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joshnes:
AND HERE I WAS THINKING THIS THREAD WAS ON ANGELS

yes it is but discussions can deviate a bit

dalaman:
So Yahweh that later evolve to Jesus based on stories written by ancient men whom you believe to be God is the reason why anything exist abi? Well done.

hahaha

butterflyl1on:
Kingebukasblog come and see o.

He says they have evidence

He says they have logic

He says they have critical reasoning

Saying they have critical reasoning of spiritual things is like saying a tailor has the critical reasoning of quantum mechanics

Saying they have evidence is like having air in your lungs yet trying to breath the air out into your palm and hold it there

Saying they have logic is like taking a one size fits all garment and claiming it belongs to you alone. So much delusion in your comment it makes my eyes tear up and then makes the tears from my eyes also tear up.

Never ever ever use square pegs to define round or hexagonal holes

Did I say they have evidence for spiritual things? All I said was that they have evidences. Evidences that point to the fact that the bible is bunk.

hopefulLandlord:
yes it is but discussions can deviate a bit

He simply had no answer that's why he abandoned the deviation he helped create to go back to the topic.

Martinez19:
He is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient but he has angels. How does this add up?
He is everywhere isn't he? So sending an angel to deliver a message is like sending someone to deliver a message from where you are to where you are
I had angels minister to God. Wtf? An all knowing God?

dear sir, please know that u are never getting an answer to this question.

urahara:
dear sir, please know that u are never getting an answer to this question.

Yes sir

urahara:
dear sir, please know that u are never getting an answer to this question.

Yes sir this your answer dey sharp and straightforward.

Martinez19:
Did I say they have evidence for spiritual things? All I said was that they have evidences. Evidences that point to the fact that the bible is bunk.

Do you see why you are deluded?

The Bible is a book which contains accounts of both physical and spiritual occurrences. If you have Physical evidence why would you not also have spiritual evidence?

Your sources are bunk and not the Bible. When next you speak of evidence, make sure you have the complete package or consider yourself a móron.

The Christians on this section are very stüpid and retãrded. NONE of them has been able to give any meaningful answer to the OP. Bunch of confused cretins.

butterflyl1on:
Do you see why you are deluded?

The Bible is a book which contains accounts of both physical and spiritual occurrences. If you have Physical evidence why would you not also have spiritual evidence?

Your sources are bunk and not the Bible. When next you speak of evidence, make sure you have the complete package or consider yourself a móron.

Spiritual abi? When you guys lose out and have nothing reasonable to say you go down the spiritual route so that you can keep your delusions alive.

Is it not the same spiritual brouhaha that is responsible for the over 30 thousand sects in Christianity today with different doctrines, opinions and interpretation of the bible?

Ok pls use your spiritual knowledge and tell your christians the true position of tithing according to the bible , only then will we know that you have an idea of what you are saying and your spiritual talk isn't nonsense talk. Go ahead explain and convince your christians about the true position of the bible and what your Gof wants when it comes to tithes let's see if your spiritual talk isn't mumbo jumbo and nonsense. Go ahead .

Maezara:
Lol. See this fool. You are a very senseless bastard.

When you want to cross the road, do you cross by faith or by sight?

Help me ask him o.

Maezara:
Lol. See this fool. You are a very senseless bastard.

When you want to cross the road, do you cross by faith or by sight?

He is deluded. Faith is nothing but holding a belief that is not supported by empirical evidence, it is a belief held on the basis of desire and psychological need rather than reality. Faith is leap that goes beyond what is justified. If there was proof, verifiable evidence, to support the biblical version of events, tgey won't need faith. Faith is just their excuse to keep their delusions alive.

Maezara:
Lol. See this fool. You are a very senseless bastard.

When you want to cross the road, do you cross by faith or by sight?

By their word you shall know them.

Thanks for identifying with the SWINES


pain am gaaaaan!


You see, smiley can't stop laughing at you

Martinez19:
Help me ask him o.

Imagine the foolishness.

dalaman:
He is deluded. Faith is nothing but holding a belief that is not supported by empirical evidence, it is a belief held on the basis of desire and psychological need rather than reality. Faith is leap that goes beyond what is justified. If there was proof, verifiable evidence, to support the biblical version of events, tgey won't need faith. Faith is just their excuse to keep their delusions alive.

Some niggas be living their everyday life, "LOOKING BEFORE THEY LEAP", and the same idiots will come to nairaland to talk absolute nonsense.

Until they take their nonsense about faith to its LOGICAL CONCLUSION and do not 'live by it' only when it's CONVENIENT (rational cripples need emotional masturbation to a phanthom daddy), they'll forever remain clowns and idiots.

