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kimbraa, please define illiteracy.

Hmmm...I have been struggling with words to express how I feel about this but couldn't come up with anything that won't make me sound like a biatch. Illiterate and a masters holder...together... Hmmm.

Op biko what's your definition of illiterate sef? Someone who couldn't read or write or someone with very Lil education?

I know people who don't have any tertiary education certificates but are very sound o. Which are we talking about?

kimbraa:
None of my brothers would pick an illiterate for a wife. That's a known fact. Last time I checked, there are well groomed literates also.

You have avoided the question with a Laugh.. the key Word is ASSUMING.

crackhaus:
kimbraa, please define illiteracy.

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illiteracy
[ih-lit-er-uh-see]
noun, plural il·lit·er·a·cies for 3.
a lack of ability to read and write.
the state of being illiterate; lack of any or enough education.
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Definition of illiteracy (continued)
a mistake in writing or speaking, felt to be characteristic of an illiterate or semiliterate person:
a letter that was full of illiteracies.
Origin of illiteracy
First recorded in 1650–60; illiter(ate) + -acy

1660
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noun: semi-illiteracy
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Richy4:
You have avoided the question with a Laugh.. the key Word is ASSUMING.

Your question has been answered.

kimbraa:
Your question has been answered.

That's Ok... I can now see why some of us fail examination...Especially when asked a question that requires a Yes or No answers.....Have a good day Miss Kimbraa

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illiteracy
[ih-lit-er-uh-see]
noun, plural il·lit·er·a·cies for 3.
a lack of ability to read and write.
the state of being illiterate; lack of any or enough education.
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Definition of illiteracy (continued)
a mistake in writing or speaking, felt to be characteristic of an illiterate or semiliterate person:
a letter that was full of illiteracies.
Origin of illiteracy
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1660
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noun: semi-illiteracy
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My Lord in heaven, I just needed you to define it the way you understood it on a basic level cos you were throwing the word around a lot.

See, I've read a lot of your comments and you've got an unconventional way of thinking... rational and more embedded in realism, it's nice ..
On this topic though, while you are absolutely right about the social & educational divide between these two lovers...you failed to determine how this divide directly affects the longetivity of the marriage IF contracted.

If she can read & write which I have a feeling she can, then she's by no means an illiterate. What she lacks is sufficient education, but doesn't every human lack sufficient education if we are to look at it simplistically?

She's a hairdresser, that makes her vocationally educated in the art of hairdressing.
Can she communicate with her clients and calculate her bill? Well yeah, and that makes her literate.

The only issue here is 'perceived' CLASS, which you have explained in detail...and to be honest, this is the only reason his parents are really against the union, which they have every right to be (I agree with you 100% on this).

kimbraa:
No.
Actually, I've a family friend who happens to be a young widow, she works in shell and somehow got entangled to a married man she's currently dating. Her supposed boyfriend is married to an illiterate. Based on what I was told, the lady could barely read while the guy is educated and into sales of oil tools. When it comes to business, instead of discussing problems or prospects with his wife, he does with the shell lady he's dating 'cause she has ideas of his line of business and if he needs to make investments he does discuss his prospects with her, why? 'cause he has a wife that could contribute nothing to what he wants. Now, they have three kids together but her husband has never gone to a public function with her but he does with his widow girlfriend even to the point of lying to his wife that he was travelling out of the country with his kids but ended spending two weeks in the widows house with his kids who're grown and are aware that their father is dating the lady they're with. I'm not mistaken when I said the only thing crude women are good for is child bearing. Anyone who argues that is on his own.

The only reason the man was able to discuss anything with your said family friend is because she works in a place where he does business.
The said man might be married to a graduate in political science or accounting who won't have an idea about anything concerning his business.
Men can give whatever reason they want because they want to cheat. Even women with PhD still have randy husbands flaunting their mistresses about, so that's no excuse.
Some mistresses are foolish enough to believe the lies some men tell about their wives, but heck being educated doesn't remove foolishness from the brain.
Many formally uneducated men and women running successful businesses, while some of the educated ones are still roaming the streets with their education. Of what use is acquiring knowledge that's of no use to you or anyone?, knowledge that can't be applied?
Being illiterate doesn't make anyone crude, and being literate doesn't make anyone less crude.. its all about individual attitude
My female tailor in Nigeria, married to an educated civil servant has been able to sponsor all her children to the university. Her first son was also sponsored to the U.K. for his masters, with her hustling and her husband's retirement fund from the ministry (the man in question retired young around 50 years,) . She is definitely not crude, and when you see her you will surely address her with all respect. How they managed to build their house, sponsor their children to school was through her help and not from her husband's peanut pay as a civil servant.
She looked up to some of her customers for advice when her children were about entering uni, she moved around with reasonable people despite not going to a university, even her uneducated frienda were selected based on how reasonable they were.
Yet, some so called educated ones are slaying about waiting for who will remove them from poverty because they're educated.
Social class is very subjective, and because you're educated doesn't mean the Alakija family will accept you into their midst, your education means bullcrap to them.

