our previous strikers.

It was a bad clearance. He could have used his head by moving two steps forward while the ball was in flight. He could have used his stronger foot. Evra used one leg to clear throughout.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:40pm On Dec 13, 2017
eph12:
You have introduced another thing into your arguments like you always do. Did they also have horrible miss yes or no? How does their solo goals change the fact that they also failed to score goals people were already celebrating for?
Eph, you've started defending Ukaku again >sad .... If he messes up again, you'll be no where to be found (like y'all did the last time) sad
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:41pm On Dec 13, 2017
elampiro:
If it were so common to make such mistahes, Vidic, Ferdinand, Terry, etc would have stamp opponents 100 times in their career. Or our previous strikers.

It was a bad clearance. He could have used his head by moving two steps forward while the ball was in flight. He could have used his stronger foot. Evra used one leg to clear throughout.
Another day that clearance would have been successful. Is this his first clearance? Has something like this happened before to him? Is it something he does regularly? What is it na?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:41pm On Dec 13, 2017
chic2pimp:
Nah Mano o mano, City's had a better team which was evident from both team's performance in the league and Europe.

Tbh I could also say Jose inherited deadwoods like Young,Shaw,Valencia etc. If United were to release any of those aforementioned players, the only teams that'll be fighting for their signatures would be newly promoted or relegation threatened ones.
Do you know the clubs who signed Joke Hart and Zabaleta? West Ham
Do you know who signed Clichy? Basaksehir Istanbul
Do you know the club who signed Nasri? Antalyspor
Do you know who signed Sagna? No forking one Football Club
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:43pm On Dec 13, 2017
GloryIsaac:
Eph, you've started defending Ukaku again >sad .... If he messes up again, you'll be no where to be found (like y'all did the last time) sad
I'm not defending Lukaku. When was this last time you are talking about?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:43pm On Dec 13, 2017
Oasis007:
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Off Football Matters!

Click "Share" when you see what I'm seeing!

Lol!
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:43pm On Dec 13, 2017
raumdeuter:
I dont need to quote you anywhere on Joe Cole, provide the stats that showed Joe Coles productivity under Mourinho and post Mourinho

That pales in comparison to what Deco did in Barcelona

Is this Pogbas best season ever? Are you sure I cant point to some seasons in Juve where he has done better
It doesn't need to be pogbas best season for you to confirm he is doing well. Currently he is the best player in the team, is that not flourishing?

Joe Coles best seasons were in 04/05 And 05/06 seasons when Jose was there, immediately Jose left Joe Coles career went downhill and he never recovered.

Decos best seasons were in 01/02 and 02/03 seasons statistically but his best performance came in 2004 when he and Derlie especially were umplayable. All those seasons jose was his manager, he did well at Barca but never replicated his Porto days form.
Sneidjer was another player that play his best game with Jose and till now many including me are still wondering why FIFA denied him balonn dor that year.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 8:44pm On Dec 13, 2017
Safe to say Miki is gone.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:44pm On Dec 13, 2017
eph12:
I'm not defending Lukaku. When was this last time you are talking about?
Before the City match cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:44pm On Dec 13, 2017
eph12:
You have introduced another thing into your arguments like you always do. Did they also have horrible miss yes or no? How does their solo goals change the fact that they also failed to score goals people were already celebrating for?
Give us an example where Shearer or Henry gave two Assists to opponents, missed a clear cut chance unmarked from 6 yards, and drove a counter to an opponent who wasn't even expecting to catch up.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 8:44pm On Dec 13, 2017
raumdeuter:
2012/13 Hazard had 37 goals + assists in all comps for Chelsea without Mourinho

Mourinho joined 2013/14 now show me Hazards stats under Mourinho and lets compare to whe 37 g+ a before Mourinho
2013/14 ,Hazard had 16 goals 7 assists.

From them till 2015/16, total goals + assists was 59 goals + assists.

Abi, make we remove the 1st season under JM?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:44pm On Dec 13, 2017
codedguy1:
Na until game start we go know whether na attacking lineup or not. it can be a defensive attacking lineup.
lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 8:45pm On Dec 13, 2017
elampiro:
If it were so common to make such mistahes, Vidic, Ferdinand, Terry, etc would have stamp opponents 100 times in their career. Or our previous strikers.

It was a bad clearance. He could have used his head by moving two steps forward while the ball was in flight. He could have used his stronger foot. Evra used one leg to clear throughout.
bros abeg leave dese men. 2 assists in a crucial match, are you a learner.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 8:45pm On Dec 13, 2017
eph12:
I'm not defending Lukaku. When was this last time you are talking about?
Baba elamps now turn amala too?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:46pm On Dec 13, 2017
Oasis007:
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:46pm On Dec 13, 2017
GloryIsaac:
Before the City match cheesy
I didn't disappear because of Lukaku. I wasn't online because I was very busy that day but I had no confidence in the team against City.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:47pm On Dec 13, 2017
eph12:
Another day that clearance would have been successful. Is this his first clearance? Has something like this happened before to him? Is it something he does regularly? What is it na?
You shoot into bodies instead of shooting into the sky, and hope it to be successful?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:49pm On Dec 13, 2017
Skimpledawg:
Hazard, when Mourinho got into his life during the 2nd spell in Chelsea was 37 goals 22 assists in all comps except Belgium, that is 59 goals + assists.

I stand to be corrected tho.

So, Egbon Dayo does this stats show JMs influence in Hazard's life? Hazard was definitely better and improved his stats when JM came into his life.

Are you convinced?

cc Capitalcee.
Don't mind him, the only EPL player of the season hazard won was achieved during Jose s tenure
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