Zenithpeak:
By their word you shall know them.

Thanks for identifying with the SWINES


pain am gaaaaan!


You see, smiley can't stop laughing at you

Mumu. You better come out of your web of delusion and retardation before the bacteria of stupid faith infects you with life-long meningitis. You'll never recover.

dalaman:
Spiritual abi? When you guys lose out and have nothing reasonable to say you go down the spiritual route so that you can keep your delusions alive.

Is it not the same spiritual brouhaha that is responsible for the over 30 thousand sects in Christianity today with different doctrines, opinions and interpretation of the bible?

Ok pls use your spiritual knowledge and tell your christians the true position of tithing according to the bible , only then will we know that you have an idea of what you are saying and your spiritual talk isn't nonsense talk. Go ahead explain and convince your christians about the true position of the bible and what your Gof wants when it comes to tithes let's see if your spiritual talk isn't mumbo jumbo and nonsense. Go ahead .

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 and every type of evil to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the truth that would save them. For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. Then all who have not believed the truth but have taken pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned

Trying to break down tithing to you would be like trying to explain why the sun shines so brightly to a baby yet in the womb who has no idea about the existence of the sun to even start with.

The long and short of our lives when it comes to tithing or giving is found in 2nd Corinthians 9: 4-10

4 For if any Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we—not to say anything about you—would be ashamed of having been so confident. 5 So I thought it necessary to urge the brothers to visit you in advance and finish the arrangements for the generous gift you had promised. Then it will be ready as a generous gift, not as one grudgingly given.

6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 9 As it is written:

“They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor;
their righteousness endures forever.”[a]
10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness

Feel free to analyse that scripture from every angle be it for or against and let me know what you arrive at.

Maezara:
Mumu. You better come out of your web of delusion and retardation before the bacteria of stupid faith infects you with life-long meningitis[b]. You'll never recover[/b].

I'm out of delusion that is why I can say it bodly I HAVE YAHWEH AS MY GOD.


I am irrevocably convinced of my faith and suffering from chronic faith based delusion of grandeur. So, don't think you've said anything reasonable up there.

My faith is working for me.

Tell me what works for you.......


Big fire fall on you

Zenithpeak:
[s]I'm out of delusion that is why I can say it bodly I HAVE YAHWEH AS MY GOD.


I am irrevocably convinced of my faith and suffering from chronic faith based delusion of grandeur. So, don't think you've said anything reasonable up there.

My faith is working for me.

Tell me what works for you.......


Big fire fall on you[/s]

Dumb.

butterflyl1on:
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 and every type of evil to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the truth that would save them. For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. Then all who have not believed the truth but have taken pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned

Trying to break down tithing to you would be like trying to explain why the sun shines so brightly to a baby yet in the womb who has no idea about the existence of the sun to even start with.

The long and short of our lives when it comes to tithing or giving is found in 2nd Corinthians 9: 4-10

4 For if any Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we—not to say anything about you—would be ashamed of having been so confident. 5 So I thought it necessary to urge the brothers to visit you in advance and finish the arrangements for the generous gift you had promised. Then it will be ready as a generous gift, not as one grudgingly given.

6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 9 As it is written:

“They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor;
their righteousness endures forever.”[a]
10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness

Feel free to analyse that scripture from every angle be it for or against and let me know what you arrive at.

You are empty as usual. I don't believe in the bible. You are to use the spritual knowledge and tell your fellow christians the true position of tithing according to the bible. Why are you addressing me?

Is the verse above the true position of tithing according to the bible ? How many christains that are lost in the tithe wars will read it and form a position one way or the other?

dalaman:
You are empty as usual. I don't believe in the bible. You are to use the spritual knowledge and tell your fellow christians the true position of tithing according to the bible. Why are you addressing me?

Is the verse above the true position of tithing according to the bible ? How many christains that are lost in the tithe wars will read it and form a position one way or the other?

LMAO you do not believe in the "bible" yet you have spent 8 years of your life on nairaland arguing what you do not believe even when nobody directed such scriptures at you or your name was not mentioned in it. But for some reason any time scripture is mentioned to buttress an OP you appear and pounce on it.

Your life must be riddled with misery if this is all you are about.

I cannot even begin to imagine the amount of time you have wasted outside nairaland still on the same moronic mission.

By the way, NOBODY BELIEVES IN THE BIBLE. PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THE WORDS OF GOD CONTAINED IN THE BIBLE. you would do well to note the difference because many satanic beings such as you have tried bringing out their own versions of the Bible and adulterating it by so doing so God foreknowing this, said in 2nd Corinthians 3:6

He hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

The letter is the book but the spirit is the life in the words found in the book.

True Christians take the life the words provide and hold them high. Something you would never know about.