kimbraa:
Nope, they don't need deliverance. They're right in every sense of it 'cause they're seeking for the best for their son and friend. Let's stop for once and reason without being sentimental. I wouldn't spend money on my son just to come back and pick a crude woman who'd add no values to his life beside child bearing for a wife.

I support you on this madam. Once again, I support you.

kimbraa:
Nope, they don't need deliverance. They're right in every sense of it 'cause they're seeking for the best for their son and friend. Let's stop for once and reason without being sentimental. I wouldn't spend money on my son just to come back and pick a crude woman who'd add no values to his life beside child bearing for a wife.

You are actually the one being sentimental in this case!

Look again, and you will see it.

Your point is why I will always insist that marriage is a scam! More like a business transaction. More like slavery.

I can't entangle myself with such a thing because the scam becomes plain to even the blind on a daily basis.

There's absolutely no benefit in marriage apart from the normal religious talks. It's built on selfishness in this generation.

[color=#770077][/color] xo because she didn't finish secondary now makes her an illiterate . What z d different between u both....SHE IS AN HAIR DRESSER.....really .

He should marry her and send her to school.. Case closed.

Newboss:
You are actually the one being sentimental in this case!

Look again, and you will see it.

Your point is why I will always insist that marriage is a scam! More like a business transaction. More like slavery.

I can't entangle myself with such a thing because the scam becomes plain to even the blind on a daily basis.

There's absolutely no benefit in marriage apart from the normal religious talks. It's built on selfishness in this generation.

No, Mr. I'm not the one. Going by the mentions I've had from those who're against my initial submission, I could categorically state that Chinua Achebe wasn't wrong when he said Nigerians are enshrined in mediocrity, and would rather choose mediocrity over meritocracy on the grounds of religious/tribal sentiment. I asked if any of you would marry an illiterate and no one has given a sincere answer but are rather pushing forward the conversation 'cause they think that every human is marriageable, that's wrong.

I talked of values and I wasn't in any way referring to moral values but what the lady has to offer in the marriage. They're worlds apar. Education shapes and refines people, and an educated lady has more to offer than an illiterate. If for nothing, for the sake of your kids 'cause education comes in handy in home making, and the kind of kids you intend raising. On what common grounds are they getting married? Are their cognitive/intellectual reasoning capacity on the same level?. You're to spend the rest of your life with someone, do so with whom every moment would count.

crackhaus:
My Lord in heaven, I just needed you to define it the way you understood it on a basic level cos you were throwing the word around a lot.

See, I've read a lot of your comments and you've got an unconventional way of thinking... rational and more embedded in realism, it's nice ..
On this topic though, while you are absolutely right about the social & educational divide between these two lovers...you failed to determine how this divide directly affects the longetivity of the marriage IF contracted.

If she can read & write which I have a feeling she can, then she's by no means an illiterate. What she lacks is sufficient education, but doesn't every human lack sufficient education if we are to look at it simplistically?

She's a hairdresser, that makes her vocationally educated in the art of hairdressing.
Can she communicate with her clients and calculate her bill? Well yeah, and that makes her literate.

The only issue here is 'perceived' CLASS, which you have explained in detail...and to be honest, this is the only reason his parents are really against the union, which they have every right to be (I agree with you 100% on this).

Sorry for the lengthy paste. well, since you agree with me to an extent then we don't have the push forward the conversation.

kimbraa:
No.
Actually, I've a family friend who happens to be a young widow, she works in shell and somehow got entangled to a married man she's currently dating. Her supposed boyfriend is married to an illiterate. Based on what I was told, the lady could barely read while the guy is educated and into sales of oil tools. When it comes to business, instead of discussing problems or prospects with his wife, he does with the shell lady he's dating 'cause she has ideas of his line of business and if he needs to make investments he does discuss his prospects with her, why? 'cause he has a wife that could contribute nothing to what he wants. Now, they have three kids together but her husband has never gone to a public function with her but he does with his widow girlfriend even to the point of lying to his wife that he was travelling out of the country with his kids but ended spending two weeks in the widows house with his kids who're grown and are aware that their father is dating the lady they're with. I'm not mistaken when I said the only thing crude women are good for is child bearing. Anyone who argues that is on his own.