I knew you would be extremely ignorant of the scripture I gave in my last comment and that shows that indeed the natural minded man such as you can NEVER understand the things of the spirit so why ask for an explanation for something you have no idea about and yet you claim the explanation is not for you but for other Christians yet you ended it by saying "let's see if your spiritual talk isn't mumbo jumbo and nonsense."

So who is the LET US IN your comment if you are not among those to analyse it.

Your mumu is on fleek.

butterflyl1on:
LMAO you do not believe in the "bible" yet you have spent 8 years of your life on nairaland arguing what you do not believe even when nobody directed such scriptures at you or your name was not mentioned in it. But for some reason any time scripture is mentioned to buttress an OP you appear and pounce on it.

Your life must be riddled with misery if this is all you are about.

I cannot even begin to imagine the amount of time you have wasted outside nairaland still on the same moronic mission.

By the way, NOBODY BELIEVES IN THE BIBLE. PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THE WORDS OF GOD CONTAINED IN THE BIBLE. you would do well to note the difference because many satanic beings such as you have tried bringing out their own versions of the Bible and adulterating it by so doing so God foreknowing this, said in 2nd Corinthians 3:6

He hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

The letter is the book but the spirit is the life in the words found in the book.

True Christians take the life the words provide and hold them high. Something you would never know about.

I knew you would be extremely ignorant of the scripture I gave in my last comment and that shows that indeed the natural minded man such as you can NEVER understand the things of the spirit so why ask for an explanation for something you have no idea about and yet you claim the explanation is not for you but for other Christians yet you ended it by saying "let's see if your spiritual talk isn't mumbo jumbo and nonsense."

So who is the LET US IN your comment if you are not among those to analyse it.

Your mumu is on fleek.

The bible remains the creation and works of men. That is the reality and fact of the matter. All this puerile rants of yours will not change that fact.

A simple question was asked and instead of demonstrating what you claim you went off blowing empty air.

You are to provide the biblical position on tithing so that any christian that is confused and reads it will ne convinced. You've failed to do that b cause you know you can't but chose to go about ranting about something that is off point.

dalaman:
The bible remains the creation and works of men. That is the reality and fact of the matter. All this puerile rants of yours will not change that fact.

A simple question was asked and instead of demonstrating what you claim you went off blowing empty air.

You are to provide the biblical position on tithing so that any christian that is confused and reads it will ne convinced. You've failed to do that b cause you know you can't but chose to go about ranting about something that is off point.

Eeyah. The puerile minded and puerile mouthed and puerile fingered person is you of course

How is it that you fail to understand the simple scripture I posted earlier which CLEARLY addresses your questions. Let me post it again. Maybe due to the devolution of your mental strength as an atheist you could not understand it at first read so maybe if you read it 10 more times some sense may fall on you.

2nd Corinthians 9: 4-10

4 For if any Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we—not to say anything about you—would be ashamed of having been so confident. 5 So I thought it necessary to urge the brothers to visit you in advance and finish the arrangements for the generous gift you had promised. Then it will be ready as a generous gift, not as one grudgingly given.

6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 9 As it is written:

“They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor;
their righteousness endures forever.”[a]
10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness

butterflyl1on:
Eeyah. The puerile minded and puerile mouthed and puerile fingered person is you of course

How is it that you fail to understand the simple scripture I posted earlier which CLEARLY addresses your questions. Let me post it again. Maybe due to the devolution of your mental strength as an atheist you could not understand it at first read so maybe if you read it 10 more times some sense may fall on you.

2nd Corinthians 9: 4-10

4 For if any Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we—not to say anything about you—would be ashamed of having been so confident. 5 So I thought it necessary to urge the brothers to visit you in advance and finish the arrangements for the generous gift you had promised. Then it will be ready as a generous gift, not as one grudgingly given.

6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 9 As it is written:

“They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor;
their righteousness endures forever.”[a]
10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness

Tithing isn't mentioned anywhere in the verse. The verse talks about giving cheerfully that is different from tithing. You are to go to any of the tithing threads and give the biblical position on tithing and end the endless back and forth between christians that are confused and constantly calling each other names because of tithing. Your man Felixmoron has been called all sorts of names (he too has called christians names ) because of tithing. Go and tell them the biblical position and end the dispute let's see. Stop throwing meaningless bible verses at me.

dalaman:
Tithing isn't mentioned anywhere in the verse. The verse talks about giving cheerfully that is different from tithing. You are to go to any of the tithing threads and give the biblical position on tithing and end the endless back and forth between christians that are confused and constantly calling each other names because of tithing. Your man Felixmoron has been called all sorts of names (he too has called christians names ) because of tithing. Go and tell them the biblical position and end the dispute let's see. Stop throwing meaningless bible verses at me.

Hahahahahaha the guy is looking for the literal word TITHING in that scripture

Do you see why I said your mumu is on fleek?

Offering = giving
Tithing= giving

If you sow sparingly you shall reap sparingly but if you sow bountifully you shall reap bountifully.

Tithe is sowing, offering is sowing. A seed must get a harvest.

The giver of the seed is God.
The giver of the harvest is God

So God who gives you the very seed does not need your seed but his creation do and Jesus said in Mathew 25:40

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me

Same scriptures declared in 1st John 4:20

Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen

We are God's TEST of love. Tithing or offering is the tool for this test while we are the recipient. If we can prove our GENUINE UNADULTERATED love for one another then we have God's approval and this was why Jesus gave the golden rule in Luke 10:27

Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.

So in other words Love your neighbour same way you claim you love God.

I am sure I have further confused your carnal mind

However this is elementary for any new born again believer.

Nobody literarily gives tithe to God but we give it to one another as proof of love for one another especially those who need it and this includes PASTORS, PREACHERS OF THE GOSPEL, THE POOR, THE WIDOWS, etc.

When we do this in obedience then as Jesus said, we are doing it unto him.

and once again this thread turned petty.
can't sane arguments exist without insults.?

butterflyl1on:
Kingebukasblog come and see o.

He says they have evidence

He says they have logic

He says they have critical reasoning

Saying they have critical reasoning of spiritual things is like saying a tailor has the critical reasoning of quantum mechanics

Saying they have evidence is like having air in your lungs yet trying to breath the air out into your palm and hold it there

Saying they have logic is like taking a one size fits all garment and claiming it belongs to you alone. So much delusion in your comment it makes my eyes tear up and then makes the tears from my eyes also tear up.

Never ever ever use square pegs to define round or hexagonal holes

This is why I refrained from responding to the question when the nigga be spewing atrocious nonsense like that

Maezara:
Dumb.

What makes his comment dumb ?

felixomor:
Saavy

butterflyl1on:
LMAO you do not believe in the "bible" yet you have spent 8 years of your life on nairaland arguing what you do not believe even when nobody directed such scriptures at you or your name was not mentioned in it. But for some reason any time scripture is mentioned to buttress an OP you appear and pounce on it.

Your life must be riddled with misery if this is all you are about.

I cannot even begin to imagine the amount of time you have wasted outside nairaland still on the same moronic mission.

By the way, NOBODY BELIEVES IN THE BIBLE. PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THE WORDS OF GOD CONTAINED IN THE BIBLE. you would do well to note the difference because many satanic beings such as you have tried bringing out their own versions of the Bible and adulterating it by so doing so God foreknowing this, said in 2nd Corinthians 3:6

He hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

The letter is the book but the spirit is the life in the words found in the book.

True Christians take the life the words provide and hold them high. Something you would never know about.

I knew you would be extremely ignorant of the scripture I gave in my last comment and that shows that indeed the natural minded man such as you can NEVER understand the things of the spirit so why ask for an explanation for something you have no idea about and yet you claim the explanation is not for you but for other Christians yet you ended it by saying "let's see if your spiritual talk isn't mumbo jumbo and nonsense."

So who is the LET US IN your comment if you are not among those to analyse it.

Your mumu is on fleek.

Lol @ fleek

butterflyl1on:
Hahahahahaha the guy is looking for the literal word TITHING in that scripture

Do you see why I said your mumu is on fleek?

Offering = giving
Tithing= giving

If you sow sparingly you shall reap sparingly but if you sow bountifully you shall reap bountifully.

Tithe is sowing, offering is sowing. A seed must get a harvest.

The giver of the seed is God.
The giver of the harvest is God

So God who gives you the very seed does not need your seed but his creation do and Jesus said in Mathew 25:40

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me

Same scriptures declared in 1st John 4:20

Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen

We are God's TEST of love. Tithing or offering is the tool for this test while we are the recipient. If we can prove our GENUINE UNADULTERATED love for one another then we have God's approval and this was why Jesus gave the golden rule in Luke 10:27

Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.

So in other words Love your neighbour same way you claim you love God.

I am sure I have further confused your carnal mind

However this is elementary for any new born again believer.

Nobody literarily gives tithe to God but we give it to one another as proof of love for one another especially those who need it and this includes PASTORS, PREACHERS OF THE GOSPEL, THE POOR, THE WIDOWS, etc.

When we do this in obedience then as Jesus said, we are doing it unto him.

Go to the tithe threads that abound here on the religious section and state the bible position, you'll put an end to the endless bickering and confusion among the christians there instead of throwing nonsense at me.