Chisos!

Kimbraa,so you wrote this whole epistle in order to convince abi?

Oya, forward match and meet me in ze oza room let's settle this matter once and for all.

hatchy:
Chisos!

Kimbraa,so you wrote this whole epistle in order to convince abi?

Oya, forward match and meet me in ze oza room let's settle this matter once and for all.

It's not to convince you. I like your personal text and I'm stealing it. Good morning.

kimbraa:
I respect yours too, and I care less if the woman is well groomed but provided she's an illiterate? She's a No! No!! To me, and should look for love elsewhere. Probably, within her class.

your posts are usually somehow

cococandy:
your posts are usually somehow

How? That I find it absurd that an abroad trained masters degree holder to going for an illiterate for marriage?.

I can't just trust hairdressers as a wife material.

I don't care care what what and what even if she's a certified Rev'd Sister. I have seen enough from those peeps.

Now @op, I share the same opinion with you and the parent of your friend.

Those girls are public caffe.

kimbraa:
How? That I find it absurd that an abroad trained masters degree holder to going for an illiterate for marriage?.

I would expect more open mindedness

1) Abroad trained educated doesn’t mean better educated.
2) Not having a degree doesn’t make one illiterate.
3) love can move mountains

Hmmmmmm..........

With my little experience, UK bagged masters + hair dressers (except you are talking hair stylist aka bobby's signature's type) are universes apart and should stay apart except in exceptional cases like a very broad minded deep thinking hair dresser who is willing to further her education and grow to bobby's standard.

cococandy:
I would expect more open mindedness

1) Abroad trained educated doesn’t mean better educated.
2) Not having a degree doesn’t make one illiterate.
3) love can move mountains

Does that also mean sane people should start picking lunatics as spouses?. I guess that's the basis on which most people on here are for the relationship.

I strongly hold this view that so long as any human could read and write, they are literate.

If the said lady ticks the right boxes of your friend, he should proceed. he should know that only him and not his parents would live out the rest of his existence with the lady.

Richy4:
If you don't mind, can you be a little bit specific about how you want her to be improved

Going to school now... Get a Waec certificate and a uni education!!

Love doesn't last forever oo, After some time, all those "it's only us that matter in our marriage" will fade off their eyes. Imagine a social function of the groom with friends and the lady can't respond when someone tells her thank you, can't communicate well in English, doesn't know anything about politics, news, geography, technology, and other things people discuss in such functions. I'm telling you, the love will start dying from there.

The lady sef get taste sha. A whole Master's degree holder!!

blessedvisky:
Going to school now... Get a Waec certificate and a uni education!!

Love doesn't last forever oo, After some time, all those "it's only us that matter in our marriage" will fade off their eyes. Imagine a social function of the groom with friends and the lady can't respond when someone tells her thank you, can't communicate well in English, doesn't know anything about politics, news, geography, technology, and other things people discuss in such functions. I'm telling you, the love will start dying from there.

The lady sef get taste sha. A whole Master's degree holder!!

Don't judge me man but that's one thing I like mostly about white people... Majority of them are not into all these social status and class.. They feel that love is a universal language that knew no class and status and sometimes race..

If someone that learned trade (hair dresser ) is not good enough for some people.. because she can't talk about politics, technology etc.. What about those things that she can talk about?..

there's a Nigerian lady on front page on Nairaland today .. who got no formal education.. but she is lecturing at Harvard University.. teaching people her skills and knowledge..

Is she not making her man and others around her proud,.. every thing must not be degree man..

Richy4:
Don't judge me man but that's one thing I like mostly about white people... Majority of them are not into all these social status and class.. They feel that love is a universal language that knew no class and status and sometimes race..

If someone that learned trade (hair dresser ) is not good enough for some people.. because she can't talk about politics, technology etc.. What about those things that she can talk about?..

there's a Nigerian lady on front page on Nairaland today .. who got no formal education.. but she is lecturing at Harvard University.. teaching people her skills and knowledge..

Is she not making her man and others around her proud,.. every thing must not be degree man..

I hope you know that most whites (Americans and Europeans) are Usually educated up to high school level , habe easy access to tech, news is read in their own language etc... You know we are not whites. Our societies are different. Plus, there is a sense of equality in white marriage being that both partners are usually middle class and above most times. That's not the case with these two.

Kindly tell me the things an hairdresser is able to talk about apart from things related to her business and maybe gossip.

Degree is definitely not everything surely, but going to school definitely confers status and exposure on you apart from just knowledge and certificate

hatchy:
Did you sit down,typed this comment and posted here?

Just asking because i can't believe what you posted here sha!

just ask her what value is she adding to her Husband/Boyfriend aside sex and child bearing.

enabledgoddess:
we know that the fact that one went to school does not necessarily makes one wise, intelligent and contributive. so many women whether educated or not can only contribute their womb in a marriage. we also know that there some women who although not educated,have helped build their husband's lives. there isn't one side to the coin. education is beyond four walls of the classroom.

she too can only contribute her womb only.

kimbraa:
No.
Actually, I've a family friend who happens to be a young widow, she works in shell and somehow got entangled to a married man she's currently dating. Her supposed boyfriend is married to an illiterate. Based on what I was told, the lady could barely read while the guy is educated and into sales of oil tools. When it comes to business, instead of discussing problems or prospects with his wife, he does with the shell lady he's dating 'cause she has ideas of his line of business and if he needs to make investments he does discuss his prospects with her, why? 'cause he has a wife that could contribute nothing to what he wants. Now, they have three kids together but her husband has never gone to a public function with her but he does with his widow girlfriend even to the point of lying to his wife that he was travelling out of the country with his kids but ended spending two weeks in the widows house with his kids who're grown and are aware that their father is dating the lady they're with. I'm not mistaken when I said the only thing crude women are good for is child bearing. Anyone who argues that is on his own.

sorry dear you are mistaking. You would have known that the reason why the said man discuses everything with the widowed girl friend is because they are in the same line of business. And probarbly, the said widow links him to business connections since she is working with shell. More so, this man in question may be lying to this widow just to always have free access to her kpekus. As of not going out with her publicly, that one is a white lie. There are events he goes with his girlfriend and there is one he goes with the wife. I just hope you understand and dont pick offence.

kimbraa:
No.
Actually, I've a family friend who happens to be a young widow, she works in shell and somehow got entangled to a married man she's currently dating. Her supposed boyfriend is married to an illiterate. Based on what I was told, the lady could barely read while the guy is educated and into sales of oil tools. When it comes to business, instead of discussing problems or prospects with his wife, he does with the shell lady he's dating 'cause she has ideas of his line of business and if he needs to make investments he does discuss his prospects with her, why? 'cause he has a wife that could contribute nothing to what he wants. Now, they have three kids together but her husband has never gone to a public function with her but he does with his widow girlfriend even to the point of lying to his wife that he was travelling out of the country with his kids but ended spending two weeks in the widows house with his kids who're grown and are aware that their father is dating the lady they're with. I'm not mistaken when I said the only thing crude women are good for is child bearing. Anyone who argues that is on his own.

What a story. Your family friend is a terrible person.

Funnyguy83:
sorry dear you are mistaking. You would have known that the reason why the said man discuses everything with the widowed girl friend is because they are in the same line of business. And probarbly, the said widow links him to business connections since she is working with shell. More so, this man in question may be lying to this widow just to always have free access to her kpekus. As of not going out with her publicly, that one is a white lie. There are events he goes with his girlfriend and there is one he goes with the wife. I just hope you understand and dont picking offence.

Don’t mind her. The guy is using the shell woman. But some women love to be told that they are better than other women. Especially the woman in the house. So they develop liver and start disgracing themselves outside with a man that is making a fool of them. She should ask her family friend if she has ever been to family functions with the man. Lol. When the boyfriend finds a higher up woman in an oil company, he will dump the girlfriend and move on. I won’t be surprised if his wife knows about his scam. The guy is a gigolo and a user. But the desperate widow cannot see all his scam.

Illity no get toto?
Sweeter than educated wan kpa kpa.
Just like an illity BLOKOS ke.

BLOKOS from Harvard and BLOKOS from UPPER OR LOWER IWEKA ROAD, IDUMOTA OR POUND ROAD na the same?

Abi you wan compare AJEGUNLE to BANANA ISLAND toto? Habaaaaaa!!!!

Abeg joke na joke o.
DUMEBI the DIRTY GIRL SYNDROME.

Why lie to the ILLITY wife na? He should be brave and tell her what he is up to ke. He will find out that illiteracy has borders and limits combined.

Shiooooor!!!!